SUSE 10.0 OSS Released

O0o0Oblubb!O0o0O writes "Today, Novell released SuSE 10.0 OSS for download. Product highlights include kernel 2.6.13, gcc 4.0.2, glibc 2.3.5, improved boot times and Xen 3. Torrents are available for the i386, ppc and x86_64 versions. The downloadable OSS edition lacks some packages for licensing reasons of which some, like Java, can be installed via package repository."

Comments

Stability

[michaelzhao]

With SUSE releasing one suite after another. I sometimes wonder about stability. When was 9.3 released? Wasn't it only a few months ago? I wish SUSE should find a way to follow Slackware's model of stable releases without sacrificing too much market share.

Also, the software is getting way to bloated. Why all the software packages SUSE?

Re:Stability

[cduffy]

SuSE has always included lots of packages -- it's a feature, not a bug!

No, really. You aren't required to install all of them, after all.

Re:Stability

[Anonymous Coward]

software is getting bloated because customers are asking for features. It happens to almost all software.

Re:Stability

[sloanster]

With SUSE releasing one suite after another. I sometimes wonder about stability. When was 9.3 released? Wasn't it only a few months ago? I wish SUSE should find a way to follow Slackware's model of stable releases without sacrificing too much market share.

Also, the software is getting way to bloated. Why all the software packages SUSE?

As has been the case for years, suse releases an upgrade about every 6 months, so I'm not sure I understand what your objection is. Nobody is forcing you to upgrade - and if you prefer Slackware, run slackware.

As to the software getting "too bloated", nobody is forcing you to install anything - you can easily install a bare bones system, without X-windows if that makes you happy. It's all in the install menu, these are all very basic concepts.

Re:Stability

[sloanster]

If you want stsble long time, corporate quality distrib you buy Novell Linux Desktop or SLES/OES. Suse 10 is for hobbyists, and like the Suse Pro 9.x releases is a quarterly release cycle roughly.

I'm not sure what you mean by "hobbyists" but it sounds vaguely insulting.

IMHO it would be more accurate to say that SuSE 10 is a full-featured distro for linux power users, while the more verticalized sles/nld are meant for the corporate market, managers who don't mind things being a little stale, and who want to have an 800-number to call, any time, should they ever have any questions.

OpenSuSE is in some ways analagous to fedora, except that you can't get a boxed set of fedora linux, nor fedora manuals, nor any fedora support from the vendor, while with SuSE, you have the option of downloading and freely using OpenSuSE, or purchasing SuSE 10.0 retail, which comes with all the extras -

BTW I know of several small businesses running their networks and services on suse linux professional servers, and are quite happy with it. No "hobbyists" they!

Re:bloatedness - good point

[bytor4232]

Well, with Debian you can download an iso image thats right around 50 megs, and everything else is installed via the web. Similar concept, no?

Re:Evolutionary or revolutionary?

[photon317]

gcc-4.x is a big, big step. If I were a distro, I'd make a major version bump just for gcc's major version bump if for no other reason. You want your clients to be very aware of all the potential fallout from the gcc upgrade, especially this early.

Re:Evolutionary or revolutionary?

[nordi]

With version 10.0 they opened the distribution to the community, or at least they have started the process. This version had the first ever public beta test for Suse Linux. I think that is quite revolutionary when you compare it to how things used to be.