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Magnetic Computing Takes a Step Forward

MaceyHW writes "PhysOrg.com reports a big step forward in the development of magnetic microchips. Since their initial creation of a magnetic logic gate in 2002, an international team of researchers from Durham University, Imperial College, London and the University of Sheffield 'team has created a number of further "logic gates" and created interconnecting structures using magnetic "nanowires," which can now reproduce the logic functions of a conventional computer.'"

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  1. But who needs magnets... by ettlz · · Score: 3, Funny

    ..when we've already got a laptop powered by a 6,8 GHz quantum optical processor with 1 TB of NvlOpRAM?

  2. Hmm,... by xgadflyx · · Score: 4, Funny

    Does this mean we'll eventually have computers we can stick to the fridge?

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  3. 'Clock' speeds by Linker3000 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I didn't see anything in the article about clocking speeds (if, indeed this type of technology is clocked - I guess so?) - any ideas?

    I'll have to find that old bubble core magnetic memory I stuck up in the attic some years ago - it might come in useful!

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  4. In other news by ReformedExCon · · Score: 3, Funny

    Scientist at the Cave of Ogg have discovered that wood may be able to be used a source of fire. Following hot on the heels of their previous breakthroughs with the ignition of fire, Ogg and Gor have discovered that fire is held in a solid state in certain types of wood. By transferring an existing fire to a piece of wood is said to "unlock" the fire within the wood and set it ablaze. Ogg's spokesman said that study will continue to find the exact amount of fire held within the various types of wood available near the Cave.

    Seriously? Magnets?

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    1. Re:In other news by smithmc · · Score: 2, Insightful

        Seriously? Magnets?

      What do you mean, "seriously"? Why is the idea of using positive and negative magnetic potentials to represent information any stranger than the idea of using positive and negative electrical potentials?

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  5. Why better? by ottffssent · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The article sort of mumbled through why I should care. Does anyone know? Do these logic gates offer the promise of smaller, faster, cheaper, or lower-power CPUs? Some combination of the above? Do they allow the creation of computers of a type not practical before? Where's the beef?

    1. Re:Why better? by megla · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Doesn't the prospect of a more efficent computer count then?
      If this scales to a useful level, you'd need much less power to run such a processor as it wouldn't all be being burnt off as heat - so your mobile phone could last much longer on a single charge, etc etc.
      Sounds like reason enough to at least give the technology a chance to me...

    2. Re:Why better? by megla · · Score: 2, Insightful

      God save us, they hadn't thought of that!
      Quick, we need someone to develop some sort of amazing technology that can BLOCK EVIL MAGNETIC RAYS!!

      Magnetic sheilding is hardly that difficult now is it.

    3. Re:Why better? by RicktheBrick · · Score: 4, Informative

      IBM has been working on mram for some time now. It is magnetic ram. It is non-volatile memory. It does not lose its state even when power is removed. It could replace all existing memory(rom, flash, hard drive, ram).

    4. Re:Why better? by ramblin+billy · · Score: 4, Informative


      How about 100 GB of storage capacity for the cost of a memory card ? Magnetic microchips used in cell phones could make them fully functional video cameras. In addition, the chips are non-volatile, so startup lag will become a not-so-fond memory. They use much less power than electronic chips. They can be made much smaller, possibly as small as a few atoms. The examples they have already fabricated "use no silicon and require no multilayer processing and so can be manufactured at very low cost on flexible substrates, while offering non-volatility, radiation hardness and several hundreds of MHz of bandwidth" . They're talking about plastic chips. Pretty impressive.

      The technology, which is still being developed, can be classified as "nanotech" and is called "magnetic domain-wall logic" and is based on spintronics. Lots of folks are working on this because many believe that spintronics will allow for great advances in areas from quantum computing to DNA based molecular electronic devices. This particular development is important because it represents the first actual construction of logic gates, which are the basis of computing. So far the group has produced a "NOT gate" and a "11-stage serial shift register / digital frequency divider" in a 200nm design rule. They have also demonstrated the transfer of magnetic information without the use of magnetic fields. This paves the way for hybrid chips with both electronic and spintronic components. Such "3D chips" could contain many times the amount of information possible with current electronic chips. They will run cooler, with short "nanowire" pathways, and have the potential to surpass the performance of silicon chips. Moore's Law marches on.

      billy - wonder if the "$100 laptop" guys have their phone number?

  6. I can always dream... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    It would be nice if we had magnetic disks. North or South corresponds to 0 or 1.

  7. Disposable features? by torchdragon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "This would also imply that the computers being economical would become still more disposable. 'This means that they could be used for cheap and therefore disposable simple computers in the future.'"

    Why is this a feature? We've already shown ourselves how wonderful "displosable" technology really is. Why do we think we need more useless broken garbage? How reclaimable is it? Can we just throw a bunch of these into a pot, separate the various metals and cook up new ones when the technology improves? Disposable != Economical. You have to have an economy before you can throw it in the garbage.

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  8. Yeah, and here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... is the picture !

  9. Goodbye Transistors.... by cheezemonkhai · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hello Core Memory...

    Seriously core memory was magnetic and was first thing I thought of when I read the headline.

  10. Yellow warning sticker! by jurt1235 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Warning: Do not place any creditcards on top or close of this device. The card might get damaged!

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  11. I'm guessing... by wootest · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm guessing one of those computers won't have floppy drives.

  12. Two Questions: by Comatose51 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    1. Anyone know how high they can scale in terms of speed in the near future?

    2. It seems like magneticism is somewhat harder to contain than electricity, even though they're the same thing. What I mean is that we heard about leakage in processors as we get smaller and smaller dies. How is interference from other units controlled/mitigated in these chips?

