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New Golden Age for Outside-the-Box Startups?

jg21 writes "A brief essay on the SOA Web Services Journal claims there is a new phenomenon among startups, the 'momentary enterprise'. The article defines the term as a business that 'takes advantage of an opportunity that may only exist for months'. The piece claims that we're entering a golden age of technologies that can be glued together to create new types of information that fill an identifiable need. On example given is VOware like Groove, which is likened to IM on steroids. From the article: 'The ingredients for another wave of new companies are all around us - pervasively all around us. They include new wireless extensions of the wired network and the further exportation of technologies such as XML.' Intriguingly optimistic."

144 comments

  1. Didnt we have this already? by daxomatic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Everything your team needs for sharing documents blah blah Its called exchange?

    1. Re:Didnt we have this already? by TedCheshireAcad · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm sure you meant CVS...

    2. Re:Didnt we have this already? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, he meant Subversion.

  2. Conference calls by fm2503 · · Score: 1

    From TFA:
    "The productiveness of a conference call definitely suffers because multitasking participants are only __slightly__ paying attention."

    Wow - who did they ask this question?
    Isn't participation in conf calls a bit like presence on the corporate IM system?
    Online and therefore must be working?

    1. Re:Conference calls by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Problem stems from the fact that 90% of all conference calls are useless wastes of time. If I did not join in from my desk and then mute the mic and then promptly ignore everything (I record to my iRiver though) I would not get anything done. On a specific project we have at LEAST 5 conference calls a week on the subject, typically going for 1 to 2 hours and talking about crap we covered the last 5 calls.

      conference calls are a waste of time now days because they are overused and nothing productive is done with them anymore.

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    2. Re:Conference calls by pete6677 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's a people problem. People like to feel and look important, and one big way to do that is to hold meetings. Many aspiring managers hold pointless meetings where they get to hear themselves talk for an hour for the sole purpose of justifying their existance. They will use whatever medium is available to them, be it an in person meeting, conference call, online meeting, whatever. Until this cultural problem is somehow solved, pointless meetings will be a regular way of life in most companies.

    3. Re:Conference calls by danharan · · Score: 1

      So, you're recording to the iRiver for the 10% of conferences that are a useful waste of time? ;)

      Seriously, like most meetings, calls are incredibly inefficient. There's a few rules to follow for efficient meetings- just because they're over the phone doesn't mean they don't apply anymore.

      That's why if there is no agenda, I'll just refuse to attend. Otherwise, good facilitation is everyone's responsibility. Some interventions can be useful:
      "What needs to be done about this item?"
      "I'm happy with both solutions you suggested, but your two departments obviously have different needs. Can you two try to work out alternatives and report back at our next call so we can move through the rest of our agenda?"

      Can be a good way to undermine a PHB's authority that can't manage meetings :)

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    4. Re:Conference calls by rosciol · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The problem with conference calls and meetings is mainly that the people calling them typically don't understand how to hold a productive one (and therefore may call them unnecessarily, leading to overuse). There are an incredibly large number of ways to hold unproductive calls and meetings, but the window within which one can hold a productive call or meeting is very small.

      As a traveling consultant, I spend a lot of time on calls, and I can tell you that there are a lot of calls that just distract me and accomplish nothing. However, there are also a large number of calls that are the only way to resolve issues involving multiple decision makers. Without those calls, I would also accomplish nothing.

      I've seen a week's worth of e-mail debate get resolved in a five-minute conference call with the right people involved and the right chairperson. I think what we really need is just for more people to understand what meetings should and should not be used for, and how you can actually make a meeting useful.

    5. Re:Conference calls by Doctor+Memory · · Score: 1

      Wow - who did they ask this question?

      They asked *you*! Weren't you paying attention?

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    6. Re:Conference calls by Taladar · · Score: 1

      So we use IRC for meetings and the manager gets to feel important due to his high rankings in all channel stats (except for longest idler and similar stuff).

    7. Re:Conference calls by Connectmc · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of an essay I wrote for a local paper about setting up effective conference calls. It's from an Indian perspective, but the points are valid for most such meetings. The link is to my blog, where the essay is mirrored.

  3. Blah blah blah corporatespeak blah blah blah by Cyburbia · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Such commodities will be expertly and automatically leveraged by super-deep, business-to-business automation, and new enterprises will start up by focusing their energy on differentiating their value in the marketplace rather than creating and supporting all of the associated accoutrements."

    Can we have a translation to English, please?

    1. Re:Blah blah blah corporatespeak blah blah blah by OakDragon · · Score: 2, Funny

      If only you would synergize your paradigms, you would get it...

    2. Re:Blah blah blah corporatespeak blah blah blah by maxwell+demon · · Score: 5, Funny

      Here's the translation. All irrelevant stuff has been removed.
      --- begin of translation ---
      --- end of translation ---
      Hope this helps.

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    3. Re:Blah blah blah corporatespeak blah blah blah by Cyburbia · · Score: 1

      I would, but I'm currently on the fast track to leveraging my synergy, to untimately enable a scalable best-of-breed solution.

    4. Re:Blah blah blah corporatespeak blah blah blah by pubjames · · Score: 0


      In the Queen's English, the correct response to such as statement is "You're full of bollocks".

    5. Re:Blah blah blah corporatespeak blah blah blah by Bill+Dog · · Score: 1

      They're talking about outsourcing/having automated for you your HR, payroll, etc., so that you don't need to set up and maintain all that on your own just to start a business (that you're going to shut down in a few months anyways, when the tiny window of opportunity you're serving passes).

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    6. Re:Blah blah blah corporatespeak blah blah blah by stupidfoo · · Score: 2, Funny

      Here, this may help:

      Web Economy Bullshit Generator

    7. Re:Blah blah blah corporatespeak blah blah blah by GreyWolf3000 · · Score: 1

      You talk about scalable solutions, but let's talk deployment scalability. Do you have a turnkey deployment solution as well? Is it managed? Can it set your mind at ease with knowing that leading industry rollout expertise is incorporated in your solution?

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    8. Re:Blah blah blah corporatespeak blah blah blah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You already did that in your subject line.

    9. Re:Blah blah blah corporatespeak blah blah blah by protoshoggoth · · Score: 1

      Thanks much! I hadn't read TFA and knowing that it's comprised of this sort of nonsense tells me I'm not missing much.

    10. Re:Blah blah blah corporatespeak blah blah blah by mykdavies · · Score: 2, Interesting

      My take is that it means: "Think like a start-up. (1) Identify a need that exists now. (2)Solve it. (3)Make some money (Profit!). (4)Stop."

      If you're providing eg an online calendar sharing tool, your business should consist of (1) the application developers (2) the people (person) marketing & selling the tool and collecting the income. Develop it once, sell it for a year, then stop.

