For example in Estonia, it is forbidden to sell locked phones. All phones work on all networks. And phone numbers are transferable to other networks for free.
WTF has happened? I remember when reasonable disclosure ment that the vendor was notified and given 3 days to release a patch. AND that public was notified right away with no details.
Now some people speak about "responsible" (whatever that means) disclosure of 90(sic!) days!
Just a bit of clarification: There really is NO promoting Nazi organizations or siding with Nazi in Estonia. Can i ask from where does this false information come from?
Also the bogus premise of "speaking language x well enough to get citizenship" is needed in the vast majority of European countries (correct me if i'm wrong).
> -- never mind that the attacks were perpetrated by a lone 20-year-old and not by a foreign government or terrorist.
This quote is far from reality. The lone 20-year-old was the only one who got convicted, because he was the only russian caught who lived in Estonia. Meanwhile the bulk of the attackers got away, because they live in Russia. And russia don't extradite their citizens (remember the Litvinenko case?). If you can read estonian,:-) see this link: http://www.epl.ee/artikkel/392271
A crude translation: On june 28th 2007, the reply from russian authorities denied all help to estonian government regarding the cyber-attack investigations.
Sure. Just like less diversity in any other field.
Less OSes will mean more people using the same one, thus promoting better usability. Less programming languages will mean more people using the same one, thus promoting better interoperability. Less TV channels will mean more people watching the same one, thus promoting easier choice what to watch. Less car brands will mean more people driving the same one, thus promoting..
Are you sure thats the route we should want to go? OR Beware, there be dragons.
Besides, many(most?) of those dying languages are probably forced ones, like the forced Russification etc...
Ok, i'm starting to see where to problem lies. Seems thats this kind of identity theft seems to be somewhat connected to USA businesspractices and case law and it's possibly no problem whatsoever in my locality.
But hypothetically, i've gathered that there is one thing they've got right in your system and thats small claims court. Can't you "easily,safely and cheaply " sue those credit rating corps for slander (libel? never understood the diff.) for publishing false information about you?
If you knew my name and SSN, you could open up a credit card in my name (opening up credit cards is sooooo easy in the US... you can do it online or over the phone) and have the card shipped to your address. Then, you could walk up to an ATM every day and withdraw $500 (or whatever the limit is) in cash. Bonus points if you send fake checks to the credit card company that will eventually bounce, but the CC company credits your account anyhow, so you can keep withdrawing cash. Eventually, the credit card company will come after me for the money because someone called them who knew my name and SSN and asked for a credit card, so it must have been me.
So the CC company will ask from you their money back. You refuse. They can't sue because they don't have any proof you loaned that money.
AFAIK ID theft also happens in Europe (now that you've posted your information you should really make sure that somebody doesn't try to change the address associated with your bank account). It's more difficult to do in Europe than in the US, for these reasons (I'm not an expert but I've lived in both continents):
Here, changing vital things like mailing address requires someone in person with my passport going into the bank and talking to the teller.
1) Credit reporting agencies have a far greater role in the US than they do in Europe. When you apply for a cell phone plan, or open a checking account at a bank, your credit ratings are checked. Factors such as income or current total credit seem to only be secondary to the 'trust factor' of the credit rating. If you've been behaving well in the past you can get an amount of credit for which the monthly payments would exceeds your income. There's no plans here. I just pay monthly as much as i speak. Most of us here don't own or need a credit card either. And how that info changes my credit rating - i would not know.
2) Unlike tax IDs in Europe, the American equivalent, the Social Security Number (which realy is a kind of tax ID) is used as a primary key for credit reporting agencies, and little checking is done on the actual identity of the person supplying that number.
The obvious trick of course is to make these ID-s public. So no-one can rely on them for identification. Even our presidents ID is public.
5) The primary customers of credit reporting agencies are financial institutions and other companies, not people. It's not in their interest to prevent credit and ID fraud (actually their role only gets more important as that kind of crime goes up).
Thats the point i still don't get. Lets suppose i'm an US-ian, and you know all my ID-s, SSN-s etc etc. How can you abuse that?
Endel Muna frn@imelaps.ee +372 5103301 ( don't call me at US daylight hours please:) 37807020340 (id) 221014345996 (Hansabank checking(?) account)
My question stands. Why should i be worried? Really? The worst you can probably do with this info is temporarily suspend my ATM card.. That kind of info is "almost" public in my country and there seems to be little or no problems with it.
The subject of tabs vs spaces should be clear enough to everyone.
Let me quote the relevant standard:
Linux kernel coding style [cut] First off, I'd suggest printing out a copy of the GNU coding standards, and NOT read it. Burn them, it's a great symbolic gesture. [cut]
Chapter 1: Indentation
Tabs are 8 characters, and thus indentations are also 8 characters. There are heretic movements that try to make indentations 4 (or even 2!) characters deep, and that is akin to trying to define the value of PI to be 3.
