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The Science Of Happiness

Hogwash McFly writes "There's an interesting article over at The Times that attempts to answer the question 'So what do you have to do to find happiness?' by exploring the biology and psychology behind this highly sought-after emotion. This article opens up new insight into the common perceptions of what makes us happy, such as having more friends and more money. Detailed in the article is the idea that our early ancestors' struggles against adverse weather and predators have led us to instinctually focus on what is wrong or out of place in order to react with more efficiency, then going onto autopilot when things are going well."

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  1. Happiness by CmdrTaco+(troll) · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is a successful FP.

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    I hope high gas prices are depriving your children, you fucking dumbass.
  2. Eh, I gave up by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm such a black hearted emotionless wreck at this point, looking for happiness is a fruitless endeavor.

    1. Re:Eh, I gave up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Blarg, I was going to suggest a shotgun mouthwash but then I read your username and felt kind of bad.

  3. happiness is overrated by scenestar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    After having been chronically depressed for the past years i found out that happiness is just a balance of the right drugs.

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    1. Re:happiness is overrated by RobinH · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Now, now... anti-depressants don't actually make you happy... they just make the depression subside a bit so you can get moving again and make yourself happy. Taking anti-depressants is like if you have a hole in your boat and you're sinking, the drugs are like pumping out the bilge. It doesn't fix the problem, but it will keep you afloat until you can get to a safe harbour and repair the damage.

      But I'm sure you knew that already... :-)

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  4. Happiness is against human nature.. by brxndxn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No matter where you are or what you acheive, one is never truly happy. To be happy is to be content.. and to be content is to lack the craving to better oneself. And to lack that craving is to lack a fundamental part of 'survival of the fittest.'

    Yes.. It's human nature to be discontent.. and that separates some of us from the apes.

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    1. Re:Happiness is against human nature.. by BishonenAngstMagnet · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You can be truly happy without being fully happy. I am truly happy about many things in life. But I'm not fully happy, as there are aspects of my life (as with everyone else) that are not perfect.

    2. Re:Happiness is against human nature.. by nathan+s · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm not exactly sure that "bettering oneself" necessarily has any relation to "survival of the fittest" - many people's idea of "bettering" themselves have led them to early deaths, like some of the great explorers. In terms of sheer survival of the fittest, the person who doesn't stick his neck out too far and manages to safely pass on his genes to the next generation the most times is often [but not always] the fittest, and that has little to do with bettering himself.

    3. Re:Happiness is against human nature.. by AstrumPreliator · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes.. It's human nature to be discontent.. and that separates some of us from the apes.
       
      I always thought it was the fact that some of us don't fling poo at eachother that seperated us from the apes... I guess I was mistaken.
       
      ;)

    4. Re:Happiness is against human nature.. by grogdamighty · · Score: 4, Interesting
      From a pure natural selection standpoint, bettering oneself has nothing to do with selection - all that matters is that you reproduce.

      The whole point of natural selection is that you are already the best - that's why you've survived long enough to procreate.

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    5. Re:Happiness is against human nature.. by Citizen+of+Earth · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Homer: Mr. Burns, you're the richest man I know.
      Mr. Burns: But I'd give it all up for a little more.

  5. Twins by mysqlrocks · · Score: 4, Insightful

    For happiness levels are probably genetic: identical twins are usually equally bubbly or grumpy.

    This doesn't mean it's genetic. Twins most likely grew up together, right? Couldn't it have something to do with the environment/family instead of genes?

  6. Religion? by Programmerangel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm surprised the article doesn't explore Religion and it's affect on people's happiness.

    1. Re:Religion? by Overdrive_SS · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually Christianity says there is no way to earn your way into heaven. Everyone has sinned and that sin has earned you eternal seperation from God. However, Christ came to earth, lived a perfect life, and then died in your place. He took the punishment instead of making you try to pay for it, which you can't. And now He offers forgiveness for those sins and a relationship with Him if you believe and ask. It is a free gift. You'll still have problems in life, but you'll always have God to take care of them and the hope that one day you'll be with Him forever in heaven.

      As an aside, people have used all kinds of excuses to do horrible things and just because they tried to justify it by saying God said to do it, doesn't mean that God actually said to do it.

    2. Re:Religion? by JanneM · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'm surprised the article doesn't explore Religion and it's affect on people's happiness.

      Probably because religion - just like many other things - are somewhat orthogonal to happiness. Being religious does not make you more or less likely to be happy.

      I dare say it's not what you take an interest in that matters, but that you do take an interest in something that is the important thing. Whether you crusade for an old testament-based judicial system with mandatory stoning for wearing mixed fibers; or campaign for the right to gay sex with donkeys dressed up as nuns in public while smoking pot from a cross-shaped bong really doesn't matter for your happiness just as long as you are passionate about it.

