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Creating Live Linux Distributions For Disasters

phaedo00 writes "The folks over at Ars Technica have an article up about Hannibal's experience volunteering in relief efforts and how a custom built Linux distribution can help people solve social and disaster related problems without costing an arm and a leg. From the article: 'I spent the two weeks after Katrina struck working with volunteers in Lake Charles, Louisiana and across the Internet to build, maintain, and upgrade such labs in two of southwest Louisiana's largest Red Cross shelters. The present article is a short introduction to one of the most important categories of tools to emerge from the efforts of myself and others to meet the shelters' need for free, zero-maintenance, bulletproof, Internet-connected computers: the shelter lab LiveCD build.'" Article partially paid-only.

111 comments

  1. I can just see it coming... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A four-colored flag sinking in the flooding waters, and the migthy penguin swimming skilfully around and saving people...

    1. Re:I can just see it coming... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, that's pretty funny, Napoleon.

  2. Re:Get some PRIORITIES!!!! by Slashdot_Gandhi · · Score: 0, Offtopic



    If Iraq can be responsible for 911 then Linux can be used for disaster management (instead of FEMA).

  3. Renders the computer bulletproof? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The disks are made out of kevlar and you cover the computer with them?

  4. Re:Get some PRIORITIES!!!! by CypherXero · · Score: 0

    First, they're trying to HELP the people in these situations, and second, I don't know if you know this or not, but New Orleans is pretty much dry, and there's no looting going on right now.

    Idiot.

  5. Browser Incompatibilites by Kevin108 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Has FEMA updated their site to be accesible through non-IE browsers?

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    1. Re:Browser Incompatibilites by terpl · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, which is why a Windows LiveCD option is included.

    2. Re:Browser Incompatibilites by Derek+Pomery · · Score: 2

      Supposedly you can spoof your way through the application with a UA change.
      I imagine that could be added to the live CD.

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    3. Re:Browser Incompatibilites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The FEMA.gov site looks fine in my Firefox.

  6. No, the PDF version is paid-only. by NNKK · · Score: 4, Informative

    Like all Ars Technica articles, the full article is viewable on the website for free, and paid members can download it in a PDF form.

    1. Re:No, the PDF version is paid-only. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Strange, I'd pay for the opposite--to be able to read it in HTML and not have to deal with PDF. To each his own I guess.

    2. Re:No, the PDF version is paid-only. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They (the Slashdot editors) know that, they just think if they put that little snark at the end of every Ars Technica link, it will somehow, someday convince them of the error of their ways, and thus they will suddenly turn around and release all their content for FREE ... free as the wind blows ...

    3. Re:No, the PDF version is paid-only. by ArsEric · · Score: 2, Informative

      All of our content is free. The PDF version is a benefit for Premier subscribers.

  7. True Biloxi Stories by ndansmith · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I may be heading down to Biloxi Mississippi in the next few weeks to help coordinate the computers in a relief office and offer my repair/recovery skills. One of my most important tools down there will be LiveCD/USBs of Slax, Ubuntu, etc. It will allow for some recovery but mostly establishing a quick network with free software in the wake of many computers being damaged/destroyed by flood.

  8. Personal livecd by GieltjE · · Score: 3, Informative

    http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_build_a_LiveCD_from_s cratch Check this howto I made for making your own personal livecd from A gentoo install which is highly maintainable.

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  9. Ultimate Boot CD by spoonyfork · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ is worth checking out if you haven't had the pleasure already.

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  10. Disaster Recovery LiveCDs by Eberlin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If nothing else, I've got a recent (if not latest) version of Knoppix and the latest Ubuntu LiveCD, which pretty much covers most of my needs in a disaster...whether it's an actual need for a bootable machine for internet access and word processing...or actually getting information out of a HDD when the underlying OS got borked one way or another.

    The article goes on to feature the other quickfix distros including DamnSmallLinux and the LTSP to get a bunch of networked PCs up and running quickly.

    In a disaster, I must say that content filtering (and possibly time management) aren't my priorities but I guess to keep some sense and order on things, they're needed. However, something to boot with, something to get networking with, something to type something with, and something to save information to would make up my computing needs when some disaster hits.

    1. Re:Disaster Recovery LiveCDs by MyHair · · Score: 1

      However, something to boot with, something to get networking with, something to type something with, and something to save information to would make up my computing needs when some disaster hits.

      I'm thinking network and printer drivers are going to be the gotchas here. And maybe video drivers, although it's been a while since I haven't been able to get at least a 640x480 KNOPPIX X.

      Actually this highlights the need for open hardware standards.

    2. Re:Disaster Recovery LiveCDs by LDoggg_ · · Score: 1

      >>I'm thinking network and printer drivers are going to be the gotchas

      Pretty small gotchas these days. You'd be suprised how much thin client hardware is autodected under LTSP. It has come a very long way.

