Who would want to pay average salaries (10-100 times previous costs) for something that they cannot enjoy unless they lock it up. (or choose to wear/carry it in public and therefore donate it to the world as it will be copied instantly beyond your control).
This in effect destroys the value of money barter system. And since rent still DOES cost money, you effectively destroyed an industry of artists+ who no longer can afford rent as while there was a market for cheap content. There is not a market for the pricelevel that is now the break even point.
I hope you DO realize that alot of those roms are in licensing hell.
This isn't as easy as iTunes where 5 companies accounted for the majority. The NES Library is REALLY widespread and quite hellish. Hell even SNES isn't as easy as you would think it would be.
PS2 didn't win mass appeal until 2.5 years later when it hit the 200$ price point.
Oh and btw, Sony provided 900,000 PS2 units to Japan opening weekend....this time its providing 100,000 PS3 units. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playstation_2)
60-70% of the Japanese retail find your competitor more interesting/capable. 65-70% of the Japanese develoupment houses interest rests with your competitors. 65-75% of Japanese consumer market interested in buying your competitor's product citing the #1 reason as "cost" against your product.
And in Famijitsu, THE japanese gaming mag...you are pulling 5% more popularity in Japan than the Xbox 360... (* That right there alone should be causing panic!)
Long story short....He had to relearn how he used his mouse to avoid problems.
It came to this because quite frankly no one designed something to suit his individual finger mobilty limit, mainly due to the fact that just about everyone in this situation is unique, each having their own limits, tonerances, and ability.
If she can move her wrist in a full circular motion, she can play wii. (*You will need to adjust the sensitivity settings)
If she has full upper body movement, she just needs to shit in an open chair (think stool, or on a raised platform.) Or just on the floor/open area with a comfortable rug, carpet, pillow, etc.)
It might be a good idea to try to rent the console when it comes out and give it a try and se what she thinks. (Esp if this was caused by an accident that removed sports from her life and she was unwilling/unable to rejoin various chair sport communities.)
The REAL problem with that 600$ price tag is that they have a LONG LONG LONG way to go down to hit 200$.
200$ is the pricepoint that every console has to eventually hit to REALLY push in units. The PS2 more than TRIPPLED market penetration when it hit that point. Its the reason they have over 100million units sold.
How long do you think its gonna take Sony to hit 200$ for a PS3....
Personally I think its gonna be a "Very long time"
And in the meantime all that has to happen is the Wii or XBox360 get to a 200$ pricepoint and launch games that people want.
That is Sony's problem. The Massmarket will definately wait (*the are used to it)... but will the develoupers wait till Sony hits a 200$ price point for greater game sells... will the 360/Wii have a "Killer App" AND a 200$ pricepoint in the meantime? will 360/Wii pull greater penetration therefore atracting more devs and more games?
I stole the care, that was sitting in your lawn, that had no engine, no stearing wear, no tires, but a HELLUVA stereo. Fixed everything up in complete working order, and started driving it.
Or as a better way of thinking about it. Someone shouldn't be able to patent something that they have no ability to produce and THEN be allowed to stop someone once THEY come up with a way to produce what you could not.
(*Note: the originator still gets $ based on the level of infringement, NOT based on legalized mob-like extortion, which quite frankly is what many were doing)
If Microsoft, and Nintendo have more production and holiday sales than Sony (* and at two times the price that is VERY possible) Sony could be in for a "very big problem" that will take a year + before they can try again at a lower price.
Remember "NEVER, underestimate the power of holiday sales" Its not called Back in Black Friday for nothing. And Sony is pissing it away to make more money on the initial run, while Nintendo and Microsoft could have more unit sales.
Everything you just about listed is a Japanese game (RPG, Strat, or...other *KD)
Right now, who owns Japan?
If you said Sony-PS2, you are incorrect.
Nintendo DS owns Japan, with sales 10 times that of the PS2, right now. DS has sales figures that blow PS2 sales curves during its best of quarters away.
Now If Nintendo Wii dominates Japan (and I believe they will, Japanese LOVE the type of gameplay Nintendo is providing, it is exactly how Japanese arcades thrive is with this type of unique interactive gameplay)
Nintendo Wii will steal the J-RPGs away from Sony. (*SquareEnix follows money, If nintendo outsells Sony, Square will have games for the Wii a year later.) (*Nippon Ichi has published for Nintendo before, and all of their games could be ported to a SNES, PS1, etc. They too could easily switch release plans to Nintendo if they won console sales. Katamari could have been on Gamecube easily, and Namco has published quite a bit to Nintendo before. The only reason I believe Katamari didn't make gamecube was that by KS's release, GC had mostly tanked in sales.)
So I honestly could see owning a XBox360 for all but J-RPGs, Owning a Wii for unique gameplay, Nintendo Franchises, and Japanese games like J-RPGs and unique stuff like KD
....Did you just really, REALLY compare E3 to PAX....
