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White House Cease & Desists to The Onion
raj2569 writes "You might have thought that the White House had enough on its plate late last month, what with its search for a new Supreme Court nominee, the continuing war in Iraq and the C.I.A. leak investigation. But it found time to add another item to its agenda - stopping The Onion (soul sucking, life sapping, irritating, obnoxious, but still free registration), the satirical newspaper, from using the presidential seal." The only joke here is that our tax dollars are being spent on this.
I say we hold a contest for designing Onion's Next White House seal.. I say it shoudl picture Bush on a Jackass backwards as the seal..
Fred Grott(aka shareme) http://mobilebytes.wordpress.com
What's the bigger joke is that liberals believe all of that, and yet still couldn't field a competent candidate to beat his reelection.
It's sad how irrelevant the Democrats have become, and how ineffectual the current leftist elite are.
Here's a hint, you guys will never win if you keep up the self-hating America schtick. Time to move on.
There is a profound and important distinction in the use of the presidential seal (which by the way belongs to all Americans - yes, even us liberals) for the purpose of political satire, which is exactly the kind of speech that the founding fathers sought to protect in the first amendment versus its use in a purely commercial communication. I agree that using the presidential seal in commercial communications is not in the country's best interest and should be severly curtailed or disallowed entirely. On the other hand using it satirically as the Onion has done is absolutely in the country's best interest, because the ability to criticize our leaders is one of the many things that make us free.
I might add, Bush was voted into office once by a majority of eligible voters. The first time he was voted in by 5 of 9 elderly folks in robes. The second time around the key words are "eligible voters", being that his buddy Karl and the rest of the quacks did everything they could to reduce the number of eligible voters by fraud, intimidation, and massive communal inconvenience.
The majority of the people (as opposed to eligible voters) in this country haven't voted anyone into office in a long time.
Brilliant denial of the facts there genius! I guess denying reality is what Republicans do best these days, because lets face it reality really sucks for Republicans right about now.
Happy Fitzmas!!!
"Lying about extra-marital sex is done on a regular basis by men and women all across our great country every day. It's as quintessentially American as Mom and Apple Pie."
And it's still a LIE, and it was still UNDER OATH, and it was still a CRIME.
He wasn't in trouble because he lied about getting a hummer, he was in trouble because of WHO he lied to and WHEN he did it.
How sad are you though, that you think it's ok that he lied? How fucking pathetic.
"The governor and mayor did everything possible with the resources at their disposal"
Then why were all of those school buses lined up waiting, but never got used?
Oh, right, you're a liar.
Now, whether that's because you're too stupid to see you're being lied to (that's where my money is) or you just refuse to admit it, you're still wrong.
Stop lying, you'll feel less sleazy, and you won't have to hide when honest people try to talk to you.
"Also, Clinton didn't personally profit from his military adventures, unlike the current administration."
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BWAHAHAHAAHAHA.
BWAHAHAAHAHAAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA.
First, are you Clinton's accountant? Then there's no way you could possibly know this. Second, you honestly believe that a PRESIDENT with all the knowledge of that office, and Clinton's obvious lack of scruples, wouldn't use that information for personal gain?
BWAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAAhAAHAAAHAHAAH.
"Your entire movement is morally bankrupt and incompetent. Your guys even make Clinton look good, and that takes some doing."
You left out engage in ad hominem attacks. Oh, wait I get it, if you'd said that then YOU couldn't do it, like you just did there.
"And when some righty lies about national security it's ok because
Clinton did it first, and you guys said it was ok then. Good for the goose and all..
Seriously, if you plan to play at partisan politics, do a better job of picking sides. Both of them are dirty, and idiotic rants only highlight how stupid partisans like you can be.
Plame (or Plame-Wilson, whichever you like) was an agent under non-official cover, which is a little different from being "undercover". It's a little more dangerous, actually, since the US would disavow any knowledge of her relationship to the agency in the event of her capture. Most covert agents at the agency carry the black passport, which entitles them to the protections normally accorded to diplomats. Mrs. Wilson carries the same blue passport that you and I do.
The paper-pushing you're talking about occurred at a CIA brass-plate business called Brewster-Jennings, an ersatz energy-research firm that was building relationships with wealthy Arabs to try and get information (build contacts) relating to the acquisition of weapons of mass destruction in muslim nations.
There has been no assertion by anyone that Mrs. Wilson lied. I don't recall seeing any mention in the 9/11 commission report of Mrs. Wilson having lied about anything (I have the hardcopy), though I have seen it said on a few shrill right-wing blogs.