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    3. Re:Disaster Recovery LiveCDs by MyHair · · Score: 2

      Come to think of it, my scope of late is farily narrow...mostly KNOPPIX 3.7 (yeah, need to update) on work PCs not recognizing the Broadcom Xtreme gigabit adapter.

      On the other hand, part of my poorly-made point is that new hardware keeps coming out and needing new drivers, so a disaster LiveCD is going to have to keep being updated to avoid going stale. Usually you want your disaster stuff to be unperishable.

  11. online registration in an time of disaster by G4from128k · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If the phones/broadband are down, how do people re-install legal copies of software? Laptops and even PCs can run on emergency power, but without internet, the users can't recover if they must re-install software.

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    1. Re:online registration in an time of disaster by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would their software be gone? If your computer was underwater, it likely doesn't work and smells like poo. If it does work, why would leaving it allone for a few weeks make all the software need to be re-authenticated?

      For the article's purpose, it makes sense -- donated computer with no HD or who's HD shouldn't be touched -- in either case you're not going to be installing big software with authentication schemes.

    2. Re:online registration in an time of disaster by temojen · · Score: 1
      the users can't recover if they must re-install software.

      Hence the desire to use GPL'd or other Open Source Software. No such hassles happen when there's no use restrictions or registration.

    3. Re:online registration in an time of disaster by TylerL82 · · Score: 1

      This is exactly why almost all software that requires activation has a pre-activation grace period of some sort.

  12. wtf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    1. Linux cannot save a city.
    2. Linux cannot restore people's lives.
    3. Linux cannot drain the city under water.
    4. Linux cannot build homes or buildings.
    5. Linux cannot bring your love one back to life.

    Stop trying to fix everything with Linux it's just another OS. It won't fix anything it would just help along the way. Nobody really cares if it runs Linux or Windows 3.1. I think most people would rather care to contact there families instead of worrying what's running it.

    1. Re:wtf by terpl · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There seems to be a misconception that this project has something do with OS wars. It doesn't. There is a perfectly good Windows option provided on page 3 of the article. Of course any Windows option requires the requisite licensing, but that dooes not preclude someone from using a Windows LiveCD. Don't turn our relief efforts into a pissing match. It's not appropriate and completely irrelevant.

    2. Re:wtf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yet another example of the ignorance the surrounds the problem.

    3. Re:wtf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Linux is a tool, just like a shovel or a hammer.
      People need and want to communicate after any disaster.
      The internet is (no sh1t!) a good way to obtain and exhange information, and
      since there will be more disasters we should learn from this one.
      "helping along the way" is important.

    4. Re:wtf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm also assuming that in such an emergency, Windows licensing is the least of their concerns.

    5. Re:wtf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What are you saying? Looting is looting, whether it be taking a plasma-screen tv from a store, or stealing a copy of Windows XP, there is no moral difference. Just hope you aren't shot on sight!

  13. Needs to be Updated! by DnemoniX · · Score: 4, Informative

    The wiki articles on how to do this with Gentoo haven't been updated in well over a year. A large amount of the information is no longer valid. I actively work on development of a Forensic and Network Analysis Live CD based off of Gentoo. For the best advise on how to really get going with this, look into Catalyst and make sure you emerge it with the documentation. It will walk you through the basics. If anyone wants a link to my development page drop me an e-mail and I'll be happy to point the way. I'd simply post it but I doubt the server would take the beating very well.

    e-mail: paul.kessler@gmail.com

    1. Re:Needs to be Updated! by Rolo+Tomasi · · Score: 1

      Use Coral Cache then.

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    2. Re:Needs to be Updated! by ccalculus · · Score: 1

      As another post says, use a coral link. Just add .nyud.net:8090 to the URL.
      So if you have an URL like this http://stardust.jpl.nasa.gov/photo/aerogel.html coral link would be http://stardust.jpl.nasa.gov.nyud.net:8090/photo/a erogel.html

    3. Re:Needs to be Updated! by GieltjE · · Score: 1

      This is still continuesly being updated, I do not know where you get this false information, but this is a much better alternative then catalyst. Since it is just a dir you can chroot in it is much better maintainable!

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    4. Re:Needs to be Updated! by DnemoniX · · Score: 1

      False information? Hardly! I use Catalyst every day. The release engineers at Gentoo use Catalyst. The Gentoo Power PC developers use Catalyst. Everyone that does production work for Gentoo uses Catalyst. People, it seriously takes all the hard work out of making a Live CD, how hard is that to understand. Try reading the instructions that come with the release. If you emerge it with the docs you get extremely up to date and step by step instructions for every switch in the spec files. If that isn't enough, there is an entire gentoo-catalyst mailing list for you to post your questions on, and they get answered usually in the same day by the guys who develop it.

