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Firefox 1.5 RC2 Available

ltwally writes "Although not posted on the Mozilla website yet, Firefox 1.5 Release Candidate 2 is out. You can grab it here. As of right now, it is available for Linux (i686), Mac OS X and Windows. Happy updating!"

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  1. If you have 1.5 RC1... by puppetman · · Score: 5, Informative

    It will automagically do the update (after asking you first). Mine did about 3 hours ago.

    My Help->About still says plain old 1.5, however.

    1. Re:If you have 1.5 RC1... by gardyloo · · Score: 3, Funny

      Did the same for me, but after the restart Slashdot's live bookmark wouldn't load...

          Yeah, that's called a "feature".

    2. Re:If you have 1.5 RC1... by gregbains · · Score: 5, Informative

      Mine didn't automatically do this, but a quick help->update and all sorted, thanks again Slashdot for keeping me up to date :)

    3. Re:If you have 1.5 RC1... by Martin+Blank · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's new to 1.5, and is an attempt to improve office productivity.

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    4. Re:If you have 1.5 RC1... by mattkinabrewmindspri · · Score: 2, Informative
      1. Download the file here.
      2. Open the .dmg file.
      3. Drag Firefox to your Applications folder.

      If you want to uninstall later, you just drag Firefox to the trash.

      Installing and uninstalling works exactly that way for 99% of Mac apps.

  2. Re:Repeated updates by NeoSkandranon · · Score: 2, Informative

    No clue. I havent had any update download notices since RC2 hit just about five minutes ago.

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  3. Re:Fire--- by EnronHaliburton2004 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If I remember right, both Evolution and Firefox rely on GTK or Gnome libaries for the fonts & character sets. Correct me if I'm wrong.

    Have you done any other updates recently?

  4. Only en-US so far... by iworm · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The update, at the time of posting, is only available for en-US builds so far. Now I know that that's all that matters, but if you're running RC1 non-en-US then the update might be a little time away yet.

    Perchance that's why it's not been publicised yet, and further perchance that's what the poster or editors might have noticed? Sorry, dreaming there for a moment...

  5. What exactly is wrong... by sczimme · · Score: 3, Insightful


    ltwally writes "Although not posted on the Mozilla website yet, Firefox 1.5 Release Candidate 2 is out. You can grab it here.

    What exactly is wrong with waiting for the official announcement? Posting the link - and inciting a /.ing - seems like a rude gesture toward an organization techies generally profess to love. Did it occur to anyone that maybe the mozilla folks didn't feel ready to announce the release?? If they did, don't you think the announcement would have been added to their site? (Despite the summary, it appears that 1.5 RC2 was actually there yesterday (09 Nov).)

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    1. Re:What exactly is wrong... by Miphnik · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The official announcement many of us have already received is Firefox updating itself with the new release. Not much point in keeping it quiet if the Mozilla folks have already released it!

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    2. Re:What exactly is wrong... by the+real+darkskye · · Score: 4, Informative

      There is nothing wrong for people updating from 1.5-beta or 1.5-RC1 as the update is only around 360Kb.

      Its probabably preferable for moz.org to let as many people grab the tiny update before anouncing the availablility of the 5Mb full installer.

      When 1.5 goes gold however, you will have a very valid point, because I know that _I_ will be replacing my existing Firefox Setup 1.5 Beta 1.exe with the final version.

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  6. advancements/innovation? by xikzantric · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It seems like most of the advances that Firefox made vs. IE have now been neutralized (popup blocking, tabbed browsing, etc.). What new ideas/innovations are the Firefox team making these days to stand out in the browser wars?

    1. Re:advancements/innovation? by zulux · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It seems like most of the advances that Firefox made vs. IE have now been neutralized [snip] What new ideas/innovations are the Firefox team making these days to stand out in the browser wars?

      Security.

      Internet Explorer still is an ActiveX exploit away from wiping you files.

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    2. Re:advancements/innovation? by sedyn · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Despite all those features, as long as technical people can recommend firefox as a means to prevent spy/ad-ware to non-technical people it'll continue to spread.

      Innovation is great, but adding features for the sake of adding features is what caused a lot of trouble for IE in the first place.

