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Remote Control for Humans?

FatMacDaddy writes "The SFGate is reporting on a remote control for manipulating humans through electrical stimulation of the inner ear nerves.The author of this article describes his experience with having a "remote control for humans" device used on him. The developers hope to use this with video games and other entertainment, but it might also be used as a weapon to disable people. An interesting read with perhaps some disturbing implications. Better get a second layer on those tinfoil hats!"

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  1. Sure... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I guess it could be used as a weapon... if you could convince everyone to wear the required head-gear all the time...

    1. Re:Sure... by thej1nx · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Don't be so sure. I would imagine that at least in the army, they can definitely make an implant mandatory, citing its use as a disciplinary device.

    2. Re:Sure... by MrRuslan · · Score: 3, Informative

      Remote Control of Humans and other animals is possible without any implants VIA ELF radiation and other less noticeable means.

    3. Re:Sure... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Why don't you wear it voluntarily? It lets us protect you against terrorists. You're not a terrorist, are you?

    4. Re:Sure... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Remote Control of Humans and other animals is possible without any implants VIA ELF radiation and other less noticeable means.

      Grrrr. Those darn Elves!

    5. Re:Sure... by Associate · · Score: 2

      Just pay a few people to wear them on Mtv.
      That would more than convince many people to wear one.

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    6. Re:Sure... by Hal_Porter · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So we're all gonna get drafted and mod chipped and sent to invade Syria for Haliburton.

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    7. Re:Sure... by Foobar+of+Borg · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This is exactly how an army was controlled in Kurt Vonnegut's Sirens of Titan. A remote controlled helmet would receive signals from a controller that force you to do things like strangle one of you friends, through muscle control. I thought it was really neat that one of his first books (I think it was the first) was actually a science fiction novel, rather than what you normally expect from Vonnegut.

    8. Re:Sure... by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 3, Funny

      In Soviet Russia, YOU control government officials!

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    9. Re:Sure... by btarval · · Score: 2, Informative

      Of course! They're called girlfriends/wives.

      Hmmm. Given the crowd here, perhaps that IS news for Slashdot. ;)

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  2. women have had this for years. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    they're called breasts.

    1. Re:women have had this for years. by HermanAB · · Score: 5, Funny

      A remote control to control breasts? That is called a diamond, but be warned, it seems to wear out over time, it is not forever...

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    2. Re:women have had this for years. by zxnos · · Score: 5, Funny

      you need to recharge the batteries in the remote with additional diamonds, birthstones, gold, silver, china, etc... just like any other rechargeable battery, the charge is shorter each time...

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    3. Re:women have had this for years. by LiquidMind · · Score: 5, Funny

      us guys have one too!

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    4. Re:women have had this for years. by th0rium · · Score: 2, Funny

      I like how the remote has a button that says "Pretend Orgasm"... hahahaha

    5. Re:women have had this for years. by bclark · · Score: 5, Funny

      Anyone else scared to click that link?

    6. Re:women have had this for years. by GreekPimpSlap · · Score: 2, Funny
      "just like any other rechargeable battery, the charge is shorter each time..."

      tell that to my credit card !

  3. 404...conspiracy theories begin! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Obligatory Family Guy quote follows:

    Stewie: Good day, shopkeep.
    Chris: Good day shopkeep, I require a hand-operated buzzsaw capable of cutting through a human sternum.
    Shopkeep: What?
    Chris: It's for a school project, I'm some sort of student sent here for... oh blast what the devil do they study? uh... Latin class.
    Shopkeep: Uhh, sorry kid, I can't sell power tools to minors.
    Chris: Now look here you gore-bellied codpiece. Allow me to purchase the provisions I demand or I'll form your blue collar into a red one and-
    Who the deuce are you? No I don't have any spare change. Where the hell would I keep it? In my diaper? Get out of here you hobo. Oh bloody hell, is this thing still on?

    1. Re:404...conspiracy theories begin! by chrome · · Score: 2, Informative

      Uh, you're kidding right?

      Even if you're didn't see that episode, it wouldn't take a rocket scientist to work out that Stewie was using a mind control device on Chris.

      Duuuuuh!!!!!!! :)

  4. Disturbing implications indeed... by Fermatprime · · Score: 5, Funny

    "An interesting read with perhaps some disturbing implications." I'll say - what if you lose it?

