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Apple Planning Intel iBook Debut for January?

axonis writes "Apple is planning to release its first entry-level iBook laptops with Intel processors next January at Macworld Expo in San Francisco, highly reliable sources have confirmed to Think Secret." From the article: "Apple will almost certainly tap Intel's forthcoming Yonah processor for the iBooks, a successor to the company's Pentium M. It is unknown whether Apple will go with a dual-core version of the processor, slated for release in January, or a single-core version, which Intel announced in August would be delivered shortly after the dual-core version. The dual-core Yonah chip could very likely deliver performance greater than Apple's current G4-based PowerBooks."

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  1. oh, and one more thing... by BushCheney08 · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Oh, and one more thing...That whole thing about switching to Intel was just a joke..."

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  2. Leaked Picture link here! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
  3. Found out via a few 'poison apples' at the Duke... by digitaldc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...of Edinburgh pub.

    "I don't see a need for Apple to go much below $1,000 unless they are going to offer a really low-end iBook with really low-end features," he said. "Cheap (Windows-based) notebooks are just that. Cheap. They have low-resolution, small hard drives, little memory. Apple doesn't need to compete their. They could keep the price the same and offer more. If you're going to lower prices (on iBooks), then lower them on the high end, and add a third, higher-end model that comes at $1,299."

    Spelling nazis rejoice!

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  4. Re:How many? by ciroknight · · Score: 5, Informative

    "enough". Apple's been silently distrubiting updates as fat-binaries. It's very likely you won't notice, or even care for that matter, but I'm sure in a few [weeks/months/years] someone will have a binary stripper to remove the unnessicary part of the Universal Binary.

    I think Apple just gave mid summer as an estimate to give the developers of 3rd party applications more time, as well as themselves if they needed it. Now they've figured out that the developers were quick to transition, everyone's bitting at the chops, and delaying it any longer seems to be a bad idea. Can't wait to get my hands on one.

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  5. I want to see... by AugstWest · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...how they implement the instant-on stuff. None of this "hibernation" crap, when I open my powerbook, I start working. Done and done.

    And it it can be easily implemented on Intel arch, why hasn't it been done?

  6. Right Timing by _eb0la_reston_ · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The announcement date (Jan 2006 at Macworld San Francisco) makes sense: January sales figures are flatline.

    Apple, usually makes new product announcements on January:

        * 2005 - iPod Shuffle
        * 2004 - iPod Mini / XServe G5
        * 2003 - 20" Cinema Display + New Powermacs + New iBooks + iLife + Safari + Final Cut Express
        * 2002 - New iMacs + 12" iBook + iPhoto + OSX installed by default on new machines...
        * 2001 - Titanium iBook.

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  7. Re:How many? by jcr · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm sure in a few [weeks/months/years] someone will have a binary stripper to remove the unnessicary part of the Universal Binary.

    This has been in NeXTSTEP and Mac OS X all along. See /usr/bin/lipo on any Mac OS X machine.

    -jcr

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  8. Re:Don't buy this. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    People who use the word 'boxen' don't get a vote on what computer I buy.

  9. Re:How many? by larkost · · Score: 5, Informative

    Where are you getting these "quite clear" positions?

    Adobe was prominently on stage for the announcement of Apple moving to Intel and promised their eventual support. They did say that there was going to be a bit of work because they were still a PowerPlant house, but they were going to make the transition.

    And that does not take into account the recent announcement from Metroworks that they were going to make a PowerPlant Mac/Intel version of their compiler after all. That could make the transition much easier. I would still rather that they moved over to an XCode project, but that might not be convenient with the requirement that this build quickly on both MacOS X and Windows from the same codebase (it is of course possible... I am talking about convenient).

    Now Apple has released a few great products recently, and in the video space they are directly competing with Adobe... although most people would say that they are more accurately competing against Avid... But in the image space: I can't think of any product that Adobe makes that compares with Aperture... unless you talk about the image browser in Photoshop, and that is really stretching things. Aperture is going to sell more copies of Photoshop.