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    3. Re:advancements/innovation? by sedyn · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Is there really a browser war, or is this the megalomaniac in we geeks that says any open source project just has to kill, crush and conquer? Isn't this what makes Microsoft evil?" I don't know, I'd like to visit relatives without having to "fix" their computer.

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    4. Re:advancements/innovation? by Ythan · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I think extension support is the single most significant feature of Firefox. Sure you can add functionality to IE but it's not as easy as packaging up some Javascript. This extensibility lets Firefox support new and unimagined features without adding bloat. It wouldn't surprise me if IE moves in this direction eventually just to stay competitive.

    5. Re:advancements/innovation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Why is it that someone who says the exact same thing I said a few posts up gets modded insightful, but I get nothing??? Are the mods THAT lazy???

      Not lazy at all. We just hate you.

      HTH

    6. Re:advancements/innovation? by WiFiBro · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And they are even working on an amazing copy of the Web Developer Toolbar for Internet Explorer, and some sort of GreaseMonkey userscript tool.

      Well the best reason is of course to look cool and impress your family at birthday parties. A good second is MS-bashing, always fun.

      For me, I love Firefox because
        - I can start typing in a page and FIND things
        - I can easily write userscripts for Greasemonkey to improve websites. For example on a forum I can keep my personal blacklist, reorder the page, detect trolls easily, etc.
        - a very very easy search engine chooser built-in.
        - a very clean RSS checker extension (Sage) without the need of nasty things.

      As a developer:
        - it actually gives meaningful errors, contrary to IE.

      As a geek:
        - the wonderful new toy called Scalar Vector Graphics (SVG), check out the amazing 'living; images at http://overstimulate.com/projects/canvas/

    7. Re:advancements/innovation? by EnronHaliburton2004 · · Score: 3, Informative

      memory problems

      I haven't seen any memory leaks since I upgraded to 1.5. Normally if I leave Firefox
      pointing to a page that refreshes often, the memory will swell to 150MB on my Windows box within 24 hours.

      But I haven't seen that problem with 1.5.

    8. Re:advancements/innovation? by handslikesnakes · · Score: 2, Informative

      XForms and SVG!

    9. Re:advancements/innovation? by digidave · · Score: 4, Informative

      What are they doing? With 1.5...

      1. Improved the rendering engine (through Gecko)
      2. Better tab behaviour (drag and drop placement, better default behaviour)
      3. New faster updates that don't require a reinstall
      4. SVG support

      And more, but I can't remember every big change from the changelog at the moment. Don't forget that this is a minor release, not a major release. It's mostly refining and improving features from 1.0. You can expect bigger changes in 2.0. With any luck, 2.0 will be out in time to greet IE 7.

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    10. Re:advancements/innovation? by feranick · · Score: 2, Informative

      From the release notes:

      "New support for Web Standards including SVG, CSS 2 and CSS 3, and JavaScript 1.6".

      Isn't enough?

    11. Re:advancements/innovation? by Jugalator · · Score: 3, Informative

      Just in case some don't know, in the upcoming IE 7, ActiveX is at least now an opt-in feature.

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    12. Re:advancements/innovation? by rizole · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Are you on crack? Just check out these babies and then come back and talk to me about innovation:

      Bork Bork Bork

      Eggon

      Firesomething

      It's not just about tabs and security you know. Firefox extends and enhances my productivity and gives me extra functionality, functionality that makes my co-workers all go "Ooooohhhhhh...that's so coool! Show me how to do that"
      In an increasingly technologically savvy and cynical workforce (our admin is incompetent and an asshole) I'm re-introducing a sense of wonderment in technology by showing my colleagues how to find out what the weather is doing right now without compromising the pile of shite that is our network.
      Back in the day, all this PC, IT, WWW stuff was new, exciting and compelling. There were problems but this was a new fronter and most of us seemed to want to make it a nice place to be.
      Things have moved on, grown up and become less romantic but for me and my colleagues firefox is reinvigorating the interest in computing and giving us all a little frisson of excitement. We can play without getting fucked.
      And if we can play without getting fucked that means that we can learn and grow.
      I'm sorry that my stance is so idealised and romanicised but the innovation and ideas that are coming out of the firefox team is to provide me and my friends and colleagues with a product that does not allow bad people to violate our growth and health.

