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Indirect Documents At Last

BarryNorton writes "In a world that increasingly takes the WWW, its pages and the other documents we exchange in the electronic world as given - and knights Tim Berners-Lee without an understanding of the pre-WWW background of stateless client/server document architectures (e.g. Gopher) and hypertext (e.g. Xanadu) on which he built - there still beavers away a forgotten figure, Ted Nelson, eager to more fully achieve the original hypertext vision. In recent communications Nelson says: 'The tekkies have hijacked literature- with the best intentions, of course!-) - but now the humanists have to get it back. Nearly every form of electronic document- Word, Acrobat, HTML, XML- represents some business or ideological agenda. Many believe Word and Acrobat are out to entrap users; HTML and XML enact a very limited kind of hypertext with great internal complexity. All imitate paper and (internally) hierarchy. I propose a different document agenda: I believe we need new electronic documents which are transparent, public, principled, and freed from the traditions of hierarchy and paper. In that case they can be far more powerful, with deep and rich new interconnections and properties- able to quote dynamically from other documents and buckle sideways to other documents, such as comments or successive versions; able to present third-party links; and much more. Most urgently: if we have different document structures we can build a new copyright realm, where everything can be freely and legally quoted and remixed in any amount without negotiation.'"

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  1. New slashdot saying by zegebbers · · Score: 2, Funny

    RTFS (read the friendly summary) ? ;)

  2. I believe... by markov_chain · · Score: 5, Funny

    I believe we need new electronic documents which are transparent, public, principled, and freed from the traditions of hierarchy and paper.

    And I believe that I need 10 million dollars by noon tomorrow. Unfortunately, in both cases, there is a "2. ???" step that needs to be filled in.

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  3. Needs a catchy name... by Bazman · · Score: 1, Funny

    May I suggest Web 2.0! Ah no, that's taken. Lets skip version 2 and go straight to...

    Web 3.0!

    Baz

  4. It's happening behind the scenes right now. by TheBeardIsRed · · Score: 3, Funny

    The illuminati and masons have been working together/against each other for years to establish this "one world document."

  5. I have no idea what's going on by casualsax3 · · Score: 2, Funny

    That submission sounds like it was run through Babelfish a few times...

  6. TCML by cudaboy_71 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Gawd! you people. this is pure and simple Time Cube Markup Language. If you can't understand what it does, you are undoubtedly too stupid to ever use it. just continue on using your "web", luddites.

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  7. Re:Trans (complete text) by Ian_FBNS · · Score: 2, Funny

    Because at some point you have to start feeding the brain information in the linear, spoken format it's designed to interpret

    *cough* "it has evolved to interpret" please.

    carry on... ;)

  8. Re:Trans (complete text) by Superfarstucker · · Score: 2, Funny

    I propose we parallelize the task! All we need is a bit more wetware which can easily be accomplished via the euthanization of baby squirrels and another set of eyes, might as well make those eagle eyes while we're at it!

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