Rationale: The whole idea behind indentation is to clearly define where a block of control starts and ends. Especially when you've been looking at your screen for 20 straight hours, you'll find it a lot easier to see how the indentation works if you have large indentations.
Now, some people will claim that having 8-character indentations makes the code move too far to the right, and makes it hard to read on a 80-character terminal screen. The answer to that is that if you need more than 3 levels of indentation, you're screwed anyway, and should fix your program.
In short, 8-char indents make things easier to read, and have the added benefit of warning you when you're nesting your functions too deep. Heed that warning.
[cut] But even if you fail in getting emacs to do sane formatting, not everything is lost: use "indent".
Now, again, GNU indent has the same brain dead settings that GNU emacs has, which is why you need to give it a few command line options. However, that's not too bad, because even the makers of GNU indent recognize the authority of K&R (the GNU people aren't evil, they are just severely misguided in this matter), so you just give indent the options "-kr -i8" (stands for "K&R, 8 character indents").
"indent" has a lot of options, and especially when it comes to comment re-formatting you may want to take a look at the manual page. But remember: "indent" is not a fix for bad programming.
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Whether or not you see gay marriage a positive thing -
there are lots of fine atheist countries whose population is
against gay marriage.
For US citizen it might look like gay marriage is religious issue - i assure you that it is not the case.
Hmm, i could not find the concerning law. So there still remains the chance that no operator does sim-locking.
Depends on the EU you are talking about.
For example in Estonia, it is forbidden to sell locked phones. All phones work on all networks. And phone numbers are transferable to other networks for free.
use NSD. Sleep well.
www.nlnetlabs.nl/projects/nsd/
Well - one could argue that Russia might not be in Europe anyway, especially culturally.
> In Japan, it's pretty easy even in rural areas like Kyoto to order a 100Mb connection and get it at a reasonable rate.
Kyoto? Rural area? Are you nuts?
From wikipedia:
Population (April 2008) 1,465,917
- Density 1,779/km2 (4,607.6/sq mi)
(For comparison - New York City - Metro Density 2,828.4/sq mi (1,092/km2))
WTF has happened? I remember when reasonable disclosure ment that the vendor was notified
and given 3 days to release a patch. AND that public was notified right away with no details.
Now some people speak about "responsible" (whatever that means) disclosure of 90(sic!) days!
Are you all gone mad collectivly?
Please tell me this is April Fools. Please.
Sure there are. And they are both laughing.
There are excellent alternatives to bind.
For example, i have been using nsd for years.
Super easy to configure. Lacks recursive
resolver tho..
http://www.nlnetlabs.nl/projects/nsd/
Surely there is a third group. I would bet it to be the biggest of three.
Those who have suffered data loss, but STILL dont do backups!
A mosquito? In finland? Okay.
In DECEMBER? It's f&^* freezing there and all the mosquitos are hibernating.
don't complain, just s/([;}])/$1\n/gc .conformingsigs
or
perltidy
Just a bit of clarification:
There really is NO promoting Nazi organizations or siding with Nazi in Estonia. Can i ask from where does this false information come from?
Also the bogus premise of "speaking language x well enough to get citizenship" is needed in the vast majority of European countries (correct me if i'm wrong).
If you need a small and simple authorative DNS server, i suggest
# apt-get install nsd
Simple to install. Simple to configure.
According to the homepage, it can handle big loads too.
http://www.nlnetlabs.nl/nsd/
> -- never mind that the attacks were perpetrated by a lone 20-year-old and not by a foreign government or terrorist.
:-) see this link: http://www.epl.ee/artikkel/392271
This quote is far from reality. The lone 20-year-old was the only one who got convicted, because he was the only russian caught who
lived in Estonia. Meanwhile the bulk of the attackers got away, because they live in Russia. And russia don't extradite their citizens (remember the Litvinenko case?). If you can read estonian,
A crude translation: On june 28th 2007, the reply from russian authorities denied all help to estonian government regarding the cyber-attack investigations.
Save yourself a lot of trouble and use CSS @media instead..
Sure. Just like less diversity in any other field.
Less OSes will mean more people using the same one, thus promoting better usability.
Less programming languages will mean more people using the same one, thus promoting better interoperability.
Less TV channels will mean more people watching the same one, thus promoting easier choice what to watch.
Less car brands will mean more people driving the same one, thus promoting..
Are you sure thats the route we should want to go?
OR
Beware, there be dragons.
Besides, many(most?) of those dying languages are probably forced ones, like the forced Russification etc...
Obligatory quote:
"The on the back of your stands up."