I'm sorry sir, but you are an idiot.
PAX is a con for gamers to enjoy gaming. A few, FEW, companies show up and have titles that have been on the dog/pony tour for quite a while. And you think sales clerks/store managers should be at this? When, by the time it makes its way to PAX, buying decision were already filed MONTHS ago (if not already filed delivered and SOLD at the stores.
Repeat after me PAX = Love for the Act of Gaming (including non-video gaming) E3 = Business Side of Industry
Revenue is ALL the money you make before expenses.
If you sold 100 glasses of 1$ lemonade, you made 100$ revenue. Now if that lemonade was licensed lemonade and you had to pay a 50cent licensing fee per glass.
You still had 100$ revenue 50$ in expenses 50$ in profits
It doesn't matter a flying flip what apple has to pay to the record labels, they (Apple) collected the money at a sale and therefore it is revenue.
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What the heck are you talking about?
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Nintendo ALWAYS does massive beta test, PUBLIC beta tests, Real world usage beta test.
There were all KINDS of wonderful secretive "get the word out" Wii parties going on. (part of the Wii ambassador program)
Here I'll link a few:
http://gonintendo.com/?p=6254
http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/top/secret-wii-parti
http://forums.nintendo.com/nintendo/board/message
http://picturethis.clubmom.com/picture_this/2006/
....No
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_woods
How is it still unique when as soon as you walk outside with it anyone else can have it too?
Would the rich society that supports artists buy art if all their fellow societians would have the same thing as soon as they showed it off?
(*Look at my new mink! Yes its now my new mink, and my new mink *)
This "Killed" uniqueness as it is now impossible to be "unique".
Those that WERE willing to pay prices for unique wares are no longer as copybot kills the ability to be unique and show off.
There-in lies the problem:
Who would want to pay average salaries (10-100 times previous costs) for something that they cannot enjoy unless they lock it up.
(or choose to wear/carry it in public and therefore donate it to the world as it will be copied instantly beyond your control).
This in effect destroys the value of money barter system. And since rent still DOES cost money, you effectively destroyed an industry of artists+ who no longer can afford rent as while there was a market for cheap content. There is not a market for the pricelevel that is now the break even point.
How about using 1/4 your "base" Harddrive to play one game, or spend quite of bit of loading time.
That game is Ridge Racer, it requests 5gigs for a local install. And this info is from the japanese lead producer of the title.
You underestimate the Japanese facination with "Novelty"
DDR was "Novelty"
The DS was "Novelty"
Most PS2 games, Especially RPGs and game opening sequences.
Well lets think about this.
Which do you think is fairer?
#1 Opera is default and everyone effectively pays for it?
#2 Opera is cheaply available to those who will use it (based on game prices say 5$-10$) and the console was effectively CHEAPER because of this.
Personally I'd rather the option to pay for what I use, instead of paying for others to have something i might never use.
I hope you DO realize that alot of those roms are in licensing hell.
This isn't as easy as iTunes where 5 companies accounted for the majority. The NES Library is REALLY widespread and quite hellish. Hell even SNES isn't as easy as you would think it would be.
Give it time...if its successful they will come.
Actually...no it didn't.
PS2 didn't win mass appeal until 2.5 years later when it hit the 200$ price point.
Oh and btw, Sony provided 900,000 PS2 units to Japan opening weekend....this time its providing 100,000 PS3 units. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playstation_2)
If they were basing it on last generation it would be
Worldwide: Sony > Nintendo > Microsoft
In US it was Sony > Microsoft > Nintendo.
And if you factor in handhelds...
Its Sony and Nintendo nearly equal > Microsoft.
(* Yes GBA and DS did that well)
I personally find it hillarious a few people took that seriously :) :)
:)
;)
2 people actually thought I was flaming
Ahh slashdot... How I love thee
I have a lil karma to burn so hey, don't change it or mod me up. That would spoil the fun
*OMG* another "All hail Nintendo" brought to you by Zonk!
*OMG* Who wants to play with their wii?
*OMG* Ponies!, Nintendo iz 4 kidz!
(I want blood, boobs, and blunts. I wanna be a (rated M for mature) HARDCORE gamer!)
Did I forget any?
Dear Sony shrill, you forgot:
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60-70% of the Japanese retail find your competitor more interesting/capable.
65-70% of the Japanese develoupment houses interest rests with your competitors.
65-75% of Japanese consumer market interested in buying your competitor's product citing the #1 reason as "cost" against your product.
And in Famijitsu, THE japanese gaming mag...you are pulling 5% more popularity in Japan than the Xbox 360... (* That right there alone should be causing panic!)
Sources:
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_cont
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_cont
But what if that IS the price...
And they are NOT planning price drops for a 1-2years....
What if the price drop 1.5years later is 399-499
What then pray tell? 2-3 more years till the magic 200$ price tag making it 4-5years into production?
Same sorta thing came up with my supervisor...