    13. Re:advancements/innovation? by killjoe · · Score: 2, Informative

      " It seems like most of the advances that Firefox made vs. IE have now been neutralized "

      Most? Most? I think not. After three years of complete stagnation IE has come within 50 or 60% of the features of firefox I rely on daily. These come immediately into mind.

      Find as you type, mouse gestures, flashblock, adblock, live bookmarks, nuke anything (great for printing!), web developer, foxylicious, and of course bork bork bork!.

      Whenever I am forced to use IE I feel like somebody tied my hands behind my back.

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  7. Re:Fire--- by EnronHaliburton2004 · · Score: 4, Funny

    And perhaps you should ask on the Ubuntu forums? We're not really technical here, we just pretend to be ;)

  8. Re:load time by avkb03 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Modify your shortcut: "C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe" /Prefetch:1

  9. Please save Mozilla.org some bandwidth by Critical_ · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you're running RC1 already, the posted links have .MAR files available to perform an update without redownloading the entire binary. Windows users should be careful because .MAR is associated with Microsoft Access in Office 2003 (maybe earlier versions but this is all I checked with). Anyway, info on how to update with .MAR files is here:

    Manually Installing a MAR File

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  10. Re:Fire--- by koonat · · Score: 2, Funny

    Unbuntu does all their debugging in sanskrit.
    And the heiroplyphics for configuration...

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  11. Re:Repeated updates by Morgon · · Score: 3, Informative

    It is a bug in RC1 - the only "what's new" entry for RC2 is "several fixes to automated update system". I was getting the same thing on Beta 2 for RC1 - I eventually uninstalled Beta2 to install RC1 fresh.
    The transition from RC1 to RC2 was smooth, however.

    http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/releases/1 .5.html

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  12. Changelog by Anti-Trend · · Score: 4, Informative
    I went to hunt down the changelog, and since I had to compile a list of changes from a few sources I will go ahead and reproduce the whole thing here:

    * Fixed: 314241 - "Report broken web site" toolbar button is broken when using "small icons".

    * Fixed: 313490 - Enable IDN for .org.

    * Fixed: 313894 - Reporter chrome is registered twice.

    * Fixed: 313360 - Profile locking doesn't work if the profile is located on a FAT partition.

    * Fixed: 314754 - "Extension compatibility updates" check never completes.

    * Fixed: 314684 - Endless update loop from firefox 1.5 beta2 to 1.5 rc1 if 1.0.x was ever installed

    * Fixed: 312777 - Negative margins cause floated elements to be placed to the right of incorrect earlier boxes (since March 2005).

    * Fixed: 312363 - document.write into iframe results in broken-lock icon

    * WFM: 314484 - Firefox 1.5 RC1 topcrash [@ 0xffffff4d] [@ js_GC]

    * Fixed: 309044 - Flashplayer 8 "Bad NPObject as private data!"

    * Fixed: 314258 - ExtensionItemUpdater:checkForDone: Failure in listener's onAddonUpdateEnded.

    * Fixed: 315017 - [Linux] Undetermined progressmeter doesn't work.

    * Fixed: A few potential security holes.

    * Fixed: 313414 - Add a way to do "sandboxed" http connections that don't modify the cookie list.

    * Fixed: 314465 - Implement a non-copyingCompareUTF8toUTF16.

    * Fixed: 263042 - Ship both autocomplete impls with the new-toolkit

    * Fixed: 264308 - Implement DOM Level 3 UserData API.

    * Fixed: 314218 - New version of JEP (0.9.5+a), please land on trunk and branch.

    * Fixed: 147670 - Wrong (last or empty) tooltip text displayed for dropdown list menu items.

    * Fixed: 226094 - Support JavaScript Core for WinXP AMD64.

    * Fixed: 314549 - Various bugs involving containers not actually fixed for subframes.

    * Fixed: 312036 - History.dat contains entries deleted from the "date and site" view.

    * Fixed: Several fixes for specific DHTML performance tests.