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    3. Re:Religion? by IamLarryboy · · Score: 5, Funny

      A post on slashdot which accuratly portrays the gospel!!!! I do believe I have now seen everything.

    4. Re:Religion? by Bastian · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I remember reading somewhere that Buddhism is the only major religion that has been positively correlated with happiness. Possibly it has something to do with Buddhism being the only major religion (that I can think of) whose sole stated purpose is to make people happier.

    5. Re:Religion? by glsunder · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Take a look at christianity without the blinders of organized religion on. Many of the teachings apply to happiness here on earth. Throw away the BS that others have added -- the rituals, the idea that people should suffer, that only bad people are poor, that only bad people are rich, that we should hate certain people, that the world is 6,000 years old, etc.

      What you're left with is basically: forgive people, be kind others, don't dwell on the negative, and enjoy the good things you have. Every one of those increases happiness for both the individual and others around them. Christianity isn't as bad as christians make it.

  7. Slashdot MOTD by puppetman · · Score: 4, Funny

    Saw a message of the day at the bottom of the slashdot page a few weeks ago:

    "Men don't know what happiness is until they are married, but by then it's too late".

    Good for wedding toasts...

    1. Re:Slashdot MOTD by Citizen+of+Earth · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "Men don't know what happiness is until they are married, but by then it's too late"

      “Happiness isn't something you experience; it's something you remember.”—Oscar Levant

  8. As The Beatles would say by ZakuSage · · Score: 5, Funny

    Happiness is a warm gun.

  9. Happiness is individualised perception by drijen · · Score: 5, Interesting

    For many of my co-workers here in the bible belt, hapiness is letting their worries be "god's" worries. IF thats so for most religious people, i would cynically say that hapiness is letting someone else have repsonsibilty. The article seems to concretrate heavily on the religous "values".

    I look it a different way:

    When i die, i want to fly, sliding on my side at 100 MPH into the pearly gates, wearing a huge smile smile, yelling "WOW! What a ride!".

    I hate for my life to be dull and unispiring - that for me is happiness.

    I wonder if they did a case study on Adrenaline junkies, priests, and people like Linus Torvalds. Only then could i trust the science of happiness :(

    1. Re:Happiness is individualised perception by aaza · · Score: 3, Funny
      "WOW! What a ride!"

      "I wanna do it again!"
      *Runs off to find the end of the queue*

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      In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.
      In practice, however, there is.
  10. Happiness is a serious problem by cold+fjord · · Score: 4, Interesting


    Anyone concerned with happiness might want to consider reading Happiness is a Serious Problem by Dennis Prager.

    He devotes an hour a week (called the "Happiness Hour") on his radio program to the question of happiness.

    Agree or disagree, he is thought provoking. His approach is also interesting in that he values clarity over agreement and has callers and guests from across the ideological / political spectrum.

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    much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot - George Orwell
  11. Can't be sure, since the article doesn't say... by nathan+s · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...but usually twin studies take this into account, including identical twins who were for one reason or another raised in different families (often as a result of adoption). Researchers are not all stupid; they tend to take these things into account when designing the study.

  12. Happiness comes from within by The+Amazing+Fish+Boy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Warning: Wishy-washy bullshit approaching. Proceed with caution.

    Learn that you do not need anything except the biological neccessities for survival. Appreciate the present, but don't be considered with the future. Give up all attachments. Take only what you need to live.

    The fact is, the more you have, the more you want. Do you ever see anyone without a TV lusting after a big screen plasma TV? Do you ever see someone without a computer lusting after the latest AMD processor? They spend time with those they care about, they read things, they think, they learn. Not only can you not buy happiness, buying actively makes you unhappy.

  13. Happiness versus Contentment by GillBates0 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    This article opens up new insight into the common perceptions of what makes us happy, such as having more friends and more money.

    Interesting article...especially given my recent reading on the Hindu/Buddhistic concept of "detachment". These traditions prescribe detachment from wordly/materialistic desires in order to achieve contentment in life.

    In short, anything that you're sufficiently attached to, that can give you enough happiness, can cause you as much pain when taken away. The solution therefore, is to follow a middle path practising detachment from all wordly desires, so as to walk along the middle path - neither be swayed emotionally toward too much towards happiness, nor being overly susceptible to sadness.

    Happiness is a short lived emotion, (often accompanied by a potentially negative emotion of sadness) while contentment with what you have is usually a longer lived state of mind.

    /Not overly religious...just a philosophy I like subscribing to...especially after a recent -ve swing in the state of affairs.

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    An Indian-American Hindu committed to non-violent thought/speech/action alarmed by the global explosion of radical Islam
    1. Re:Happiness versus Contentment by mattjb0010 · · Score: 4, Informative

      In short, anything that you're sufficiently attached to, that can give you enough happiness, can cause you as much pain when taken away. The solution therefore, is to follow a middle path practising detachment from all wordly desires, so as to walk along the middle path - neither be swayed emotionally toward too much towards happiness, nor being overly susceptible to sadness.

