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Google Base Launches

An anonymous reader writes "As announced on the Google Blog, Google Base has finally launched. According to Google, Google Base enables content owners to easily make their information searchable online. Anyone, from large companies to website owners and individuals, can use it to submit their content in the form of data items. We'll host the items and make them searchable for free."

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  1. Data integrity by afaik_ianal · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Does anyone know what they are planning on doing to make sure data is up to date?

    I can just see things happening like a school putting up all of their course information and not keeping it up to date.

    1. Re:Data integrity by afaik_ianal · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I agree that there are a lot of mistakes on the web, but I'd expect it to be harder to keep Google Base up to date because if an organisation is going to make a website, they have a lot more work to do up front (register a domain, buy hosting, create the actual site).

      I imagine it would be quite common for someone from an IT department to hear about Base, decide to put up ad hoc info about his organisation, then forget about it. That's far less likely for a website.

      Further to that, websites are currently organisations' primary presence on the internet. A secondary presence like Base is likely to fall by the way side before their website does.

    2. Re:Data integrity by hendrix69 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      >> Does anyone know what they are planning on doing to make sure data is up to date?

      I think items automatically expire within a maximum of 31 days.

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    3. Re:Data integrity by mindriot · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I think this is a real issue. [...] this idea has great potential. [...] this will have many problems. What's to stop this from suffering under a heavy load of spam, honest mistakes, and deliberate mischeif?

      s/this/the Internet/g;

      Yes, sure it will be subject to deliberate mischief. But the same goes for the Internet as a whole—because, well, those pesky humans are using it.

      I wouldn't be so pessimistic about it. The problems of spam, mistakes, and deliberate mischief aren't technical ones, they're social ones. That's why I think that technological advances for acquiring information are more of a good thing than a bad thing. Don't hail the information you get as the Ultimate Truth ("I saw it on the Internet, it must be true!")—rather, as always, proceed with caution...

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  3. Restricted to "content owners"? by ReformedExCon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Does the TOS really restrict this? And does such a clause make it necessary for them to police the database for infringements?

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  4. It sounds great, just like Wikipedia by MattskEE · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Like Wikipedia, this idea has great potential. Like Wikipedia, this will have many problems. What's to stop this from suffering under a heavy load of spam, honest mistakes, and deliberate mischeif?

  5. So wait... by Ctrl+Alt+De1337 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So, regular Google is their search crawlers going out and indexing information, while Google Base is people submitting information to be indexed in categories that submitters assign themselves. Is that right? Or is there more to this? Is this like a subsection of the search engine, or an informal free webhosting service? I'm just not sure of what this is or why it's necessary.

  6. Re:World Domination by Patrik_AKA_RedX · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well, it would be the first oppressive regime that makes information easily available to its minions.

  7. Hmm...Porn? by CriminalNerd · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sexual Content
    (Adult) Posting is not permitted for the promotion of child pornography or other non-consensual material.

    Does that mean people are allowed to post most of their pr0n? That would be...disturbing...Interesting for others, but not for the soccer moms.

  8. Re:API? by hagrin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There will still be a need for mySQL/SQL Server/other DB options for certain types of applications like forums, etc. However, you're 100% right, with an API the possibilities are endless in terms of what you could include in their indexing.

    The one factor that will keep this happening is performance and speed. Adding an additional 2 hops for database content won't make much sense for web applications. I can't see replacing local network queries with external queries to Google's Base system. Good call though on the API.

  9. open the API, many sites suddenly become redundant by davejenkins · · Score: 4, Insightful

    sites like vehix.com, orbitz.com, and finance.yahoo.com are essentially taking data from some goofy mainframe format (Reynolds & Reynolds, edgar, etc) and simply skinning it and making it searchable via the web. If those original database holders (data OEMs if you will) decide to plug in here, many of those sites just took a giant step toward redundancy.

    I don't think such sites are kaput, because the retail experience holds something of value in and of itself (all the customer care bits). But Google gets a helluva lot more powerful, certainly.

  10. Re:Good for 'public' sites by DMouse · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Don't you see that it's not about being useful for joe average, but as a way for people to feed google pre-digested data feeds that describe their websites. This is a white hat search engine optimisation tool. And the fact that you can upload content using ftp to upload rss files just makes it a walk in the park. Really, too friggen easy.

