Kingdom Hearts 2 - Now With Tron

Much anticipated sequel to the original Square-Enix/Disney collaboration just became even more interesting. 1up.com has confirmed that Kingdom Hearts 2 will feature a Tron world, based on the 1982 Disney film. From the article: "As you can see in a scan posted in this thread, Goofy, Donald and that cutie Sora are fully decked out in the duds of the Master Control Program universe, as well as Mr. Kevin Flynn himself, Jeff Bridges. Having the crew of Kingdom Hearts tackle a world based on a live-action film is nothing new to this sequel as a world based on Pirates of the Caribbean, complete with a seriously detailed Johnny Depp has long since been revealed."

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Amortize Losses

[6ame633k]

Perhaps this is a good way for them to reuse assets and amortize their losses over the dismal sales of TRON the game....

Re:Amortize Losses

[Seumas]

Oh, wonderful... so I can expect to have to play "Ten Things I Hate About Eating the Rich and Dying Trying" soon?

Re:Amortize Losses

[6ame633k]

Yeah - or maybe you could play in a mall or school in the "ABC Kids" Universe - like "That's so Raven" or "Lizzie McGuire"

Re:Amortize Losses

[tepples]

or maybe you could play in a mall or school in the "ABC Kids" Universe

Only if I get to play the Crunch Pod minigame against Pepper Ann.

In this thread

[N3Roaster]

Should read:

As you can see in a scan posted in this thread, Goofy, Donald and that cutie Sora are fully decked out in the duds of the Master Control Program universe, as well as Mr. Kevin Flynn himself, Jeff Bridges.

Um. Okay. Yay... uh.. Tron.

[Seumas]

Have any of my fellow geeks who prattle on about how wonderful this movie is and how much they love it actually seen it in the last decade? It's easy to talk about something positively when you're basing it on nostalgic memories rather than reality.

The movie came out when I was four or five years old and I watched it when I was ten or twelve. It was good. Not great, but good. I watched it a decade ago, when I was about 18. You know what? It was terrible. As I said in that other StarWars post, Tron was I actually used to like Knight Rider?! awful. The same goes for The Last Starfighter.

And of course a disney game would have tron/CGI stuff in it. It's probably a reference to how Disney doesn't have animators anymore or do cell-animation since they're a CGI-only outfit these days.

Re:Um. Okay. Yay... uh.. Tron.

[hanabal]

i have to agree, I used to think that it was a good movie when I was a kid. But a few months ago I watched it again, and aroud 2/3 of the way into it I was so bored I couldn't finish it. There was nothing good about it.

Re:Um. Okay. Yay... uh.. Tron.

[Captain Splendid]

Yeah, it's a bit crap, especially to those of us who have a clue how computer systems work, but I also wonder how many people that movie piqued the interest of who might not have entered the IT field.

And while it's certainly dated, I think both the story and the effects have held up remarkably well considering how old it is. There's plenty of movies since that can't say as much.

Re:Um. Okay. Yay... uh.. Tron.

[Seumas]

I just wish I'd never watched it again. I barely remember the movie, but watching it as an adult really was a bad move. Same with The Last Starfighter. I had such fond memories of both. And sure, they were great at the time. But that was 20+ years ago each.

It would be nice to have modern versions (not remakes, just comparable modern movies for this generation that were in the same sort of vein as those movies from 80-84). Hell, I remember this great movie about this guy's (Apple?) that got jealous of him and tried to take revenge on him and his girlfriend and eventually the computer gave up and committed suicide. It was AWESOME. Even today, it's still great. I think it was based on a book. Either that, or I just happened to read a book that was similar, too. But they don't make movies like that anymore, either.

Wargames holds up, by far, better than all of them, though.

Re:Um. Okay. Yay... uh.. Tron.

[Anonymous Coward]

"Hell, I remember this great movie about this guy's (Apple?) that got jealous of him and tried to take revenge on him and his girlfriend and eventually the computer gave up and committed suicide. It was AWESOME. Even today, it's still great. I think it was based on a book."

Hrrmmmmmm. That plot sounds familiar, but I can't put my finger on it. It also sounds like a Vonnegut short story called EPICAC where a 1950's style computer helps its operator win the girl by writing poems for him (which he then uses on the girl), but then gets jealous and commits suicide.

Re:Um. Okay. Yay... uh.. Tron.

