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Google Summer of Code Results
Nattfodd writes "Almost two months after the projects, deadline, partial (but fairly complete) results of Google Summer of Code are here. The completion rate of projects (and thus payment of the students) was approximately 90%, which would certainly qualify for a 'huge success' of the operation. Summer of Code paid more than 400 students of 49 countries to spend their summer helping open-source projects, 4500$ on completion. Now we just have to wait for the T-shirts..."
Its a nice thing for Google to try to do, but who were they really targeting at that pay range? A decent summer internship in CS pays 2-4 times that much.
They didn't accept my VB entry?!
That was sucessful. Lets follow it up with a winter of code, and give the OSS world a christmas present
Is 400 bigger than a Google?
Meta will eat itself
$4500. No problem.
Note to self: get smarter troll to guard door.
Get the next iteration of programmers comfortable with their tools and API's.
I'm suspecting the future is going to smell like AJAX...
Also, while barely literate, I'm pretty sure that dollar sign goes before the ammount...
Yes Francis, the world has gone crazy.
4500$!...geez!
Scott McNealy to Michael: "Suck my Sun!" Michael Dell to Scott : "Lick my Dell!"
Percentage of summer of code participants getting laid: 0%
I'll form my OWN solar system! With blackjack! And hookers!
I scanned through the list and am intrigued by the demographics. I was surprised that there weren't a few more women. I always knew that programming was dominated by men, but I didn't realize it would be that far skewed. The shop I work in is primarily COBOL and we have a good percentage of women working here. Perhaps that skewed my perception.
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It's like a "Who's Who" list of who's not American.
$4500 for a summer of work ->
Summer = 12 weeks
1 work week = 40 hours
Total = 480 hours per summer
BEFORE taxes, this is $9.30 / hour.
I can make more at McDonald's especially considering meals are discounted 75%.
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I don't even have that limited of bandwidth and I would like to see this mod in production. Very needed code IMHO.
This is what I have been waiting for since the dawn of time. Well, not that long, but I have always wondered when I would be able to mount remote file systems via secure shell.
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The list of projects says "Please note that this page contains a sampling and not a complete listing of the projects done as part of the Summer of Code."
The MozDev (related to Mozilla / Firefox) projects missing from the list are:
- Cockatoo: SIP phone extension for Mozilla Thunderbird
http://cockatoo.mozdev.org/
- Firepuddle: BitTorrent P2P for Mozilla
http://firepuddle.mozdev.org/
- Event Loger (An advanced macro and testcase creation tool for Firefox)
http://eventlogger.mozdev.org/
- Muzzled: graphical theme builder for mozilla
http://muzzled.mozdev.org/
- Vietnamese translation of Firefox
http://vi.mozdev.org/
At college most of the women went into chemical engineering, or varients (geological, biological, and there was one other which I can't remember). I don't know why more women don't care to program, but low stats for women doesn't surprise me a bit.
Genius is one percent inspiration and 99 percent perspiration, which is why engineers sometimes smell really bad.
Math may not lie, but people can misrepresent what's going on.
Google didn't pay these people anything. Rather, it provided grants/scholarships to people interested in working on open source code. People (coders and/or organizations) submitted proposals for ideas they wanted to work on, and Google selected some worthy ones that they would give extra money to, so as to encourage students to spend time doing some open-source coding.
Google was not hiring these people to work on specific projects that get added to the portfolio of Google products. Everyone involved could have turned down the grant money if they had a better offer. But for these students, who would have likely worked on these (or other) open-source projects over the summer anyway (to bolster their CV and/or because it's fun), the grant was probably a welcome bonus.
Everyone benefits from the open-source software that has been produced by these (partially funded) volunteers. Remember that the people working on these projects were contributing to open-source projects that are, by and large, non-commercial. That is, the summer-of-code people got $4500, whereas everyone else working on the project got $0. They are doing it because they want to. It is not a (traditional) job.
"I coded open-source software all summer, and all I got was $4500 and this lousy T-shirt" ??
So I noticed mod_smtpd in there.
Is there some corollary to the well known quote like "Every daemon attempts to expand until it can schlep mail" that I'm not aware of?
So the average GSoC participant worked on their project 40 hours a week? Can I see where you got these statistics please?
Even if you're right...
