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ITunes Australia Goes Live

daria42 writes "ITunes Australia has finally gone live, after more than a year of waiting. Apple is holding a press conference in Sydney this morning to officially launch the service to the media, but the store has already opened. Like the Japanese ITunes store, it looks like Sony-BMG is not participating."

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  1. Frist P5ot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    You know what the sad thing is? This idiot editor ScuttleMonkey picked from an obviously massive number of iTunes Australia submissions the one that doesn't write iTunes correctly.

    GG SCUTTLEMONKEY! Want a free Ipod?

  2. Mod up dumbasses by FullCircle · · Score: 3, Informative

    Modding down the only people who TRY to RTFA?

    The URL is WRONG

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  3. Global store? by bugbeak · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm sure there are numerous world branches of just about every major record label out there. What's stopping Apple from running a global iTunes Music Store?

    1. Re:Global store? by akac · · Score: 3, Informative

      Simple - each record company is a single company but they operate separate divisions in each region and each division/branch deals with the copyrights in their own country.

    2. Re:Global store? by Phroggy · · Score: 5, Informative

      I'm sure there are numerous world branches of just about every major record label out there. What's stopping Apple from running a global iTunes Music Store?

      The record companies. The songs are licensed for sale in one country only. Apple would love to be able to offer their entire catalog to anybody anywhere, but the record companies won't allow that. They have to negotiate completely separate licensing agreements for each country.

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    3. Re:Global store? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If you're going to say something as stupid as "outdated business practices," you might as well go the full distance and put the blame where it really belongs: national sovereignty.

      See, different countries have different laws regarding taxation, contracts, royalties and licenses. If you buy a copy of the latest Limozeen album in Taiwan, the retailer has to handle the local taxes differently and the record company has to pay royalties differently than if you bought it in Topeka.

      Why? Because the people of Taiwan have decided that they want different laws than those the people of Kansas have.

      So really, the problem is sovereignty. If we could just conquer the world and force everybody to use the same laws, Apple would be able to have one big iTunes store.

      (Fucking idiot.)

    4. Re:Global store? by pookemon · · Score: 4, Funny

      Because we are "downunder" you have to invert the soundwaves so that they'll play correctly on our equipment.

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    5. Re:Global store? by SJ · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Which is where in Indies should really be pushing...

      "Here Apple, have our entire catalogue for world wide distribution."

      That has to make everyone happy.

    6. Re:Global store? by Phroggy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Says the record companies. When is a distribution company going to put the record companies in their place and do what what everybody wants?

      Um, yeah, well see, the record companies own the copyrights to the music people want to listen to, so distribution companies can't do anything.

      Unless, of course, a distribution company becomes a powerful monopoly, and the balance of power shifts because the record labels wouldn't be able to sell their music if that company refused to sell it. That's exactly what they're afraid of happening with Apple, which is why they're so reluctant to cooperate - they don't WANT Apple to become too successful, because that would mean Apple would become more powerful than they are.

      If it were anybody else, this wouldn't be hysterically funny, but think about it:

      Record companies are terrified of Apple becoming a monopoly.

      That just cracks me up.

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  4. I tried it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I tried it, but the songs were upside down.

  5. Mysterious future. by Xenex · · Score: 3, Interesting
    From: xenex@opinionstick.com
    Subject: [DP] ITunes Australia Goes Live
    Date: 25 October 2005 12:32:57 PM
    To: daddypants@slashdot .org

    The link is dead.

    http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/soa/iTunes_M usic_Store_comes_to_Australia/0,2000061733,3921879 8,00.htm seems to work though.

    The article comes up here just fine. Also, another interesting article: Apple: Our biggest competitor is P2P.
  6. iTunes store is helping legitimize online music by mattnuzum · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have a friend in India who says that he would use iTunes store if it were available, but because it isn't he simply uses peer-to-peer.

    As the iTunes store becomes available across the world it will help legitimize the online music industry. I think there are a lot of people in the world who don't have the option to go and buy the music they want to listen to. If they could, they would.

    Of course there are a lot of people who will jump at the opportunity to get something for free if they can, but no one is stopping these now, so it's not really the point. But if you give everyone the opportunity to pay for the music, many will. I think this is a good thing.