[metamatic]

Hell, I remember this great movie about this guy's (Apple?) that got jealous of him and tried to take revenge on him and his girlfriend and eventually the computer gave up and committed suicide.

Electric Dreams. Soundtrack included Giorgio Moroder and Phil Oakey.

I still like TRON.

Re:Um. Okay. Yay... uh.. Tron.

[Seumas]

That sounds like it (more or less). I know I've seen it on IMDB at some point, but can't find it right now.

Re:Um. Okay. Yay... uh.. Tron.

[Seumas]

Yeah, exactly!

Now I need to rent it from Netflix. :)

Re:Um. Okay. Yay... uh.. Tron.

[simpsone]

I watched TRON first as a young kid and thought it was pretty cool. We even had some of the toys, the light cycle toys were all right. Watching it again 15 years later and actually understanding everything they were talking about I find I have a greater appreciation for what's going on and like it more now.

Re:Um. Okay. Yay... uh.. Tron.

[Anonymous Coward]

Huh? Tron is still a great movie, because the ideas in it are just so damn cool and mysterious, in a way. I always loved those football-player looking hover tank things, the sound effects are fun, and the corporate scenes are a glimpse back at bad-ol'-1980s corporate culture. A lot of the graphic design is stunningly beautiful, even if done in vectors on computers much less powerful than my Palm.

Re:Um. Okay. Yay... uh.. Tron.

[drinkypoo]

I'm 28. I saw tron again about three years ago. It was fantastic. There are definitely movies that I stopped enjoying, but that's not one of them.

Nice combination of characters... er.

[88NoSoup4U88]

Serious, I can't be lured with Tron and Donald Duck.

Then again, if this dude would be in the game, I'd be buying it in a second.[/cheapshot]

Re:Nice combination of characters... er.

[Seumas]

The sad thing is that Jay Maynard probably still has ten times the life that most of us Slashdotters do. Myself, included.

Not to mention, that dude's got balls (no pun intended). I usually ridicule total dorks who make lameass fanboy suits and cosplay outfits, but he made a cool costume, had the guts to wear it, went national with it (Don and Mike, Jimmy Kimmel, etc) and had a good time with it. You really have to be comfortable with yourself to pull that off.

Re:Nice combination of characters... er.

[88NoSoup4U88]

You really have to be comfortable with yourself to pull that off.

...or just be very ignorant of other people's opinions (see Idols for example).
But I agree with your that with this dude it's probably as you say : But man, the spandex + seethrough-nuts was too much at the time ;)

It's Tron, not Kevin Flynn, and not Jeff Bridges

[hackwrench]

Tron was Allan's (Bruce Boxleitner) program, thus if they are using the same person we're looking at Bruce Boxleitner.

TRON is well and good, but

[Dr. Photo]

I'd rather play a game with Donald in Mathemagic Land.... ;-)

Tron World? Huh?

[ApuD2]

I seriously doubt that anybody in this game's target audience has even heard of the movie Tron, let alone seen it. I'm gonna have to take a "wait-and-see" approach with this world. If it's anything like the Gummi Ship sequences from the last game, then I'm jumping off the bandwagon.

Re:Tron World? Huh?

[Kazzahdrane]

See, that's what I used to think about Kingdom Hearts - it's aimed at kids. Sure, the game's worlds are based on Disney films, and they are (almost always) aimed at kids. But the game's difficulty and scope, and the themes it explores through the storyline are anything but childish. I used to also think "It's a shame that lots of people will think "pff this looks like a kids game" and not play it", but now I just pity them since KH is a really *really* good game. The sequel has been on the horizon for a long time, and every time I read a preview of it I remember how much I enjoyed the first one. Auron is in KH2....I don't see how that could possibly be bad :D Should point out that the parent has obviously played the game and hopefully liked it, this post was more to inform people who hadn't given the original a shot for fear of playing a crappy and short game.

Re:Tron World? Huh?

[Anonymous Coward]

Having played Kingdom Hearts, I can tell you that it's really for idiots. Seriously, it was one of the worst games I've ever played.

Should point out that the parent has obviously played the game and hopefully liked it, this post was more to inform people who hadn't given the original a shot for fear of playing a crappy and short game.

Uh, it is a crappy and short game.