    I am definitely NOT a physicists so these question might sound lame but this is the first time I've heard of these chips and the article don't say much. Maybe I'm getting way ahead right now. New computational technology is always very cool, which I hope these chips are in the literal sense as well.

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  13. Well now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I have, erm, sources connected to this story.

    Basically, don't expect miracles. The signals can travel incredibly fast through these devices (can't remember exact figures) but there are problems. The signals are driven by an external magnetic field. Single magnetic pulse can drive high speed data transmission, but not normally operation of the circuit. Continuous operation would likely be in the 10s of kHZ to 1s of MHz range.

    The main uses are in low power, low demand devices. Or in systems which need to be resistant to EM radiation (certain military interest there).

    Similarities to core memory? Basically that's MRAM. And chips of MRAM up to about several hundred kb can now be mass produced.

    But as for "they have made a computer" - we're not talking Pentiums. We're talking about having demonstrated the functions which compose such chips - NOT, AND, OR and signal combination and splitting. Nothing more.

  14. Re:Magnetic Computing? by mr+i+want+to+go+home · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I guess that's why the article suggests applications in "disposable" computing. I don't really have a problem with this - it's much the same as saying paper is easily destroyed by a glass of water or red wine. You just know to keep things in the right environment.

  15. More info is available on the earlier research by N+Monkey · · Score: 4, Informative
    The article sort of mumbled

    Yes, it was rather vague. A quick search with google turned up a more detailed report on their earlier work:( I used "bug me not" to login to read it :-) )

    Just to give the flavour of this report, it states...

    "Physicists at the University of Durham (Durham, UK) have fabricated a magnetic NOT gate that can operate at room temperature. It is the first wholly magnetic logic device to be formed on a microchip, and offers a key to what could become a completely new micro- and nano-magnetic chip technology.

    The Durham NOT gate consists of a track of a naturally ferromagnetic alloy shaped like an inverted "Y." The magnetism of this ferromagnetic alloy tends to run parallel to its track length and points in one of two opposite directions. A single ferromagnetic track can contain different regions, each magnetized in one of these two directions. Where these opposite magnetizations meet, a transition region or "domain wall" is formed in which the..."

  16. Re:Development by secondexpress · · Score: 2, Informative

    Much of the funding has come from Eastgate, a Venture Capital firm based in Dubai. I think the IP rights are shared between them and the university, but Eastgate won't develop the idea. Rather, they'll look for people who are willing to.

  17. Re:Magnetic Computing? by minorproblem · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Or the kind that doesn't require power to hold the processor in one state but only power when its changing states.

  18. Yay! Disposable! by chihowa · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Bringing us ever closer to a world full of disposable junk!

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  19. Not too practical by Eukariote · · Score: 3, Informative

    The method referenced is called "magnetic domain-wall logic". It works by propagating domain walls in small ferromagnetic wires. They have demonstrated various logic elements. Unfortunately, the domain-wall propagation is powered by immersing the circuit into a rotating or alternating magnetic field. This requires bulky external coils, rotating the IC itself inside a permanent magnet, or rotating a permanent magnet around the IC.

    In the demonstrations, field frequency is measured in the tens of Hertz. I could not find a reference to the propagation velocity, but one wire width per cycle would be a reasonable guess. In short, horribly slow.

    1. Re:Not too practical by secondexpress · · Score: 2, Informative

      Nope, they've actually demonstrated rotating frequencies causing switching up to the 10s (and borderline 100s) of kHz. Much beyond that is pretty much impossible due to inductance. Propagation velocity has been measured by the team (http://www.nature.com/nmat/journal/v2/n2/abs/nmat 803.html;jsessionid=2BEBA5768D730301A7C432AF98F1AE 18) to be very high indeed.

  20. These Comments are Horrible... by amdotaku · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This technology seems to me to open as many unique exciting possibilities as when semiconductor technology first emerged. First of all, if you actually RTFA, these microchips generate no heat, which also suggests that they are very low power. Remember, not every microchip in the world today is your over clocked dual core Athlon 64, but rather are useful things like stepper motor controllers and what not. The fact is, this may allow an alternative method to make some of the thousands of silicon based components used in devices today cheaper or more efficient for use. Any new approach is always good for the technological community assuming it even has the potential for any benefits.

    Also, I fail to see where the susceptibility of such devices to external magnetic fields would be any more exaggerated than those of devices employing electrical circuits, and dare I say that these devices may not be susceptible to "unacceptable" issues with silicon devices like ESD? Try waving a magnet over some parts of your motherboard or power supply when its in use at close range, but do so at your own risk.

    1. Re:These Comments are Horrible... by secondexpress · · Score: 2, Informative

      The circuits are pretty much unaffected by most external magnetic fields. The problem with them is actually producing a field which a) is strong enough to affect them and b) can change fast enough to actually do useful data processing. The 200nm wide wires used (some down to 120nm) can only support one magnetic domain across them, so you can't 'corrupt' a single bit other than by flipping it. And the field required to flip it would need to be really strong - probably hundreds of Oersteds. That's why the logic devices they use are so clever - they don't flip bits by applying magnetic fields to them, but rather the nanowires make use of geometry to force the magnetic domains into unusual junctions where they get rotated. The best analogy is a car doing a three point turn - a NOT operation. It starts the movement in one direction, and comes out of it facing anothher.

  21. Invaluabe "news" at its best by sigmoid_balance · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This comment is as useless as the article. It gives nothing of true relevance. Kinda reminds me of that character in Monkey Island who wanted "something that will atract attention, but have no real importance".

    Now to be in the real spirit of Slashdot, mod me insightfull.