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The Science Of Happiness

Hogwash McFly writes "There's an interesting article over at The Times that attempts to answer the question 'So what do you have to do to find happiness?' by exploring the biology and psychology behind this highly sought-after emotion. This article opens up new insight into the common perceptions of what makes us happy, such as having more friends and more money. Detailed in the article is the idea that our early ancestors' struggles against adverse weather and predators have led us to instinctually focus on what is wrong or out of place in order to react with more efficiency, then going onto autopilot when things are going well."

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  1. Happiness by CmdrTaco+(troll) · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is a successful FP.

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    I hope high gas prices are depriving your children, you fucking dumbass.
  2. Eh, I gave up by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm such a black hearted emotionless wreck at this point, looking for happiness is a fruitless endeavor.

    1. Re:Eh, I gave up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Blarg, I was going to suggest a shotgun mouthwash but then I read your username and felt kind of bad.

  3. happiness is overrated by scenestar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    After having been chronically depressed for the past years i found out that happiness is just a balance of the right drugs.

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    1. Re:happiness is overrated by RobinH · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Now, now... anti-depressants don't actually make you happy... they just make the depression subside a bit so you can get moving again and make yourself happy. Taking anti-depressants is like if you have a hole in your boat and you're sinking, the drugs are like pumping out the bilge. It doesn't fix the problem, but it will keep you afloat until you can get to a safe harbour and repair the damage.

      But I'm sure you knew that already... :-)

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    2. Re:happiness is overrated by bleppie · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Um, no. For some of us the drugs plug the hole in the boat. There's a very common attitude, which I seein your post, that antidepressants are only good as a temporary, often last minute, patch up solution. But actually some of us are better off taking them all the time, much like people with other chronic diseases might take meds for the rest of their lives.

      Chronic depression is not something that will go away if you just 'buck up and get over it', 'deal with the problem and move on', 'get to a safe harbour', etc. Often it is a lifetime issue that can be managed with, among other things, medicine.

    3. Re:happiness is overrated by WormholeFiend · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You should look into current studies on the curative effects of psychedelics on depression.

    4. Re:happiness is overrated by node+3 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Now, now... anti-depressants don't actually make you happy...

      They most certainly can (and do). Happiness is a state-of-mind. The state of one's mind is highly dependent on chemicals and drugs.

      It doesn't fix the problem, but it will keep you afloat until you can get to a safe harbour and repair the damage.

      You're thinking of drugs like alcohol and heroine, which make people feel better but also degrade that person's ability to interface with reality, and manage their life.

      Anti-depressants are the exact opposite. Not onl to they make the depressed person normal, but they do so without crippling the person's ability to cope with real-life. In other words, for some people, these drugs do, in fact, "plug the hole".

    5. Re:happiness is overrated by Rycross · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Eh, its more like when you take the pills you can see that the big black blotch is just a small dab of spilled ink on an otherwise perfectly white sheet of paper. I've taken anti-depressants, and they didn't make me happy. They allowed me to get my head under control, and gain some perspective. That, in turn, allowed me to be happy.

  4. Happiness is against human nature.. by brxndxn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No matter where you are or what you acheive, one is never truly happy. To be happy is to be content.. and to be content is to lack the craving to better oneself. And to lack that craving is to lack a fundamental part of 'survival of the fittest.'

    Yes.. It's human nature to be discontent.. and that separates some of us from the apes.

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    1. Re:Happiness is against human nature.. by BishonenAngstMagnet · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You can be truly happy without being fully happy. I am truly happy about many things in life. But I'm not fully happy, as there are aspects of my life (as with everyone else) that are not perfect.

    2. Re:Happiness is against human nature.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Another thing that seperates us from the Apes is our ability to overcome our nature.

    3. Re:Happiness is against human nature.. by nathan+s · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm not exactly sure that "bettering oneself" necessarily has any relation to "survival of the fittest" - many people's idea of "bettering" themselves have led them to early deaths, like some of the great explorers. In terms of sheer survival of the fittest, the person who doesn't stick his neck out too far and manages to safely pass on his genes to the next generation the most times is often [but not always] the fittest, and that has little to do with bettering himself.

    4. Re:Happiness is against human nature.. by UserGoogol · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Bah. You can be content while simultaneously desiring more. Contentment is not to lack the craving to better oneself, but merely the sense that things as they currently are are "okay." Contentment, as I see it, is not a lack of desire for improvement, (which as you say is a somewhat morally dubious state) but merely a lack of discomfort about your current position. Those are distinct entities, as I see it.

      Thus, you can be content with your current state in life while at the same time desire more. I admit it's not neccesarily the most logically consistant position one can hold, but emotions aren't logical. (Although one may apply logic to the proccess of acquiring a maximum emotional state.)

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    5. Re:Happiness is against human nature.. by AstrumPreliator · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes.. It's human nature to be discontent.. and that separates some of us from the apes.
       
      I always thought it was the fact that some of us don't fling poo at eachother that seperated us from the apes... I guess I was mistaken.
       
      ;)

    6. Re:Happiness is against human nature.. by Alpha27 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Who's to say that the apes themselves do not exhibit this trait? They compete with each other, and competition is an effect of dissatisifaction and a wanting to prove something in order to be satisfied. If they were satisfied, do you think they would fight?

      Just my 2 bananas on the subject.

    7. Re:Happiness is against human nature.. by grogdamighty · · Score: 4, Interesting
      From a pure natural selection standpoint, bettering oneself has nothing to do with selection - all that matters is that you reproduce.

      The whole point of natural selection is that you are already the best - that's why you've survived long enough to procreate.

