Solaris Now an Option for IBM Blades

Amiga Trombone writes to tell us that IBM and Sun have reached an agreement allowing Solaris 10 to be supported on IBM BladeCenter servers. From the article: "IBM confirmed the move in a statement, saying Sun is among more than 700 partners in the "BladeCenter ecosystem" and that as an operating system option, Solaris joins Windows, Linux for x86 and Power chips, and IBM's AIX version of Unix. IBM won't sell Solaris or support for the operating system to customers, IBM said. Anyone interested will have to purchase the software and support from Sun."

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News from the future

[hritcu]

IBM buys Sun.

Re:old news is new news

[rwyoder]

I submitted this story last Friday and it was rejected!!! Now 5 days later it's 'news'.

You must be new here.

Solaris on POWER/PowerPC

[turgid]

It's no secret that AIX sucks and IBM wanted to battle Solaris with Linux, but Solaris has a lot of advantages over Linux still. Give it another 3-5 years,thoug.

It's an open secret that Solaris doesn't just run on SPARC and x86. It's highly portable, and earlier this year, there was an official port of Open Solaris to PowerPC announced over at opensolaris.org. Heck, there was even an itanic port of Solaris last decade to prove that itanic sucks compared to everything else.

I reckon we'll see Solaris on big multi-processor POWER iron soon. Watch this space.

For x86 blades only

[sapbasisnerd]

TFA and the summary are confusing.

This announcement covers running Solaris 10 for x86 on Xeon EM64T or AMD blades (HS20 and LS20) it does NOT mean that Solaris will run on the JS20 PowerPC blades.

It's a paper-launch, for gods sake!

[rainer_d]

Immediately as "new" broke about this, I mailed the guys who sold us our LS20-bladecenter.
The reality is that as of today, no specific information is available.
Rumor has it that it will be certified still in Q4, but Q1 2006 is as likely.
Officially, you won't get anything out of IBM about this.

I'd love to run Solaris on our Dual-Core, Dual Opteron blades, but I doubt that:
  - I can get SAN-boot to work
  - I can get MP-failover to work
  - overall support for our HP EVA3000 SAN for the above two features.

We don't have disks inside the blades and we will not buy any (they're not hot-swappable anyway).

IMO, it's mostly a publicity-stunt.

cheers,
Rainer

Re:It's a paper-launch, for gods sake!

[OS24Ever]

Sun 'leaked it out' via a blog post on Mr. Schwartz weblog. Official support from IBM as far as being posted on the NOS Cert site will be December.

Update 1 is needed to support the BladeCenter's USB DVD-ROM drive for a local install, however you can PXE boot install it and it works fine. Update 1 is coming out shortly which is why IBM hadn't published anything about their intent to support it as an OS. Software and Utility support (RAID Manager, Systems Management software drivers) will be coming forward over the course of the 1H of 2006. If you have a BladeCenter, or are interested in one, feel free to contact your local IBM person and they should be able to give you more information.

The reason your rep was probably caught by surprise when you called them is that we hadn't told them we were working on it yet as it was under non-disclosure.

You might try talking to your IBM rep again as more information has been given out internally, we're just not advertising it officiall until later this month, with the support posted in December.

Your three concern points, well, i don't know about the EVA portion but I thought HP supported Solaris. However I'd assume if Solaris supports SAN Boot and MP Failover as it is, the hardware in the BladeCenter wouldn't affect it any and allow it to work. The big one though would be EVA support though because if their multipath driver isn't done/working/whatever the rest might be a moot point.

Our intentions deep within the bowels of IBM was not to support Solaris 10 as a 'publicity stunt', but more as we are getting requests to support it on the platform from customers. Our intent is to support both Intel architecture as well as AMD Architecture processors, but not Power.

FWIW, my day job is:

Tom Boucher
IBM Americas xSeries BladeCenter/x3 Architecture Product Manager
tboucher at us dot ibm dot com

As a CYA I'm not posting this for my employer, more because I'm as interested in technology as the rest of us that view this site. Views expressed are my own, etc. etc.

Tech Support!

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IBM Tech Support - Hello! May I help you?
Tommy the admin - My new IBM blade server won't boot up!
IBM Tech support - Hmm..What OS it has?
Tommy the admin - Solaris 10.
IBM Tech support - I am afraid I can't help you. You will need to talk with Sun! Here is the number xxx-xxx-xxxx
Tommy the admin - ok.
Calls xxx-xxx-xxxx
Gets back ~This number does not exist. Please check the number or call directory assistance.~
Goes to Sun Webpage. Searches for Tech Support.
~Gets 10000 hits.~
~Clicks on one.~
~Gets 404 Page not found error.~
~Goes to Google. Searches for Sun Tech Support. Gets the number!~
~Calls Sun Tech support.~
Sun Tech support - Hello! How can I help you today?
Tommy the admin - My new IBM blade server with Sun Solaris won't boot up!
Sun Tech Support - I am afraid I can't help you. Please talk with IBM.
~hangs up~
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Hey wow, nice....fun

[finkployd]

Yeah, so I got an IBM blade center, good stuff. HS20s are ok, JS20s are "da bomb" as the kids on the street say (when they are refering to Power based AIX boxes). And you know, I like Solaris 10, I run it at home, it makes a nice KDC and OpenAFS fileserver. I would like to run Solaris 10 on the bladecenter, so you would think this is good news right?

Well, suprisingly, what has been holding me back is not so much that I have been eagerly awaiting a press release telling me I can. What has been holding me back is that the solaris 10 installer DOES NOT FUCKING SUPPORT USB CDROMS DRIVES! It's been months, and it is a well known issue, that is all the blade center has, and every other damn OS on earth supports it.

So yes, I could set up a bootp and tftp server and install solaris that way, but you know what? That is just slightly more trouble that I want to go to when I can just throw an AIX or Debian cd in.

So in closing, IBM and Sun, in the future: Fewer press releases and more support for USB CDROMS would probably go further in getting people to put Solaris on a bladecenter.

Finkployd

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