    5. Re:Needs to be Updated! by GieltjE · · Score: 1

      I do not use catalyst because it recompiles everything whenever you need a new build. I just run a script which makes a bootable version of the dir in approx 30min.

      I can just chroot into the dir and make everything fit exactly my needs, not those by some system.

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    6. Re:Needs to be Updated! by DnemoniX · · Score: 1

      Maybe you should read the instructions, I perform builds all day long making minor changes here and there. The only recompiling that happens is if I add another package to get emerged in. Other than that I recompile my kernel by choice, but it is not a rule. Catalyst also easily supports distcc and it doesn't even need to be run under Gentoo. It runs just fine under Fedora or just about anything else for that matter. You just need to actually understand how it works. Also any of those "changes" you need to make, in Catalyst you just automate the process in your fsscript. It's frighteningly simple.

  14. Disaster recovery / FEMA website by QuaintRealist · · Score: 5, Informative

    Slax 5.0.6 KillBill will run Internet Explorer 4.0, and might run later versions as well, under wine. You can use this to access the FEMA application for benefits on the web without having to run Windows itself, and Slax runs well on older machines (runs acceptably on my Pentium-II with 128mb ram). In addition, it fits on an easily pocketable 210mb minidisk.

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    1. Re:Disaster recovery / FEMA website by ndansmith · · Score: 2

      I ended up choosing Kill Bill so that I could get some essential Windows apps running for people, but I didn't even think of the FEMA IE issue. I swore I would never type this but, what the heck:
      MOD PARENT UP!!!

    2. Re:Disaster recovery / FEMA website by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I ended up choosing Kill Bill so that I could get some essential Windows apps running for people, but I didn't even think of the FEMA IE issue. I swore I would never type this but, what the heck:
      MOD PARENT UP!!!


      No, mod it down. Here's why:

      1.) The FEMA site "requires" IE 6. IE 4 wouldn't work.

      2.) The FEMA site works just fine with Mozilla Firefox if you change how Firefox reports its useragent string. Don't even need an extention - you can do it well enough to meet FEMA's "needs" by changing a couple items in about:config.

      3.) Opera does the same thing as Firefox, but by default. It is also available for Linux.

      How do I know? Because I live in Lake Charles and had to stay out of town for a week, and applied for FEMA assistance on my girlfriend's Mac using Firefox.

      ~Garrett Guillotte

  15. Apache, Samba, Wireless, USB, Map Software by billstewart · · Score: 3, Interesting
    It's really important in environments like that to have a web server system, so you'd want Apache or THTTPD or some alternative, and you need SAMBA because somebody's going to have a Windows box you need to talk to. And obviously you're going to want some wireless tools to help you build wireless networks - at least Netstumbler.

    A USB memory stick is really useful if you want to make servers run on unknown-condition hardware, and a USB hard drive can give you more space and power if you want to haul that around. Somebody else mentioned having various USB tools so you can download from digital cameras and other random devices.

    If you've got a mapping program that you can fit onto your CDs, that can be really helpful also, in case people don't have the bandwidth to get to Google/Yahoo/Mapquest. I don't know of any that run on Linux (I've got some old ones that run on Windows, and on Linux machines I just use Google), but I assume there are some out there that can read Tiger data.

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    1. Re:Apache, Samba, Wireless, USB, Map Software by anglete · · Score: 1

      There are a few. All of them are based on the TIGER US Census data:

      GMap is a cross platform one, based on Mono and GTK#, it runs both in linux and windows using OpenGL as the renderer. It can also give you directions.

      Roadster is a GTK based one that uses Cairo as its renderer and supports Points of interests.

  16. Give me a roof by dj245 · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    I think the priority should be a roof over their heads, a table to eat on, and some jobs to put the food on the table.

    Universal internet for hurricane victims comes dead last on my list. These people were knocked back to the 1800s. Let bring them back to indoor plumbing before we go all crazy with teh intarweb.

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    1. Re:Give me a roof by Scutter · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Universal internet for hurricane victims comes dead last on my list. These people were knocked back to the 1800s. Let bring them back to indoor plumbing before we go all crazy with teh intarweb.

      Access to information enables rescue workers and survivors to work efficiently to bring back necessary services as quickly as possible. Access to emergency databases (like FEMA's) allows families to find each other (Can you imagine losing your children in a flood and not knowing if they're dead or alive? I'd forgo food, shelter, and sleep until I found my daughter.) and for survivors to possibly find paying jobs if their old job no longer exists. Don't just assume that the rescue workers are just trying to entertain the survivors with online porn, solitaire, and Fark.com.

      Also, you'll note that these labs are all set up at the shelters which implies that at least the roof and the food are already taken care of.

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    2. Re:Give me a roof by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about a job first, to pay for the roof?