There has been no assertion that Mr. Wilson lied. In fact, Mr. Wilson was the head of the US mission in Iraq prior to Gulf War I, and was singularly responsible for getting all of the diplomatic staff safely out of the country prior to the bombing campaign. George H.W. Bush appointed him, and commended him for his service to the nation. Mr. Wilson was the ambassador to a number of African nations (incuding Niger) and had the necessary contacts to assess the credibility of the yellowcake claim. He discovered the claim was false (it was based on a document passed along by a less-than-reputable informant, and the document was determined to be a forgery) and reported that up the chain prior (by a month, as I recall) to the President's State of the Union address.
Please do your homework.
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I rarely read replies, it's my opinion and if you thought about your opinion a little more, I'm OK with that.
"The school buses weren't used because the evacuation had never gone right before. What good are school buses that are locked in a traffic jam?"
See, here's the part where you go "Oh, wait, that guy was making the point that LOCAL officials screwed up, and evacuation is the responsibility of LOCAL officials, so it was the fault of the LOCAL officials that the LOCAL evacuation plan was messed up".
At which point, I will thank you for making my point, and call you a scholar and a gentleman.
"A court of law has the strictest definitions for lying and he didn't break them."
That's great!
"I love the way people have no grasp of"... the difference between a court of law and congress.
"A court of law has the strictest definitions for lying and he didn't break them."
OOOOOH! You did it, you tried to make a lucid point, then completely fudged it. How can you be credible when you can't even intelligently discuss the venue? What possible insight could you have if you don't know enough about the situation to even know where the hearings were?
"First off, yes, it is a crime to leak the name of an undercover agent (or any other classified information) regardless of intent."
No, it is not.
So, apart from this obvious and easily disproven lie, is there anything that in your post that isn't a deliberate falsehood?
You've lost all credibility, so I would have to assume you lie about everything.
Watching this administration try to cover all bases in order to protect itself is the Greatest Show on Earth (tm). Oops, that's Barnum & Bailey's trademark but it applies here.
This administration is a circus. No getting around it. I think the main reason they object to the seal is because the radio addresses that the Onion produces are dead on. They gave myself and my co-workers a good laugh.
"Well, you already called me a liar"
You are.
I wasn't apologizing. I never said anyhting to idicate I was, so this is simply more evidence of something I already suspected.
You're an imbecile.
Here's how I deduced that.
First,some moronic liar (YOU, in case you were wondering)made the (false) claim that
"The governor and mayor did everything possible with the resources at their disposal"
With me so far? Good, I'll talk slowfor you.
Next, I refuted that lie by asking about a resourcethat was not used, but wasatthe disposal of said governor and mayor. When I questioned the moronic liar (YOU, again in case you are having trouble following) the reply was
"The school buses weren't used because the evacuation had never gone right before. What good are school buses that are locked in a traffic jam?"
My answer would be for moving people, but I'm not a moronic liar. Nowthis next part seems to be where it got too complicated for our little moronic liar (still YOU by the way) as said moronic liar, for some reason couldn't understand that a failed LOCAL evcuation plan, and failure to use resources that were freely available during the storm, is the fault of LOCAL officials. THEY fialed to make the plan work. Not the feds, but your precious mayor and guvnuh. Our littlemoron did not appreciate that he had claimed (lied) in one post about the gov and mayor doing everything they could, while in the VERY NEXT POST giving an example of something they DID NOT DO but could have.
Did you follow that? I realize it requires our moron (yes, still YOU) to actually think, but there's a first time for everything, this might as well be it.
"how's about next time there's a cat 5 hurricane barreling our way you shag your own fat ass down to NOLA and show us how it's done, 'k?"
Well, since I live in CENTRAL FLORIDA, where we get hit with more hurricanes than New Orleans has welfare recipients, I could most certainly lend my expertise.
How's it feel to pick the one area of the country that you can't use that pathetic little trick on?
But I am sure our little moron would continue to deny the facts laid before him, in an effort to, well fuck I don't know what. Our moron (YOU still, do I have to keep reminding you?) seems to have a grudge with one group of politicians, while letting the others off the hook. I think that's because our moron is too stupid to understand they ALL screwed him, and he hasn'tfigured out he's been lied to yet.
SO, now that I've laid it out for you, do yourself a favor. Learn how to read for comprehension, then thank me. I don't usually give free lessons like this.