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  5. Nothing New by lenmaster · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wives had had this for their husbands for years now.

  6. Wetware hacking?? by yamamushi · · Score: 3, Informative

    Sounds a little too much like, http://www.hackcanada.com/homegrown/wetware/ to me. However, its not so much remote, you have to be sitting right in front of the device, literally wearing it. But it opens your eyes to the implications.

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  7. my day by d1a1v1e · · Score: 5, Funny

    Back in my day we used to use remote controles on cars.

  8. This reminds me of... by jgartin · · Score: 3, Funny

    That episode of Star Trek where those aliens steal Spock's brain. Scotty rigs up a remote control for Spock's body and they all beam down to the planet to search for it. Just goes to show you that all important modern tech was first shown on Star Trek.

  9. My word... by mozingod · · Score: 4, Funny

    Imagine the implications of this with the adult entertainment industry!

    Now that's entertainment!

  10. question by NoGuffCheck · · Score: 4, Funny

    Does it have a volume control? Can you calobrate it to my girlfriend? How soon can you get it to me? and here's all my money!

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  11. Re:this one's quite a scare by rco3 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Evil, sure - but who are you calling a genius?

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  12. Head movements by saskboy · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Better get a second layer on those tinfoil hats!"

    Or just don't put on the headgear that controls you.

    Either way, I'm not going to work at any job that requires me to wear this remote control, unless it's wireless. Wearing headgear all day with a wire attached would probably give me a sore neck by causing restricted head movements.

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  13. Obligatory... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I, for one, welcome our new inner-ear remote-control overlords.

    1. Re:Obligatory... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      But they made you say that, didn't they?

  14. That would have been handy... by Funakoshi · · Score: 3, Funny

    A mute button for the folks would have been handy when I was a teenager...I'd be a much better guitar player today...

  15. confirmed dupe by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 4, Informative
  16. This could be taken to an extreme... by Daedalus-Ubergeek · · Score: 2, Funny

    I mean just wait till the BSDM community gets hold of this!

  17. VAPOR-FUQIN-WARE by Khyber · · Score: 3, Funny

    Sony had something similar, but not as capable, as this a year or so back. And it's still vaporware, unless "They're working out bugs."

    Forget the second tinfoil layer, people. Be content in the fact that until you willingly strap a device to your head, you're safe.

    Ignore the fact that I'm drunk right now, but I will *NEVER* put one of these things on my head. I'll stick with "subliminal messages thru sneaky frames included in films.

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    1. Re:VAPOR-FUQIN-WARE by slashbob22 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Vapourware indeed. In fact, I hear it is to be included in Duke Nukem Forever.

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    2. Re:VAPOR-FUQIN-WARE by bradkittenbrink · · Score: 2, Funny

      Forget the second tinfoil layer, people. Be content in the fact that until you willingly strap a device to your head, you're safe.

      My feelings exactly, besides, these aren't the droids I was looking for anyways...

  18. there's old analog tech that does it better... by wherrera · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Consider the effects of a gun at your back, or even the slave driver's whip :-/

    1. Re:there's old analog tech that does it better... by Reziac · · Score: 2, Interesting

      But you could choose to defy the gun or the whip (albeit with potentially dire consequences; nonetheless, the choice still exists). You might not be physically *able* to defy this gizmo.

      If such a device were available in a high-powered, long-range model (defined as a few hundred metres) then crowd control might be possible whether the crowd consented to be controlled or not -- just make them all wobble off in the desired direction.

      Warfare becomes a matter of "He with the strongest broadcast, and/or the best tinfoil hats, wins".

      Bank being robbed? No problem, just turn on the brain buzzer and make everyone in the building fall helpless to the floor. Then when the tinfoil-hat-equipped cops arrive, they can sort out the perps from the customers. Of course, smart crooks soon arm themselves not with guns, but rather with tinfoil hats.

      Meanwhile, some folk hit by these brain-buzzers are permanently damaged, and spend the rest of their days careening in circles.

      Farfetched, yeah, but such are the logical extensions, given sufficient broadcast power.

      Best of all, chainmail headgear could come back in fashion!