      Send your CV in Word, PDF or OpenDoc format to ...

      Oh, rats. Guess I'll just starve.

    3. Re:Give me a roof by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tell that to their families who are trying to get in touch with them to know what's going on and that they're safe.

      Asshole.

    4. Re:Give me a roof by Captain+Sarcastic · · Score: 2, Insightful

      These people were knocked back to the 1800s. Let bring them back to indoor plumbing before we go all crazy with teh intarweb.

      So what if they're in the 1800's? If we use 21st-century technological solutions, do we violate the Prime Directive or something?

      As someone else has already pointed out, this would be going on at shelters where food and water are already available. I don't think anyone would suggest that people who are trying to get out of a flooding house would be trying to lug a laptop with them.

      However, for information... well, I remembered that during Hurricane Katrina, either the floods or the power failures took out the local TV and radio transmitters (to say nothing of the receivers). At the shelters, the internet would be (and was!) available to get information in and out.

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    5. Re:Give me a roof by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

      Probably a better way to have put is use knoppix now. Work on a disaster liveCD when you are not dealing with a disaster. Right now isn't the time to worry about making a new live CD.
      I will say packet and HAM radio tools maybe a lot more useful after a disaster than internet access.

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    6. Re:Give me a roof by Emrys · · Score: 1

      At the shelters I deployed labs at, people were most definitely using these to find housing and jobs. But only after they'd put their names in the survivor registries and searched for their loved ones in those same registries. No one was really ready to move on until they'd at least tried to find the people they were missing, and that wasn't really possible without internet access.

  17. Arm and a leg? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I should think it would be OK for it to cost an arm and a leg. Should be plenty of those just floating around.

  18. Errr by squoozer · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    WTF. Can you eat and dring Linux now? Did you build a shelter out of Linux CDs? I am sure there are more productive ways you could have helped.

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    1. Re:Errr by Nichotin · · Score: 1

      You know, you need computer systems to coordinate the help effort. I am sure he did not waste his time and fooled around.

    2. Re:Errr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yet another example of the ignorance that surrounds a problem. People like you are to stupid to see the importance of communications in times of disasters, yet you complain when things are not done in an orderly fashion. I guess ignorance really is bliss.

    3. Re:Errr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Did you build a shelter out of Linux CDs?


      Yes, have you seen my room?
    4. Re:Errr by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      Did you build a shelter out of Linux CDs? No, that requires AOL CDs... they are a lot more plentiful and easier to come by! I say we all donate our AOL CD collections for disaster relief... if they use them to re-shingle a roof, it would be the best purpose an AOL CD has ever been used for!

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    5. Re:Errr by squoozer · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I'm sure you need computers to organize a relief effort but do you _really_ need a custom live Linux distribution that isn't ready until two weeks after the event? Hardly. This guy would have been better off going down there and shovelling dirt off the streets like the rest of the people actually trying to help.

      Technology doesn't help that much in situations like this despite what you migh like to think. If I had a choice between a glass of clean water and an Internet connected PC I know what I would choose any day of the week.

      When push comes to shove people seem to do pretty damn well at coordinating and communicating by just talking to each other. Amazingly, this doesn't require computers at all.

      Give the guy in the article a pat on the head for trying to help then get on with actually helping people.

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    6. Re:Errr by squoozer · · Score: 1

      I'll swap you your rations of food and water for a Linux CD. Nice one. While you are dehydrating and starving sucking on your CD I'll be living it up on your food and water.

      You have become to reliant on having instant communication with people beyond shouting distance. What could you possibly have to say to anyone beyond shouting distance that is going to make a difference in the given situation? Absolutely nothing.

      Get a grip and realize that you aren't that important and that you don't have anything important to say. If you are stuck in the wake of a disaster the best thing you can do is get yourself to an evacuation camp as fast as you can (assuming they are set up). Everything, and I mean everything, else is secondary.

      As for communications. The people coming to help you will bring their own communication that is tried and tested in emergency situation. You pay a huge amount of tax to ensure that these emergency systems are in place and can be deployed in this type of situation.

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    7. Re:Errr by neomunk · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      You actually have the BALLS to say "the people comming to help you will bring their own communication" after the farce that is American disaster cooridination was revealed? Log off slashdot and go back to watching Fox News you little facist troll. I bet you even think that Blackwater security in NOLA is a good thing, armed non-US Military soldiers holding Americans at gunpoint, and you think we want to rely on THEIR communication systems? Do us a favor and get your head out of your anus and go put it in an oven.

    8. Re:Errr by Jambon · · Score: 1
      WTF. Can you eat and dring Linux now?

      I guess you could.....

      Survivor 1: Hey honey, could you pass the Ubuntu? I'm getting kinda full of the knoppix I've been having.
      Survivor 2: Oh, sure. By the way, have you tried Tux? I never though fried penguin would tastes so good.

