SUSE 10.0 OSS Released

O0o0Oblubb!O0o0O writes "Today, Novell released SuSE 10.0 OSS for download. Product highlights include kernel 2.6.13, gcc 4.0.2, glibc 2.3.5, improved boot times and Xen 3. Torrents are available for the i386, ppc and x86_64 versions. The downloadable OSS edition lacks some packages for licensing reasons of which some, like Java, can be installed via package repository."

Comments

Re:Stability

[MikeB90]

If you want stsble long time, corporate quality distrib you buy Novell Linux Desktop or SLES/OES. Suse 10 is for hobbyists, and like the Suse Pro 9.x releases is a quarterly release cycle roughly.

You can get an image with the proprietary software

[Anonymous Coward]

http://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/10.0/iso/SUSE-10 .0-EvalDVD-i386-GM.iso.torrent

Re:Stability

[beetle99]

I think that they (Novell) looked at the approach that Red Hat has used and thought that it makes sense. RHES has less frequent releases, designed to be more stable, while Fedora is updated much more often. Novell is just doing the same thing with SLES and SUSE Linux 10.0.
Compare:

SUSE Linux 10.0 Comparative Features and Benefits
Enterprise Linux or Fedora?

So if you want a more stable release, then both Red Hat and Novell want you to pay for it. If you use the free versions, you get new features more often, but sacrifice some stability. And you aren't forced to upgrade immediately. It's still more stable than some other operating systems.

Re:bloatedness - good point

[taylork]

Suse usually has a "network install" which is pretty much like this.

work in progress

[vlad_petric]

I believe that xen/x86_64 is work in progress (Xen FAQ). Give Novel some slack here ... The real question is how well Xen/Novel works on suse/ia32. I really like xen, the only problem is that it takes quite a while to setup right.

Torrent mirror

[zeth]

I tried downloading the torrents from the ftp a while back and it was bogged. I have a copy of them, if their servers get bogged down again at http://johnny.chadda.se/2005/10/06/suse-100-finall y-released/

By the way, I have tried the 10.0 RC1 and it was really great. The only thing not working is my P910i sync, but I'll work on that. :)

And OpenXChange

[Dr.Dubious DDQ]

Many of them, I think, are missing because of their dependency on (non-open-source) Java, which is not included. (In other words, Eclipse itself is OSS, but since it relies of non-OSS Java, they leave it out too.)

I have no idea about the bitstream vera fonts, though - that makes no sense to me at all, since I was sure they were distributed as open source...

Re:bloatedness - good point

[cortana]

It makes more sense to create a program, we could call it Jigdo, that downloads the debs you want and constructs the iso on the client machine. ;)

interesting Troll

[Anonymous Coward]

Google the number 49.7

One of those cases where the person could be mistaken, lying, or just mad.

If only it was possible to do psychometrics on trolls.

Re:GM?

[Ruediger]

Gold Master

"I'm glad to announce the final version (aka the Goldmaster) of SUSE Linux 10.0. Developing 10.0 as part of the openSUSE project with an open bugzilla was a new and great experience. Thanks a lot to everybody that contributed in testing, reporting and fixing bugs, discussions etc."

source

Re:This is a quality distro

[Daemonik]

Really admire SUSE and have used it for several years now. I only wish Novell admired the tremendous care and hard work put in by the SUSE engineers, but if you go to the front page of http://www.novell.com/ you'd be pushed to know Novell even have SUSE. This new version and the new OpenSUSE initiative are things to shout about, one might think. Sigh. Novell are their own worst enemies.

SuSE Linux and SuSE Enterprise Server are listed under Products directly on that page. They receive no special attention but then they aren't hidden either. There's also a rather prominent Flash add detailing 10 reasons to choose Novel Linux solutions.

As for Novell 'shouting out' about OpenSuSE, please keep in mind that Novell is a corporate entity doing business with other corporate entities and is much more likely to tout the products that it sells, thus generating revenue which can then support community projects like OpenSuSE. OpenSuSE is not a make or break for Novel, it is more a gesture towards the community and a thumb in the eye of RedHat/Fedora. I am more impressed with Novel's decision to continue offering a supported consumer version of SuSE rather than abandoning the consumer market like RedHat.

Hacking OpenSuSE

[Shadow Labs]

There's a good resource here on how to install the packages that are missing from the OSS version:

Hacking OpenSuSE

Re:Downloading/Installing

[weekendgeek]

Ummmm...... You're wrong.

SuSE from 9.0 has had NTFS resizing. Even mounts your NTFS windows partition as /windows/C

Re:Stability

[bigtangringo]

Uh dude, you can download the 5 CD version of 10 if you want.
# CD ISO image 1 (32bit, 702 MB)
# CD ISO image 2 (32bit, 730 MB)
# CD ISO image 3 (32bit, 734 MB)
# CD ISO image 4 (32bit, 726 MB)
# CD ISO image 5 (32bit, 733 MB)

Re:Stability

[krayfx]

get the suse super then! thats a single cd version!!! get the rest of them, say the propreietary bits like java and stuff later when yu connect again. this single cd version has a kde build and a gnome build, also something known as "slick". i am using the beta version currently and will soon upgrade the single cd - kde only final release - it was pretty good for a beta even, BTW.

Re:Fast fast fast

[mkwng]

TLMP has the torrents at:

http://www.tlm-project.org/public/distributions/su se/i386/10.0/iso/SUSE-10.0-EvalDVD-i386-GM.iso.tor rent

and

http://www.tlm-project.org/public/distributions/su se/i386/10.0/iso/SUSE-10.0-EvalDVD-x86_64-GM.iso.t orrent

Installing commercial apps

[seguso]

Here is a guide for adding sources to Yast and installing proprietary applications (java, realplayer, codecs, dvd capabilities, acrobat reader...) : http://www.thejemreport.com/mambo/content/view/178 /42/