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Dell Offering "Open" PC

Sans writes "Dell began offering a new desktop Dimension E510n PC this week with no operating system installed. The machine is designed for people who want to run open-source software such as Linux instead of Windows. The PC comes with a blank hard drive and a copy of the FreeDOS operating system, which can be installed by customers."

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  1. How is this news? by gagravarr · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've bought 3 desktop PCs from dell in the last year that came without an OS, and with a FreeDOS cd in the box. So, how does this announcement qualify as news?

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  2. Re:Waste of time and source of FUD for Microsoft by Gojira+Shipi-Taro · · Score: 4, Informative
    They do... From TFA:

    Despite its affinity for selling Windows-based computers, Dell is also a staunch supporter of Linux. The company has invested almost US$100 million in open-source developer Red Hat and sells PCs and servers based on its operating system, such as its Dell PowerEdge SC430 with a dual-core Pentium.

    On the desktop, Dell has been installing Linux on its Precision workstations for a couple years. Dell spokesman Liem Nguyen said the company will continue to do so.
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  3. Re:SHENANIGANS! by itomato · · Score: 3, Informative

    http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/features. aspx/featured_desktop2?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs

    $679
    After $50 Off Instantly!
    Only an 80GB HD, but there's the bonus of a 17" LCD..

  4. Re:news? by F_Scentura · · Score: 3, Informative

    Let alone the *horrible* support that comes with the Dell consumer line.

  5. Dell Machines w/Red Hat Pre-Loaded by everphilski · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/compare.a spx/precn_n?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd

    Took less than 5 minutes of looking. Hit *customize* and make it your dream machine.

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    1. Re:Dell Machines w/Red Hat Pre-Loaded by everphilski · · Score: 3, Informative

      Read later on in this thread. Actual cost of a license in volume is about $30. And that price is reflected in the cheap machines. (post is by Trip Master Monkey).

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    2. Re:Dell Machines w/Red Hat Pre-Loaded by RetroGeek · · Score: 5, Informative

      Why is it that if I buy an OS free machine the price changes $0?

      This is how Microsoft got so much market share. They had agreements with the HW manufacturs that based Windows 3.x licence costs on boxes going out the door.

      If you sold a computer, you paid MS for a Windows licence, even if the hard drive was unformatted. So there was no incentive (and quite a bit of financial detriment) to offer alternate OS's.

      I believe that this was ruled illegal, but by then it was too late.

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  6. Re:Not necessarily "Open source" PC... by wedding · · Score: 3, Informative

    Part of it would depend on how you acquired your seat of Windows. Remember that most copies are OEM, and would be tied to the hardware they shipped on. In that case, you _would_ have to buy that seat of XP if you wanted to run it on the new box.

    Office etc are all the same when buying OEM. We just had a burglary a few months back, and had to repurchase Office (covered, so not a big thing,) because the CDs I had were OEM tied to the hardware that was no longer in my possession.

  7. Re:Not necessarily "Open source" PC... by diogenesx · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you bought a brand name computer, you're out of luck if you want to install the copy of xp on another machine. The OEM licensing says that copy of XP is only valid for that individual pc. I tried using a copy of XP that came with a Dell on an HP computer. I had to call micrsoft for validation. They asked why I needed xp re-activated and I said I was moving it to my new PC. I was told that I could only use that copy on the Dell and that I must purchase a new copy for the new computer. I told the rep I'd install Linux instead, and I did ; ).

    The moral of the story: If you want to use an OEM copy of XP on another computer. lie.

  8. I *would* have bought this... by fak3r · · Score: 5, Informative

    I would have bought this earlier this year, as it stands I bought a Dimension 3.2G box for less than 500$. I DID NOT want to buy a machine with XP already installed on it, but get this; it was 80$ CHEAPER to buy the same machine with Windows than a 'naked' machine with a freeDOS option! I guess it's supply and demand, but it still irks the hell outta me that I paid the MS 'tax' and continued the 'look at home many ppl buy machines with XP installed!' FUD. Can these "Open" machines compete in price with Dell's (constantly) adverstised special? If not, I can't see too many ppl paying more for a machine with no OS vs a cheaper machine with XP (That I immediately installed over - no, I didn't look into the 'rebate' - sounds like it's a hassle anyway).

  9. Re:Real news will be when Apple ... by rworne · · Score: 5, Informative

    They do - in a way.

    Yellow Dog Linux is an Apple "Value Added Reseller". From their website:

    A Unique Apple Reseller

    Terra Soft, an Apple Authorized OEM VAR (Value Added Reseller) is granted a unique license to install Yellow Dog Linux on Apple computers and maintain full Apple hardware warranty for home, commercial, education, and government customers.

    If that isn't approval by Apple, I don't know what is.

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  10. Re:Real news will be when Apple ... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 3, Informative
    Not to mention that way back in the 68k era it was possible to get a choice of MacOS or AU/X (Apple UNIX) on Apple hardware, and that Apple financed mkLinux - the port of Linux to run on top of Mach for running on Apple PowerPC hardware.

    Seems like the grandparent is suffering from Mac-envy.

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