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    8. Re:Happiness is against human nature.. by Parafilmus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It may not serve survival-interest to be happy at rest, but it DOES serve survival-interest to be happy while engaged in useful activity. "Happy" is a reward mechanism. You should feel it while hunting or building or mating or teaching children, or whatever activity benefits self and family.

    9. Re:Happiness is against human nature.. by Brock+Lee · · Score: 2, Insightful

      To be happy is to be content.. and to be content is to lack the craving to better oneself.

      The logic here is flawed. Some people are happy bettering themselves -- learning something new, learning something to greater depth, perfecting a skill, exploring a new place.

      By playing the "A is the same as B is the same as C" game, you've cleverly pulled the wool over your own eyes. Happy now?

    10. Re:Happiness is against human nature.. by Citizen+of+Earth · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Homer: Mr. Burns, you're the richest man I know.
      Mr. Burns: But I'd give it all up for a little more.

    11. Re:Happiness is against human nature.. by ppanon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Unless of course you learn to find happiness in the ability to pursue perfection, in the journey to perfection rather than in perfection itself. Learn to enjoy the moment, even as you pursue your ultimate goals.

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  5. Twins by mysqlrocks · · Score: 4, Insightful

    For happiness levels are probably genetic: identical twins are usually equally bubbly or grumpy.

    This doesn't mean it's genetic. Twins most likely grew up together, right? Couldn't it have something to do with the environment/family instead of genes?

  6. Religion? by Programmerangel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm surprised the article doesn't explore Religion and it's affect on people's happiness.

    1. Re:Religion? by Overdrive_SS · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually Christianity says there is no way to earn your way into heaven. Everyone has sinned and that sin has earned you eternal seperation from God. However, Christ came to earth, lived a perfect life, and then died in your place. He took the punishment instead of making you try to pay for it, which you can't. And now He offers forgiveness for those sins and a relationship with Him if you believe and ask. It is a free gift. You'll still have problems in life, but you'll always have God to take care of them and the hope that one day you'll be with Him forever in heaven.

      As an aside, people have used all kinds of excuses to do horrible things and just because they tried to justify it by saying God said to do it, doesn't mean that God actually said to do it.

    2. Re:Religion? by JanneM · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'm surprised the article doesn't explore Religion and it's affect on people's happiness.

      Probably because religion - just like many other things - are somewhat orthogonal to happiness. Being religious does not make you more or less likely to be happy.

      I dare say it's not what you take an interest in that matters, but that you do take an interest in something that is the important thing. Whether you crusade for an old testament-based judicial system with mandatory stoning for wearing mixed fibers; or campaign for the right to gay sex with donkeys dressed up as nuns in public while smoking pot from a cross-shaped bong really doesn't matter for your happiness just as long as you are passionate about it.

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    3. Re:Religion? by Eil · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Religion doesn't make people happy, it makes people feel safe. (The happiness comes more from the social aspects of religion than from faith itself.)

    4. Re:Religion? by ankarbass · · Score: 2, Funny

      I also offer a free relationship for anyone that wants one. I bet you'll get more email from me than that sandal guy. Furthermore, this relationship is like right here right now and if for some crazy reason you think that's not enough, IN ADDITION, I offer a FREE gift with purchase.

      BTW: Your happiness with each purchase is GUARANTEED or your money will be cheerfully refunded.

      Sheesh you want happiness? I'll give ya happiness, just get out your credit card!!!

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    5. Re:Religion? by TubeSteak · · Score: 2, Insightful
      As an aside, people have used all kinds of excuses to do horrible things and just because they tried to justify it by saying God said to do it, doesn't mean that God actually said to do it.
      Pope Urban II launched the First Crusade in 1095 by saying "Deus le volt!" (God wills it!) as a rallying cry for the people.

      Don't take my word for it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Crusade

      I don't know if he was sitting on the Throne of Peter when he made that statement,
      but since he was the Pope, I think we can take his word for it.

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    6. Re:Religion? by IamLarryboy · · Score: 5, Funny

      A post on slashdot which accuratly portrays the gospel!!!! I do believe I have now seen everything.

    7. Re:Religion? by Bastian · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I remember reading somewhere that Buddhism is the only major religion that has been positively correlated with happiness. Possibly it has something to do with Buddhism being the only major religion (that I can think of) whose sole stated purpose is to make people happier.

    8. Re:Religion? by arose · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Don't Christians have the right to defend themselves when Muslims attack them?
      Depends, but either way not all crusades are alike.
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    9. Re:Religion? by StandardDeviant · · Score: 2, Informative

      They weren't Christian so much as they were ex-Roman, with all the polyglot of faiths that implies. The Franks hardly had a lock-hold on the region. There were attacks by Islamic nations into the region, but they were attacks of territorial ambition rather than faith-based aggression, and occured several hundred years before Urban's 1095 crusade kick-off, which evidence suggests was intended more to unite the bickering Europeans than to do much of anything for the faith as a whole. (So as a result everybody ran around and killed everybody else (even Christian crusaders ... killing other Christians!) for a few hundred years and sweet fuck all got done. Yay for papal infallibility!)

    10. Re:Religion? by Dogtanian · · Score: 2, Interesting

      As stated by two previous ACs, one of the main observations of the Buddha is that all life is suffering.

      That's not necessarily true; I believe the word 'suffering' is a possibly misleading translation of the word 'dukkha'. This is hard to translate, but could possibly be phrased as 'unsatisfactoriness'.

      (I am not a linguistics scholar, nor a Buddhist, so no-one reading this should quote the above in their PhD thesis).

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    11. Re:Religion? by glsunder · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Take a look at christianity without the blinders of organized religion on. Many of the teachings apply to happiness here on earth. Throw away the BS that others have added -- the rituals, the idea that people should suffer, that only bad people are poor, that only bad people are rich, that we should hate certain people, that the world is 6,000 years old, etc.