    * Fixed: 312804 - No longer shows loading-image.gif when loading images

    * Fixed: 309706 - Stack overflow crash [@ jpinscp.dll + 0xaa87] (since Sept 22).

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    1. Re:Changelog by jesser · · Score: 4, Informative

      If you're going to copy information from The Burning Edge without attribution, at least get it right. You included several bugs that were only fixed on the trunk.

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  13. Hooray, SVG support! by Max+Threshold · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now I can embed SVG images into my pages. Exported from OpenOffice Draw, of course. "This site best viewed with a modern browser. Get Firefox 1.5 now, you Neanderthal!"

    1. Re:Hooray, SVG support! by ReinoutS · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's strange. Last time I checked, OO.o2 Writer couldn't import SVG images, which I found very annoying. But Draw can export them?!

    2. Re:Hooray, SVG support! by ScislaC · · Score: 2, Informative

      Have you tried Inkscape?

    3. Re:Hooray, SVG support! by redcliffe · · Score: 3, Informative

      Well it doesn't seem to work with the w3c's svg test suite....

    4. Re:Hooray, SVG support! by LnxAddct · · Score: 2, Informative

      For a really cool use of SVG (it uses png if SVG isn't available), check this out. That is pure javascript/css/html.
      Regards,
      Steve

  14. Re:**raises nose** by uberjoe · · Score: 2, Funny

    You spoiled kids. Links is all you really need.

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  15. Re:load time by WiFiBro · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yes to me that was the most noticable change. Especially the first time you run it is very fast. They also worked on the speed of going forward and backward.

  16. The official Mozilla Firefox RC2 page by __aaxwdb6741 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Why hasnt anyone posted this yet?

    FF rc2 @ mozilla

  17. Re:YEAH by WiFiBro · · Score: 2, Interesting

    For what purpose? Would XUL be cool?
    http://www.mozilla.org/projects/xul/

  18. Does it fix the friggin' clipboard bug? by Maxmin · · Score: 5, Informative

    Under Windows XP, Firefox has become my browser of unchoice, because it's clipboard functionality is totally borked. I posted to bugzilla, and saw that about a million other people have too.

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    1. Re:Does it fix the friggin' clipboard bug? by Maxmin · · Score: 2, Informative

      Here ya go:

      https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_for mat=specific&order=relevance+desc&bug_status=__all __&product=Firefox&content=clipboard

      FWIW, it looks like there has been some attempt to resolve, as some of these are in state closed. About to try out the release...

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    2. Re:Does it fix the friggin' clipboard bug? by strider44 · · Score: 2

      Well the most notable clipboard bug under Linux is when in KDE you accidentely middle click. The problem with just removing this though is it's sometimes damned useful to middle click (for example when trying to go to an unlinked URL you can just double click to highlight and middle click to go to that URL), it's just annoying when you do it accidentely. They should have an option to disable middle click if you'd like.

    3. Re:Does it fix the friggin' clipboard bug? by DarkEdgeX · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yeah, this happens to me as well. I usually do Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V to copy from the address bar to an open chat window in another application, and sometimes it will, for seemingly no reason, not work. Sometimes I'll even try Ctrl+X (cut), and sure enough, when I do this the text disappears from the address bar (indicating it recognized the cut operation), but it still won't paste! Just to verify it's not the chat app but Firefox, I open Notepad and still can't paste.

      Oddly, if I beat the unholy shit out of Ctrl+C it will, sometimes, eventually work. Sometimes.

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    4. Re:Does it fix the friggin' clipboard bug? by matvei · · Score: 3, Informative
      1. Go to about:config
      2. Double click on middlemouse.contentLoadURL

      Tada! No page loading on middle click on the page. If you meant something else, check out the other middle* options.
  19. Re:load time by Ythan · · Score: 5, Informative

    Debunked, but still a common misconception.

  20. Adblock Extension by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have been unable to get the Adblock Extension working under any of the 1.5 version releases till now. Any ideas??

    1. Re:Adblock Extension by grondu · · Score: 3, Informative
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  21. Re:YEAH by WiFiBro · · Score: 2, Informative

    You're not being very clear. What do you need those languages for exactly?