      Any business that's in it for the long haul will inevitably build up all the admin overhead of HR, ISO-9001 teams, canteen staff, janitors, strategy co-ordinators, as well as releasing more version with increased functionality until it includes a word-processor and a newsreader.

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    11. Re:Blah blah blah corporatespeak blah blah blah by berbo · · Score: 1

      I'm too busy empowerming global mindshare right now.

    12. Re:Blah blah blah corporatespeak blah blah blah by sonamchauhan · · Score: 1

      "...the billing and accounting systems, the transport or supply systems, the IT function - and the list goes on. Such commodities will be expertly and automatically leveraged by super-deep, business-to-business automation,"

      He means "business service delivery via B2B integration"

      Companies generally only support B2B E-commerce - buying and selling items and services online. He talking of _delivering_ business services using B2B standards that make tight integration easier.

      So, where earlier you had SAP CRM, now you have salesforce.com integration; where you had an ERP accounting module, now, say, accountsforce.com.

      Ecommerce is not too difficult - buying and selling are established everyday practises and automating them is a matter of converting paper based documents (RFQ, PO, POA, INV, etc.) to electronic ones.

      But services like HR, AP/AR etc are not as easily outsourced -- they are entangled everywhere in a business (Aspect Oriented Programmers would call them crosscutting concerns :). Traditionally, thse internal business functions did not need interfaces with other services or entities (like POs do for buying/selling). In fact ERPs were successful partly due to tight intergration of all modules. So it may be easier to outsource the entire ERP . Eg: Microsoft To Enter Hosting Business
      http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/27/122 228&tid=109&tid=185&tid=218

      Despite this, companies like salesforce.com are successful. But most of thier clients are not integrated - only 20% of their transactiong go through an API. Also, there aren't plug and play standards on interfacing their service with major ERPs like SAP. But standards for 'entangling' services may conceivably arise later - let us see.

      "...and new enterprises will start up by focusing their energy on differentiating their value in the marketplace rather than creating and supporting all of the associated accoutrements."
      Marketlingo. Sometimes differentiation *is* that your IT, or your logistics, or your supply system, are all inhouse and very responsive, as compared to your competitors.

    13. Re:Blah blah blah corporatespeak blah blah blah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This guy must have come from a second rate business school; he forgot to use the words synergy and paradigm!

    14. Re:Blah blah blah corporatespeak blah blah blah by GreyWolf3000 · · Score: 1

      And I'm too busy empowering your mom's mindshare right now.

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    15. Re:Blah blah blah corporatespeak blah blah blah by elemental23 · · Score: 1

      Wow, I can see that paradigm shifting from here!

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    16. Re:Blah blah blah corporatespeak blah blah blah by elemental23 · · Score: 1

      ... until it includes a word-processor and a newsreader.

      I think you mean, until it can read mail.

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    17. Re:Blah blah blah corporatespeak blah blah blah by Kent+Recal · · Score: 1

      Can we have a translation to English, please?

      No problem. They are simply saying that by pro-actively leveraging the synchronicity of a paradigm-shifting product
      line and building a reliable logistical capability in cooperation with an responsive
      amalgam of industry professionals those startups can be enable a superior win-win scenario
      with competitive advantage on the diversified but fragmented market of solutions.

      Clear enough?

  4. Grand by grasshoppa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So we're going to have more people getting VC for ideas that won't last more than a few months.

    Well, I guess that's an improvement over the last bubble: Those guys didn't have a plan beyond getting the VC.

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    1. Re:Grand by Moby+Cock · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Sure they had a plan.

      It was to have their company bought out by Yahoo and become instant billionaires.

      The plan this time seems to actually create a working company and then watch it go bust within a year.

    2. Re:Grand by flokati · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think the point is that gluing together different technologies is so cheap and easy, these companies don't need VC.

    3. Re:Grand by btarval · · Score: 1

      Right. Now the plan is to pop up, grab the cash, and disappear.

      I suppose that works if you're the one grabbing the cash. It would seem that the speed of Economic Darwiniam Evolution just increased.

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  5. Tech by kevin_conaway · · Score: 1

    And of course what allows all this magic to happen? Why SOA of course!

  6. XML technology is so amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It harnesses the power of an ASCII text stream!!!

    I predict this XML technology will soon take over the internets.

    1. Re:XML technology is so amazing by greg_barton · · Score: 1

      I predict this XML technology will soon take over the internets.

      It already has. Heard of the "HTML" virus?

    2. Re:XML technology is so amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      .. and the annual price for lamest comment on slashdot.org goes to ..

    3. Re:XML technology is so amazing by 21mhz · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually, it adds markup capabilities to a Unicode text stream, something that previous markup/structured data representation technologies had troubles to do in a robust and standardized manner (even XML 1.0 itself has issues with that).

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    4. Re:XML technology is so amazing by Zerbs · · Score: 1

      nah, XML is just a fad! I've been trying to convince people that for the last 3 years but they don't believe me. I guess it will be their loss when it fades away.

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  7. I love the department name by K.B.Zod · · Score: 5, Interesting
    It certainly could be the beginning of the next bubble. Joel Spolsky doesn't think much of the "Web 2.0" hype, which I think this article may be buying into.

    The bit in the article about how XML will solve all our data interchange problems is particularly curious. C'mon, it's just text files with a bunch of angle brackets, when it gets right down to it.

    1. Re:I love the department name by Kjella · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The bit in the article about how XML will solve all our data interchange problems is particularly curious. C'mon, it's just text files with a bunch of angle brackets, when it gets right down to it.

      I'm currently working on some integration issues. XML/SOAP is a whole lot simpler than the way it used to be. Sure, you still have to map the fields and make sure the data are compatible, but having the interface well defined, the protocol well defined makes it a helluva lot easier to do "many-to-many" integration, whereas before everything was custom built to make one system fit another.

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    2. Re:I love the department name by dslauson · · Score: 1
      "C'mon, it's just text files with a bunch of angle brackets, when it gets right down to it."

      You could also say something similar about all the source code for Linux, or any other program. It's just text files. And programmers, they're just typists, really. I think you're kind of understating things a little.

      The beauty of XML is how useful it is in light of it's simplicity. Something doesn't always have to be complicated to be ingenious.
    3. Re:I love the department name by Eric+Giguere · · Score: 2, Informative

      Indeed, see Tim Bray's comments on Why XML Doesn't Suck for some great insight.

      Really, the problem many people have had with XML is that the tools aren't always up to par. But new ways of doing things come around to fix things, such as pull parsers, which simplifies XML parsing without having to resort to regular expression tricks like Tim Bray was talking about in XML Is Too Hard For Programmers.