    Speaking of online music sales, I'm really looking forward to another price war. Come on guys, we need a legit iTunes competitor to drive down the prices!

    1. Re:iTunes store is helping legitimize online music by pintomp3 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      itunes prices aren't based on competition, but what the riaa charges. apple doesn't make much on the store, thier money comes from ipod sales. unless the riaa is going to take a smaller cut from a competitor, the competitor isn't going to be able to charge much less than itunes. i believe riaa gets 71/99 per track. not much room to undercut there.

  7. MacRumors coverage & personal retraction by The+Amazing+Fish+Boy · · Score: 4, Informative
    Well, the ZDNet story is down (-1 Redundant), but MacRumors.com has one up.

    Ahead of schedule, iTunes now provides an Australia link in the iTunes Music Store.

    Songs are being offered for $1.69 and videos for $3.39 (AUS). Rumors for iTunes Australia have been long whispered. Cited reasons for the long delay have included resistance from music labels.

    According to the most recent reports, Sony BMG has not signed on to the iTunes Australia launch.

    Official launch is expected on October 25th at a media conference in Sydney.

    [Image of Australia Option in iTMS]


    Looks like it's not variable pricing as I thought it might have been. Thus, I hereby retract my "Crikey!"
  8. No Sony-BMG = No Good by 246o1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This lack of participation is a Very Bad Thing for anyone who likes to buy digital music easily online. As a consumer in Japan, I have been much-thwarted in my attempts to buy songs I hear on the radio or wherever. Though iTunes is very convenient, I haven't spent any money on iTunes Japan because it's so crippled. Obviously, I don't think this is good for either Apple or Sony-BMG, and hopefully they work something out eventually.

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  9. Re:No Fair Use by TeraCo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Fair use is irrelevant here, as Apple have permission from the record companies to publish it in the relevant format.

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  10. Re:The correct URL is... by TheShadowHawk · · Score: 3, Informative

    No.. the correct URL for getting music is: http://www.allofmp3.com/. :)

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  11. In other news, Madonna . . . by weighn · · Score: 4, Funny
    . . . has begun buying all her tracks from iTunes in an effort to stop others from downloading them.

    A spokeswoman from Warner, Maverick's parent company, declined to comment.

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  12. Apple, how about NZ? by mdew · · Score: 4, Insightful

    how about Itunes service that includes NZ too?

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  13. Re:True fans don't rip off their artists. by weighn · · Score: 4, Funny
    True fans don't rip off their artists.

    That's right, Jim. We leave that up to Sony.
    Badda-ching!! I got more, I got more...

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  14. It's a shame there's no Sony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Cause we won't be able to download the lastest Australian Idol releases...wait did I say shame?

  15. Important positions being taken here by amichalo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So Sony won't allow Apple to sell their tunes library, (about a quarter of the big five's recorded music), in Japan and now Australia/New Zeland. interesting. And ABC (Disney) is the only TV network willing to sell their TV Shows, Pixar only willing to debut a few (very cool) shorts.

    This is very important everyone. the content providers are VERY SCARED. First they were scared the medium wouldn't be popular enough to thwart file sharing, now they are scared it is SO POPULAR it will thwart their very role in distribution!

    I for one welcome the medium - The quality of "Lost" is totally acceptable for the price and download time, actual movies should only be provided in a hgher quality though.

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  16. New Zealanders Feel Left Out... by Traegorn · · Score: 4, Interesting

    New Zealanders who feel left out are apparently lying to Apple and getting songs anyway...

  17. Re:Mistakes a plenty... by NineNine · · Score: 3, Funny

    cAlm dOwn, fAnboy. aPple dOesn't rEad sLashdot. nO bRownie pOints fOr pRosletyzing hEre.

  18. interview CD Baby behind-the-scenes iTunes AU by linuxbaby · · Score: 4, Informative
    My company is one of the main providers of music to iTunes worldwide.

    Knowing that iTunes Australia was launching, I did an interview with AppleTalk Australia that tells a little bit more behind-the-scenes stuff, in case you're interested.

    I'm glad this is finally up-and-running. Australia has a great independent music scene (as I spoke more about in previous Slashdot comment).