    To work on the page, the xpath thingy is amazingly strong, for example (http://greasemonkey.mozdev.org/authoring.html).
    And AJAX is quite fun, with the xmlhttpRequest method.
    Did you see SVG for making 'living' scriptable images? http://overstimulate.com/projects/canvas/

    I cannot imagine PHP has much value on the userside, especially with security in mind.
    Check this project though:http://www.moztips.com/wiki/index.pcgi?page =XulPhpMySQL

  22. Firefox 1.5rc2 is nearly ready to be announced by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Firefox 1.5rc2 release is nearly ready to be announced. When it is, we'll update our website to point you to the installer files with links that use our load balancer. A note: going to our FTP site directly will hammer all mirrors evenly which is bad for those smaller mirrors that aren't as bandwidth-laden as our bigger mirrors.

    If you can't wait for your Firefox 1.5rc2 fix, though, feel free to download Firefox 1.5b2 or 1.5rc1 and then use software update (Help -> Check for Updates...) to grab the 1.5rc2 update. The updates for both to 1.5rc2 are less than a meg!

    Chase, the build/release guy at Mozilla

  23. Re:Repeated updates by kaptron · · Score: 3, Funny

    What could Sony possibly have to do with this? Oh wait, just came across something called $sys$firefox_install...

    /me runs as sharp objects are hurled in my direction

  24. Re:Firefox "update" feature sucks by alfrin · · Score: 4, Informative

    Do you pay any attention? The new 1.5 Firefox has binary updates, eliminated that problem all together.

  25. Re:load time by masklinn · · Score: 2, Informative

    Not really, but it eats noticeably less RAM

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  26. Re:Repeated updates by masklinn · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you are using a Beta version (and not a Release Candidate), then it checks on the Beta/Dev branches, which means that it has a news version (new build) pretty much every day.

    Try doing this: go to the config page (type about:config in the address bar), then search for "app.update" and set the values:

    app.update.channel to release app.update.url to https://aus2.mozilla.org/update/1/%PRODUCT%/%VER SION%/%BUILD_ID%/%BUILD_TARGET%/%LOCALE%/%CHANNEL% /update.xml app.update.details to http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/releases /

    That should do the trick and grab the updates from the Release files (aka stable branch) instead of the beta/dev files

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  27. I've been running this for days... by Tezkah · · Score: 2, Informative

    ... and it just now gets posted on Slashdot?

    Why all the fuss about Release Candidate #2... with some minor bug fixes, when Opera released a technical preview of their next generation browser, Opera 9.0/Merlin?

    Sometimes I wonder if Mozilla has been putting some of their advertising dollars at work here...

    1. Re:I've been running this for days... by WiFiBro · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The short of it: Slashdot simply is not about being fair.

      Other things:
      * Firefox attracts more geek attention with the possibility of making extensions, XUL, etc
      * Opera has been flying below the radar using the wrong UserAgent by default, only now changed in the specs you link to, so apparently a very low percentage of webusers seems to be using it, while Firefox seems to have taken a serious part of the market. Campaign among Opera users to change that, and stats may change radically.
      * if i read the specs you link to, many (not all) items are following what ff already did. Well actually they are very close. I like seeing they do Xpath, Canvas, and that they improve xmlhttprequest.

  28. Re:Fire--- by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Except that I use GNOME all day, and have for years. There are occasional little bugs, like all the software that irritates me. This font bug happens not to occur in Mozilla. It's irritating in Evolution. But certainly not enough to make me switch my entire environment. Especially Evolution - switching to KDE won't make Evolution work any better, as Evo will continue to use the GNOME libraries. As usual, the solution to a cosmetic bug is to reconfig or fix it, not to throw out the baby with the bathwater.

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  29. Re:Try Aethera. by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "So many problems"? I've got exactly one problem, which I work around, which emerged recently, which I expect to solve shortly, through upgrade or otherwise. I assure you that I'm facing no productivity decrease from it. You're obviously just cheering for your preferred app. Which means you're ignoring whatever bugs your app has - that any app has. Not exactly a reliable opinion to motivate my switching my entire desktop environment.