      Eric
      HTTP header viewer

    4. Re:I love the department name by Generic+Guy · · Score: 1
      it's just text files with a bunch of angle brackets, when it gets right down to it.

      So the next big thing will be... Appleworks* for my Apple IIe?




      *which originally used bracketed functions for document formatting long before HTML or this wiz-bang XML you speak of.

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    5. Re:I love the department name by justins · · Score: 1
      The bit in the article about how XML will solve all our data interchange problems is particularly curious. C'mon, it's just text files with a bunch of angle brackets, when it gets right down to it.

      Hey! Those text files have feelings, you insensitive clod.

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    6. Re:I love the department name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Posting AC from work. .XML is only a stream of ASCII with angle brackets, but in corporate America where I work, the idea of interchanging data transparently and accurately across the business is a pipe dream.
      Moving data between apps typically takes either most of the IS team and is billed out at inflated rates (job security, y'know) or they bring in consultants so they get a "sure-fire" solution... and pay even more.
      I have bosses who don't trust a SQL query output to an Excel sheet from our own corporate DB because "How do we know the data is the same as in the financial statements?"
      Corporations are dull places to work, but a rich mine for geeks willing to tolerate some tedious work.

    7. Re:I love the department name by greg_barton · · Score: 1

      It certainly could be the beginning of the next bubble.

      Nah. This is the foam after the bubble popped.

    8. Re:I love the department name by K.B.Zod · · Score: 2, Interesting
      No doubt XML is very useful. What I'm getting at is XML by itself doesn't do much for you. It's the semantics behind those documents — the schema, DTD, what have you — that can possibly make it useful for specific applications. And getting everyone to settle on those is the real work.

      The sense I get though, is that some think you can just sprinkle XML on your system and voila, data flies around seamlessly! XML can get you toward that goal, but you still have to decide what goes inside all those angle brackets.

  8. erm, huh? by Bill+Dog · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Also, the fact that their life spans will be measured in months or a short number of years will not be grounds for dismissal from Harvard Business School. A successful business model doesn't need to be measured by its staying power.

    Who's going to purchase an IT solution from a business that admittedly is only going to be around for several more months?

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    1. Re:erm, huh? by cgenman · · Score: 1

      How many people have SCO licenses?

    2. Re:erm, huh? by Nykon · · Score: 1

      these companies will only be in business for s hort time to address a short lived problem. By the time the company closes up shop there should be no need for their services anyway.

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  9. Welcome to 2005! by myspys · · Score: 1

    Seriously, who'd buy software from a company (to avoid OSS zealots) that doesn't seem to have enough money to invest in a website?

    I mean, have a look at the website VOware have, it looks like it's from the 80s

    1. Re:Welcome to 2005! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From the 80s?

      Doen't you mean gopher://virtualofficesoftware.com

    2. Re:Welcome to 2005! by BewireNomali · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Many said the same about Google.

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    3. Re:Welcome to 2005! by gentlemen_loser · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yes - but can't you see the "Certified Microsoft Solutions Provider" banner at the top? That should put all your fears to rest right there ;-)

    4. Re:Welcome to 2005! by HermanAB · · Score: 1

      ...and it looks even worse when FF blocks all the Flash crap...

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    5. Re:Welcome to 2005! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Click on "Customers"

  10. Nothing to see here by mustafap · · Score: 2

    Statements such as

    "Advances in image-processing algorithms now enable computing networks to actually understand scenes."

    and

    "It is now trivial to litter an environment with video-capture devices because the costs and wiring complexity have been nearly eliminated."

    Suggest that the overall content may not be of very high value ;o|

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    1. Re:Nothing to see here by stupidfoo · · Score: 1

      Excuse me while I puke.

      Makes me glad I didn't RTFA.

    2. Re:Nothing to see here by mustafap · · Score: 1

      wish I hadn't. Don't normally.

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  11. Translation by EraserMouseMan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Companies will use B2B to quickly build a business and the required market relationsips. Then narrowly focus on filling a niche and will stay focused on that niche (instead of becomming a larger one-stop-eShop).

  12. Translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Companies can communicate with each other in many ways. Startups will attempt to get their money by providing small unique services rather than a comprehensive solution."

    Hmm... At least that's how I read it...

  13. Great! by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1
    Another wave of shorting stocks and I can retire. :-)

    Can I short these guys on the day of the IPO?

  14. Not another "new" economy. by plasmacutter · · Score: 5, Informative

    there is a new phenomenon among startups, the 'momentary enterprise'. The article defines the term as a business that 'takes advantage of an opportunity that may only exist for months'.

    I'm a student of economics, and I can say with authority that this kind of market trend is not one we want to gravitate toward.

    Such short term viability of a firm or product detracts from economic stability and societal welfare.

    A firm which does this kind of work can't take advantage of economics of scale for it's market, meaning higher costs for producing a good or service which will not be demanded in the long term.
    Even if there are strong IP protections, such short term niches would not provide compensation for a large development effort.

    Would you want to be employed by a firm whose products were projected to be worthless by year's end?

    The article speaks of "reconfiguring, lego like" to pursue the next momentary opportunity, but that creates tremendous uncertainty and volitility.

    on that one I ask:
    -How would you behave with your money if you weren't sure the next "opportunity", or 2, or 3, or 4, that your small business pursued woud gain you a profit?
    (i know in such uncertainty i would spend less, and if the population collectively spends less then recession takes hold, making the uncertainty a self fulfilling prophecy).
    -How comfortable would you be investing your retirement or college fund in stocks or even bonds for a firm which behaved like this?
    (It's not the kind of sector in which you can expect a career/pay stable enough to raise a family, i'll tell you that one.)

    I think it would be an economic nightmare if this were to become predominant business practice, but I'm happy that most managers would never sanely consider such a strategy as their primary business plan (if i did, i'd be in constant fear of being fired by the directors during a time when my prediction as to what the "new momentary market" was).

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    1. Re:Not another "new" economy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Someone swallowed the dictionary..

    2. Re:Not another "new" economy. by danharan · · Score: 1
      I'm a student of economics, and I can say with authority that this kind of market trend is not one we want to gravitate toward.
      Your study of economics does not give you the right to speak for what "we" want.

      The market is not something that will avoid certain business scenarios so that you may avoid living in constant fear. This thing called "capitalism" does not have feelings, nor does it care what you feel. If you haven't felt that fear yet, you've been blissfully insulated from the market realities the vast majority of the rest of the world (presumably that "we" you speak of) has had to experience.

      Besides, some of us actually want an economy where the hot new product we build in March is free as in beer or at least dirt-cheap by November. That kind of commodification is what makes us all so rich. In the past couple centuries, we've actually put over 90% of the farming economy out of work. This is just going faster. Yeah, we'll have to adjust.