Theres a graveyard nearby.
Ok, i'm starting to see where to problem lies. Seems thats this kind of identity theft seems to be somewhat connected to USA businesspractices and case law and it's possibly no problem whatsoever in my locality.
But hypothetically, i've gathered that there is one thing they've got right in your system and thats small claims court.
Can't you "easily,safely and cheaply " sue those credit rating corps for slander (libel? never understood the diff.) for publishing false information about you?
If you knew my name and SSN, you could open up a credit card in my name (opening up credit cards is sooooo easy in the US... you can do it online or over the phone) and have the card shipped to your address. Then, you could walk up to an ATM every day and withdraw $500 (or whatever the limit is) in cash. Bonus points if you send fake checks to the credit card company that will eventually bounce, but the CC company credits your account anyhow, so you can keep withdrawing cash. Eventually, the credit card company will come after me for the money because someone called them who knew my name and SSN and asked for a credit card, so it must have been me.
So the CC company will ask from you their money back. You refuse. They can't sue because they don't have any proof you loaned that money.
AFAIK ID theft also happens in Europe (now that you've posted your information you should really make sure that somebody doesn't try to change the address associated with your bank account). It's more difficult to do in Europe than in the US, for these reasons (I'm not an expert but I've lived in both continents):
Here, changing vital things like mailing address requires someone in person with my passport going into the bank and talking to the teller.
1) Credit reporting agencies have a far greater role in the US than they do in Europe. When you apply for a cell phone plan, or open a checking account at a bank, your credit ratings are checked. Factors such as income or current total credit seem to only be secondary to the 'trust factor' of the credit rating. If you've been behaving well in the past you can get an amount of credit for which the monthly payments would exceeds your income.
There's no plans here. I just pay monthly as much as i speak. Most of us here don't own or need a credit card either. And how that info changes my credit rating - i would not know.
2) Unlike tax IDs in Europe, the American equivalent, the Social Security Number (which realy is a kind of tax ID) is used as a primary key for credit reporting agencies, and little checking is done on the actual identity of the person supplying that number.
The obvious trick of course is to make these ID-s public. So no-one can rely on them for identification. Even our presidents ID is public.
5) The primary customers of credit reporting agencies are financial institutions and other companies, not people. It's not in their interest to prevent credit and ID fraud (actually their role only gets more important as that kind of crime goes up).
Thats the point i still don't get. Lets suppose i'm an US-ian, and you know all my ID-s, SSN-s etc etc. How can you abuse that?
Endel Muna :)
frn@imelaps.ee
+372 5103301 ( don't call me at US daylight hours please
37807020340 (id)
221014345996 (Hansabank checking(?) account)
My question stands. Why should i be worried? Really?
The worst you can probably do with this info is
temporarily suspend my ATM card.. That kind of
info is "almost" public in my country and there
seems to be little or no problems with it.
I'm from EU. I don't understand how this identity theft works.
Can somebody explain what's this all about?
I could post my email address, real name, phone #,bank account # and national id # here,
why should i be worried if i do?
The subject of tabs vs spaces should be clear enough to everyone.
Let me quote the relevant standard:
Linux kernel coding style
[cut]
First off, I'd suggest printing out a copy of the GNU coding standards,
and NOT read it. Burn them, it's a great symbolic gesture.
[cut]
Chapter 1: Indentation
Tabs are 8 characters, and thus indentations are also 8 characters.
There are heretic movements that try to make indentations 4 (or even 2!)
characters deep, and that is akin to trying to define the value of PI to
be 3.
Rationale: The whole idea behind indentation is to clearly define where
a block of control starts and ends. Especially when you've been looking
at your screen for 20 straight hours, you'll find it a lot easier to see
how the indentation works if you have large indentations.
Now, some people will claim that having 8-character indentations makes
the code move too far to the right, and makes it hard to read on a
80-character terminal screen. The answer to that is that if you need
more than 3 levels of indentation, you're screwed anyway, and should fix
your program.
In short, 8-char indents make things easier to read, and have the added
benefit of warning you when you're nesting your functions too deep.
Heed that warning.
[cut]
But even if you fail in getting emacs to do sane formatting, not
everything is lost: use "indent".
Now, again, GNU indent has the same brain dead settings that GNU emacs
has, which is why you need to give it a few command line options.
However, that's not too bad, because even the makers of GNU indent
recognize the authority of K&R (the GNU people aren't evil, they are
just severely misguided in this matter), so you just give indent the
options "-kr -i8" (stands for "K&R, 8 character indents").
"indent" has a lot of options, and especially when it comes to comment
re-formatting you may want to take a look at the manual page. But
remember: "indent" is not a fix for bad programming.
Linus Torvalds.