I think the simplest explanation is the "gummi ship" which was essentially a WASTE OF TIME between the various "game" worlds. To go between worlds, you had to fly the Worlds Worst Shooter, a completely boring and POINTLESS minigame that accomplished NOTHING but wasting time. Keep in mind, the entire point behind Kingdom Hearts is to be playing an action RPG, NOT an insanely crappy space shooter. The "this is only hear to annoy you" minigame is duplicated throughout much of the rest of the game, where countless puzzles and enemies are only there to annoy you, not make the game fun.

Then there's the combat system. You essentially can win any fight by mashing Square (I think) repeatedly. The only real combat is with the camera and your allies, trying to get a view of the screen and trying to get your "allies" to actually help you. You can also put up a good struggle against the controls, trying to figure out which wrong context-sensetive action your character will do next.

I'm told there's a story in there, but I couldn't figure out WHY you were going between the worlds at all and what it was. Everything is just a confused mix of Final Fantasy and Disney characters.

Seriously, if you haven't played this game already, AVOID IT LIKE THE PLAGUE. It may look and sound nice, but it's an absolutely HORRID experience to play.

Re:Tron World? Huh?

[Kazzahdrane]

So basically, you weren't willing to invest the time in the game to read the dialogue and understand the plot. Yes, the gummi ship sections are pretty terrible. Thankfully, after the first few worlds you get a warp drive which lets you skip each gummi section once you have completed it once. I'm sorry to hear you hated the game so much, I think it's one of the best RPGs on the PS2.

Re:Tron World? Huh?

[Anonymous Coward]

It's certainly one of the better Square RPGs, that's for sure. At least the random encounters happened in a way that seemed more or less natural. The complaining poster is full of shit to claim you can win any fight by just mashing the same button - almost every boss battle required both jumping to key locations and using potions/items to survive.

Re:Tron World? Huh?

[Maserati]

Agreed. KH is no more a kids game than any of the FF series. It's a good storyline, with a good Active Time system and neat bosses to kill. Note that not only is interacting with the Disney classics and FF characters cool, but the original KH material is cool too (the end stages are very well designed).

Re:Tron World? Huh?

[sweetspooky]

I originally bought KH for the kids....but I ended up playing it long after they'd quit. And yeh, I hated the gummi ship stuff, too. But any game that includes Cloud and Sephiroth can't be bad.

Re:Tron World? Huh?

[mirror_ed123]

Anonymous... nice. 1) Its a crappy and short game I doubt you actually took the time to sit down and play it out otherwise the "short" part would not have come out. 2) Gummi Ship It is not an important part of the game but serves as a link to complete the game experience. You would notice that the ship reinforces the story line even more so (the story that there are multiple worlds out there and to save these worlds you would need to lock its heart). Though I grudgingly agree that this part of that game I can do without. 3) Battle Mashing [] You did not play the game in its entirety so your reasoning that the only way to win this is through mashing the square button is wrong. You are unaware of the many combos within this game and that your teammates do actually help you with the right configuration. 4) Horrid experience Why again? 5) My advice to you (Anonymous Coward)? Go play your Halo or DOA XBV

Disny?

[Anonymous Coward]

Much anticipated sequel to the original Square-Enix/Disny collaboration just became even more interesting.

obligatory nethack reference

[Anxarcule]

...so does this mean it will have GRID BUGS?

David Warner

[Supurcell]

I hope they get David Warner to reprize his role as the villian. This guy is my all time favorite bad guy. His voice has always given me chills. I'll never forget him as Jon Irenicus(Baldur's Gate II), the Evil Genius(Time Bandits), Ra's Al Ghul(Batman the Animated Series), The Archmage(Gargoyles), Gul Madred(Star Trek: TNG), and of course the bad guy from Tron.

Re:David Warner

[Dark_Lord_Prime]

Let's not forget "Jack the Ripper" in "Time After Time," or, my personal favorite, "The Lobe" in "Freakazoid!" :D

So the theme of the game world this time is...

[MilenCent]

Kingdom Hearts one had, as its theme, Disney animation. Which is well and good, because animation has historically been the thing Disney does best. Although many of the worlds of the game were wildly different from each other as to invite cognative dissonance (Jack Skellington and Alladin, Beast and those Final Fantasy dweebs?), at least they could cop to "Disney magic" being the theme, which, although it may be a lousy piece of corporate propaganda to build a game around, at least it attempted to dodge the issue.