      So get over your feelings, learn some good economic history and join the rest of us that want to build real wealth. It's not a job, but it is real work.
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    3. Re:Not another "new" economy. by Generic+Guy · · Score: 1
      Would you want to be employed by a firm whose products were projected to be worthless by year's end?

      I think we already have similar types of businesses, I call them "fad businesses". Currently the cell phone market is full of fad businesses -- small retail outlets which exist as franchises for the carriers. There are also smaller fad businesses which market 'phone holsters', changable faceplates, extra batteries and other novelties. They'll eventually die off and be replaced with whatever the next fad might be.

      Cell phones and accessories (current fad) before that it was - Pagers (and accessories) before that I remember Yogurt shops being all the rage

      So, it seems fad businesses have been around for awhile already.

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    4. Re:Not another "new" economy. by vertinox · · Score: 2, Funny

      Would you want to be employed by a firm whose products were projected to be worthless by year's end?

      Only if they pay 100K per year and give good references.

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    5. Re:Not another "new" economy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Would you want to be employed by a firm whose products were projected to be worthless by year's end?

      Like, basically any computer hardware manufacturer?

      Yeah, working at NVidia or ATI would really suck!

      Short-term viability of a product does not imply short-term viability of a company.

      And I don't even see why short-term companies are bad. Would it be better if all companies were really old, like Ford and IBM? Older companies tend to be less innovative. Sure, it's nice to want to live forever, but do you really want your grandparents' generation running everything still?

      Being able to assemble a team, build a product to fill a niche, and then disassemble to go on to other projects seems like a great recipe for rapid innovation in many areas.

    6. Re:Not another "new" economy. by khallow · · Score: 1
      Would you want to be employed by a firm whose products were projected to be worthless by year's end?

      Depends on the money. If the pay is good (and the checks clear), I don't have a problem. Plus, it isn't such an alien idea. For example, I doubt many clothes or shoe styles last more than a few months. A clothing retailer is constantly introducing new designs and throwing away old ones. Now if everyone were to suddenly adopt a few month horizon, that would be silly. But again, that has happened with some of the more extreme economic bubbles.

      The key to remember here is that some market needs are that transient, and people are willing to pay a good markup for the peculiar costs that a provider of transient services would incur.

    7. Re:Not another "new" economy. by cpeterso · · Score: 1


      I imagine the overhead of managing the "Lego-like reconfiguring" would be HUGE... in addition to the company just trying to get its REAL work done. Companies grew large to improve their efficiency. Ironically, people now see big companies as great examples of inefficiency. After some ups and down, the end result will be a little of both and somewhere in the middle.

    8. Re:Not another "new" economy. by Thing+1 · · Score: 1
      Would you want to be employed by a firm whose products were projected to be worthless by year's end?

      Doesn't matter. We're approaching the singularity, and the closer we get the shorter the "idea/implementation/successor" cycle gets. So right now, companies can expect to profit from an idea for a year. A couple years from now, that cycle will only be 6 months, possibly less.

      Ray Kurzweil has a graph (not on this page, but similar graphs appear and I'm too lazy to find what I saw a year ago), showing that while advances trend up and to the right, each individual advance is a bell curve and the bell gets shorter (and taller!) the closer we get to the singularity.

      How would I behave with my money? As I have been for the last 10 years, irresponsibly: money won't matter beyond the singularity.

      As to investing, I just do what VectorVest tells me to do for just one of their indicators, and made over 300% last year.

      There will be tremendous societal upheaval in the next 20 or 30 years, as we approach, meet, and move past the singularity. Knowing how businesses will behave on our way there will help you cope, not hurt you. Whether you agree with this or not, you had better prepare for it.

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    9. Re:Not another "new" economy. by Jussi+K.+Kojootti · · Score: 1
      I'm a student of economics, and I can say with authority...

      Actually... No, you can't.

  15. But who do we sue? by G4from128k · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Sound like this might creates some apoplectic lawyers. If a company lasts only a few months, it's going to be a difficult target for lawsuits. By the time the plaintiff finds a lawyer or the case goes to court, the company is gone.

    I suppose you can go after the principals, but if most of the money came from (and went to) a set of legally-insulated investors (e.g., in an LLC), then the managers of the company won't be the deep pockets that lawyers love. Can a dissolved entity be reconstituted (and money taken back from investors) if that company is later found liable for something?

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    1. Re:But who do we sue? by Phanatic1a · · Score: 1
      A few months?

      Hell, a few days is likely, and it'll get worse (or better), as in this bit from Charles Stross's Accelerando:

      "Well." Manfred picks up his coffee and takes a sip. Grimaces. "Pam wanted a divorce settlement, didn't she? The most valuable assets I own are the rights to a whole bunch of recategorized work-for-hire that slipped through the CCAA's fingers a few years back. Part of the twentieth century's cultural heritage that got locked away by the music industry in the last decade - Janis Joplin, the Doors, that sort of thing. Artists who weren't around to defend themselves anymore. When the music cartels went bust, the rights went for a walk. I took them over originally with the idea of setting the music free. Giving it back to the public domain, as it were."

      Annette nods at the guards, one of whom nods back and starts muttering and buzzing into a throat mike. Manfred continues. "I was working on a solution to the central planning paradox - how to interface a centrally planned enclave to a market economy. My good friend Gianni Vittoria suggested that such a shell game could have alternative uses. So I've not freed the music. Instead, I signed the rights over to various actors and threads running inside the agalmic holdings network - currently one million, forty-eight thousand, five hundred and seventy-five companies. They swap rights rapidly - the rights to any given song are resident in a given company for, oh, all of fifty milliseconds at a time. Now understand, I don't own these companies. I don't even have a financial interest in them anymore. I've deeded my share of the profits to Pam, here. I'm getting out of the biz, Gianni's suggested something rather more challenging for me to do instead."

      He takes another mouthful of coffee. The recording Mafiya goon glares at him. Pam glares at him. Annette stands against one wall, looking amused. "Perhaps you'd like to sort it out between you?" he asks. Aside, to Glashwiecz: "I trust you'll drop your denial of service attack before I set the Italian parliament on you? By the way, you'll find the book value of the intellectual property assets I deeded to Pamela - by the value these gentlemen place on them - is somewhere in excess of a billion dollars. As that's rather more than ninety-nine-point-nine percent of my assets, you'll probably want to look elsewhere for your fees."
    2. Re:But who do we sue? by goldspider · · Score: 2, Informative

      "Can a dissolved entity be reconstituted (and money taken back from investors) if that company is later found liable for something?"

      The whole point of LLC is to protect investors from the illegal actions (and consequences thereof) of the companies in which they invest.