    9. Re:Errr by Flaming+Foobar · · Score: 1
      I'll swap you your rations of food and water for a Linux CD. Nice one. While you are dehydrating and starving sucking on your CD I'll be living it up on your food and water.

      Since when are they mutually exclusive? First you load the truck full of water and food, then you put your laptop and a few extra batteries on top of the pile. Why not prepare in every possible way?

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    10. Re:Errr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "If you are stuck in the wake of a disaster the best thing you can do is get yourself to an evacuation camp as fast as you can (assuming they are set up). Everything, and I mean everything, else is secondary."

      You're right. Thankfully, the people who evacuate don't have to set up shelters, unless you're headed to the Morial Convention Center.

      "As for communications. The people coming to help you will bring their own communication that is tried and tested in emergency situation. You pay a huge amount of tax to ensure that these emergency systems are in place and can be deployed in this type of situation."

      AP:

      Volunteers quickly helped connect devastated areas to the outside world, proving the worth of VoIP and Wi-Fi to help re-establish communications in the aftermath of an emergency.
      By Matthew Fordahl , The Associated Press

      Hours after Hurricane Katrina slammed into the Gulf Coast and knocked out telecommunications across much of the region, Mac Dearman visited shelters in northern Louisiana to connect telephones.

      Dearman doesn't work for a phone company.

      He owns a local wireless Internet service provider, and the gear he set up doesn't need a traditional phone network. It carries calls--as well e-mail and other data--over the Internet.

      "In the first 24 hours after we plugged the phones in, there were 11 family members reunited," he said. "We got a hug every time we went into a shelter to make sure things are up and running all right."

      Just as Katrina proved the vulnerability of traditional telephone and cellular networks, it also showed how Internet-based technologies could be used to speedily re-establish links with the outside world.

      Dearman was not alone. Teams from large companies, private groups, and the military converged on the Gulf Coast in ad hoc fashion to set up wireless networks, all the while battling bureaucracies that didn't seem to understand the agility and flexibility of the technologies being marshaled.

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      Whew. Good thing my taxes go to guys like Mac Dearman, and not to FEMA.

  19. Naming is important for disaster live-linux CDs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, is it HolyShitix or OhFuckix? :)

    1. Re:Naming is important for disaster live-linux CDs by Tribbin · · Score: 1
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  20. Re:It isn't going to! by Stupendoussteve · · Score: 0

    Well.... if we retrofit all humans and natural processes with Linux, you could solve problems AND have quite an extensive zombie network!

  21. The failure of single source solutions by stuffduff · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is a great example of the failure of single source solutions, specifically FEMA's IE6 only site. Sure it is easy to maintain a single source solution and it can help to keep costs down. Unfortunately, in this case it failed to be open enough to provide help to the people it was designed to help nor did it support the people it was created to support. In a disaster you will be lucky to get anything in the way of hardware, software and support, so the environment to support the disaster teams needs to be very very forgiving. Too bad it wasn't.

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    1. Re:The failure of single source solutions by i.r.id10t · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Easy to maintain would be plain text or a strict low-version HTML with no javascript, activex, plugins, whatever required. As a bonus, it would also work on anything capable of making that http request - be it firefox on a Mac running Debian or whatever those cell phones use or lynx or someone telnett'd to port 80.

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  22. Wait on FEMA and copilation too? by concept10 · · Score: 1, Funny

    How dare you suggest this.. you want people in need of relief to wait on FEMA and the time it takes to compile a Gentoo Live CD? You insensi.. oh, nevermind.

  23. Answering "Why Emergency Internet Access?" posts by Captain+Sarcastic · · Score: 5, Insightful

    During Hurricane Katrina, the Internet proved its value during disasters and disaster recovery. It was available when the TV and radio stations were flooded out or blacked out.

    During the initial recovery, instead of having to fill out reams of paper, people were able to electonically submit their information over the Internet.

    Instead of overloading the Post Office with "Where are you?" notes and "Here I am!" responses, people were able to use the Internet to send E-mail.

    Face it, people - the Internet did what it was supposed to do: stay connected even during emergencies. We've gotten used to it, our non-immediate disaster relief efforts now expects Internet access, and we made use of it when the usual media failed.

    So, posters who ask, "Well, what do they need Internet access for at a shelter?" - I offer my answer.

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  24. Mod this troll down... by rbarreira · · Score: 1

    See post's subject...

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  25. what about a flu pandemic? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.fluwikie.com/ has this "pandemic flu awareness week"

    I wonder if the internet would resist a flu pandemic. 30% people sick, more taking care of the sick ... Think Katrina x 1000 - who do you turn to for help?

    1. Re:what about a flu pandemic? by danielrose · · Score: 1

      The coming flu pandemic is a farce perpetuated by the illuminati.