      What you're left with is basically: forgive people, be kind others, don't dwell on the negative, and enjoy the good things you have. Every one of those increases happiness for both the individual and others around them. Christianity isn't as bad as christians make it.

    12. Re:Religion? by Eli+Gottlieb · · Score: 2, Insightful

      :Sigh:

      The obligatory Buddhism Praising Hour...

      Look, people. The Buddhists are smart, but that's really all they have going for them. Do you really know what all that meditation is? It's THINKING! Nothing more than sitting still and calming the varying stimuli that affect your mind for long enough to apply the existential (Multiple Intelligence's word for philosophical/religious intelligence) intelligence you were born with.

      Siddartha Guatama really was just fortunate to be in a situation (a prince, I remember from History class) where he could take time off from constantly striving for what he THOUGHT would make him happy and think for a good long time (many years) about what REALLY would make him happy. He came up with Buddhism, what are your thoughts?

      You may now stop worshipping the fat Indian guy. It really doesn't matter what religion you are if you want to be happy, just THINK!

      As a starting hint, I've found that the key to happiness in anything is knowing when one's circumstances are GOOD ENOUGH rather than when they are perfect.

  7. Slashdot MOTD by puppetman · · Score: 4, Funny

    Saw a message of the day at the bottom of the slashdot page a few weeks ago:

    "Men don't know what happiness is until they are married, but by then it's too late".

    Good for wedding toasts...

    1. Re:Slashdot MOTD by Citizen+of+Earth · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "Men don't know what happiness is until they are married, but by then it's too late"

      “Happiness isn't something you experience; it's something you remember.”—Oscar Levant

  8. As The Beatles would say by ZakuSage · · Score: 5, Funny

    Happiness is a warm gun.

  9. Happiness is individualised perception by drijen · · Score: 5, Interesting

    For many of my co-workers here in the bible belt, hapiness is letting their worries be "god's" worries. IF thats so for most religious people, i would cynically say that hapiness is letting someone else have repsonsibilty. The article seems to concretrate heavily on the religous "values".

    I look it a different way:

    When i die, i want to fly, sliding on my side at 100 MPH into the pearly gates, wearing a huge smile smile, yelling "WOW! What a ride!".

    I hate for my life to be dull and unispiring - that for me is happiness.

    I wonder if they did a case study on Adrenaline junkies, priests, and people like Linus Torvalds. Only then could i trust the science of happiness :(

    1. Re:Happiness is individualised perception by aaza · · Score: 3, Funny
      "WOW! What a ride!"

      "I wanna do it again!"
      *Runs off to find the end of the queue*

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  10. Happiness is a serious problem by cold+fjord · · Score: 4, Interesting


    Anyone concerned with happiness might want to consider reading Happiness is a Serious Problem by Dennis Prager.

    He devotes an hour a week (called the "Happiness Hour") on his radio program to the question of happiness.

    Agree or disagree, he is thought provoking. His approach is also interesting in that he values clarity over agreement and has callers and guests from across the ideological / political spectrum.

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  11. Nice Guy by mysqlrocks · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Dogs who experience electric shocks that they cannot avoid by their actions simply give up trying. They will passively endure later shocks that they could easily escape.

    Wow, sounds like a really nice guy. Isn't this cruelty to animals? Oh wait, it's for science so it's OK.

  12. Can't be sure, since the article doesn't say... by nathan+s · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...but usually twin studies take this into account, including identical twins who were for one reason or another raised in different families (often as a result of adoption). Researchers are not all stupid; they tend to take these things into account when designing the study.

  13. Soma by Misanthrope · · Score: 2, Insightful
  14. Happiness comes from within by The+Amazing+Fish+Boy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Warning: Wishy-washy bullshit approaching. Proceed with caution.

    Learn that you do not need anything except the biological neccessities for survival. Appreciate the present, but don't be considered with the future. Give up all attachments. Take only what you need to live.

    The fact is, the more you have, the more you want. Do you ever see anyone without a TV lusting after a big screen plasma TV? Do you ever see someone without a computer lusting after the latest AMD processor? They spend time with those they care about, they read things, they think, they learn. Not only can you not buy happiness, buying actively makes you unhappy.

  15. Happiness versus Contentment by GillBates0 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    This article opens up new insight into the common perceptions of what makes us happy, such as having more friends and more money.

    Interesting article...especially given my recent reading on the Hindu/Buddhistic concept of "detachment". These traditions prescribe detachment from wordly/materialistic desires in order to achieve contentment in life.

    In short, anything that you're sufficiently attached to, that can give you enough happiness, can cause you as much pain when taken away. The solution therefore, is to follow a middle path practising detachment from all wordly desires, so as to walk along the middle path - neither be swayed emotionally toward too much towards happiness, nor being overly susceptible to sadness.

    Happiness is a short lived emotion, (often accompanied by a potentially negative emotion of sadness) while contentment with what you have is usually a longer lived state of mind.

    /Not overly religious...just a philosophy I like subscribing to...especially after a recent -ve swing in the state of affairs.

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    1. Re:Happiness versus Contentment by mattjb0010 · · Score: 4, Informative

      In short, anything that you're sufficiently attached to, that can give you enough happiness, can cause you as much pain when taken away. The solution therefore, is to follow a middle path practising detachment from all wordly desires, so as to walk along the middle path - neither be swayed emotionally toward too much towards happiness, nor being overly susceptible to sadness.

      The four noble truths:
      1. Life means suffering.
      2. The origin of suffering is attachment.
      3. The cessation of suffering is attainable.
      4. The path to the cessation of suffering (aka the eightfold way).