      Let's take everyone's favorite whipping boy Enron for example. Imagine the outrage/chaos if every Enron investor became criminally/financially liable for the illegal actions of the company? If that were the case, NOBODY would want to invest, and our economy would be nonexistant.

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    3. Re:But who do we sue? by LaCosaNostradamus · · Score: 1

      It's deuced odd, innit, that we do lots of things we're responsible for, even things we are responsible for through the actions of others ... and yet society MARCHES ONWARD.

      Owners want to expand their wealth. They can ONLY do this by investing. Hence they MUST invest.

      So it doesn't matter about sentiments like "ooooh, I don't like being held responsible!". (Of course, it DOES matter if you're an elite scumbag and think that laws and morality just don't fucking apply to you.)

      Humans have invested since time immemorial. The "zero liability" retardation is a modern invention designed to create a new aristocracy inside Republics to assist transforming them into Empires. So pardon me if I just fail to sympathize.

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    4. Re:But who do we sue? by goldspider · · Score: 1

      So let me get this straight.

      Let's say somebody sues (an easy target here) R.J. Reynolds and winds a judgement that far surpasses the company's assets. In your world (and correct me if I'm wrong) everyone who invested in the company, including other companies and fund brokerages, should be held financially responsible for the balance?

      Or another example. Random Company A goes bankrupt, and has millions of dollars in debt. You would go after the company's investors to cover that debt?

      Under such a system, why the hell would ANYBODY want to subject themselves to that kind of risk??

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    5. Re:But who do we sue? by frn123 · · Score: 1

      How about depends:

      If it can be shown that all the owners knew (or should have known ) about Reynolds tobacco
      business and that its quite lethal to their clients, why not
      hold the owners responsible?

    6. Re:But who do we sue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you would do that how? Haul the hundreds of thousands of individual investors and mutual fund operators into court? Best of luck with that!

    7. Re:But who do we sue? by Thing+1 · · Score: 1
      Under such a system, why the hell would ANYBODY want to subject themselves to that kind of risk??

      For the same reason that people convince themselves that gambling is a good idea: because the potential rewards outweigh the risks.

      Do you think gambling should be risk-free? After all, that's what investing is.

      Perhaps under such a system, investors would be more cautious with their money, and stupid fucking idiotic ideas like "we'll lose money on every transaction... but make it up in volume!" would never get funded. Perhaps the Internet bubble never would have happened, and the investing trend would have continued to be "up and to the right" instead of stumbling when people realized that money-losing transactions, regardless of the volume, will result in a net loss to the company (in fact, as the volume increases, so does the loss!).

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    8. Re:But who do we sue? by LaCosaNostradamus · · Score: 1

      In "my world"? WTF? If you OWN stock in the company, you OWN the company ITSELF. YOU are responsible for the things you OWN, and doubly so for things that ACT on your behalf. So it's not just in "my world", Bub.

      You want to OWN profits? That's what stockholders have always wanted. Well, you also have to accept responsibility for LOSSES.

      I've already explained that investors ARE investors since they want to grow their wealth. Since they MUST invest, they really have to accept the idea that they are responsible for their investments invoking debts and other liabilities in THEIR name. After all, all that "shareholder value" screeching is a double-edged sword for the reasons I've already explained perfectly well. You have to take responsibility for losses as well as profits. This is the joy and sorrow of the Ownership Society, Bub.

      Again, if you disagree, then you're an elitist scumbag who doesn't believe that any rules whatsoever apply to you. People like you are shot and dumped into ditches eventually, so keep it up.

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    9. Re:But who do we sue? by Xiroth · · Score: 1
      For the same reason that people convince themselves that gambling is a good idea: because the potential rewards outweigh the risks.

      Do you think gambling should be risk-free? After all, that's what investing is.

      Yes...but when you're gambling, say at a slot machine, you don't have anti-jackpots where you suddenly go a hundred thousand dollars into debt to the casino. You're only liable for what you put in, and it's the same philosophy that is behind the protection for investors.

    10. Re:But who do we sue? by Xiroth · · Score: 1

      The problem with this idea is that it will cause people to be much more cautious in their investing, and therefore only invest in companies that have proven to be reliable - big companies. While big companies aren't immune from losses, no-one will be willing to invest in start-ups or innovative small companies since they are so unpredictable.

    11. Re:But who do we sue? by Thing+1 · · Score: 1
      Well, I'm not convinced. I could give you money ("invest") for you to kill someone, and I should definitely still be held liable.

      I believe that removing accountability from corporations is one of the primary reasons they behave like sociopaths these days (i.e., only greed matters).

      I agree with you that investing is currently similar to gambling, in that you only risk what you put in (unless you short a stock, or sell options). However, I don't think I should be able to set up a "hit shop" and have my customers not be liable for the hits that they purchase.

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  16. Y'know... by Otter · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I'm not one of the people always yelling that stories here are paid ads: "Slashvertisement! Astroturfer! Roland Picqupiale!!!!"

    But I'm thinking Zonk got taken on this one. That VOware link is informative, why?

    1. Re:Y'know... by plasticmillion · · Score: 1

      Yeah, that's exactly what I thought. Actually what I thought was "so how can I spin some appealing-sounding Slashdot story so they willingly link to my company's homepage?"

  17. Hi! BIG BUSINESS DEAL NOW!!!111 by simp · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hi! I have a super duper business idea for you. But it will only last for a few months, so be quick! Please send all your VC money asap to my nigerian bank account manager so that he can leverage your business opportunity. Feel free to synergize your partners to maximize the cummulative profits streams to me.

    I await your business proposal, please send accurate paperwork so that we can leverage the moment and exchange funds in this great enterprise 2 enterprise opportunity.

    Vice-Prince Mike Okelewa, the 2nd.

    1. Re:Hi! BIG BUSINESS DEAL NOW!!!111 by museumpeace · · Score: 1

      ha ha ha OK mike, you send me some photos of you in drag and I will send you a really Big check.

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    2. Re:Hi! BIG BUSINESS DEAL NOW!!!111 by Hugonz · · Score: 1

      Nah, won't pass...orthography is too good.

      You'd have to slip a couple of "busines" and "oportunity" here and there.

  18. Boom and bust by HermanAB · · Score: 1

    Well, I don't think having companies that go boom and bust quickly is really such a great idea, especially after having worked for two of those...

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  19. trouble keeping up? by jtroutman · · Score: 1

    Over the course of the last hundred years the speed of change in almost every aspect of our existence has increased dramatically. New technologies and new ways to use existing technology are coming faster than ever. The multitasking cellphone that the writer feels has "so many functions that one could get lost just trying to find them all" is only one example. Obviously this will allow business models to evolve that take advantage of these changes. This idea is not new however, these are simply new applications that have adapted to the latest technology. There have always been businesses that are here one day and gone the next, from trinket vendors following the trail of Roman Legions to the pop-up hotdog stands that show up wherever there is a large gathering of people. This is the same thing, just utilizing the latest technology. Mankind's greatest ability is not language or the use of tools, but his amazing adaptability to new situations.

