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KDE 3.5 Beta 1 Announced

christchurch writes "The KDE Project has announced the immediate availability of KDE 3.5 Beta 1, dubbed "Kanzler". This will be the last major release in the KDE 3 series. Qt 3.3.5 was released too late to adapt to it and it shows some fundamental compilation problems. We had a preview of KDE 3.5 two months ago."

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  1. Already running it! by Mishura · · Score: 4, Informative

    Its pretty cool. Hasn't crashed yet. If you are running Kubuntu, you can go to this site: http://kubuntu.org/kde-35beta1.php and get the hookup.

  2. Old news again! by BestNicksRTaken · · Score: 4, Funny

    Can whoever it is that reads osnews.com stop posting copies to Slashdot 4 days later?

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    1. Re:Old news again! by m50d · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's not OSNews, it's KDE Dot, the summary is identical. This happened with the Qt 4 release too, even though I'd submitted a better version. I think the way to get stories approved is to bribe the /. editors.

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  3. But... by PowerPunk · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...is it Merkel or Schröder?

  4. Re:3.6? by CDMA_Demo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Does anyone think we can port KDE to Windows? It will be really cool if instead of explorer we boot up into KDE. Just an interesting possibility. I know something like this has been done before but its not as good as having complete KDE or Gnome!

  5. Re:KDE NEEDS WYSIWYG PRINTING by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    it was one of the Google Summer of Code projects
    http://developer.kde.org/summerofcode/pagedmedia.h tml

    it is in trunk, will be in 4.0

  6. Konqueror succeeds at ACID2 and gets Adblock! by Einherjer · · Score: 5, Informative

    Konqueror (I suppose with the Apple patches in, thanks guys) now succeeds at rendering the ACID2 Webstandard-Tests (yes, we know that it's not an official standard. Firefox still can't do this.

    And best of all, its got AdBlock-like functionality integrated, that works like a charm. Even with the Filter G Set for Mozilla Adblock.

    That's one less user for Firefox, I'm sticking to Konqueror now as it is faster and not as memory-greedy.

    Check it out!

    1. Re:Konqueror succeeds at ACID2 and gets Adblock! by Einherjer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm not sure I understand your point here.

      Are you an Apple developer so you know that they are "newbie developers" ? Do you know that they littered their source? Have you even looked at WebCore?
      I did, and it is one of the tightest integration of an HTML engine I've ever seen.
      I presume you miss the goal of what was to accomplish:

      1. the KHTML want to make a full-fledged HTML engine
      2. the Apple guys want to make an Apple Webbrowser(!)

      there are fundamentally different concepts of the two being compatible in the process of engineering. that the KHTML guys wanted to know what they did is understandable, as per required by the license, but, once more, the Apple guys were never obliged to make the
      source "generic" as the KHTML engine would need it (one could wish).
      it was only after this reputation clash, that they opened up all of their WebCore to show their good will.

      so no bad rep. to apple for this. also no bad rep. to khtml for this. why?
      because in the end, what matters is, that both of the projects improved.

  7. Re:3.6? by Psiren · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Does anyone think we can port KDE to Windows?

    I seem to remember reading somewhere that Qt4 would make this a distinct possibility, or at least make it easier to contemplate doing it. I don't know if there would be any interest in doing such a thing, but time will tell.

  8. Re:KDE NEEDS WYSIWYG PRINTING by chill · · Score: 3, Informative

    I have not had a problem with printing from KWord using CUPS as the printing service and the standard KDE interface to it. The print preview looks just like the output, as does what is on the screen in KWord.

    I haven't tried it in Konqueror or KMail, but if you're having a problem it is probably something to do with KHTML's interpretation. That is a known issue and being actively worked on. It was part of Google's "Summer of Code".

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  9. Doh! by uberjoe · · Score: 4, Funny
    Qt 3.3.5 was released too late to adapt to it and it shows some fundamental compilation problems

    Oh Krap!

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  10. Website information by Shotgun · · Score: 5, Informative

    Why should I care?

    Really, in the best writing classes that I've ever taken, the instructed always made the point that a writer should always be first concerned with why would the reader care about the subject matter.

    I looked all over KDE's website. About all I could find was "Here's a new beta. Try it and tell us what you think." But, nowhere did it give me any reason to want to try it. I use KDE on a production basis, but there's no reason for me to go poking around and messing with stuff that ain't broken unless there is some benefit to realize.

    Hey, guys and gals. I know ya'll've been working on something. What have you fixed/upgraded/added?

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    1. Re:Website information by mkro · · Score: 5, Informative

      KDE 3.5 feature plan. Green is finished, yellow is in progress, red not started.
      Anyone tried the MSN and Yahoo webcam support in Kopete yet?

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  11. Alternative native Window Mangers for Windows by jd · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Why not? Someone ported Afterstep to Windows. It was a native port, too, not using Cygwin. It should be possible for someone to examine how the replacement of the Windows GUI was achieved, and the X calls shouldn't pose a problem as KDE uses Qt, and Qt will run under Windows. Anything KDE doesn't do through Qt should be solvable by looking to see how the Afterstep port solved the problem.


    What I'd LOVE to see is someone porting the full KDE system to run natively on Windows, then write a layer that'll handle Windows GUI calls and DirectX through KDE. A screenshot of that would freak out so many people...

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  12. Re:3.6? by m50d · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's a target for 4.0, since Qt wasn't free on windows before V4. However, there's already a working cygwin version and partial pure native port at http://kde-cygwin.sf.net/

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  13. Re:3.6? by Rich · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Yes, since the release of Qt 4, Qt has been GPL on win32 as well as unix and Mac. Plans to change the way KDE is split up were discussed at akademy that should make a win32 version easier, as will the move away from autoconf/automake to a new build system. Some parts of KDE such as kjs can already be built on win32, but there are many other parts that would need quite substantial work to port. That said, there is already a cygwin port of KDE that can be used right now.

  14. Re:kiolucene vs beagle by Knome_fan · · Score: 3, Informative

    kiolucene doesn't search the content of files, so comparing it to beagle is a very stupid attempt a trolling at best.

    However, there also is kio_beagle, wich let's you use beagle from within konqueror.
    http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=2 8437

    And while we are at it, there is of course kat, which is roughly the kde equivalent to beagle right now. Kat will see a major redisign in the next version according to the developers and will work together with kiolucene.

  15. Re:Better yet... by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 3, Informative
    Snapshots exist for Qt 4, so why not do a port for that?

    Erm, that's what KDE 4 is.

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  16. Re:Wha? by Nasarius · · Score: 4, Informative
    Kanzler? I thought Microsoft's beta naming conventions were goofy, but after Mandriva and now Kanzler, I think a torch has been passed.

    Like many of their other release names, it's German. And probably a reference to the current election mess in Germany (Kanzler = chancellor).

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  17. Re:Two Words by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 5, Funny
    But KDE is low on the WAF. (Wife Acceptance Factor)

    KDE's WAF an KidAF scores are pretty high in my household. Maybe you need to upgrade your W?

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