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TiVo Buries the VCR

Biul drolly writes "Apparently, TiVo's marketing department had difficulty with figurative speech in school." Specifically, News.com reports that TiVo held a mock funeral for the VCR this week. From the article: "While the death of VCRs and the VHS format has been long expected, it may be a bit premature to announce its arrival. Some 97 million households still have at least one VCR, according to the International Recording Media Association. However, TiVo's stunt does point out how fragile the VCR market is. Panasonic and Toshiba still make VCRs, as do lesser-known companies such as Lite-On, a Taiwan-based electronics manufacturer that sells its recorders through Wal-Mart Stores. But several manufactures have quit making VCRs. Brian Lucas, a spokesman for Best Buy, said that the retailer carries less than 10 models of standalone VCRs now. Ten years ago, it carried more than two dozen."

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  1. Marketting garbage for future technology by aussie_a · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Brian Lucas, a spokesman for Best Buy, said that the retailer carries less than 10 models of standalone VCRs now. Ten years ago, it carried more than two dozen.

    Uh-huh. That's certainly a guarded comment (designed to make the death of the VCR look like it will occur much sooner then it will), how many models of VCR-included technology does the retailer have?

    The amount of models isn't even that important, it's how many are being sold (and if they've made them last longer, even that isn't as important, although I doubt that they've improved it's longevity somehow).

    The amount of people using alternate technologies to VCR's, while it's increased, is far from dominant in any market. And I'd hardly say that the VCR market is fragile. While VCRs with content are becoming less and less common, blank VCRs are still the most common (along with cheapest and easiest) method of recording content off the television. And Tivo can't expect to lead (or even be a major player) in the next generation of recording technology if they continue their trend of putting content disseminators before their customers.

    In summary, the article twists facts to make VCRs look like they're going to become extinct much sooner then they actually will, and Tivo will need a HELL of a lot more publicity stunts if they continue with their current trend of kowtowing to content disseminators and hurting their customers.

  2. Re:I doubt those figures. by bennomatic · · Score: 4, Insightful
    What's to doubt? Just because people get DVD players doesn't mean they throw out their VCRs... People still have libraries of stuff which they haven't--and might not ever--convert to DVD.

    My parents are finally decomissioning one of their two Betamax machines. Under both their TVs, they've had a VHS and a Beta for, well, decades. I bought them a DVD player for their anniversary two years ago, and they use it all the time, but it doesn't mean that they're just going to toss the VCR. Heck, they still get broadcast TV over a roof-top antenna!

    For them to move to a new technology, it takes a pretty significant push. For them to actually ditch the old, it's got to be even greater. And with our aging population, I'll bet there are plenty of people--at least 97 million of them--who are more than happy to hold on to their old technology.

    Parents? What about me, actually? I rarely use my VCR, but I still have it, and it works great for the rare occasions that I do record anything for later viewing. I sincerely doubt that I'll ever buy TiVo. However, I'd be happy to buy a non-subscription-based (i.e. per transaction) downloadable video rental and purchase system like Apple is doing with iTunes Video.

    Videos, TV shows, podcasts, news headlines, sports highlights, political commentary. There's no reason why there should not be a huge market for a wide variety of downloadable content that traditionally would have gone over broadcast or cable.

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  3. They're not taking my VCR away! by hazee · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I like my VCR. It records what I tell it to. I don't have to put up with any crap about shows deleting themselves, or not being allowed to record them in the first place. I don't have to connect it to a phone line. I don't have to pay any sort of subscription fee. It lets me skip through any bits I don't want to see. It was dirt cheap to buy and operate. I have unlimited storage capacity. I can buy movies cheaper than any DVD, and that fill the frame of my cheap 4:3 TV.

    Explain to me again, why is the VCR dead?

  4. Re:And TiVo will be buried by... by aussie_a · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't see it myself. Unless the content can be enlarged to tv-size (and there are very large televisions out there ;) But let's say your average sized one) with no degredation (well, no quality-loss that a human can perceive anyway), I can't see the Itunes Video Store taking off. While it might be good to watch it on a small screen for those who have a lot of shows with no time to watch them, most people will want something more lasting then something that can only be viewed on a small screen for their $2.

  5. DRM by TheBrutalTruth · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The more restrictive and pervasive DRM gets, I for one am sure to keep a good 'ol VCR and analog TV around. Not as good as DVD, or HD - but hell, it works just fine. I am a "quality" snob, but I will not surrender my Fair Use rights for that quality.

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  6. Hubris by jmichaelg · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Given Tivo's past mis-steps, it shouldn't be too long before we see Tivo's funeral.

  7. Have vs USE by mac123 · · Score: 4, Funny

    >>Some 97 million households still have at least one VCR, according to the International Recording Media Association.

    I have three....count 'em THREE VCRs still plugged in, taking power and giving me the time very reliably.

    With 2 Tivos, when was the last time a VCR tape actually spun in one of these 3 decks? Over 3 years ago.

    The tapes are loud, look like crap, and are unwieldy on the shelf. I don't even know where I buried the tapes.

    Why don't DVD players display the time on the front? Then I could get rid of the clock/VCRs :-)

  8. DVD the true killer. by jbarr · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Some 97 million households still have at least one VCR...
    But how many households actually use them? Yes, you can record with a VCR, so certainly the DVR has killed the VCR recording market, but it is the DVD player that has truely killed the VCR market--in a much greater way than TiVo.

    That said, I simply couldn't live without my ReplayTV and Moxi DVRs!

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  9. Publicity Stunts by N8F8 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Good thing you picked up the story or the idiot who came up with this publicity stunt would be out of a job.

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