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  20. Start your company now! by Tumbarumba · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hey, here's the perfect page for this topic. It will generate the name of a Web 2.0 company and product description in seconds!

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    1. Re:Start your company now! by StarfishOne · · Score: 1

      Great link! Very nice inspiration for finding a topic for my thesis ;D xD

    2. Re:Start your company now! by Nf1nk · · Score: 1

      I would love to see the google ad sense that it comes up with for each of the fictional companies

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    3. Re:Start your company now! by se7en11 · · Score: 1
      Brillian!

      Your company name: Secolile
      Your company product: community dating via XML

      You saw it here first. ®

    4. Re:Start your company now! by blake3737 · · Score: 0

      my favourite part of using that was when it said "
      Name:

      Product:

      Bloody genius man! I must invest all my capital right now.

    5. Re:Start your company now! by mrjb · · Score: 1

      They'll have stiff competition from: Your company name: Sectix Your company product: social podcasts via instant messaging

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  21. What About Patents? by HeelToe · · Score: 1

    It seems to me this idea is a bit too much wishful thinking in the current patent litigation climate. Combine 3-5 technologies in a unique way for solving some problem that will be acute for a few months time, get hit with patent lawsuits from three different directions.

    Of course, maybe you can rake in the cash in solving that acute problem for a few months, close up shop and get out of Dodge before the lawsuits do much harm. Put the money overseas in a non-patent-litigious society's banks and kick back?

    1. Re:What About Patents? by sane? · · Score: 1
      How about just addressing a niche in a country or region without dumb software patent rules? Part of the point is having the right environment.

      Many people have dumped from a great height on this, but in essence it probably right. Most businesses, even the 'long' lasting ones, are essentially only their immediate product. By not growing a huge hierarchy a business setup and limited around that one product is probably going to be best and more efficient than a typical business model. Nothing says you can't do one after another.

      Take the example of the Crazy Frog ringtone - hit, make money, then move on as people tire of the product. Hell, with the mergers and 'redefined corporate directions', what is the half life of a technology company anyway - 2 years?

  22. argument from authority by tjic · · Score: 1
    There's a rhetorical fallacy called "argument from authority", which is when someone tries to prove a point by saying either "I'm quite wise", or "I'm just repeating what so-and-so said, and he's quite wise.

    That being said, let's review:


    I'm a student of economics, and I can say with authority that this kind of market trend is not one we want to gravitate toward.


    Now, personally, I think the original article is a bit silly...but asking me to agree with you that it's a bad idea because YOU'RE A STUDENT and THEREFORE I should agree with you is just inane.

    1. Re:argument from authority by plasmacutter · · Score: 1

      asking me to agree with you that it's a bad idea because YOU'RE A STUDENT and THEREFORE I should agree with you is just inane.

      disagree if you want, i won't stop you. My point in mentioning the statement you characterize as "rhetoric" is the market conditions this guy says charactererizes this "new paradigm" are exactly those exposed by every intro text as leading causes of recession and reluctance to participate in the market. In short, it's not about my "intelligence" or "expertise", it's the fact this guy seems to be pulling this stuff from a deep dark place i'd rather not mention.

      This guy grabs onto a strategy which enjoys some limited success in certain limited conditions and applications and without any long term study is proclaiming it shall supplant centuries of soundly applicable economic theory. It can be compared to someone authoring an article detailing his witnessing a balloon floating upward, thus giving him grounds to say gravity simply will not apply any longer.

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  23. This is crap by Dikeman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Starting up a bussiness is not and has never been restricted by the cost of setting up an infrastructure.
    What makes every company (and especially IT companies) expensive to start?
    EMPLOYEES
    It's hard to get good people and after you get them together you will spent by far the biggest part of your budget on their salaries.
    And my guess is that this will always be the case. People want a salary, no matter how many nifty 'Hybrid PDA's' you throw at them.

    Every VC will laugh his ass of if he reads this article. It's a load of bull that makes my stomach turn.

    1. Re:This is crap by vertinox · · Score: 1

      What makes every company (and especially IT companies) expensive to start?
      EMPLOYEES


      Then why don't those companies hire people right out of college and maybe get some employee loyaltee while saving some money instead of hiring the latest guru who who costs 50% of the companies budget and will end up leaving for Google in 5 months.

      I think the biggest problem with many companies is their aversion to hiring people right out of college.

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      -Sigismund, Holy Roman Emperor (1368-1437)
  24. New Old Things by scoove · · Score: 2, Informative

    new phenomenon among startups, the 'momentary enterprise'.

    Actually, Tom Peters dealt with the concept extensively in his 1993 book, Liberation Management. While it's certainly pre-momentary business technology in some respects, it does a good job addressing the higher-level conceptual issues associated with this business construct. One example referred to was Peter's video publication business that existed for about a month and included experts from numerous fields who came together to create a business exclusively for the production of the video, and then disbanded and went onto other projects.

    *scoove*
    You know you're getting old when the new things aren't.

  25. Outside-the-Box Artificial Intelligence Startups by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Artificial intelligence is the prime example of a Golden Age for outside-the-box developers.

    The AI User Manual tells how to get started in Outside-the-Box Artificial Intelligence.

    The Mind.Forth AI Engineshows that you can work on Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) without perpetuating the colossal failures of the traditional AI Establishment.

    The AGI Mail Archive is a community forum of AI Outside-the-Boxers.

    A Web site on PC-based robots sports an outside-the-box A.I. Zone where you may think outside the box about putting artificial intelligence into hi-tech robots.

  26. Risk Corporate Data and Security to someone else? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't trust anyone else to look after your precious data. MS 'lost' source code, Banks lost 'credit card details', and fly-by-nighters have 'sold' lists and contacts. Nope, the family jewels stay put. The thought of others grepping company reports makes ones skin crawl.

  27. It's the new anti-dupe strategy by Morgaine · · Score: 1

    When article content is zero, then 2 * 0 == 0, so the editors can't be accused of posting dupes ever. :P

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  28. From the title... by Massif · · Score: 2, Funny

    I thought this was an article about booting from a network device. Woe is me.

  29. Slow Tuesday Night by ghostlibrary · · Score: 1

    Sounds a bit like kitbashing, only with software ideas instead of model kits.

    Fortunately for wannabe startups, R.A. Lafferty already covered the details in 'Slow Tuesday Night', where a typical entrepreneur can go from rags to riches 3, 4 times in one evening. Instant (POD) publishing, channels for quick creation and distribution, even rapid divorces, a lot of the stuff we use today.