And, the animation on the main Disney guys WAS pretty good.

This time around, they're putting Tron and Pirates of the Carribean into a game. For the characters in the game, no problem, these are just another set of "worlds" to travel though, they're supposed to be different from each other.

For the player, however, or to ME at least, this just seems like a lousy exercise in enhancing brand recognition. What's Disney-magical about Tron? When it came out, most people didn't even HAVE a computer.

Yeah, I bitched and moaned about the original Kingdom Hearts too. (Warning: link contains extreme invective.) No one listened to me then either. What's it gonna take, Kingdom Hearts 3, containing all the Buena Vista and Miramax characters? Is Sora and company going to run into Mr. 3000 and Hot Chick next? Will they go on a Mission to Mars to avert Armageddon? Play B-Ball with Air Bud? Will they meet Dante and Randall? Will they stick it to the corporate man alongside Michael Moore in a Fahrenheit 9/11 world, doing 9999 damage to a hulking George W. Bush? Will...

Dammit, I'd better stop. This is getting too cool.

Re:So the theme of the game world this time is...

[Anonymous Coward]

Dammit, mod parent up, even if only based on the KH3 game description :).

Re:It's Tron, not Kevin Flynn, and not Jeff Bridge

[Impotent_Emperor]

Tron was Allan's (Bruce Boxleitner) program, thus if they are using the same person we're looking at Bruce Boxleitner.

He was probably too busy having sex with Minbari. The pervert.

Re:It's Tron, not Kevin Flynn, and not Jeff Bridge

[Anonymous Coward]

JOHN: How many more rituals are there?

Delenn searches her mind, holds her fingers up as if counting. (Personal Note: This scene is really very cute and a great show of they're humor with each other)

DELENN: Depending on the length of time we take before fully committing to one another, which clan is in dominance at the time, the types and amounts of offerings made at temple, as many as . . .forty seven? No, fifty.

JOHN: Fifty?!

DELENN: Fifty.

JOHN: (sounding desperate) Anyone ever elope on your world?

DELENN: It has happened. But it is always a great disgrace-

JOHN: -disgrace to the family, the caste, the clan. Got it.

DELENN: That's why Minbari do not have problems with relationships. We have a ritual for everything. For being together, for being apart, for meeting, for saying goodbye, for solving disputes.

Resigns to his fate-

JOHN: All right, all right, all right. Which is this one?

DELENN: It is called "Shan Fal". The third movement of preparation and mutual understanding.

JOHN: Oh, that one, yeah.

DELENN: In a little while, you'll come to my quarters where we spend the night together, discovering one another's centers of pleasure. It is done with great deliberation, prayerfully, with respect and meditation. It is good for us to know all we can about one another should we continue the joining of our hearts and blood. So, you can meet me there.

Delenn stands, moves to walk out.

DELENN: Unless, of course, you can find something of equal value sitting here and staring at plants and feeling guilty about things you cannot change.

Delenn leaves. John sits quite for a moment.

JOHN: N-n-n-nope!

---

Sheridan, looking very tired, walks into the lift just outside Delenn's quarters. Lennier is there. Confused, he turns to Sheridan.

LENNIER: "Woo Hoo?"

Disney, keep your toons away from Tron.

[El_Muerte_TDS]

Seriously. Your toons have no business within the Tron world. The movie was great, Tron the game was a worthfull addaption\sequel on the movie. But please DO NOT LES YOUR DONALD\MICKEY toons in this wonderfull world. The only thing you will do is ruin it for the few Tron fans you've got left.

Re:Disney, keep your toons away from Tron.

[Sinryc]

Tron fans? From what I hear the movie SUCKED. Also, why not allow it in there? If the script is good, then screw it, allow it.

Re:Disney, keep your toons away from Tron.

[Sinryc]

Not trolling, stating my opinion.

First 3 comments

[AmiMoJo]

First 3 comments from the thread with the picture:

1. Holy shit x10
2. OMFG, is that TRON!?
3. NO FUCKING WAY

To which I'd just like to add OMFGROFLOL!!?! Dizney p0wns!!!

Maybe Disney are aiming at a more mature audience? (Their usual target is 1-5, right?)

Re:First 3 comments

[thesnarky1]

That's funny, because the next 30 responses are exactly the same. My guess is we have retarded monkeys who keep typing the same thing because they can't remember thet just did.