    If you're able to do such a switch yourself on that kind of basis, you're probably not very productive yourself, regardless of your rate - I mean real amounts of production, which I produce voluminously and to great profit, thank you.

    Really, if you want people to be receptive to your advice, you've got to offer just the helpful insights, and skip the patronizing insults to our own insights and experience.

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  30. Re:YEAH by robfoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I also had problems with 1.5 and adblock, but turning off Adblock's 'Obj-Tabs' feature seemed to fix it.

  31. Portable Firefox 1.5 RC2 Released by CritterNYC · · Score: 2, Informative

    Portable Firefox has been updated to the 1.5 RC2 release. For the unfamiliar, Portable Firefox allows you to carry your whole web browser along with all your bookmarks and extensions with you on a USB thumbdrive, iPod, portable hard drive or any other portable media. You can plug it right into any Windows computer and use it just like you would on your own. It is a repackaged version of Firefox designed with portability in mind, so it has all the same great features, but there's nothing to install.

    Portable Firefox 1.5 RC2

    And if you're a fan of the portable apps, Portable Gaim 1.5 Beta was released to day, as was Portable Apps Suite, a preconfigured suite of portable applications including Firefox, Thunderbird, Sunbird, NVU, OpenOffice.org, AbiWord, FileZilla and Gaim.

  32. Why there is no "RC2" in the version string by Anthracks · · Score: 3, Informative

    IANAMD (I am not a Mozilla developer), but I assume there is no RC2 in the version string because for once they are actually adhering to the meaning of "release candidate". If they find no show-stopping bugs in this build, the exact same file you just downloaded will be rechristened "Firefox 1.5". If they had to change anything (even the version string), it wasn't technically a "candidate for release".

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  33. Download Resuming by ThePeices · · Score: 2, Interesting

    One feature id really like to see firefox support is download resuming. Adding Getright-like features to the download manager would be a great feature. There isnt even an extention available to do this....

  34. New 'save link as ' sucks. by barnaby · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In Linux the GTK only filepicker (right click -> save page/link as) is awful
    (IMO). Forcing this change on every Linux user because some folks at red
    hat think it is a good idea to more fully comply with Gnome is awful.

    http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=3188 60&highlight=filepicker

    How about giving those of us that have been using Mozilla for five years a
    pref to use the XUL filepicker that we are used to?

    I save upwards of 20 files a day and am very used to the defaults the way
    they are.

    I'm staying with Firefox 1.0.x at this point.

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  35. "automagical" by The+Cydonian · · Score: 2, Informative

    Something that happens automatically, but on whose mechanism the speaker doesn't want to elaborate, either because it is trivially obvious, or exasperatingly complex.

  36. Re:Hooray, SVG support MOD PARENT UP by LnxAddct · · Score: 2, Informative

    Sure, not a problem. For more cool javascript stuff checkout:

    Some more demos from dojo (the editor one is neat, after you select your toolbars, it lets you edit the text of the page on the fly.

    Another site, OpenRico, has a neat javascript library. The link takes you to their live grid which updates in realtime through AJAX, but above the grid you'll see their other demos that you can click to view.

    Here is another site, ActiveWidgets, their 1.0 version is just a very customizable grid that can be made to look like anything from an excel spreadsheet to a listing of files in a directory (look at the examples linked to from their front page). If you scroll down on this page you'll see links to examples for their 2.0 beta. Check out all 3, you can make your website essentially appear like a native WinXP dialogue (I think that is WinXP, I run Fedora though).

    Keep in mind all of this is in javascript/css/html, its also all opensource (you can search for other projects like these, a notable site is scriptaculous). Its really neat to see javascript finally being used to its full potential, web apps should get really interesting in the next few years.

    Regards,
    Steve

  37. Re:Acid2? by Slashcrap · · Score: 2, Funny

    How about the Acid2 test? Does it improve on it's performance in that area? With browsers like Safari and Konquerer passing it, are there any real efforts at Mozilla to get some standard compliance in that area?

    No released version of Safari passes it. I think what's happened is that the development team announced that they hope to pass it soon, but because you are wearing the rose tinted glasses that come free with every Mac, you have misinterpreted that statement as "Safari passes it!".

    Hope this helps.