    Of course, that was in 1966.

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  30. There definitely IS a downside to lining up VC $ by museumpeace · · Score: 1

    time to market stretches out...the more groundbreaking your idea, the more time it takes to convince a group to fund you [a single investor going it alone in a big bet on your business idea is rare...VC's like company when they take the plunge].
    I know. I was employee # 6 at a 1996 start up that met its first VC over a year earlier...and lost out in the end to Vermeer [which got bought and became Front Page" because we were on hold for a very precious year. You have any idea of the difference between getting in on a boom, say the "dot com" boom the year BEFORE its a household word and trying to get in the year AFTER every body with a server thinks he is a player?

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  31. Life Imitates Art? by rprime · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Funny how this article came out while Cory Doctorow is serializing a novel about small temporary businesses that just glue together the resources available. I think some of the text in the article was lifted directly from the first chapter.

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    1. Re:Life Imitates Art? by 3waygeek · · Score: 1

      I was wondering if someone else noticed that too. I'm not a Cory Doctorow fan, but Themepunks is a damn good read.

  32. Ooooo.... by istartedi · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm so anxious to work for a compnay that has to get all its cash from revenue right away, then folds in 4 months. Will the next "visionary" please step forward? No, the stick is perfectly harmless. Step closer, it's OK...

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  33. somthin' fishy here by museumpeace · · Score: 1

    Grove network is not in anyway an example of the business models that the article proposes. Its actually Ozzie's addition to microsoft.

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  34. New Old Things-Just add water. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    That really sounds like the way some R&D and games are done. Come together, do something, disband. Just the core infrastructure stays the same. There is one thing that makes this much easier. Technology, and a good support structure. Note that a small company can easily be put together from leased and rented parts and services. The only part that doesn't deal with quick change is of course, government.

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    BTW From a wannabe businessman to a businessman. I'm looking at starting a SOHO doing software appliances. Maybe using something like Vista since this city is heavy on the medical community. e.g. hospitals, doctors offices, even universities (UIPUI, Butler).

    Any advice on getting started?

    1. Re:New Old Things-Just add water. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Support and technology ... Our two weapons are technology and support ... and ruthless efficiency ... Our three weapons are technology, support, and ruthless efficiency ... and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope ... Amongst our weaponry are such elements as ... I'll come in again.

    2. Re:New Old Things-Just add water. by scoove · · Score: 1

      Maybe using something like Vista since this city is heavy on the medical community. e.g. hospitals, doctors offices, even universities (UIPUI, Butler). Any advice on getting started?

      The medical community is very difficult to break into (and becoming increasingly so), due to regulatory factors that impact IT vendor selection like HIPAA. IT sales to publically-traded companies are becoming more difficult due to Sarbanes Oxley audit and compliance requirements that get applied to the vendor. You will be expected to have healthy financials, bear the cost of having them audited, and may be expected to have undergone a recent SAS-70 audit to qualify as a technology service provider.

      Over the past dozen years, the tech industry has quickly raised barriers to entry to keep startups out and the most effective approach is to limit qualification to only established and financially healthy vendors. Sadly, it just isn't realistic to break out with a better mousetrap in healthcare, banking or most major corporations for this reason. Then again, some would argue that healthcare or banking are terrible places for the experimentation of untested, bleeding edge IT products. Better to prove them out in markets that are tolerant of their rough edges, get them worked out and then move up into more risk-averse markets.

      That said, I'd suggest you look for markets that don't have these regulatory requirements if your startup is to have a chance. I'd also avoid markets that suffer from buyers that expect a ton of perks like free training at exotic vacation destinations (e.g. the week-long Disney World trip with about 4 hours of real training), tons of free ancillary software and other expensive bribes to swing the buyer's decision your way. You'll have difficulty as a startup competing in this kind of market, where your competition will wow the customer with three times the useless sales critters, send the customer's techies to an exotic location for training for a week, and stick the customer with an outrageous bill for an outdated solution. You'd think people would make rational decisions and buy your better product, but at least half the buyers I've encountered probably would take the personal gifts (they're probably looking for another job anyway and a free Disney trip would be a nice way to conclude their career at the company).

      If you want more ideas or have any aspirations of launching a tech startup, get your hands on Clayton Christensen's Innovator's Solution - this is a must read (and a good start to his books).

      *scoove*

  35. Real Journal Article by BarryNorton · · Score: 2, Informative

    White papers and flashy websites (when they're working - Data Mobility Group) are all very well, but if you want to read a real journal article on the subject, Andrew McAfee (an Associate Professor at Harvard) recently had one such in the MIT Sloan Management Review : 'Will Web Services Really Change Collaboration' (though like a real journal article, it's not free and doesn't have Flash adverts and videos in the middle).

  36. But do LLC's protect investors forever? by G4from128k · · Score: 1
    The whole point of LLC is to protect investors from the illegal actions (and consequences thereof) of the companies in which they invest.

    This is true. The investors enjoy limited liability, but not zero liability. Investors can lose 100% the money they put into a venture (but nothing more than that). The question is: can legal proceedings on a dissolved LLC (or one that distributed significant amounts of capital back to the investors) force a recall of that invested/distributed money?

    IANAL, but I wonder if there's some legal mechanism for this. Otherwise LLCs could skip out on liabilities by quickly dissolving before those liabilities are recognized. I also wonder if a clever lawyer could pierce LLC protection if they proved that the investors knew of the liability or participated in the avoidance of that liability by dissolving the entity.

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  37. erm, huh?-Open Doors. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Who's going to purchase an IT solution from a business that admittedly is only going to be around for several more months?"

    Sounds like the Open Source business model.

  38. This is a corporation? by mblase · · Score: 1

    'When it has been fully exploited, the momentary enterprise is reconfigured - Lego-like - to pursue another opportunity. A "pop-up" business model is born, thereby changing the competitive balance and leveraging pervasive data.'

    I've heard of this sort of business before. I believe the colloquial term is 'fly-by-night'.

  39. Out of the what? by Bulmakau · · Score: 1

    We are an in-the-closet start-your-own-company startup who wants to be out-of-the-blue company. To do that we are planning to raise investment from an over-the-sky VC and become off-the-scale enterprise, being bought by the end of the fiscal year by a without-a-doubt big conglomerate.
    AND by the way, we are web2.0 compliant so we believe we will flip before we flop and be able to mashup our deep-web syndication of bubble open-source companies' databases making a killer eCPM by SEOing their portals to attract eyeballs and by that raise valuation and eventually exit by IPOing to the generally buzzword-ignorant investor in the bullish stock market. ;)

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  40. Party Like It's .... by LukePieStalker · · Score: 1

    1999 just called. They want their irrational exuberance back.

