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iPod Nano Scratches Result In Suit

Evil W1zard writes "Earlier this week a class action lawsuit against Apple was filed claiming that the iPod Nano has a widespread propensity for scratching easily. The lawsuit alleges that Apple violated state consumer protection statutes, as well as express and implied warranties and charges that Apple knew that there were design problems with the Nano." From the article: "An Apple representative declined to comment on the suit, but Apple has stated that the Nano is made of the same polycarbonate material that's found in previous iPods and maintained that the scratching problem does not appear to be widespread. The lawsuit charges, however, that the Nano contains a thinner coating of resin than on previous iPod models."

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  1. Fscking Scumbag Ambulance Chasers by geomon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "The amount and durability of the resin applied as a protective coating during the Nano manufacturing process is clearly defective in that it is not sufficient to adequately protect the face of the Nano from extreme scratching and ultimately irreparable damage," the lawsuit says.

    Notice that this statement is meant to sound like Apple just rigged Grandma's respirator to fail due to shoddy workmanship. While there is certainly damage to the Nano, and the coating process is "clearly defective", I don't buy for a minute the last statment that the players are irrparably damaged. There are plenty ways that Apple can make good without paying a fucking nickle to these assholes.

    Mind you, I am no Apple fanboy and am not against filing law suits when people are being scammed, but this suit is just one more reason to ship lawyers to the Moon to minimize contamination of the rest of the world's population.

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    1. Re:Fscking Scumbag Ambulance Chasers by AviLazar · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Notice that this statement is meant to sound like Apple just rigged Grandma's respirator to fail due to shoddy workmanship. While there is certainly damage to the Nano, and the coating process is "clearly defective", I don't buy for a minute the last statment that the players are irrparably damaged. There are plenty ways that Apple can make good without paying a fucking nickle to these assholes.

      It doesn't sound like that at all...in fact it just sounds like a lawyer utilizing strong language - which is something you should do if you are making a complaint, or a lawsuit. You are not going to write "we think that it might be possible the nano might scratch, where the other ipods will not". At no point did they claim apple was evil or tried to ripoff people who purchased the nano - so no, relating apple to someone who rigged grandma's respirator is completely false.

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    2. Re:Fscking Scumbag Ambulance Chasers by kryonD · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Seriously folks, it's no wonder that the legislature is ramming through laws to protect companies from these lawsuits. I mean really....there are places in this world where people will sell their daughters into the sex slave market so they can afford to get one kid through high school....and here we are whining that our iPod Nanos get scratches on them too easily. Am I the only one who thinks this is totally messed up?!?

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    3. Re:Fscking Scumbag Ambulance Chasers by Monkelectric · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Um, strawman argument. What you're saying is, until we are as bad as some other places, we have no right to complain? So I can't complain about high taxes, a government run by and for bafoons, because at least we're not as bad as some other placse?

      Just because other places are fucked up, doesn't mean apple gets to sell defective stuff (assuming that it is defective). The arguments have nothing to do with eachother...

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    4. Re:Fscking Scumbag Ambulance Chasers by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Funny
      Do you have a thin skin? Did Steve Jobs leave you raw after the manufacturing process? Are you pissed off? Good, because it's time to shout "I've got a scratch in my stupid fucking MP3 music player, and I'm not going to take it any more!"

      Get up off your fat ass or out of your ridiculous-looking jogging outfit (which incidentally looks like Richard Simmons beat you over the head and swapped your wardrobe for his) and get your butt down to the nearest cheap-ass Quinton Q. Slimey Attorney's With The Moral Sense Of Horny Bonobo Chimps On Viagra. We'll make Apple pay for your extreme scratching, for your plastic hemerroids that have so damaged your ability to listen to your stolen MP3 tunes.

      Look for us in the Yellow Pages, right under Flush Toilets.

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    5. Re:Fscking Scumbag Ambulance Chasers by JJman · · Score: 3, Interesting

      What else are you supposed to do for entertainment if you don't have TV?
      Seriously, when TV was introduced birthrates dropped right off.

    6. Re:Fscking Scumbag Ambulance Chasers by mkoenecke · · Score: 3, Funny

      As we in the profession like to say, it's that 95% of lawyers who are dishonest scumbags who ruin it for the rest of us.

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    7. Re:Fscking Scumbag Ambulance Chasers by Golias · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Sure, they're trying to make a strong case for themselves but "extreme scratching"??? Gimme a break.