    2. Re:Happiness versus Contentment by beesquee · · Score: 5, Interesting

      National Geographic had an article about measuring happiness in cultures using MRI's. They found out of all the people scanned Tibetan monks were by far the happiest people in the world despite living in subpoverty conditions. Make you think those buddhist's are onto something.

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  16. A stable ... by SpaceLifeForm · · Score: 4, Funny
    ... kernel.

    Yep, that's the ticket!

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  17. Wanting what you have by antiquark · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Happiness isn't having what you want, it's wanting what you have.

  18. Happiness != Pleasure by PoignardSanglant · · Score: 2, Informative

    The question "what do you have to do to find happiness?" is a Philosophy question, not something that can be answered through Science.

    Drugs don't really make people happy. Happiness must come from within.

    The Happy life is thought to be one of excellence; now an excellent life requires exertion, and does not consist in amusement. If Eudaimonia, or happiness, is activity in accordance with excellence, it is reasonable that it should be in accordance with the highest excellence; and this will be that of the best thing in us.

    -- Aristotle, "Nichomachean Ethics"

    What I get out of that, is that people are happy when they have a sense of purpose and feel like they're doing "what they need to do". Of course, sometimes that is very bad for everyone else. But think about what happened to that guy from Fight Club, who was working at the convenience store but wanted to be a veterinarian.

  19. Money by dfn5 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They say money can't buy happiness. However true this may be having the bill collectors call day in and day out certainly doesn't contribute to happiness either.

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    1. Re:Money by dgatwood · · Score: 5, Insightful
      One of my coworkers told me about a quote (of unknown origin). It was something to the effect of "The expression that money can't buy happiness is a lie perpetuated by the rich to keep the poor from killing them."

      I'm not sure that's entirely true, but I will say this: While money can't buy happiness, below a certain point, a lack thereof will assuredly buy misery.

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  20. Krusty the Clown Sez by Ranger · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Kids, we're going to the happiest place on earth - Tijuana, Mexico!" 8F24

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  21. Hapiness is simple by Locke2005 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Getting laid on a regular basis sure doesn't hurt... and if that doesn't work, try Prozac!

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  22. Attitude by Bullfish · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Really, happiness is subjective, but it like so many emotions is largely controlled by your attitude. If you're a cynic and prone to expect the worst, you can expect that to colour your outlook. If you think about it (at least here in the western world), most of our problems are transitory in nature. Things you sweated bricks about 10 years ago have little impact to how you feel today. Things that seemed insurmountable change with perspective and distance. It's the in-the-moment gut wrenching that take a lot of us down. If you can keep things in perspective, even your worst problems will not drag you down to the mud. If you can stand your ground and hold your attitude, your sense of self respect will keep you above water.

    Simple perhaps, but the saying goes that you are only as happy as you decide to be

    Emotions by their very nature are transitory.

  23. Monkeys too, you insensitive clod by bubbaD · · Score: 5, Funny
    I always thought it was the fact that some of us don't fling poo at eachother that seperated us from the apes...


    You must be new here!
  24. Going to Church != Knowing God != Believing in God by heldlikesound · · Score: 4, Interesting

    God cannot give us a happiness and peace apart from Himself, because it is not there. There is no such thing.

    C.S. Lewis

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  25. The senses of course by Twinbee · · Score: 2, Insightful

    To find a complete science of happiness, we'd need to find out a master formula to create/rate good music, a formula for art, one for thought and games (sport, console or otherwise), and the various other senses (touch, smell, taste).

    Those are the fundamentals.

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  26. Exercise! by dentar · · Score: 3, Informative

    Plenty of exercise works. Seriously. Exercise cures depression. It's really that simple!

    (This doesn't apply to people with screwed-up brain chemistry.)

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  27. I remember by Dog135 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Happiness is remembering our childhoods entire.
    It is possible; I have done it.

    I never forgot my childhood. I remember crawling around, I remember breast feeding, (somethings I wish I could forget) and I even remember being born. (as well as an undeterminable duration of being inside my mom)

    The reason, I'm sure, has part to do with the fact I was born a full month late, and part to do with the fact that I'm both autistic (I clearly remember visual things very well) and I have ADD. (I tend to repeat things in my mind over and over)

    I must say, the memories themselves have never brought me happiness. What makes me happy is improving myself by learning new things and new skills. And there will always be an abundance of things for me to learn. If I didn't have to worry about money, I'd be happy my whole life. This past year on paid leave, then unemployment has been wonderful, not counting the occasional meeting I had to go to.

    Work, and by association, money, are the root of unhappiness. (esp. working at a state job)
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  28. Cause and effect by ewg · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Serious question: how do they sort out cause and effect? They observed a correlation between happiness and social interaction; but which is which?

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  29. Re:Simple by aaqubed · · Score: 3, Funny
    Work is slavery

    No...FREEDOM is slavery!

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  30. A post that begins "Actually Christianity says..." by Errandboy+of+Doom · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...is bound to be wrong.

    Catholicism on Happiness:

    "Man has one ultimate purpose of existence: eternal happiness in a future life. But man also has a twofold proximate purpose: to earn his title to eternal happiness, and to attain to a measure of temporal happiness consistent with the prior proximate purpose."

    This is from "State and Church," in New Advent's Catholic Encyclopedia.

  31. Re:Simple by wattersa · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Unfortunately, that is exactly the mindset that credit card companies and advertisers _want_ you to take, because you spend more. In reality, you should think about the future, save for a rainy day, work in a field you enjoy, and party on weekends.

  32. Re:Money? by Himring · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It doesn't buy everything in life, but what it don't buy I don't like....

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  33. Maslow's Pyramid by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 3, Insightful

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's_Pyramid

    Physiological, Safety, Love/Belonging, Esteem, Actualization.

