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PS3 Price Up In The Air, Demos In 02/2006
Gamespot is reporting that the price for Sony's next-gen console is still something being worked out. Additionally, we're not going to get the chance to play demos for the system until February of 2006. From the article: "When asked why there were no playable PS3 games at the 2005 Tokyo Game Show, as previously promised by SCE president Ken Kutaragi, Saeki revealed that there was a long discussion inside Sony before the show opened. While many executives argued that it would be good for the public to play demos, eventually the decision was made to only show E3-style trailers, as it was the first time the PS3 was being shown publicly in Japan. When asked if there would be any changes to the February PS3 event where playable demos will be on hand, Saeki did not respond directly. However, he did say that SCE is planning something for the event that is sure to be a 'major' surprise. "
Yeah, probably a surprise in response to the Revolution and the new controller. I honestly don't know what other kind of suprise Sony could have. Both Sony and MS have had all their information out in the open for some time, so for there to be anything completely new coming out would be a real shocker.
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I would say that Sony's best bet is to not release any official numbers until after the Xbox360 comes out (but of course keep the rumors of affordable hardware flowing) so that they can keep as many people "on the fence" for the first weeks or so after the Xbox launch. That way they can take as much wind as possible out of 360's sails upon launching. After all, once the prices for both systems are set, it will galvanize many gamers to one side or the other on price alone and Sony needs to keep as many people as possible from comitting to the 360 early on.
I take the phrase "up in the air" to be synonymous with "sky high."
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So far, everyone replying here is interpreting Sony's "surprise" as some sort of response to or knockoff of Nintendo's controller. I thought that Sony and Microsoft had pretty much written off Nintendo as a competitor at this point, especially since the companies have such a different focus on markets and hardware strategies.
However, the way the original article was written, it implies that the "surprise" is in regard to PS3 demos... such as a fully playable game, or some sort of software development beyond what we're currently expecting for demos.
Somehow, I doubt that the price is going to be any cheaper than the 360. If Sony knows that they can price the PS3 for significantly less than the 360 without losing too much money, they wouldn't be debating the pricing internally, but would rather be trumpeting their lower price publically.
My gut feeling from all the news bits read here and there is that Sony is really having a hard time even _matching_ the 360's price, hence their hesitation to say anything publically.
But regardless of the price, I have to agree with you that it's the games that will most influence my decision.
The "surprise" involves a company partly named after a shape and partly rhymes with Linux, releasing a "Final" RPG game that is anything but final. :p
The big surprise will be that Sony will provide low interest financing for the purchase of new Playstation 3s and two games! Low low rates, and everyone leaves with a PS3 regardless of income! Bad credit? No problem! No job? Now problem! Everyone plays!
Seriously, I'm expecting that first, the PS3 release date in Japan is going to slip into Fall 2006. Not having playable demos at TGS says to me that there is no way they'll have good solid games ready by Spring. As for their surprise, I'm going with a new version of the popular Eye Toy being part of the basic PS3 bundle and perhaps being touted as an intrinsic part of the PS3 experience.
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Cheaper than the Xbox 360.
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Actually I wouldn't be surprised if it's cheaper than the XBox 360. (I'm also not convinced it *will* be.)
Now, cheaper than the XBox Three-Shitty at $299 isn't gonna happen.
Sony has launched in the US for $299 for both the PS1 and PS2, I suspect they are still weighing the pros and cons of trying to keep to that price point again for the PS3, no matter the cost, vs some other point up to and including $399, I seriously don't think Sony will breach $399, as there has never been a successful console launch in the US over $299 yet, let alone $399, but with MS upping the stakes, we may be looking at the first $300+ generation of *successful* console launches. That or Nintendo will make out like a bandit.
Despite buying most previous consoles within months of launch, I am not personally looking to help usher in the $300+ launch price point and will not buy until the PS3 or the real XBox 360 is under $300, so I'll get to see all three launches and decide which to buy first (I'll eventually own them all) based on games available that I want to play.
Perhaps you are right. Not being privy to the future as you clearly are, I can only speculate.
But consider: you are a major company coming out with your next generation console, and know you will be releasing it after your closest competitor. What do you do? One approach would be to continually make noise about how expensive your product will be (without actually revealing any figures) and hope the competition will take the bait. They will hazard a guess as to what your selling point will be, price theirs somewhat lower, and hope to undercut you before you've even come out.
But what if it the speculation of a high-priced PS3 is just that? If Sony decided to announce theirs for less after the Xbox 360 debuts (even if that means what the Xbox 360 base is selling for) then they can indeed influence those buyers who think they'll be getting a better system for less.
Time will tell.
I'm getting a little sick of the stuff I've been hearing about Sony and Microsoft being scared of Nintendo's new controller.
Yeah, I don't think it's scary for them, but I think you're missing the point most Ninentdo fans are getting - Nintendo plans to launch this new controller design as a standard pack in. Think about what that means - very much like the original XBox and the hard drive vs Sony and it's hard drive add on. In order for something new to catch on, it usually has to be a standard feature or it fails (dual-shock and N64 mem expansion being the exceptions to the rule, although dual-shock did quickly become a pack in proving the rule).
The second part of this is that Nintendo has not said they won't be packing a standard controller attachment or a Gamecube controller for use on standard games as well - I wouldn't be surprised if this were the case, and I actually expect it to be the case. Alternatively, they may decide not to do either knowing that they can count on most people either having a GC controller or being willing to buy the attachment separately to play "regular" games.
So despite the fact it probably isn't that scary to MS or Sony, you have to admit it is both different and exciting, especially in light of both Sony and MS releasing machines that feature speed upgrades (which to me seem more incremental than exponential) and the "new" feature of wireless (not standard on the XBox Three-Shitty of course) which Nintendo already perfected and proved. (Yes, third parties did it earlier, but the WaveBird is the first *good* implementation I've owned.)
I'm really surprised that no one's already mentioned this, but at the beginning of this week it looked like Sony's Blue Ray disk format was going to be the hands-down victor in the up and coming format wars. Then, a day or two ago both Microsoft and Sony announced support for the competing HD DVD format, and suddenly Sony has real competition in a fight that looked to be a foregone conclusion in their favor. Loss in the format war would be horrifically expensive for Sony. As such, I really don't think it's too great of a stretch to assume that they'll be more willing to take more of a loss on the hardware than they otherwise would have. Cheap PS3's ensure that millions of homes will be equipped with Blue Ray players (PS3's will play Blue Ray movies out of the box), giving Sony an instant customer base for their Blue Ray movies. Couple this with news this week that MS's X-Box division is currently 4 Billion dollars in the hole after its 4 years of existence and is experiencing increasing pressure both internally and from shareholders to turn a profit, and it starts to look reasonably likely that the PS3 and its superior hardware could retail for less than the 360 throughout the consoles' lifecycle. I don't think that a PS3 launch price point of $349 or even $299 are at all out of the question.
Additionally, we're not going to get the chance to play demos for the system until February of 2006.
Actually, the article didn't even come close to saying that. It said:
When asked if there would be any changes to the February PS3 event where playable demos will be on hand, Saeki did not respond directly. However, he did say that SCE is planning something for the event that is sure to be a "major" surprise.
That could mean there will be demos sooner, or that you won't even get demos in February. It doesn't mean what the summary says.
Can we mod this article as "Troll"?