      Indeed. "Extreme Scratching" sounds like something you might see on ESPN2.

      It's a fucking plastic electronics toy. Things can scratch it. Holy fuck, get some perspective, people.

      Everybody who owns glasses knows that the choice is: "Glare reducing. Scratch Resistant. Inexpensive. Choose two."

      So, Apple chose not to put a scratch-resistant surface on the screens of their low-budget flash-based iPod. Big fucking surprise. Can the nano still function if it's scratched? Hell yes. Can scratches be avoided if you are careful with it? Hell yes.

      Buy some brass polish, clean off any scratches you have, and spend six bucks on a slip-case for it. Whatever you do, don't sign on for this class action lawsuit, because the same thing will happen that always happens: Apple will settle out of court, you will get a pittance (like, perhaps a $10 iTunes gift card or maybe a can of scratch-removing polish if you are very lucky), and the scumbag lawyers will make millions and then move on to sue the company that signs YOUR paycheck.

      Oh yeah, and everybody pays more for fucking everything because paying off asshole law firms like this has become a routine cost of doing business these days, regardless of what you do or how well you do it.

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    8. Re:Fscking Scumbag Ambulance Chasers by Feanturi · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well, if I may throw some straw on the fire.. I think the point is that in the West we're a bunch of spoiled babies who have no concept of what it means to suffer. We complain about taxes (that build roads, fund schools, feed people etc) that we actually can pay, while others starve with nothing and barely even clothes on their backs. The real question is, are you, as a human being, actually *entitled* to bitch about how 'hard' your life is made by superfluous issues, while others barely survive? What did you do to *earn* the civilization that supports you? Maybe you personally have earned it, I don't know you, but I can assure you that most of the crybabies in our culture have not.

    9. Re:Fscking Scumbag Ambulance Chasers by Monkelectric · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I think the point is that in the West we're a bunch of spoiled babies

      Maybe, maybe not. But what the FUCK does that have to do with ipod's? Nothing except they are a luxury.

      The problem I think with your statement is that it implies more or less that having anything is wrong. I work 10 - 12 hours a day in a very tough industry. I pay 42% taxes off the top... at what point am I *ALLOWED* to have an ipod? If im not allowed to have anything, whats my incentive for working at all? If nobody worked then nobody would have anything. So to all of you who like to act righetous about conditions in 3rd world countries ... just remember it takes a LOT of people and a LOT of human energy and commerce to build the comforts and luxuries you want 3rd worlders to have access to.

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  2. I didnt know by timothykaine · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I didnt know you could just sue people for releasing a crappy product.

    I guess Microsoft and ATI both owe me a few bucks.

    1. Re:I didnt know by punxking · · Score: 5, Funny

      I didnt know you could just sue people for releasing a crappy product. I guess Microsoft and ATI both owe me a few bucks.

      That's a good idea, I'm going to do the same! I'll just save this legal letter I've written to my handy Iomega Zip Drive and then I'll

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  3. Of course the resin layer is thinner by aztektum · · Score: 3, Funny

    They just put a regular iPod in a cloner and reduced the scale. If you put a Nano in your cloner and increase the scale back to normal, the resin layer will compensate.

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  4. huh? by greenguy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Did anyone else have to read this headline four or five times?

    I finally got it, though. Someone had their iPod in their suit, which managed to scratch their results.

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  5. aluminum was better by zumbojo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Materials aside, these scratching problems seem symptomatic of a big step backwards in design. The iPod mini that the nano replaced was built from tough, brushed aluminum that stayed beautiful even after months in a pocket with change and car keys.

    (I [heart] my iPod mini.)

  6. He's lost it by tktk · · Score: 4, Interesting
    ...demanding that customers get their money back as well as a share of the company's profits on the music player's sales.

    The lawsuit seemed somewhat legitimate until I read this little gem at ipodnn.com http://www.ipodnn.com/news/05/10/21/ipod.nano.laws uit/

  7. I removed my scratches w/Brasso by Twid · · Score: 5, Informative

    I got a ridiculous amount of hits to my blog posting from a couple of weeks ago where I cleaned the scratches off my nano with Brasso. Actually, I got the idea from the original slashdot thread on the nano scratching issues.