    Fulfill these needs and you'll find happiness. (An interesting thought is that this view does not oppose christianity at all, they seem to fit very well)

    A personal observation upon myself is that the darkest times of my life were the ones where none (or only one) of these needs were fulfilled. If I didn't believe in God, i would surely have killed myself - so maybe Maslow's pyramid could also be used as an indicator for potential suicides. Just a thought.

  34. Slightly innacurate by Prien715 · · Score: 4, Informative

    As a somewhat practicing Buddhist, I always cringe when someone says "life means suffering (dukkha)" when Sanskrit word "dukkha" means so much more. The translation "life is unsatisfactory" is perhaps more accurate. Dissatisfaction is not just caused by suffering (i.e. the personal experience of loss) but also by the failures of expectations to be met and the innate mature of our mind -- especially knowledge of our own mortality.

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  35. For me.... by Himring · · Score: 2, Insightful

    For me, you cannot be happy until you have been horribly unhappy first.

    I am now approaching the second year of my divorce. My marital breakup was equivalent to the asteroid that ended the dinosaurs. I lost massive weight before working out and putting back on muscle. I learned to jog and became a better father. I read book after book on relationships, divorce, psychology and religion and finally came to the conclusion that most, if not all, of my unhappiness in life came from the fact of trying to control the free will of others. I happened upon a theory I call "reality philosophy." I mainly base this on Robert Ringer who points out in his theory of reality:

    Reality isn't what you hope it would be. It isn't what it even appears to be, but with careful investigation it is what it is. You either go with it and benefit from it or fight it and suffer.

    I have learned to let go and stop trying to control things. I think Fight Club says it best when Tyler tells the narrator in the car as he's trying to keep it between the lines, "look at you! you're pathetic! just let it go...." Truly, it isn't until we've lost everything that we are free to do anything. I am a living example of this.

    Looking back, if anything made me a man it was my divorce. I went through a crash course of the legal system, the hell of financial trauma, work stress, single-fatherhood, on and on. Divorce hits you on every level imaginable. But I was determined to survive and thrive. I now am in the third basketball season as a YMCA children's coach. I have found one of the most therapuetic things is to volunteer my time for something like this. The kids are my doctors, counselors as I watch them grow, learn and each season as I've coached basketball, soccer, etc. I find the practices and the games are the highlights of my life. I am better at my job, my appearance, my relationships, name it. I wouldn't trade my divorce for anything because I never knew that I wasn't even happy before it.

    I am now leaner and wiser than ever and am a far better person to be around. I dove into religion and books as I said. Here are some qoutes I carried in my pocket for a solid year and committed to memory. Each chance I got -- if waiting somewhere with nothing to do for example -- I would get them out and go over them:

    Attitudes are more important than facts. -Karl Menninger

    Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your mind in Christ Jesus. -Philippians 4:6-7

    Stand up to an obstacle. Just stand up to it, that's all, and don't give way under it, and it will finally break. You will break it. Something has to break, and it won't be you, it will be the obstacle. -Peale

    Do not take the attitude that you are in a situation in which nobody has ever been before. There is no such situation. -Peale

    People have overcome every conceivable difficult situation. -Peale

    A clean engine always delivers power. -Peale

    Never tell me the odds. -Hans Solo

    A mind free of negatives will always produce positives. -Peale

    There is no spoon. -Peale

    Do the thing you fear and the death of fear is certain. -Emerson

    If you had faith... nothing would be impossible. -Matthew 17:20

    Throw your heart over the bar and your body will follow. -Peale

    The rough is only mental. -Peale

    There is a time when we must decide and act and never look back. -Phillips

    If a man will devote his time to securing facts in an impartial, objective way, his worries will usually evaporate in the light of knowledge. -Hawkes

    When worrying about something always ask two questions: 1. What am I worrying about? 2. What can I do about it? -Litchfie

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  36. Re:Make up your mind people. by benjamindees · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They had that meeting. Half of them decided to try for consistency and the other half decided to go for completeness. The completeness half is doing great, but makes absolutely no sense. And the consistency half gave up and became atheists.

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    "I assumed blithely that there were no elves out there in the darkness"
  37. Bah! by benjamindees · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Everybody knows that Catholics aren't Christian!

    Seriously, though, you're right the Catholic church sold golden tickets into heaven for a long time. But it's not like that had anything to do with Jesus or anything.

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    "I assumed blithely that there were no elves out there in the darkness"
  38. What do you have to do to achieve happiness? by the0ther · · Score: 2, Funny

    coke. duh. easier than wires into your cerebellum, more effective than prozac.

  39. Psychedelic Drugs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I am curious as to what people have experienced with psychedelic drugs. I have personally done mushrooms and lsd, and both changed my perspective on life for the better. I wasn't happier, but I was less anxious and more willing to try more things. Going out wasn't such a chore. I've read in many places about shamans as the original psychologists of ancient culture and while their practices were risky, I think they might have had more success than many modern day psychologists. I recommend research into this for anyone who is interested.
    I'm currently in therapy and I don't do any drugs any more, but I don't discount what I've "learned" from my drug use. Some day, I'll try mushrooms again and see if I can't open my mind in places where I'm currently repressed. I think that those repressed areas represent a lot of pain for me and I can't get there normally, but with the help of these drugs and a qualified therapist I hope to explore these areas and unlock them for my every day life.
    Reply if you have had any experience in this area, I would be very interested in hearing your response.

    1. Re:Psychedelic Drugs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Salvia Divinorum.

      It is an amazing experience.

      I'm non-religious, so I take the experience as a real mind-job as opposed to something spiritual or whatever. However, it permits you enough of a disconnect that you can look at yourself from a different angle when you come back to reality.