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    2. Re:what about a flu pandemic? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm glad you know.

    3. Re:what about a flu pandemic? by neomunk · · Score: 1

      I would have laughed at you if it weren't for the fact that earlier today Bush asked congress to consider giving him powers to use the military for quarentine purposes during an Avain Flu outbreak. Um, yeah.

    4. Re:what about a flu pandemic? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      > I would have laughed at you if it weren't for the fact that earlier today fnord. Um, yeah.

      Huh? I don't get it.

  26. PWS and Mad Penguin are helping by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    PublicWebStations.com was doing something (including live Linux CD webstations, PC donations, manpower, etc) with MadPenguin.org and TechnologyRescue.com a while back to help Katrina victims. I don't have a direct link but either site will have the info. Good effort to be inolved in either way.

  27. It is NOT partially paid-only by Hannibal_Ars · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's not true that the article is partially paid-only. None of Ars Technica's content is paid only, either partially or wholly. You can pay for a PDF of it, but you get the HTML content for free.

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  28. Dupe? by Monoman · · Score: 1

    Not really but I posted an Ask Slashdot(Denied of course) right after Katrina. Basically I figured the geek community could come up with a way to put together a Live CD simple enough for victims in shelters to use.

    Once victims were in places like shelters with power they would need access to various agencies' forms. The would also be able to do some emails or post to victims forums.

    Old PCs donated to shelters would be handy as well. Heck, make sure the system boots with the live "disaster" disc or usb thingy and find a place to donate it.

    oh nevermind.

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    1. Re:Dupe? by DrHanser · · Score: 1

      Don't feel bad. This article was submitted this morning and it was denied. Slashdot editors don't exactly communicate with one another. Nor are they consistent. Nor are they especially bright.

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  29. Already done this. by login: · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've been working with my local Red Cross (in Canada) to create just such a disk. We tentatively named it "RedCrossix" and it is based on Knoppix 3.6.

    There were a couple of key goals when we created it:
        -Needs to be able to boot from CD OR install to HD.
        -Must be secure (unable to read/write hard disk) of borrowed PC, unless you do install.
        -Very simplified desktop and menu structure in KDE. Web Browser / Email / Word processor / Games.
        -Needs to auto-detect hardware (thanks Knoppix team for this..)
        -Customization (red-cross wallpaper, splash screens, etc).

    It's actually pretty simple to take Knoppix and do this. If anyone's interested, reply and I'll post my notes later tonght when I get home (after 11pm MST - North American Time).

    1. Re:Already done this. by terpl · · Score: 1

      Actually I am interested. send me an e-mail at cNOSPAMgillen@shaw.ca .

    2. Re:Already done this. by ub3r · · Score: 1

      I am also interested in creating a customized knoppix build similar to yours. If possible could you also email me at j450n@cox.net
      Thanks
      Jason

    3. Re:Already done this. by SteveHargadon · · Score: 1

      I started the publicwebstations.com website, and I'd like to see what you've done. We've also used Knoppix extensively. Thanks, Steve

    4. Re:Already done this. by login: · · Score: 1

      Ask and ye shall receive. Hopefully the formatting turns out ok.. The below is available as a word doc called 'redcrossix.doc' at http://www.mikelong.ca/downloads/rc/

      1. Follow the instructions at http://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13867 , with the following additional notes.

      2. Removing packages: Use the following commands to remove extra packages.

      A) # deselect update
      The above command updates the system package list.

      B) # dpkg-query -W --showformat='${Installed-Size} ${Package}\n' | sort -n The above command displays packages and disk usage.

      C) # apt-get remove packagename
      Here are some of the packages I removed:

      - openoffice-de-en
      - kdevelop3
      - gdb
      - kompare
      - emacs*
      - xtel
      - gpsdrive
      - ethereal
      - lynx
      - elinks
      - xchat
      - airsnort
      - ettercap-*
      - gq
      - mtr
      - pppstatus
      - wavemon
      - mutt
      - slrn
      - minicom
      - iptraf

      D) # deborphan | xargs apt-get -y remove
      The above command removes orphan packages

      E) # apt-get clean
      The above command clean up old install packages that are no longer needed.

      3. Customize the 'Loading KDE' splash screen by changing the file: /usr/share/apps/ksplash/Themes/Default/splash_top. png.

