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Microsoft And JBoss Collaborate On Server Software

wellington map wrote to mention a C|Net article discussing a collaboration between Microsoft and JBoss, intended to ensure their server software is more interoperable. From the article: "Microsoft has struggled to deal with the arrival of open-source software, which is collaboratively developed with a code-sharing process that stands in stark contrast to the secrecy that shrouds most of the products from Microsoft and other proprietary software makers. After several attacks on the intellectual-property foundations and the methods, quality and cost of open-source software, Redmond, Wash.-based Microsoft has begun a more cooperative phase."

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  1. Response by gleather · · Score: 5, Funny

    What is the appropriate response when you are offered a hand that started out with a knife in it?

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    1. Re:Response by greythax · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The appropriate response is to look for the knife in the other hand.

    2. Re:Response by Cally · · Score: 4, Funny

      Surely the appropriate response is to start checking your back for any unexpected protrusions.

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    3. Re:Response by killjoe · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I am trying hard to think of a company MS partnered with but didn't stab in the back. I can't think of one.

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  2. Proprietary by mysqlrocks · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm sure Microsoft has some plan for assimilation (this is not meant to be a troll or a flame). Hopefully this doesn't turn out like J# where Microsoft put in their own proprietary libraries that developers built on thinking they were building Java applications that could run on any JVM.

    1. Re:Proprietary by rewt66 · · Score: 4, Informative

      What's wrong with adding proprietary stuff? Nothing.

      What's wrong with adding proprietary stuff in violation of the requirements for using the name "Java", and yet still calling it "Java"? Plenty.

      That's why Microsoft lost the lawsuit. They aren't quite the innocent victims of lawsuit-happy Sun that you are making them out to be.

  3. The Popular Front of Judea by Cally · · Score: 4, Funny
    I was just watching this, and it seems strangely relevant in some way I can't quite put my finger on...

    Listen. The only people we hate more than the Romans are the fucking Judean People's Front.
    P.F.J.: Yeah...
    JUDITH: Splitters.
    P.F.J.: Splitters...
    FRANCIS: And the Judean Popular People's Front.
    P.F.J.: Yeah. Oh, yeah. Splitters. Splitters...
    LORETTA: And the People's Front of Judea.
    P.F.J.: Yeah. Splitters. Splitters...
    REG: What?
    LORETTA: The People's Front of Judea. Splitters.
    REG: We're the People's Front of Judea!
    LORETTA: Oh. I thought we were the Popular Front.
    REG: People's Front! C-huh.
    FRANCIS: Whatever happened to the Popular Front, Reg?
    REG: He's over there.
    P.F.J.: Splitter!

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  4. How Different? by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Products from the two companies are similar in purpose, but very different in design. The JBoss application server, based on Java, runs on Windows, Linux and Unix systems. Microsoft's Windows-based application server tools, based on the company's .Net programming model, are part of its Windows Server operating system.

    Oh, well that explains everything. One product runs everywhere, the other runs only on Windows. See? They're different!

    Don't worry, though. Microsoft is working hard to correct the problem. Once they "make sure that JBoss runs well on Windows", both products will be very similar. After all, who needs Linux and Unix support?

  5. IBM by CSHARP123 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I think this has got nothing to do with FOSS but everything to do with IBM. Hitting on Websphere will be hitting on IBM's one of the server product. If you look at Microsoft website, it always compares .Net with Websphere. By collaborating with open source product MS will kill two birds in one stone. MS open source supporter and other kill websphere as much as possible by promoting an open source product.

  6. Working the 5 steps of denial? by jrcamp · · Score: 5, Funny

    1) Denial
    2) Anger
    3) Bargaining — Microsoft, you are HERE.
    4) Depression
    5) Acceptance

    Hey, at least they're working the program. Who would have imagined 2 years ago that they would even acknowledge open source, let alone cooperate. The next 2 steps will be rough for them.

  7. They want JBoss to run well on windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That is all about positioning of windows servers. That is all. It says nothing about their embrace of open source. The market wants to run some Jboss. MS wants to sell some server licenses. While they do this to help themselves, they can still slam java, open source, and move people from java to .net all while they position server 2003 as a worthy jboss host.

  8. embrace and extend... again by WiPEOUT · · Score: 5, Insightful

    MS: Let's work with JBos to interoperate more cleanly. Once we're done, we can always change the way ours works ... I mean improve on our protocols. Our customers can now use Windows and .NET to talk to JBoss, while JBoss users can't talk to our stuff. It's brilliant, as it makes JBoss look bad. Further, it will slow down the JBoss developers who will have to spend more time playing catch-up, while setting them up so that even if they change their own protocols in a game of tit-for-tat, we can point to them and say, "look, the JBoss developers deliberately broke compatibility with our software -- aren't they evil!".

  9. the obligatory... by oddtodd · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer."
        Sun Tzu (probably maybe)

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  10. Re:Does the phrase.... by rewt66 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Embrace, extend, and extinguish" mean anything to you?

  11. microsoft is gonna look out for ya by flacco · · Score: 4, Funny
    hey kid, whattaya in for? whadja do, kid? how much time dey give ya here in the commercial world, kid?


    my name's microsoft, but in here dey all calls me win-blows. don't worry, i'm gonna look out for ya. here, take dis left-over turkey sammwich i cribbed from da mess hall. it's yours. i want ya ta have it. no strings.


    no, really, dat's a cryin shame dey stuck youse in here wid a buncha cash-addicted boneheads like us. cryin shame. but i'm gonna watch your back for ya kid. i'm gonna make it my personal business dat you get outta here in one piece.


    look, i got some extra socks from da laundry. clean socks. outta my own pocket. you're gonna be all right, kid, don't worry about it.


    an' i got somethin else for ya. i got it taped up under my arm here. you're gonna like dis, kid. ya ever seen one a dese before? it's a SHIV, you goddamn brat! dat's right, now take off yer goddamn pants an' put dis butter on your ass.


    shaddap kid, quit yer goddamn cryin. whattaya think, you come in here an' eat a man's sammwich an' take a man's socks fer nothin'? shaddap, i said! you should feel lucky. you see oracle over dere? he don't use no butter! shoulda seen what he did to peoplesoft.


    man i hate dese goddamn punks. stupid, goddamn, punks.

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