  41. I wish by Craig+Ringer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Things like Exchange are great /within/ a company. Well, except for the server admin. They suck bigtime outside a company and between companies.

    That's a large part of what these sorts of people are on about - working better within _and_ between companies - though I really don't know if they have anything interesting beyond hot air to offer. Anything that gives the customers at work a moron-proof interface to send us documents that DOESN'T involve email gets my vote.

    1. Re:I wish by fireboy1919 · · Score: 1

      FTP. Works great. Integrates with the OS.

      Unfortunately it isn't secure...

      The moment Windows fixes its filesystem API so that you don't have to be a master of Windows kernel internals - only of your filesystem - is the moment that this will be easy.

      And Exchange will die horribly like it should have five years ago.

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    2. Re:I wish by Craig+Ringer · · Score: 1

      Well, thanks to proftpd I don't have to worry much about the server security issue for FTP. I don't like the fact that it's in the clear and that few clients support digest authentication, SSL wrappers, or STARTLS, but since this would be a semi-public service it'd be OK in this one case.

      The problem is that experience has shown me that FTP is, in fact, not idiot proof. Even with shell integration in WinXP and Mac OS X, and a document with lots of detailed screenshots, clients just *can't* *do* *it* and will fall back to emailing you the damn ad.

      Frankly, I don't know what _would_ solve the problem, given the number of users who seem to be incapable of doing more than sending an email.

  42. Thank you, Barry! by CyricZ · · Score: 1

    Thanks, Barry! That's a fantastic article. It really discusses the relevant points, and makes a strong case. I'd suggest that everyone read it. It does discuss matters from an excellent perspective.

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  43. Thankyou by Craig+Ringer · · Score: 1

    In the case of XML 1.0, any encoded text stream (usually Unicode, please oh god not ASCII) . I'm pleased to see that XML 1.1 tightens this up a little. They still leave a gaping hole for confusion between UCS-2 and UTF-16 (and beween UCS-4 and UTF-32) by defining "unicode encoding form" as "encoded in UTF-8, UTF-16 or UTF-32" but "legacy encoding" as "any character encoding not based on Unicode." Still, it's better than "god knows what encoding this document is in, it's missing a
    I regularly have to deal with software that assumes that input is in whatever encoding the authors happen to think is "universal" (utf-8, ucs-2, utf-16, ucs-4, 7-bit ASCII, ISO-8859-[1-15], cp-blah, and so on). It's horrific. Thankfully it's less commonplace with XML, which can be reasonably expected to be utf-8 or UCS-2 (but sometimes utf-16), but enough apps just write out a document with the current locale's encoding to be problematic. Some toolkits and libraries even encourage it with DOMs that handle text encoding issues inconsitently or ignore them, then make it worse by not writing out a <?xml processing directive .

    I've already bought the nice heavy wooden bat. I'll be painting "text encodings" and "clue" on it in the coming holidays, and I'm still very tempted to add some nails. I'm in Perth, Western Australia, so I don't meet all that many other OSS developers, but I'll be bringing it when I do ;-)

    This little rant isn't aimed at you, by the way - it's more in agreement with you really. It's very much inspired by the parent poster, though it's not their fault (if they're not programming they don't need to know or care, and even if they do they were probably just being sloppy. It's not code, after all.).

    1. Re:Thankyou by 21mhz · · Score: 1
      They still leave a gaping hole for confusion between UCS-2 and UTF-16 (and beween UCS-4 and UTF-32) by defining "unicode encoding form" as "encoded in UTF-8, UTF-16 or UTF-32" but "legacy encoding" as "any character encoding not based on Unicode."
      I believe they are consistent here. UCS is a set of Unicode characters as abstract codes, and UTFs are representations of those characters with actual byte streams. There is no such thing, officially, as UCS-2 "encoding".
      I've already bought the nice heavy wooden bat. I'll be painting "text encodings" and "clue" on it in the coming holidays, and I'm still very tempted to add some nails.
      Oh, it could help some of my colleagues, too.
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  44. You Young Kids by serutan · · Score: 4, Funny

    Nowadays just about everything is "on steroids."
    In my day all we had was "Turbo."
    My parents had to settle for "o-matic".

  45. Time for a sequel to Lain, I guess by remsleep · · Score: 1

    No, wait. The original is still relevant. My mistake.

  46. Re:YUO AM WELL INSIDE TEH GAY FAGGOT BOX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I want 2 get in teh gay faggot box how do i do it plzthx

  47. I bundled yo Momma by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    tar -xvzf yomomma.tar.gz

  48. New Old Things-Just add water.-Vista. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I realized that I should have elaborated on the Vista I was talking about (figured the 'healthcare' would be a clue, but you know this crowd).

    I see that others have a similiar idea.

  49. All hail the snake oil salesman? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When did conning people into spending thier money on something that will be useless in a few months become something worthy of praise?

  50. Economic nightmare? No, Social Extensioning. by newpath4comVersion2 · · Score: 0

    Our bedhopping social mores are leaking into business practice? That's a nightmare? Perhaps, but a natural extension across th' table is what it is. Brad Pitt, running, jumping, stabbing the sword into his opponent BEFORE THE OPPONENT CAN MOVE! See a girl, sitting at the bar, run and jump with the one-liner before she can say yes to the guy on her left. hahahaha Inventing a new widget that's easily reverse-engineered? Drown the marketplace with a wide-angle X-Mart blast, make the lion's share before your opponent grabs it, runs around the block, returns running with his copied widget ... Jumping in the air he stabs you with his cloned (your) widget. Sounds reasonable to me but uhm sorry about your job prospects. GUESS YOU'LL HAVE TO RUN FASTER, LEAP BUILDINGS IN A SINGLE BOUND. IS IT A BIRD? IS IT A PLANE? NO! IT'S MODERNMAN. http://www.newpath4.com/911%2BMessage%2Bto%2BFox%2 BNews%2BHosts%2BBill%2BO'Reilly%2BNeil%2BCavuto%2B John%2BGibson.htm#billoreillyscreamsfoul_sayshissh owandthetelevisionmediadoesnotseednewmurdersingeor giaoranywhereelse_weareinnocent For what it's worth guy your job isn't the only one being shaken from its tree. http://www.newpath4.com/TheIraquiStoryofWar2001200 220032004200520062007culpabilityoffoxnewsagencyand departmentofenergyfornottellingpresidentbushaboutn ewcarenginesolutionfromnewpath410262005.gif

  51. I stopped reading by lorcha · · Score: 1
    I'm a student of economics, and I can say with authority
    I stopped reading right there. Taking Econ 101 does not make you any type of authority. Wake me up when you have 20 years' experience.

    BTW, IAAE.

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