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Palm and RIM to Collaborate on Treo Software
Rayaru writes "Palm and RIM have apparantly signed a deal allowing the Treo 650 to use RIM's email software. "The partnership with RIM is unique in that it is Palm's first chance to give Treo customers automatic synchronisation with calendaring." It's interesting that the deal also includes "future Treo products with the Palm operating system." Perhaps a Treo 670 Palm version is in the works?"
This is a really good move on both sides. RIM's software is proven, while their hardware still has some crazy quirks. Palms hardware is proven, as is Palm OS, but a combination of the two pieces will make a great product.
The newer treo's series number is actually 700. Apparently this is News for Proofreaders.
I may have missed something, but wasn't RIM's Blackberry software found to infringe on a software patent held by someone else, and they were ordered to shut down their wireless e-mail service in the United States? I'm wondering if they will be developing software based on the patented tech that RIM was already slapped down for.
Could Palm have a strategy that is any more confusing? I hope that they have some master plan in all of this and that it doesn't leave out making their hardware (smart phones) more reliable. Mine crashes more than Windows and my friends in on his 5th one. I can't imagine how they can improve quality when working on so many platforms.
Palm and RIM to collaborate?
Look, there are those of us looking to make a cheap, sexually explicit joke about the headline and get some (+5 Funny) love.
But guys, you're just not making it difficult enough anymore.
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Ideally, I would like to see this fancy new combined software package contain support for either SyncML or GroupDAV. It would be nice to connect to open source calendar servers, using a sync server like Sync4J or even natively on standards-compliant calendar servers.
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From what I read, it will sync Mail and Cal. People are getting used to the latest Blackberry Enterprise server, which also does Contacts and Tasks. MS Outlook 2003 Exchange + Mobile 5 (read: Treo 700) will support Mail/Cal/Con/Task/Notes. If this really is only e-mail and Cal, it's not enough IMO and people will flock to Treo 700 because they want "all of outlook" and not "some of it".
Palm has also said this was in the works for well over a year and a half, with no resolution. What gives that they finally got this out the door, all-be-it in a feature-missing version?
Boy, do we have some moderators who don't get out of the house much.
A friend of mine got a RIM Job some time ago and he really enjoys working there, but he's had some problems in the work place. His private member is a dangling pointer which can only be accessed by his friends. He could always make his private members public, but then he might lose his RIM Job.
By the way, way back I remember a slashdot article about a thing you hook up to a PDA that projects a laser keyboard onto any flat surface, and with it you can type away and it would somehow detect which non-existing keys you're hitting. Are they any good (if they're still being sold that is)?
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Argh.
I've been hearing rumors and people running "Treo RIM Betas" for some time now - at least when I finally got my Treo 650 (and luckily, I don't seem to have some of the reset problems some have, but I will admit at least once a week - usually when I'm surfing the web - it reboots itself).
So if they want to announce this for 2006 that's fine, but are we talking "early because we're almost done" or "We're just going to do it sometime 2006 and we're just yankin' your chain again because we're really just going to do it about the same time as the Treo 700 with Palm comes out".
I'd like this, as my employer doesn't support any other mail hookup but RIM to their system, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
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So, this means PALM will be served papers from RIM sometime soon, right?
It will be especially cool if the Trio will connect to a Blackberry Enterprise Server. I installed one a month or so ago and it's great. We use the Groupwise version. It was a really easy install, and the features are awesome. Live, wireless connection to Email, Contacts, Calendar. Also, no need to EVER tether the device. All sync is done wireless.
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Palm's strategy is simple. They used to make decent, reliable devices. Now, they just make crap that crashes on a regular basis and scrambles user data.
They had two options.
They could have rallied and done their best to return to the days of producing quality devices worth the money.
Instead, they chose to ride on the value of their brand name, coasting until they run out of steam.
The company is on a long, slow death march, and the quality of their recent products demonstrates that.
This is just another cynical attempt to delay the inevitable. They don't want to put REAL work or money into producing something good, so they toss some dollars at implementing something that will get press and sucker in a few more buyers.
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"apparantly" is not a valid spelling. One should use "apparently".
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We've been using the Intellisync Mobile Suite for our enterprise users with great success. The client does an excellent job of providing email/calendar/contact sync via sms push. It's almost as fast as the Blackberry's we support, depending more on the users phone provider than on our Intellisync server.
Goodlink has been doing this for a long time. They even have a version of their software that runs on the Blackberries! Currently they're working on a version for Symbian for the pimp new Nokia phones.
but I'll leave it the the experts...
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I hope that they haven't hopped in to the same basket that is bound for a trip over the falls. There needs to be good competition in any market to keep even the best of companies from going astray. It would be sad to see any company own this market because they are still so far away from an ideal smartphone at least IMHO
Palm and RIM are smart enough to realize that simplicity could be thier greatest asset. Let Windows based handhelds have all the toys while the business world sucks up units that can perform the necessary day to day functions reliably with minimal power consumption. If you want toys, add a way to store photos of your kids (great to show to customers/clients on the road) or an MP3 player to listen while stuck in the airport.
If I want to play video games or watch movies, I'll go with something that has a bigger screen. If I want to type a document, I'll use my laptop (I usually need AutoCAD when I do documentation anyways).
Simple and elegent is the real power here.
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Don't you mean future RIM products with Palm OS? Or Future Treo Products with RIM e-mail or OS?
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Is there anything particular about the Treo 650 that would prevent using the Blackberry e-mail stuff on the Treo 600? Inquiring Treo 600 users want to know!
(besides slashdot readers have to deal with (palm/rim)job jokes):
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Great little program that got me through 2 years of Treo use.
So if Palm was going to choose an OS, you'd have thought that they'd have picked something that allowed them to differentiate and to control their own destiny. An OS like embedded Linux, or Symbian perhaps. But no, they had to move to the only OS I suspect I'm going to have hard time syncing my Mac with; the same one used by every other freaking PDA phone out there (all of which suck).
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And, now they add insult to injury by emphasizing the Blackberry software, and if -- in the process -- they make it "hard" for us IMAP client users to use what we want, again I'll be stymied.
So I guess I hope Apple actually gets into the business for real and not just partner with Moto. If they do, maybe they'll get real-time audio, WiFi, VoIp, and various bits of software right....
calendaring - daring to calen?
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But this sounds shit hot! Do you know how long I have been eyeballing a Treo, only to take pause when looking at RIM devices? A long, long time. Long time.
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There's a great email program for Palm-powered smartphones (like the Treo 650) called ChatterMail (http://www.chatteremail.com/) that works as you'd expect with POP3 mail servers, but given an IMAP server, you can have email pushed to your treo as it arrives, normally within a few seconds.
The whole experience is pretty much just like Blackberry mail, except it is on a versitle hardware platform (heh heh heh).
After 3 stages of support I got to a high-level support person at Verizon and he said they see far more problems with all of the combo devices than phones only. It's still just too tough to pack the combined functionality and get a reliable product. Some will work just fine but the stars really have to align.
And a dollar short. Good Enterprises has had this technology for several years available on both the Palm and PPC platforms. It frankly kicked the crap out of BES.... http://www.good.com/