    My take: the nano doesn't scratch more than a normal iPod, but it's so small that you're tempted to pocket it, causing more scratches than you would get in the un-pocketable full-size iPods. I see that with the new iPods w/video Apple is now including a *really* basic (fabric?) case. Maybe that was a response to all the talk about the nano. I do think that the nano needs some sort of screen protector or case in order to stay scratch free. I made mine from some old PDA screen protectors.

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  8. Battery by rlp · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'd be more concerned with the fact that the battery is soldered onto the unit! Of course, before the rechargable battery's worn out, you'll buy the IPod Pico ... and a magnifying glass.

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  9. OYFG by hotspotbloc · · Score: 4, Funny
    ...demanding that customers get their money back as well as a share of the company's profits on the music player's sales.
    Clearly being a heavy crack user doesn't stop someone from practicing law.
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  10. Re:I agree with you, but let's consider WATCHES by timster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, I don't know about CHEAP watches. Good watches have sapphire crystals, which aren't very easy to scratch.

    Fundamentally it's a matter of hardness; anything will scratch if it encounters something harder. Hard materials like diamond and sapphire are pretty much inherently expensive. Thus, any material that would be practical for an iPod will scratch.

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  11. why are the scratches important by GodWasAnAlien · · Score: 3, Interesting

    do the scratches prevent operation of unit or cut it's life short?

    NODRTA.

  12. Some thoughts.... by 8127972 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    OMFG! Where do I begin?

    1. Every iPod I own has gotten scratches.
    2. If you don't like scratches, get a case.
    3. If you already have scratches, try Brasso or iCleaner. I've tried both and they work well.

    Bottom line, scratches are the responsiblity of the owner. GM won't replace your car if YOU scratch it, so why should Apple pay up if your iPod gets scratched. Meaning that if you own an iPod Nano, it's YOUR fault that you have scratches. Please deal with it in a way that does not involve the justice system as it is NOT their problem.

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  13. Apple's Fault! Apple's Fault! by GiSqOd · · Score: 5, Informative

    Clearly, Apple should have provided guidelines to help keep everyone's iPod Nanos from getting scratched. I guess it falls to me to provide this valuable public service:

    1. Do not keep iPod Nano in the same pocket as your keys.
    2. Do not run over iPod Nano with your car: http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/nano.ars/3 .
    3. Do not use iPod Nano to scratch off your lottery tickets. Invest in a quarter, instead.
    4. Do not keep iPod Nano in the same pocket as your keys, dumbass: http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/tombstone/839/ show/70's_badluck.wav.
    5. Do not gnaw nervously on iPod Nano.

    and finally...

    6. Maybe think about investing in a $20 ultra-thin case for iPod Nano: http://www.speckproducts.com/nano-skintight.html.

    FWIW, in my experience, there are two kinds of people in this world. Those who know how to take care of personal electronics and those who casually throw their new toys in with their spare change. I've had the same iPod for almost 2.5 years now. Still runs fine, still without scratches, and I've taken it jogging, biking, to work, to the bathroom, across state lines, etc. I guess some people just can't have nice things.

  14. At least it still works by carambola5 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Complaining about a few scratches?!? How about running over it twice with a car and still playing music on it?

    People are being too obsessive about the "status" the iPod gives the owner, and not realizing that it's a damn solid product.

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  15. I don't get it... by afra242 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I bought an iPod nano since they first started shipping and I don't have one scratch on it. It's black too, so scratches would be more visible.

    I don't keep it in the same pocket as I do with keys, or other objects. I also run an hour daily, and the nano's in my hand/pocket during this time.

    I don't know how people treat their nano - I'm somewhat alarmed at all this. It's an electronic product: treat it as such.

  16. Apple people and aesthetics.. by Vellmont · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Apple has attracted a group of people that place an inordinate value on aesthetics. This isn't the first grumbling we've heard from the faithfull. Remember the Apple Cube and people complaining about "cracks" (small imperfections in the plastic) in the case? Now it's that the nano can get scratches in the screen. This is the price that Apple pays by attracting people that only seem to care about aesthetics. When something goes wrong with the aesthetics the faithfull scream their heads off.

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  17. ok, I gotta ask... by RapmasterT · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Since when has any consumer product been warrentied against scratching?

    considering that it's not being scratched by the freakin' air, you have to do "something" to it to scratch it. Pay attention, find out what that it, stop doing that. problem solved.

    I'm no apple fanboy, but not a big fan of idiots either.