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CND Government Demands Widespread Tap Access
north_of_49 wrote to mention a Globe and Mail article stating that the Canadian government is seeking the ability to conduct surveillance on the communications of its citizenry. From the article: "The major boost in interception capacity is in proposals the government has put forward in confidential negotiations with the telecom industry as it prepares new legislation on high-tech wiretapping scheduled to be introduced next month. Government officials insist their proposals will bring Canada's laws on wiretaps -- drafted when people still attached alligator clips to telephone lines to listen in -- up to speed with new technologies. But privacy advocates fear an erosion of safeguards, and telecom companies worry the government wants them to build in a costly interception system."
A comment made by someone at the bottom of the article:
The real purpose is to give the Recording Industry access to people who trade music files.
Correct.
Okay, it's a joke, and I know that a large part of the Canadian population lives in urban areas - BUT, having said that: why would a country like Canada resort to such drastic measures? To paraphrase Benjamin Franklin, 'Who would give up liberty to gain security deserves neither liberty nor security.' I live here in the U.S. and am disgusted by all the increasing trickle of loss in civil liberties. One of these days we're going to wake up and it's Big Brother - we're really getting dangerously close. If Bin Laden wanted to destroy our 'way of living' - well, I hate to say that he already succeeded. Michael
The second comment on the article says it all:
"Criminals and terrorists can easily bypass these measures using
encryption, stegonography, etc. The real purpose is to give the
Recording Industry access to people who trade music files. Anne
McLellan has been working with them on this for a couple of years. For
the sake of the greed of a few huge music corporations they're taking
up the tools of the Police State. Political surveillance is a heartbeat
away from this.You are the target. "
Nice.
In a couple of years, once this has passed, they'll make it an offence not to keep your encryption keys. Just look at the U.K.
You may think that the Netherlands is a free country, but we have had laws like that for years here.
Every company providing public communication has to be able to tap all traffic on demand. This not only includes fixed telephone lines, but also mobile (including location of the mobile set), Internet, etc.
The number of active taps per capita here is amongst the highest in the world. And the consumer is paying for all this, as the cost compensation given to the companies is not nearly covering the real cost of making these taps.
Furthermore, tapping is addictive. Now that the secret service has so many taps running, they start to see that it would be even better when everything is tapped and kept, so that after-the-crime analysis of data can be done as well.
Current law proposals are moving in this direction. Call records, mobile position data, Internet logs etc have to be kept longer and be made available on request.
This is of course only an intermediate step. Once this is implemented, it is found that even more information could be gained from the actual traffic, and the next requirement is to record all phone conversations and keep them for half a year. And to capture all Internet data sent to and from customers.
Worst of all is that we are part of the EU. Politicians abuse the EU for a kind of ping-pong game where they first draft up some idiotic idea, then discuss it (behind closed doors) with fellow politicians in other EU countries, a few countries implement the same idea, and then they report back in their own country that the new laws have to be passed for harmonisation within the EU.
In the first phase, any protest is waved away with "it is too early to discuss it, too early to protest, we are still drafting it and negotiating with EU partners" and then after some time (and a behind-closed-doors decision in the EU), the stance is changed to "we cannot turn this back, we are mandated by the EU to implement these laws, no need to protest because we are not making the decision".
This nearly went wrong with software patents, and now the same risk occurs with extended tapping of all telephone and internet traffic.
What amazes me most is that todays politicians are so easily being abused by terrorists.
Terrorism is achieving its goals using threat, and politicians easily play their game of threat amplification. Without having to actually perform any attacks, they move the entire free world to break down their free societies and destroy all the values they were so proud of a decade ago.
That seems like a bigger victory than blowing up some building.
"Nice thing about that, is the feds can declare such, and only a very small percentage of ppl (with access to the right equipment) can confirm or deny it."
Bullshit. Anyone with the right information (which is freely available) and access to a university Biology lab can verify it. THOUSANDS of people.
Stop lying, you're embarassing yourself.
The question you have to ask, is:
Why are our governments (Canadian, US, others) so terribly afraid of their citizens?
Come on, "Royal Canadian Air Farce" and "This Hour has 22 Minutes" is funny. If you look at your southern neighbour it's kinda hard to imagine that they would ever parody their own patriotism, in Canada its even state sponsored.
Have fun!
Je me souviens.
Because CDN is the short form of "Canadian", not "Canada". The articile title reads "Canadian Government", not "Canada Government"
If you lived here, you'd know that: A. If this is passed, our taxes will increase. Probably shown as "Access Fee". A(1). This said tax will be taxed again 7% GST. B. The Canadian Government (defined); is capable of "passing" law, but in-capable of "enforcing" laws. Same with everything from election platform promises to general public funding. C. Oh, and... Hoser Defined I agree. It's a plot to monitor us Canadians downloading our copious amounts of Rush and Tragically Hip music.
The beatings will continue until Morale Improves!
Perhaps the question we should ask is: why aren't modern governments afraid enough of their own citizens to tread very, very carefully when it comes to peeking into our private affairs?
I shouldn't, but sometimes I think wistfully of the time when a political leader who treated the people with disdain ran the risk not just of early retirement, but of being hanged to the nearest tree. I wonder whether the personal risks associated with being too arrogant in an earlier era might have wonderfully cleared the politician's mind of foolish delusions of grandeur and encouraged a salutary humbleness.
Yeah, it ends up being confusing to everyone :P