  40. Buddhism seems to have a clue by anotherzeb · · Score: 2, Interesting

    According to scientific research posted here at the BBC website, the Buddhists faith looks as though it might have something going for it. The research says that brain scans show that Buddhists are the happiest people. There is some stuff on meditation helping to ease the symptoms of depression here

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  41. Re:Going to Church != Knowing God != Believing in by CrazyJim1 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Before I knew God I had a fear of death from like when I was 6 years old. Before I knew everyone died, I thought people just got old. I wanted to be content to just live forever playing newer and better video games. When I learned about death, my whole priorities changed. I felt that I had to live more for the moment and get as much in this life as possible so I don't miss anything.

    People told me God exists and I went to a Christian Church, but it was hard for me to grasp and I never understood it well. My faith wasn't so good, then in 2003 God spoke to me,"Good News", and I recieved a Good News bible soon after. When I found out God exists for a fact, Jesus is Lord. I also learned that he promises eternal life. I didn't go looking for a way to avoid death and thusly believed in Christianity because it was the only possible answer. I found out God exists for a fact then I realized he promises eternal life!


    You can speak for yourself and say that God doesn't make you happy. But for me knowing death isn't the end of things makes me a very happy person.

  42. Happiness is... by Hosiah · · Score: 2, Insightful
    when you learn to reject the popular crowd's definition of happiness and just do what works for you.

    For me, happiness doesn't come from what I can get, only from what I can do.

  43. Re:Paradox by gstoddart · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Happiness itself is a philisophical question as to whether or not it exists/is attainable. I saw somebody post something about the 4 noble truth's, hey thats a good start. Pascal uses God but really you can use any silly old thing you decide to but faith in. Whether it be your friends and loved ones or a favorite toy or blanket. Anything you trust enough can be a source of happiness (IMHappyOpinion).

    Well, in many ways, the Four Noble Truths aren't really something you are supposed to have faith in. Faith, fundamentally, is secondary to logically reasoning and deciding for yourself the teachings are accurate.

    I guess the only article of 'faith' in Buddhism is that you agree with the observations about suffering and its causes, and think the solutions make sense. It's a moral and metaphysical outlook, but it's not something you take on faith.

    At its simplest, Buddhism is about compassion and quelling the noisy mind. Either it resonates with you and makes sense, or you're free to pick or ignore anything that works for you -- or, choose to ignore it altogether.

    As for Pascal ...
    You cannot be a sceptic or a Platonist without stifling nature, you cannot be a dogmatist without turning your back on reason.

    Buddhism offers a middle path. Rational exploration of the world around you, as well as a guides for behaviour in order not to increase suffering and to reach enlightenment. It also completely incorporates gods and ghosts and everything else in between -- to the best of my knowledge, skepticism about those is a personal choice.

    Unlike fundamentalist Christians, for example, who dogmatically insist the world was created exactly according to the bible, Buddhists accept that some of the body of literature is intended to be metaphorical in nature. And believe that whatever the science tells you is what really happened.

    Now, yes, an eager new monk is going to have a religious aspect, but practising Buddhism doesn't actually require faith or dogma.

    If you're more interested, read some Pema Chodron, Thicht Nhat Han, or something from the Dalai Lama. It's quite accessible -- not full of formal/religious Buddhism, just useful life stuff.

    At least, that's one Westerner's limited perspective. =)

    Cheers
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  44. Happiness = d/dt (well being) by CraigV · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The article was rather interesting, but didn't discuss my favorite theory:
    Happiness is often thought of being connected to one's health or economic well being, but I have considered it more connected with the rate of change of one's well being. A poor or unhealthy person can be happy if things look like they are getting better; a rich or healthy person can be unhappy if things are getting worse.

  45. True road to happiness by starling · · Score: 2, Funny

    1. RTFA
    2. ???
    3. Prof^wHappiness

  46. Re:Going to Church != Knowing God != Believing in by Creepy+Crawler · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ---Before I knew God I had a fear of death from like when I was 6 years old. Before I knew everyone died, I thought people just got old.

    Actually, I remember when my great-grandmother died. I was 2 and 1/2 and a "crazy toddler". Yet, with no pictures and no telling what happened, I can vividly describe her, her clothes, the room, the way leading to her room (in the hospital), and countless other facts. I remember holding her hand, and her skin was like tissue paper. My parents (and grandparent there, her mother) thought I was going to really hurt her. I could speak some, but there was no speaking necessary.

    There was compassion. I knew she was going to die, and die she did. She passed the next day, after seeing me. She knew of nobody in the room, but she recognized me as her baby boy.

    I never had a fear of death, even being close to those who were near. It's not sad or despairing. It's peaceful, tranquil.. melancholy. I feel sad for those who do think terrible and dredging thoughts with somebody near death.

    ---I wanted to be content to just live forever playing newer and better video games. When I learned about death, my whole priorities changed. I felt that I had to live more for the moment and get as much in this life as possible so I don't miss anything.

    What is there to learn? You die. Maybe now, maybe later, but you WILL die. Nothing your parents/teachers/church leaders can tell you and give you an "informed view". Some believe that you only have 1 chance, and then you go to an absolute good or bad place. I dont like that. I wish to better myself and share compassion to others, but I might take many lives to do that. If, somehow, I attain enlightenment here now, I wont have to live again. Eternal nothingness will be freedom, or is that eternal everythingness?

    ---People told me God exists and I went to a Christian Church, but it was hard for me to grasp and I never understood it well. My faith wasn't so good, then in 2003 God spoke to me,"Good News", and I recieved a Good News bible soon after. When I found out God exists for a fact, Jesus is Lord.