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  19. Related Article by SpaceAdmiral · · Score: 3, Informative

    Scientific American had a very interesting article on the history of this sort of thing. Unfortunately, you probably have to pay for that article if you don't already subscribe.

  20. Wha--?! by werewolf1031 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Daaaamn, and here I thought I was simply drunk and listening to headphones...

    You mean that's NOT Corrosion of Conformity in my head?!

  21. weaponization unlikely by EngMedic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    in order to weaponize this system, you'd have to figure out how to attatch electrodes behind the lobes of someone's ears at range -- and i challenge anyone to figure out how to do THAT. As it stands, vestibular stim is a cool new idea on how to improve balance control in risky environments (high iron construction workers faced with strong winds?), or the elderly and people with some form of vestibular impairment. I know of at least once case of essentially permanent dizziness, in which the patient suffered an accident that took out half of the vestibular system, so he is only getting feedback from one side of his body.

    As a student at one of the big universities where balance control and vestibular control is studied -- let me be the first to say that all of this is HIGHLY alpha. At best, it's proof-of-concept only. I wouldn't be worried about being "remote controlled" -- but hey, add this to a VR sim and things might get better than the crappy sim software/hardware that we've had since the mid90's -- or do some of the stuff i mentioned above.

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    1. Re:weaponization unlikely by slavemowgli · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It might not be usable as a weapon really, but it could conceivably be used on prisoners, for example. Or, for that matter, on suspects who're not willing to cooperate during an interrogation.

      I'm not sure about you, but I feel distinctly uncomfortable with both these scenarios.

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    2. Re:weaponization unlikely by Anti_Climax · · Score: 2, Funny

      You realize all this does is mess with your balance by stimulating the nerves for your inner ear, Right? This isn't mind control. I don't think you'd get much from an interrogation with something like "Tell us what we want to know or we'll make you lean to one side"

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  22. Remote Control? by faqmaster · · Score: 3, Insightful

    We should get the whole 'local control' thing down first.

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  23. I saw this at Siggraph this year by wbattestilli · · Score: 3, Informative

    Didn't try it because of the really long line. It was probably the coolest thing in the Emerging Technologies area. Anyway...basically it can make you drift left or right while walking by messing with your sense of balance ( inner ear ). People were dramatically affected at first but many people were able to compensate after only a few seconds. While cool, it is hardly as dramatic as the article would suggest.

  24. Re:Headline phrasing? by ozmanjusri · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yeah, I parsed this thing as "Remote Control [designed] for Humans." I was thinking "Great! Finally I can program that VCR."
    Sadly, it's just another tool for turning excess humans into golems. Sigh.

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  25. in defense of the foil by apt_user · · Score: 5, Funny
    Please, I beg you all, stop making sarcastic remarks about the healthful benefits of alluminum foil headwear. Such devices are proven to be effective protection against a variety of stressors - both theoretical and non - which could cause irreversible damage to our inner cortexes, including but not limited to: electrostatic radiation, photonic radiation (both below and above the visible spectrum), direct sunlight, sonic intonations, unvoiced alveolar fricatives, exosolar radiation, sublunar electrostaticity, supraterrestrial automotive frustration, undefined free radicals, affective spherical earth rhetoric, ectoplasmic goo, artificial nonterrestrial mental affectae, habeus corpus, quantum relativity, venetian sausage, psychological longitudinal surveys, cathode ray tube emissions (both dynamic and static), retrograde motion, reversed cognitive flotation, vulcan mind melds, social mobility, dyslexic antithetical mythology, imablance of the four humors, dentistry, meeting the love of your life, recieving a darwin award, overseasonned exotic foods, strongbad's email, end-user liscence aggreements, and ketchup.

    Please take the time to consider these and other reasons to treat alluminum foil as a reasonable, effective form of alternative preventitive medicine for everyone's mental well-being.

    -apt

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  26. Not a second layer by fireman+sam · · Score: 3, Funny

    You just need to fashon a tinfoil had that has those very attractive ear flaps.

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  27. It's official, humans are property. by elucido · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Remote control allows for more efficiently slavery.

  28. Tinfoil hats are mind-control antennas! by Temporal · · Score: 3, Funny

    Research done at MIT shows that tinfoil hats actually amplify government mind control beams. Because they are not fully enclosed, they actually end up acting as a sort of antenna. Yes, that's right: Wearing a tinfoil hat is exactly what the shadow government wants you to do!