$9/hr is 75% (thats (9.00-5.15)/5.15*100% ) increase over minimum wage. Maybe to you that is "scant" more than minimum wage. But to someone who's never had a job or has only had minimum wage type jobs, it's not scant at all.
You say mathematics don't lie. However, I fail to see you actaully use any mathematics to prove your point.
Also it seems you left out a few obvious things like:
- Working at Walmart sucks ass.
- Working for one of the GSoC project might be fun and a good learning experience.
- The GSoC project will look good on your resume.
- Working at a fast food place or as a cashier won't get you coding experience.
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*don't feed the trolls, don't feed the trolls*... bah. I'll bite and reply.
If you remember anything about the article from 6 weeks ago that you posted a link to, then you would remember that it was extremely thin as far as details went. Did you look at many of the projects when it was "officially over"? If you had, you would remember that a quite a number of them hadn't turned in their final versions yet, nor had they turned in their final reports (and if they had finished/turned in the report, then it wasn't available yet for public access, it had only been turned into their project supervisors).
If you went to college, then maybe you remember that college students have a "habit" of turning stuff in at or after the deadline? The SOC was no different. That's why you don't get your grade results until a week or two *after* it's over. It takes time to figure out what-the-heck-happened during the flurry that was the deadline.
You would have preferred this in a slashback then? Perhaps -- I for one was glad to see this, and I look forward to more updates as this list is completed. It will be good to see some more information about the results of the SOC, and what can be changed to improve it in the future.
There was plenty of new information in this new article, after having read both of them, I frankly don't see what you're griping about.
Next time, complain about a legitimate dupe. If things are as bad as you say they are, then you should have no trouble finding a real one.
It's amazing that google gives away 2 million dollars to benefit the open source community and you complain because it wasn't enough. ;) and the money would have been nice- but more importantly the Summer of Code really got me to look at some of the neat programs that still need to be written, the interesting things that still need to be contributed. I've always wanted to do more to contribute to open source, but I found it exceedingly hard to figgure out where to jump in. The Summer of Code helped a lot of people like me, projects accepted or not, by showing how we can get started helping the community that has built so much great software that we use every day.
The Summer of Code wasn't a job. Google did not higher people to write code for them and play them only $9/hour.
Google instead offered students a chance to do some work with real OSS applications and to work with people who have experience developing with the OSS applications. They also gave each person who finished their project $4500 and $500 to the mentor (I think the mentor got the money regardless of if the coder finished his or her project or not) as a sort of bonus for perseverence.
The Summer of Code was sort of like a big round of bounties for code, except instead of deciding before hand what to put a bounty on they let the developers come up with ideas and then they picked the best ones.
Unfortunately none of the three applications I put in for the Summer of Code were accepted (and I will try to keep the bitterness toward the people who did complete their projects to a minimum
(And by the way, I am working on one of the programs that I had originally submitted in an application, and IDE/Front End and Debugger for QCL, the idea being a way for non-physisist programmers to ease into learning about development on quantum computers. I hope to have an early release done sometime soon).
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The Google Summer of Code fitted in with northern hemisphere student
r chterm=bounty
timetables.. what about Southern Hemisphere students?
- South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, Indonesia, Brazil, New Zealand,
and Brazil (no particular order, and by no means exclusive) are some of the
countries that would have students that could participate.
Maybe Canonical/Ubuntu could run a Southern Hemisphere Summer of Code?
or, in the spirit of open source and open markets, southern hemisphere students
can hook into Ubuntu's bounty program.
http://www.ubuntu.com/community/bounties/view?sea
A 'do it yourself' summer of code... anyone want to sponsor the T-shirts?
The Summer of Code wasn't a job
Aye, thank you! Google was just offering money as an incentive for people (students) to do volunteer work! I mean c'mon, it's really win win. Even if obviously google chose projects that they were mostly interested in, they mated alot of CS students with making real contributions to open source projects (how many folks do you know that would like to do something but are just to shy or unmotivated to take the first step to volunteer?).
To summarize:
* Tons of extra progress made in a myriad of OSS projects
* A whole bunch of students got some spending money to *volunteer*
* These students are very likely to continue volunteering now that they have taken that first step
* Alot of volunteers have a really awesome addition to their resume
* Those same folks now have their foot in the door at Google
* Google gets some of their favorite projects worked on, develop further goodwill with the OSS community, and they set an awesome example to the business community.
Heck, next folks will be complaining about the peace core paying too little...
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