    If you dont mind, what was the fact that God exists (seriously, not from a flaming point of view). I have personally witnessed 'concidences' that fell together all to well. Point in being is thus: After my grandmother died (from cancer), later on came my mothers birthday. She was almost to tears remembering how my grandmother would always send her a card, get her some thoughtful present, and call her. At the store (with my sister), she went and bought a lottery ticket (not 5, 10, or 50, just 1 single ticket). As she scratched it, she won 20$. Looking underneath the ticket, at the local paper, it had the small headline, "grandmother gives after death".

    That day was my mothers birthday (when that happened). Take it as you wish.

    ---I also learned that he promises eternal life. I didn't go looking for a way to avoid death and thusly believed in Christianity because it was the only possible answer. I found out God exists for a fact then I realized he promises eternal life!

    Eternal anything sounds like fun after the first 100 million years, but after that sounds like an "amusement park prison". I would rather, for eternity, not exist, or blend my consciousness with the universe. For many people, they want a pretty place to call good (heaven). The other absolute is Hell. Once you in either, you're stuck there for ever. Even the idea of an absolute good or bad seems... bad. Does your sect of Christanity allow do-overs, or are you condemned to wherever you are "judged" to go?

    ---You can speak for yourself and say that God doesn't make you happy. But for me knowing death isn't the end of things makes me a very happy person.

    After reading much of the Bible, and finding I disagree with the very conduct of "God", I determined that he wasnt honorable. Jesus, on the other hand, was honorable. Soddom and Gomorrah could have been easily dealt with, if "God" was to show the evil to each person there. No viol

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  47. Re:heal thyself by BKX · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While I agree with you, your argument lacks cohesion. Did you forget a paragraph going from a "myriad [of] consequential effects of the various substances you ... take in" to "any [drug] dependency ... is an indicator that something deeper is going wrong"? NB: I am not trying to be an ass.

    These studies to which you refer are probably the myriad of studies showing how bad the crap added to our food is. Drugs have nothing (or little, more often maybe) to do with it. Most people suffering from depression (This is NOT a joke!) can be done with it in about two weeks by eliminated high-fructose corn syrup (HFCS) from their diet. This usually means not drinking pop and buying the expensive condiments. Many more will recover by also eliminating white sugar. This is more difficult but possible. If you like candy, you will need to learn to make your own from natural unrefined sweeteners such as honey, maple syrup (the real kind, not "maple-flavored syrup". You'll pay big bucks for it but it is worth every penny), and stevia for those that want it calorie free. The other big cause of depression in our food and beverages is artificial sweeteners, including but not limited to aspartame, saccharin and sucralose. These are actually worse than sugar and HFCS and will cause you to GAIN WEIGHT if you use too much. If you ditch those sweeteners entirely, you WILL lose weight and probably get over depression.

    Remember, the only reason you don't know how bad this stuff is is because depressed people will consume more of it. Like the companies that sell this shit want you eating less. That's why they pay megabucks to develop artificial sweeteners that make you fat. You'll buy more of it. NB: HFCS is also artificial. It is a chemical cocktail produced from corn. Sucralose (Splenda) is also a chemical, created from corn using petroleum.

  48. That's what they want you to believe... by Steeltoe · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...because you always give what you have.

    The unhappy people can't stand happy people. So if you're unhappy, you will more likely seek depressing and complaining company, than cheerful, vibrant and active people. That doesn't mean they don't exist, you just shut everything positive away, so you can live what you think you are right now. Depression leads to dullness and stagnation, and is also fueled by it, while the way to come out of it is to become active and seek out good company/do good things for others etc. It's really very simple! Yet, when you're stuck with your unhappiness, it seems so hard. You think that 'you' are unhappy, so you stay there longer. We know what to do, yet, we find so many excuses for not doing it. This is mainly because we have been trained to do so, and have perfected its mastery very well. The mind is pretty sneaky actually!

    Don't fall for the truth of unhappy people about what is our true nature. Have you seen a child? It is never depressed. A child cannot be depressed. It learns that behaviour from the environment, which it eagerly emulates, and when put under stress for a long time. The younger the child, the more happiness, creativity, laughter, playfullness, innocense and all the other good qualities.

    So we need to get rid of our stress and negative patterns that lets us be stuck with a worldview that dictates we shouldn't be 'too happy'. That is truly an art, and then we will discover WHO WE TRULY ARE.

    'Old trite arguments'? There's no such thing. It depends on the listener!

    Are you your stress?

  49. happiness is simple by sl4shd0rk · · Score: 2, Insightful

    set realistic boundaries with people, and stick to them.
    don't involve yourself with unhealthy social behaviour.
    set aside time to yourself everyday.
    appreciate what you have, not what you have not.

    flying muppet yoda would say:
              simple things are they, improve life they will.

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  50. Buddhism by cyanide · · Score: 2, Interesting
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    Ven. Jhanrato
  51. Happiness is... by star_aas · · Score: 2, Funny

    a C++ compiler and a cup of coffee.

  52. Re:Having a HUGE Dick ... by Zone-MR · · Score: 3, Funny

    Whenever life gets you down
    Keeps you wearing a frown
    And the gravy train has left you behind
    And when you're all out of hope
    Down at the end of your rope
    And nobody's there to throw you a line

    If you ever get so low that you don't know which way to go
    Come on and take a walk in my shoes
    Never worry bout a thing
    Got the world on a string
    Cus I've got the cure for all of my blues (all of his blues)

    I take a look at my enormous penis
    And my troubles start a-meltin' away
    I take a look at my enormous penis
    And the happy times are coming to stay

    I got a sing and a dance when I glance in my pants
    And the feeling's like a sunshiney day
    I take a look at my enormous pe-e-e-nis
    And everything is goin' my way

    (whistling)

    (ad lib solo)

    PE-E-NIS

    (end ad lib solo)