      The four noble truths:
      1. Life means suffering.
      2. The origin of suffering is attachment.
      3. The cessation of suffering is attainable.
      4. The path to the cessation of suffering (aka the eightfold way).

    2. Re:Happiness versus Contentment by beesquee · · Score: 5, Interesting

      National Geographic had an article about measuring happiness in cultures using MRI's. They found out of all the people scanned Tibetan monks were by far the happiest people in the world despite living in subpoverty conditions. Make you think those buddhist's are onto something.

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  14. A stable ... by SpaceLifeForm · · Score: 4, Funny
    ... kernel.

    Yep, that's the ticket!

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  15. Wanting what you have by antiquark · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Happiness isn't having what you want, it's wanting what you have.

  16. Money by dfn5 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They say money can't buy happiness. However true this may be having the bill collectors call day in and day out certainly doesn't contribute to happiness either.

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    1. Re:Money by dgatwood · · Score: 5, Insightful
      One of my coworkers told me about a quote (of unknown origin). It was something to the effect of "The expression that money can't buy happiness is a lie perpetuated by the rich to keep the poor from killing them."

      I'm not sure that's entirely true, but I will say this: While money can't buy happiness, below a certain point, a lack thereof will assuredly buy misery.

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  17. Hapiness is simple by Locke2005 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Getting laid on a regular basis sure doesn't hurt... and if that doesn't work, try Prozac!

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  18. Monkeys too, you insensitive clod by bubbaD · · Score: 5, Funny
    I always thought it was the fact that some of us don't fling poo at eachother that seperated us from the apes...


    You must be new here!
  19. Going to Church != Knowing God != Believing in God by heldlikesound · · Score: 4, Interesting

    God cannot give us a happiness and peace apart from Himself, because it is not there. There is no such thing.

    C.S. Lewis

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  20. Exercise! by dentar · · Score: 3, Informative

    Plenty of exercise works. Seriously. Exercise cures depression. It's really that simple!

    (This doesn't apply to people with screwed-up brain chemistry.)

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  21. I remember by Dog135 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Happiness is remembering our childhoods entire.
    It is possible; I have done it.

    I never forgot my childhood. I remember crawling around, I remember breast feeding, (somethings I wish I could forget) and I even remember being born. (as well as an undeterminable duration of being inside my mom)

    The reason, I'm sure, has part to do with the fact I was born a full month late, and part to do with the fact that I'm both autistic (I clearly remember visual things very well) and I have ADD. (I tend to repeat things in my mind over and over)

    I must say, the memories themselves have never brought me happiness. What makes me happy is improving myself by learning new things and new skills. And there will always be an abundance of things for me to learn. If I didn't have to worry about money, I'd be happy my whole life. This past year on paid leave, then unemployment has been wonderful, not counting the occasional meeting I had to go to.

    Work, and by association, money, are the root of unhappiness. (esp. working at a state job)
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  22. Re:Simple by aaqubed · · Score: 3, Funny
    Work is slavery

    No...FREEDOM is slavery!

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  23. A post that begins "Actually Christianity says..." by Errandboy+of+Doom · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...is bound to be wrong.

    Catholicism on Happiness:

    "Man has one ultimate purpose of existence: eternal happiness in a future life. But man also has a twofold proximate purpose: to earn his title to eternal happiness, and to attain to a measure of temporal happiness consistent with the prior proximate purpose."

    This is from "State and Church," in New Advent's Catholic Encyclopedia.

  24. Maslow's Pyramid by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 3, Insightful

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's_Pyramid

    Physiological, Safety, Love/Belonging, Esteem, Actualization.

    Fulfill these needs and you'll find happiness. (An interesting thought is that this view does not oppose christianity at all, they seem to fit very well)

    A personal observation upon myself is that the darkest times of my life were the ones where none (or only one) of these needs were fulfilled. If I didn't believe in God, i would surely have killed myself - so maybe Maslow's pyramid could also be used as an indicator for potential suicides. Just a thought.

  25. Slightly innacurate by Prien715 · · Score: 4, Informative

    As a somewhat practicing Buddhist, I always cringe when someone says "life means suffering (dukkha)" when Sanskrit word "dukkha" means so much more. The translation "life is unsatisfactory" is perhaps more accurate. Dissatisfaction is not just caused by suffering (i.e. the personal experience of loss) but also by the failures of expectations to be met and the innate mature of our mind -- especially knowledge of our own mortality.

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  26. Re:Make up your mind people. by benjamindees · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They had that meeting. Half of them decided to try for consistency and the other half decided to go for completeness. The completeness half is doing great, but makes absolutely no sense. And the consistency half gave up and became atheists.