      Editing Menus
      The menu's in KDE and possibly other window managers are generated dynamically by the 'menu' script. You cannot use normal methods of remastering to change the menu's, and most move to a different method. I got around this by doing 2 things:

      a) Commenting out lines 125-150 (rsync block) in /remaster/etc/X11/Xsession.d/45xsession

      b) Create your remastered CD, and boot from it on a different PC then you remaster from. It will have the default menu's the first time. Don't worry. Use KDE menu editor to customize them, as you would like them to be. Also, use the KDE Control Center for any other changes you want (wallpaper, etc). When you are done, put a USB key in the drive. The system will automount it, showing you the name of the partition(s) on it. These will likely be /dev/sda1, or something similar.

      c) Use the Knoppix "Save Configuration"(KMenu --> KNOPPIX --> Configure --> Save Knoppix Confguration OR run 'saveconfig') script to save your configuration to the USB key. I save 'Personal Configuration', 'All Files on Desktop', and other to my USB partition. This will create 2 files: configs.tbz and knoppix.sh.
      d) Get these files back to your 'remaster' box, and copy them to "/remaster/KNOPPIX.build/Knoppix.Master/KNOPPIX-CU STOM/KNOPPIX/" directory. Now, rebuild and remaster your CD again. From here they should be run on EACH boot, and will take affect.

      4. The directory remaster/KNOPPIX.build/Knoppix.Master/KNOPPIX-CUST OM/boot/isolinux holds the boot files. Here you can edit:
      * boot.msg - says "Press keys F2 and F3..." and displays the version number in the next line
      * minirt24.gz - the minikernel which boots and shows welcome to knoppix in many colors. Beware - editing this file by me made it un-bootable. More research is required.
      miniroot24.gz is 799,962. Miniroot24 is 4,608,000
      * Logo.16 - the boot splash screen. An LSS format file. Make by building a 640x400 16-color bitmap to start with. Then use the following commands within Linux to convert it to lss. Assume in the following example that our file is called logo16.bmp
      # bmptoppm logo16.bmp > logo16.ppm
      # ppmtolss logo.16

      5. To prevent the 'hard disk', 'cd-rom', etc icons from being placed on the desktop at boot, you will need to edit the /etc/X11/Xsession.d/45xsession file. Comment out the line that reads 'mkdesktophdicons'. In my case, this was around line 380. Note that this is for KDE - for other window managers, these may be c

  30. Hold on a sec. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Normally, I would whole heartedly agree with you on this. But, after reading the article (Slashdot heresy), I see that internet access was indeed needed and helpful for the survivors in the shelters. The article also discusses software to include in future CD's that were sorely missed in this endeavor.

    The most interesting request from the Red Cross was for white-lists. Apparently, despite the disaster, some "evacuees" felt the need to surf porn on the kiosk PCs.

  31. Here in Lafayette, LA... by Dr_Ish · · Score: 4, Informative
    At our local shelter, the Cajundome, the IE6 FEMA problem was major too. Although intially some machines were loaded with a Linux distro (I don't know which), this issue prevented them from being used. Fortunately, some guy walked in and offered a bunch of Win2k machines, that we could get IE 6 to run on. Once we had them up and running though, the FEMA site tanked.

    In the discussion section, some people have argued that net connectivity is less important than food and shelter. This is true. However, the web site was the only way for most people to get registered with FEMA. As this is one of the most important tasks, once basic needs are met, network connections should not be under estimated. A good word should also be given to Yahoo, for providing free e-mail accounts. Last time I used this system (ages ago), they required a referring e-mail address. They no longer require this. This was crucial, as FEMA require an e-mail address to complete the registration process. That being said, it is a shame that FEMA (known in these parts as 'The Finally, Eventually Made-it Agency) has otherwise been so damn useless.

    There was another lab where people could have more general net access. There many people seemed to find a huge sense of relief in being able to see their houses on google, even when the houses were under water. One older man I helped was totally blown away at the idea of seeing the Ninth ward of N.O from space. He wept when he saw that his house still had a roof, and then started making jokes about how the fishing would be good from his porch! For a person who has lost everything, anything that can bring a bit of joy is very valuable indeed.

    Another point needs to be raised in the context of this liveCD discussion. This is the fact that on many older machines (I know this, as I have alot of practice with these), the CD drive is one of the first things to fry. This is a problem.

    One final point, in the article, there is a discussion of the role of M$ in the disaster relief in this State. The current 'official' State operating system is Win2k. So, they will have been especially motivated to assist a good customer. However, from time to time we hear rumours that the State is going to make M$ software mandatory (I work for a State of Louisiana institution). Fortunately, this hasn't happened yet.

    Just my 2 cents.

    1. Re:Here in Lafayette, LA... by techno-vampire · · Score: 1

      Up until the early '70s, we had Civil Defense, run locally by volunteers who knew the area. Then, that was dismantled and replaced by FEMA; a centralized bureauocracy headquarted in DC and therefore unable to have any local knowledge. Of course it's slow to respond, and believes in "one size fits all" solutions like forcing people to register on-line with one and only one browser. Thank you, Jimmy Carter for foisting this on us.