    Everybody
    I take a look at my enormous penis
    And my troubles start a-meltin' away
    I take a look at my enormous penis
    And the happy times are coming to stay

    I got great big amounts in the place where it counts
    And the feeling's like a sunshiney day
    I take a look at my enormous penis
    And everything is goin' my way (my trouser monster)
    Everything is going' my way (my meat is murder)
    Everything is goin' my way (size doesn't matter)
    Everything is goin' my waaaaaay
    yummmm

    -- Enormous Penis, Da Vinci's Notebook

  53. Happiness, Logically by d1zzvifiz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you search for happiness in the external world, you'll never find it. Because, logically, happiness comes from the mind itself. If you consider the rich, the famous, and even, the successful, they aren't necessarily happy because happiness doesn't depend on external things. I think if more people realized this truly, there would be less focus on materialism, and *more* peace in the world. As far as finding happiness through drugs... the brain is not the mind. It's related to the mind and it *can* affect the mind. How we feel is determined by what we believe in, not by our current predicament.

    Buy my tapes!

  54. Re:heal thyself by John+Courtland · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I like your post, but I'm pretty sure Sucralose is chlorinated sucrose molecule. At least, that is what the company that produces it says. Here are some links:
    http://www.holisticmed.com/splenda/ http://www.mercola.com/2000/dec/3/sucralose_danger s.htm# http://www.ific.org/publications/brochures/sucralo sebroch.cfm http://www.sucralose.org/facts.html

    Please note I wasn't specifically looking for pros vs cons of the shit. I personally hate it, I can taste when it's in my food, and I have a sneaking suspicion it wrecked my digestive system. However, I don't know all there is to know about it so I really can't point fingers, but I can stop, and have stopped, eating it.

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  55. Flow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    For me, _Flow: The Psychology Of Optimal Experience_ by Mihaly Csiksczentmihalyi defines happiness. I'm happiest when I'm actively engaged in an activity that is neither so difficult that it's frustrating nor so easy that it's boring. If I'm mentally and psychologically engaged in doing something that's near the limits of my abilities, so that success is possible but not guaranteed, then life is good.

  56. Re:Insightful no. Swallowing the kool aid - yes. by crazyphilman · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You know what I find ironic? There's an actual story in the gospels that contradicts this guy's whole script about original sin and redemption. Here we go (I'm paraphrasing):

    A rich kid goes up to Jesus and asks, "How does one win entry into the kingdom of heaven?"

    Jesus replies "Follow the commandments."

    The kid says "Is that all there is to it?"

    Jesus says, "Well, if you want to be perfect, give your money to the poor and follow me as a disciple."

    The kid went away, saddened at this. Apparently he didn't want to give up his money.

    Jesus said as the kid walked away, "It is harder for a rich man to enter heaven than for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle."

    So, there you have it. If you want to get into heaven, obey the commandments. Nothing about swearing allegiance to Jesus, nothing about original sin, nothing about anything but "be nice to each other". If you want to be "perfect", follow Jesus and preach the Word, but he never said you HAD to.

    I think Christians tend to forget that JESUS WAS A JEW, so he believed in Jewish rules. He even said, "I am not the end of the law but the fulfillment of it".

    What happened was, over the past couple of thousand years, the Roman Catholic Church rearranged Jesus' principles in their dogma to solidify their power. It's pretty hard to threaten people if all they have to do to get into heaven is be nice to others. If a priest has to utter some magic words over your deathbed, though... Well, there ya go! Instant power.

    My .02...

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  57. Conan The Barbarian knew the secret... by smithmc · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Conan! What is best in life?"

    "To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women!"

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  58. Wrong angle. by Shotgun · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Misery makes people self-obsessed and inactive.

    My experience is the exact opposite. Self-obsession and inactivity make people miserable. And it IS a positive feedback loop.

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    Aah, change is good. -- Rafiki
    Yeah, but it ain't easy. -- Simba
  59. Re:heal thyself by Maggott · · Score: 2, Insightful

    To my medical knowledge, what you eat can have a significant effect on your mood, but it's not the only cause, or even necessarily the most common one. Refind sugars can have a depressant effect by leading to low blood sugar. The body shoots out insulin to deal with the sudden sugar spike, but since the spike is very short you're left with a ton of insulin that prevents you from maintaining a sufficient supply until it can be cleared out.

    But even if you're just talking physical causes, there are others which can have the same effect--lack of sleep, exercise, and all that other "Health" stuff. Most people don't mentally link their state of mind with their state of body, because it's counterintuitive--most people think of their emotions, their thoughts, and their body as being distinct. They are not. That's why anti-depressants work in the first place. While they may ultimately be a band-aid for the effects of a persistant problem, we wear band-aids for a reason. Often the causes of depression are too difficult to ferret out, so we remove it's effects instead.

    So, in short, you're right that sugar can affect mood but sugar isn't the whole story.

  60. Re:heal thyself by BKX · · Score: 2, Informative
    Maybe you should stop thinking of yourself as an enlightened intelligent human and realize that you are an animal with certain needs and requirements. Science knows for a fact that a lack of vitamins and minerals will cause specific physiological and psychological disorders. As will too much of certain vitamins and minerals. Why, then, is it so unbeleivable that chemicals artificially made in a lab would also cause these disorders? Especially when you consume pounds a week. Look at Mexico. Very few people use any artificial sweeteners. HFCS is practically illegal (giant taxes make it cost prohibitive). Almost noone in Mexico has depression. Very few are fat. Coincidence? I doubt it. (Even the fat thing. Mexicans consume around 3500 calories per day. We consume roughly 4000 per day. That's not a big enough difference to account for the obesity rates.)

    As far as the low Slashdot ID, are you jealous, AC?