    The fact that I am thinking about uploading my local job site's content just so that i can actually search it is beside the point, right? ;-)

  11. 30 Day Expiration? by SledgeHBK · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Most types of items (such as products, services, housing, autos, wanted ads, jobs, travel, events, and news) automatically expire after 30 days. "

    I'm kinda confused. Is this only referring to the actual commercial items being put up for sale, or is applying to most everything?

    I was going to tell my fiancee about this and get her started on creating her own model horse database (she's a collector). I don't think it would be a good way to go if the above is true.

    Could somebody clarify this for me and/or show me some sort of good out-of-the-box software that could be used in this way (collection of items, with pictures, description, etc.).

  12. Re:API? by DysenteryInTheRanks · · Score: 2, Insightful
    How incredibly useful. One could, say, write a content management system that runs on google base rather than mysql or whatever.

    I know! Just imagine: the sophistication of a MySQL database plus the speed of an HTTP connection!

    It's sort of like putting your money in a piggybank -- a piggybank not in your bedroom, but on *the other side of town*.

  13. Copyright violations? by mikeburke · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I can imagine this becoming a great source of copyright issues - google you have no way of knowing where your content came from - pictures, reference articles - even recipes. For example it's really not hard to imagine someone posting up all the recipes from their Delia Smith cookbook collection.

    Who is going to police all this aggregated, easily searched content? The only rational strategy for google is to wash their hands of it and have some kind of content editors responsible for acting on complaints.

    Sure, this issue isn't exactly new to the internet, but by storing it, indexing it, making a tidy profit from it (via adwords) and no doubt painting a nice, publically available API over it, I find it hard to believe it won't be long before various organisations are up in arms.

  14. What about copyright? by adnonsense · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A brief search reveals some recipies reproduced from an external site. There is a link provided, but no indication what copyright the recipie is under; the same for a recipie copied from Wikibooks (a clear GFDL violation).

  15. Re:Google Consolidating All Info For Advertising? by moonbender · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In theory, with all the editorial mistakes and dupes, that we all know and love, the only thing that's really holding everything together is the community.

    You make that sound as if it's a little thing. Slashdot is all about the community. If I want news (and I do), I read other sites - Ars, The Register, heise, and others (freshmeat comes to mind for the Linux geeks). If I wanted to know stuff even faster (and I don't), I guess I'd subscribe to a million blogs. Anyway, Slashdot certainly isn't about the news, it probably makes for one of the worst news outlets ever. But Slashdot has a one of a kind community. It's mostly just really, really large, which entails that there are a lot of idiots in there, but a few smart people, too, and usually a real expert on every issue. The news stuff is really just a way to make a substantial percentage of those people focus on a single issue. I think posting random computer-related topics from Wikipedia would accomplish much the same - and in all likelihood it would still be news more often, too. ;)

    Sorry for going on a wild tangent here, I sometimes feel like I have to justify why I'm still reading Slashdot after such a long time. ;)

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  16. Re:API? by kosmosik · · Score: 4, Insightful

    > The one factor that will keep this happening is performance and speed.

    The other (probably the most important) problem will be with legal options (like terms of use).

  17. 'WTF' by slashmojo · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Just tried to create my own item type with it and entered a few random chars for the name.. 'sdfgsd' and it was rejected with 'misspelled: sdfgsd'

    So I tried again with another set of random chars with the same result.. so I thought wtf?! Its my item, I decide what it is called and how it should be spelled!

    So for fun I tried again with 'wtf' and strangely it was accepted and I was presented with a new screen titled 'wtf - edit item'

    'lol' is also accepted by 'lmao' is not..

    Well thats the extent of my scientific research so far on this issue.

  18. Nope. Google is the Arkwright of Information by Colin+Smith · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Go look Arkwright up (Industrial Revolution). They're changing everything.

    You see, people don't really want computers, they just want the services they provide.

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  19. Isn't this scary? by ecbpro · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You always have to think that nothing comes for free! Obviously google will want to use all the informations you store there. Do you really believe you can trust google and store your corporate informations on their servers. Google will start to know everything: Your search habits, your email contacts (via gmail) and now your favourite recipies. It's great for them, they can now make the perfect customer profiling out of all the data you store on their servers!
    As people like to say: Trust is good, control is better