  19. Re:Suicidal pricing by GaryPatterson · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The price is steep compared to the US, but the message should not be to stay with physical media. We're seeing more and more "copy-controlled" discs these days, and they just don't rip so easily.

    Also, despite parallel imports being around for ten years or so, I still see new release discs at $25-$35, much higher than the iTMS album price of $16.99. I think the music industry would absolutely *love* it if only physical media were sold and the Internet distribution model failed.

    I'm going to give iTMS a good go and buy music from there. I'm no audiophile, and I think the sound quality is very good (except for some music with higher-pitched harmonics, but that's not so common).

    I'll also investigate other options like emusic, which I'd never heard of before this topic came up. I absolutely won't buy anything in WMA format though (not so hot on the iBook), so my options are not huge.

  20. Re:No Fair Use by mmj638 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It is true that there isn't a 'fair use policy' in Australia equivalent to the US. However, this has nothing to do with lack of Australian TiVO models. We have plenty of personal video recorders, both for free-to-air and pay (cable) TV. Most of those are more permissive than the TiVO - we have no broadcast flag issue here, and we can freely copy files from PVRs to computers via USB. As for why TiVO doesn't seem to be available here, you'd have to ask them about it. They probably have their own reasons for not producing an Australian model.

  21. Get an overseas bank account by GrahamCox · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I have been downloading from iTunes to Australia for well over a year, because I have a UK bank account as well as an Australian one. The choice from the UK store is probably better than the Australian offering at the moment anyway. Apple doesn't care where your IP address is from, they only check that your credit card is registered in the territory that the music store is located in. This seems to work around the regional disaster that is the record industry quite neatly. In fact, I'd say it makes a mockery of the whole regional distribution model, and really it's about time that the record industry realised that it needs to wake up and smell the coffee as far as globalisation is concerned. As for any tracks I still can't get legally? Well, there's always Acquisition...

  22. Re:No Fair Use by YoungOzLawyer · · Score: 4, Informative
    How on earth is this moderated informative?

    Australia has no "Fair Use Policy" laws

    Howabout Div 3 of Part III of the Copyright Act 1968 (Cth)? - scroll down to the appropriate point on this page http://scaleplus.law.gov.au/html/pasteact/0/244/to p.htm and have a read as to what is permitted as "fair dealing" under Australian law.

    so far there has been no test case

    This is just wrong. There have been cases about fair dealing and so forth since the Act was encated. Try this link http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinocgi.cgi/au?m ethod=boolean&rank=on&query=ca1968133%20s40 if you're really interested.

    This is the reason TiVO has not been introduced to Australia.

    I would suggest that there are several reasons TiVO has not been introduced, such as:

    - only 5 free to air channels
    - no free cable, encrypted pay TV
    - no electronic program guide
    - TV stations who persist on not running to time
    - different video standard (PAL not NTSC)

    It's certainly not the law - which hasn't prevented VCRs from flourishing (albeit they reisde in a somewhat grey area) - but more likely a question of economics.

    It is illegal to record any TV show that is not being broadcast live to air

    In fact its UNLAWFUL (but not illegal) to record a TV show at all (except in the case of fair dealing, and other exceptions I wont go into now) whether broadcast or not.

    But the distiction between unlawful and illegal is an important one. Unlawful means that the TV station or distributor or somebody has to come sue you for infringing upon their copyright. No jail time. Illegal means that somethings is a crime - the copyright holder just has to notify the cops, they can pick you up and you might face jail time (although now is not the time to go into criminal sentencing procedure).

    It is also illegal to rip cds to MP3

    Again, it's unlawful, but not illegal.

    Apple have finally taken the chance, which is good to see.

    I would suggest that this is not, in fact, a chance or risk for Apple. Australians are high per-capita purchasers of music. It is guaranteed profit which will also drive the iPod market with a legal source of downloads. Apple has only "waited" so long because the record labels in Australia have been absolute asses to deal with. Sony BMG is still not on board.

    Hopefully none of the recording labels will launch a lawsuit

    This is the bit that gets me most... it is the labels WHO ARE COOPERATING WITH APPLE TO ALLOW APPLE TO SELL THEIR MUSIC. The labels would be, in effect, SUING THEMSELVES. This will not happen.