  29. I think I have one of these.. by ehrichweiss · · Score: 4, Interesting
    no seriously...I do. Back a few years ago there was an invention that was released called MotionWare aka Virtual Motion. It worked with 3 electrodes: one on your forehead and 2 on the mastoid process, that boney region behind your ears(sound familiar?). It affects the inner ear. Forward, backward, left, right, and if the visuals were good, up and down. There were apparently less than 100 prototypes built...I have one. Often thought of selling it to someone who would use it better than I since my original plan fell through. I might be glad I kept it.

    I did get an interesting effect from it: due to the high resistance of my skin I have to turn the device WAY up to get any response and during the strongest pulses, I saw flashes of light that were not present outside of my optic nerve(it wasn't arcing in other words).

    Anyway, as I read the article, it's less about remote control humans and more about being able to affect what they are feeling which is scary but with this version they'd have to sneak up on you and covertly put these things on your skull...with good electrode contact..and probably lube to prevent burning. If it does use the same technology as what I have then you need to know that there are 3 different ways(at least) that we sense motion and the inner ear is only one. The other two are visual and the type of feeling you get in your joints when you accelerate on, say, a bus; this is aka proprioceptive I think. If they didn't have something that would give you a slightly harder time to keep your balance(we used the Tempurpedic(tm) memory foam because it shifts acording to the weight and temperature. Without this, you don't feel any shift in your joints so if your visual environment didn't move either, you'd mostly discard the signal. It's because of the "rule" of 'virtual reality': you have to fool 2 of the 3 ways we sense motion for the brain to accept it as real. And despite all this, with a slight amount of concentration, you can see through the illusion. Maybe what they have is different..I'll have to research to find out now.

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  30. movie by defMan · · Score: 3, Informative

    I saw this some time ago (august 5) on Engadget. That story also linked to a movie of a remote controlled girl.

    Enjoy.

  31. Homebuilt Galvanic Vestibular Stimulation Devices by Bandwidth_ · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Most anyone (here (I'd hope)) can build a working galvanic vestibulator in their home for under $5. It's just a 0.1hz~70hz squarewave sinking ~20 milliamps of current through your neck. You can easily do that with a 555 in astable mode (R1=2kOhm,R2=26kOhm,C=.1uF--it'll have a frequency of about 27hz and a duty cycle near %50), a 9v battery or two, some pennies, cotton, and a bit of saltwater. Place the ghetto electrodes beind your ears. Play with the frequency in the above range by using knob potentiometers. I've found ~15-30hz to be best.

    Even more fun can be had with a cheap Atmel ATtiny2313 8bit microcontroller (or PIC if you're that type). They cost about ~$2 each but you can sample them from large manufacturers for free (I've sampled 9 ATtiny2313 for free now). They can be programmed right from the serial port in simple (you can ignore the LEDs, but hey leave them in and you have a persistance of vision toy too), or slightly less simple manners.

    If you just want to test the effect out then just the 9vs, a few pennies, some cotton, salt water, and a little wire will do. Simply series the batteries and make electrodes out of the materials previously mentioned, warm water works best. Apply the electrodes to your mastoid proccesses and you'll feel the 'acceleration'...and a bit of stinging, but not too bad. (It'd be best if you had a soldering iron, but you could go without if really needed.)

  32. ObligFuturama by Hogwash+McFly · · Score: 2, Funny

    Obligatory (mutilated) Futurama:

    Leela: "Didn't you have remote controls in the 20th century?"

    Fry: "Well sure, but not for humans! Only for tv and radio...and stereos...and DVD Players. And for air conditioning, blinds, and toy cars, and Robosapiens, and banana label machines, and Nintendo. But not for humans! No sirree."

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  33. Spock's Brain by payndz · · Score: 2, Funny
    Everyone laughed at the Star Trek episode 'Spock's Brain' for its claim that you could control a person's body with nothing more than electronic headgear and a remote control.

    Who's laughing now? [Tick... tick... tick...]

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  34. Please no tarantulas by The+I+Shing · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just as long as no-one uses this technology to make me do something gross, like eat a tarantula (a la Red Dwarf...)

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