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  32. windows bootCD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The article mentions BartPE.
    A great product in its own right, there's also a different project that builds on BartPE.
    Mostly its just included a bunch of add-ons and applications to make the CD better from the start.
    http://www.ubcd4win.com.nyud.net:8090/
    Ultimate BootCD for Windows.
    Don't confuse it with the Ultimate Boot CD.
    http://www.ultimatebootcd.com.nyud.net:8090/
    The UBCD is DOS based, but has quite a few diagnostic apps that would do well in any technofiles toolbox.

    UBCD4Win includes a window manager ("shell") to make it look like windows (BartPE by default only has a small start button), includes several antivirus applications, email apps, web browsers, tons more. :)

  33. Map Software by bobbuck · · Score: 1

    Roadmap (http://roadmap.digitalomaha.net/) uses TIGER derived maps. It will show you your position on a map as you drive and interfaces through gpsd which can talk to NMEA GPS's.

  34. Re:Answering "Why Emergency Internet Access?" post by dr_dank · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Instead of overloading the Post Office with "Where are you?" notes and "Here I am!" responses, people were able to use the Internet to send E-mail.

    Face it, people - the Internet did what it was supposed to do: stay connected even during emergencies. We've gotten used to it, our non-immediate disaster relief efforts now expects Internet access, and we made use of it when the usual media failed.


    Given the hardest hit areas with no electricity or telecom services to speak of, amateur radio deserves the credit for getting communications in and out of the area first. The internet came into play in the outlying areas or areas that had some facilities restored. Amateur radio operators train to handle emergency and welfare traffic using alternative power sources so they aren't dependent on whenever electricity is brought back.

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  35. Insted of overloading the Post Office... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Post Office uses the Internet for most of it's business you insensitive clod! https://moversguide.usps.com/?referral=USPS

  36. Re:Answering "Why Emergency Internet Access?" post by khallow · · Score: 1
    I've seen a working internet connected network where the nearest utilities were 10-20 miles away (see the fun here. They were using some sort of satellite internet (Direct TV, I think) and a portable generator. There were something like eight to a dozen laptops (and a couple of regular PCs) connected to this network and the bandwidth appeared ample. They kept the network running continuously and without incident for around two full days.

    My point here is that you really don't need that much infrastructure for internet connectivity.

  37. Re:Answering "Why Emergency Internet Access?" post by SheeEttin · · Score: 1

    And anyway, what would us porn addicts do? :P

  38. Re:Answering "Why Emergency Internet Access?" post by Captain+Sarcastic · · Score: 1

    Yes, you're right.

    Amateur Radio regularly schedules "Field Days", where a simulated emergency is posited, and people have 24 hours to make as many radio contacts as they can. IIRC, their score is also affected by the conditions under which they operate... contestants using 110-volt wall current have to make more contacts to score as high as those using gasoline-powered generators.

    Amateur radio usually gets info in and out of disaster areas first.

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  39. Be careful... by Anonymous+Squonk · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Linus' baby will be old enough to drink soon...

    1. Re:Be careful... by Anonymous+Squonk · · Score: 1

      D'oh...wrong Linux thread. :-(

  40. Internet access and disasters by DownTheLongRoad · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A few posts here seem to miss the importance of internet access in disaster recovery. The only way we could apply for FEMA aid was through the website(which crashed every other time we logged on). The phone lines(which mostly never went down) were clogged for weeks and probably still are.

    Getting in touch with friends and family, receiving information on the extent of the disaster and applying for aid make access essential.

  41. Hm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Where's the GECK* when you need it?

    (* For those of you who don't remember Fallout 2: Garden of Eden Creation Kit)

  42. Definitely outside of the Red Cross IT guidelines by Fubar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The Red Cross IT folks are really, really picky about what is used on their networks and what is used in their name. The Red Cross has a procedure in place to bring internet connectivity to a shelter, HQ or service center and it doesn't include linux. I spent three weeks as a "RTT" member in the Gulf Coast, they use Windows for everything and either bring in a T1 or use in-house VSAT equipment (either an ECRV or a fly-away kit) for network connectivity.

    While FEMA website access works great, the ARC proxy server blocks out all webmail access. Nothing like thousands of volunteers and clients being unable to ping family about how they're doing.

    And an off-topic note - the ARC is doing some amazing innovation in the field of emergency IT.

  43. emerge by yoyhed · · Score: 1
    tools to emerge from the efforts of myself and others to meet the shelters' need

    Might want to reconsider the Gentoo decision, victims won't want to wait to recompile the lastest search & rescue team with optimizations ;-)

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  44. MOD this pompous asshole DOWN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    n/m

  45. Re:Get some PRIORITIES!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But some of us 'geeks' are on the other side of the world and have no way of helping something that happened in America and don't have a few grand to go and buy a ticket to fly there... this is something we can do to help and possibly one of the only things.