  10. Re:Don't buy this. by djdavetrouble · · Score: 5, Funny

    When you buy an Intel PowerBook, you're buying into the most evil technology imaginable

    Funny, I can imagine much more evil technology than an Intel Powerbook,
    Starting off with something along the lines of a gigantic painful death ray that dissolves your skin first
    then fries your nerve endings before it finally boils your blood and liquifies your bones, thereby killing you
    until you die to death. Now THATS evil.
    Even a laptop that shocks you when you make spelling errors seems more evil to me, Or a Gateway 2000,
    Or that little wiggly controller on IBM thinkpads, the mousenipple or whatever it is called... Folks, me and my
    imagination have all day to out evil the Intel Powerbook. Apparently you, Sir, have underestimated me in your
    hyperbolic haste.

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  11. Re:Is the G4 really that good? by pohl · · Score: 5, Informative
    Yeah, the G4 really is a nice little laptop processor if you can feed it instructions and data fast enough. Sadly, most G4 machines were unable to do this consistently because of the bus and the type of memory modules. The latest iteration of the PowerBooks made an improvement in this regard. The processor isn't much faster than the last rev, but these machines feel much faster, probably because of the increased bandwidth between the processor and memory. For audio applications like GarageBand, the AltiVec unit really increases the effective instructions-per-clock. The way they've offloaded a lot of work onto the GPU has helped to extend the life of the G4 too.

    I'm sure they've run out of ways to squeeze more out of it, though.

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  12. Re:How many? by kuwan · · Score: 5, Insightful
    +5 Informative!? WTF?

    This guy's talking out of his ass. First of all, Metrowerks has not made any announcements that they will make a Mac/Intel version of CodeWarrior (CodeWarrior is the compiler, PowerPlant is the framework). In fact, Metrowerks announced that CodeWarrior 10 would be the last release of CodeWarrior for the Mac platform. Period. End of story. That's why the latest release is so cheap ($99, download only). Also, Metrowerks no longer even exists as a company inside of Motorola. All Metrowerks/Motorola is doing for PowerPlant (the C++ GUI framework) is releasing it as open source so that someone else will be able to port it to MacIntel, they aren't going to be doing any of the Intel work.

    The main reason CodeWarrior had to come to an end on the Mac is because Metrowerks/Motorola sold all of it's x86 compiler technology to a third party, Nokia I believe. They no longer have the rights to develop an x86 version of CodeWarrior. No x86 version means no future on the Mac. Though many of us have seen the writing on the wall for a long time and have expected CodeWarrior to come to an end sooner rather than later.

    Adobe will be moving to Xcode because everyone has to move to Xcode. There is no other option.

    Also, to put the Adobe comments into context, Adobe's CEO Bruce Chizen had an interview with CNet where he discussed the difficulties in the transition as well as Adobe's possible timeframe:
    Q: I wanted to get your take on Apple's switch to Intel. How difficult is the process of migrating apps from platform to platform?
    Chizen: Steve (Jobs) likes to trivialize the process and make it seem easy, but moving the apps over is not that easy...Getting over to MacTel is work...

    Q: What are the early returns from the people doing some of the work with the developer market? Not that easy, is it?
    Chizen: It's not that easy because you have to compile the app, you have to test it. If you look at most testing cycles, for any complex cycle, for any complex product, that's three or four months until it's out. You just can't turn a switch and get a MacTel product--and Steve knows that.

    Q: So, when do you think that Adobe will be ready to take Photoshop?
    Chizen: I haven't given a date yet... If you look at our product cycles for products like Photoshop and Creative Suite, they tend to be in the 18- to 24-month cycle, which means that you're talking about either Q4 of '06 or Q1 of '07.

    Contrary to what a lot of mindless posters think, the transition is a lot of work and will be very difficult for many companies.