Long story short....He had to relearn how he used his mouse to avoid problems.
It came to this because quite frankly no one designed something to suit his individual finger mobilty limit, mainly due to the fact that just about everyone in this situation is unique, each having their own limits, tonerances, and ability.
Incorrect.
Radio broadcasts are not paid to the artist.
(go ask ANY artist...they'll tell you the same)
Ah, so we should just throw them away instead!
(this is the reality, they end up in a dumpster)
I seem to recall the bible AND churches, including those you named, disagreeing with wasting God's gifts.
If she can move her wrist in a full circular motion, she can play wii.
(*You will need to adjust the sensitivity settings)
If she has full upper body movement, she just needs to shit in an open chair (think stool, or on a raised platform.) Or just on the floor/open area with a comfortable rug, carpet, pillow, etc.)
It might be a good idea to try to rent the console when it comes out and give it a try and se what she thinks. (Esp if this was caused by an accident that removed sports from her life and she was unwilling/unable to rejoin various chair sport communities.)
%100 Price
The REAL problem with that 600$ price tag is that they have a LONG LONG LONG way to go down to hit 200$.
200$ is the pricepoint that every console has to eventually hit to REALLY push in units. The PS2 more than TRIPPLED market penetration when it hit that point. Its the reason they have over 100million units sold.
How long do you think its gonna take Sony to hit 200$ for a PS3....
Personally I think its gonna be a "Very long time"
And in the meantime all that has to happen is the Wii or XBox360 get to a 200$ pricepoint and launch games that people want.
That is Sony's problem. The Massmarket will definately wait (*the are used to it)...
but will the develoupers wait till Sony hits a 200$ price point for greater game sells...
will the 360/Wii have a "Killer App" AND a 200$ pricepoint in the meantime?
will 360/Wii pull greater penetration therefore atracting more devs and more games?
Lets try it this way:
I stole the care, that was sitting in your lawn, that had no engine, no stearing wear, no tires, but a HELLUVA stereo. Fixed everything up in complete working order, and started driving it.
Or as a better way of thinking about it. Someone shouldn't be able to patent something that they have no ability to produce and THEN be allowed to stop someone once THEY come up with a way to produce what you could not.
(*Note: the originator still gets $ based on the level of infringement, NOT based on legalized mob-like extortion, which quite frankly is what many were doing)
The problem with you theory is this:
Production.
If Microsoft, and Nintendo have more production and holiday sales than Sony
(* and at two times the price that is VERY possible) Sony could be in for a "very big problem" that will take a year + before they can try again at a lower price.
Remember "NEVER, underestimate the power of holiday sales" Its not called Back in Black Friday for nothing. And Sony is pissing it away to make more money on the initial run, while Nintendo and Microsoft could have more unit sales.
Everything you just about listed is a Japanese game (RPG, Strat, or ...other *KD)
Right now, who owns Japan?
If you said Sony-PS2, you are incorrect.
Nintendo DS owns Japan, with sales 10 times that of the PS2, right now. DS has sales figures that blow PS2 sales curves during its best of quarters away.
Now If Nintendo Wii dominates Japan
(and I believe they will, Japanese LOVE the type of gameplay Nintendo is providing, it is exactly how Japanese arcades thrive is with this type of unique interactive gameplay)
Nintendo Wii will steal the J-RPGs away from Sony.
(*SquareEnix follows money, If nintendo outsells Sony, Square will have games for the Wii a year later.)
(*Nippon Ichi has published for Nintendo before, and all of their games could be ported to a SNES, PS1, etc. They too could easily switch release plans to Nintendo if they won console sales. Katamari could have been on Gamecube easily, and Namco has published quite a bit to Nintendo before. The only reason I believe Katamari didn't make gamecube was that by KS's release, GC had mostly tanked in sales.)
So I honestly could see owning a XBox360 for all but J-RPGs, Owning a Wii for unique gameplay, Nintendo Franchises, and Japanese games like J-RPGs and unique stuff like KD
....Did you just really, REALLY compare E3 to PAX....
I'm sorry sir, but you are an idiot.
PAX is a con for gamers to enjoy gaming. A few, FEW, companies show up and have titles that have been on the dog/pony tour for quite a while. And you think sales clerks/store managers should be at this? When, by the time it makes its way to PAX, buying decision were already filed MONTHS ago (if not already filed delivered and SOLD at the stores.
Repeat after me
PAX = Love for the Act of Gaming (including non-video gaming)
E3 = Business Side of Industry
Revenue is ALL the money you make before expenses.
If you sold 100 glasses of 1$ lemonade, you made 100$ revenue.
Now if that lemonade was licensed lemonade and you had to pay a 50cent licensing fee per glass.
You still had 100$ revenue
50$ in expenses
50$ in profits
It doesn't matter a flying flip what apple has to pay to the record labels, they (Apple) collected the money at a sale and therefore it is revenue.