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    "I assumed blithely that there were no elves out there in the darkness"
  27. Happiness = d/dt (well being) by CraigV · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The article was rather interesting, but didn't discuss my favorite theory:
    Happiness is often thought of being connected to one's health or economic well being, but I have considered it more connected with the rate of change of one's well being. A poor or unhealthy person can be happy if things look like they are getting better; a rich or healthy person can be unhappy if things are getting worse.

  28. Re:heal thyself by BKX · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While I agree with you, your argument lacks cohesion. Did you forget a paragraph going from a "myriad [of] consequential effects of the various substances you ... take in" to "any [drug] dependency ... is an indicator that something deeper is going wrong"? NB: I am not trying to be an ass.

    These studies to which you refer are probably the myriad of studies showing how bad the crap added to our food is. Drugs have nothing (or little, more often maybe) to do with it. Most people suffering from depression (This is NOT a joke!) can be done with it in about two weeks by eliminated high-fructose corn syrup (HFCS) from their diet. This usually means not drinking pop and buying the expensive condiments. Many more will recover by also eliminating white sugar. This is more difficult but possible. If you like candy, you will need to learn to make your own from natural unrefined sweeteners such as honey, maple syrup (the real kind, not "maple-flavored syrup". You'll pay big bucks for it but it is worth every penny), and stevia for those that want it calorie free. The other big cause of depression in our food and beverages is artificial sweeteners, including but not limited to aspartame, saccharin and sucralose. These are actually worse than sugar and HFCS and will cause you to GAIN WEIGHT if you use too much. If you ditch those sweeteners entirely, you WILL lose weight and probably get over depression.

    Remember, the only reason you don't know how bad this stuff is is because depressed people will consume more of it. Like the companies that sell this shit want you eating less. That's why they pay megabucks to develop artificial sweeteners that make you fat. You'll buy more of it. NB: HFCS is also artificial. It is a chemical cocktail produced from corn. Sucralose (Splenda) is also a chemical, created from corn using petroleum.

  29. Re:Having a HUGE Dick ... by Zone-MR · · Score: 3, Funny

    Whenever life gets you down
    Keeps you wearing a frown
    And the gravy train has left you behind
    And when you're all out of hope
    Down at the end of your rope
    And nobody's there to throw you a line

    If you ever get so low that you don't know which way to go
    Come on and take a walk in my shoes
    Never worry bout a thing
    Got the world on a string
    Cus I've got the cure for all of my blues (all of his blues)

    I take a look at my enormous penis
    And my troubles start a-meltin' away
    I take a look at my enormous penis
    And the happy times are coming to stay

    I got a sing and a dance when I glance in my pants
    And the feeling's like a sunshiney day
    I take a look at my enormous pe-e-e-nis
    And everything is goin' my way

    (whistling)

    (ad lib solo)

    PE-E-NIS

    (end ad lib solo)

    Everybody
    I take a look at my enormous penis
    And my troubles start a-meltin' away
    I take a look at my enormous penis
    And the happy times are coming to stay

    I got great big amounts in the place where it counts
    And the feeling's like a sunshiney day
    I take a look at my enormous penis
    And everything is goin' my way (my trouser monster)
    Everything is going' my way (my meat is murder)
    Everything is goin' my way (size doesn't matter)
    Everything is goin' my waaaaaay
    yummmm

    -- Enormous Penis, Da Vinci's Notebook

  30. Re:Insightful no. Swallowing the kool aid - yes. by crazyphilman · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You know what I find ironic? There's an actual story in the gospels that contradicts this guy's whole script about original sin and redemption. Here we go (I'm paraphrasing):

    A rich kid goes up to Jesus and asks, "How does one win entry into the kingdom of heaven?"

    Jesus replies "Follow the commandments."

    The kid says "Is that all there is to it?"

    Jesus says, "Well, if you want to be perfect, give your money to the poor and follow me as a disciple."

    The kid went away, saddened at this. Apparently he didn't want to give up his money.

    Jesus said as the kid walked away, "It is harder for a rich man to enter heaven than for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle."

    So, there you have it. If you want to get into heaven, obey the commandments. Nothing about swearing allegiance to Jesus, nothing about original sin, nothing about anything but "be nice to each other". If you want to be "perfect", follow Jesus and preach the Word, but he never said you HAD to.

    I think Christians tend to forget that JESUS WAS A JEW, so he believed in Jewish rules. He even said, "I am not the end of the law but the fulfillment of it".

    What happened was, over the past couple of thousand years, the Roman Catholic Church rearranged Jesus' principles in their dogma to solidify their power. It's pretty hard to threaten people if all they have to do to get into heaven is be nice to others. If a priest has to utter some magic words over your deathbed, though... Well, there ya go! Instant power.

    My .02...

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