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British Spammer Gets 6 Years

Killjoy_NL writes "The BBC tells us that a 23 year old spammer has been sentenced to 6 years in prison for sending spam and other illegal activities." From the article: "He had offered thousands of e-mail and website names when he had no right. And when victims complained, he threatened to destroy their internet systems by sending millions of spam e-mails. Peterborough Crown Court heard he also threatened to fire-bomb the headquarters of the county's trading standards department and petrol-bomb his local police headquarters. When internet policing group Nominet posted warnings about his activities, he responded by saying he would attack its servers." ZDNet has coverage as well.

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  1. Title Misleading by mysqlrocks · · Score: 5, Informative

    FTA

    Peter Francis-Macrae, of St Neots, Cambs, was found guilty of threatening to kill and blackmail.

    Yes, he was a spammer but that's not what he was sentenced for.

    1. Re:Title Misleading by Iriel · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Precisly: this kid should be better labled as a terrorist or a thug (not the hip-hop variety) rather than a spammer. I still find it horrible that he was cleared of two accounts of threatening to kill.

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    2. Re:Title Misleading by Tackhead · · Score: 5, Funny
      > > Peter Francis-Macrae, of St Neots, Cambs, was found guilty of threatening to kill and blackmail.
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      > Yes, he was a spammer but that's not what he was sentenced for.

      Yes, but it sounds like he thre@tened to ki1l and b1ackmai1 so many people that the threats themselves qualified as spam :-)

    3. Re:Title Misleading by cindy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's like a bank robber who drove a car to the bank. "Motorist Gets 6 Years!" The article only mentions spamming in context of his other crimes.

      Francis-Macrae was found guilty of two counts of fraudulent trading, one of concealing criminal property, two of making threats to kill, one charge of threatening to destroy or damage property and one count of blackmail.

      The 23-year-old was cleared of two charges of making threats to kill.

    4. Re:Title Misleading by Bogtha · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yes, he was a spammer but that's not what he was sentenced for.

      Somebody pointed this out last time Slashdot posted this story. But hey, if Slashdot can post misleading stories twice, we can post corrections twice, right?

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    5. Re:Title Misleading by Thwomp · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Really, they were not so much threatening as embarrassing. When I heard them on the news I couldn't help but laugh. He probably got off because there was no intent and was panicking as the police were closing in on him. Although it's a shame that all the people he scammed will probably never see their money again.

    6. Re:Title Misleading by CyricZ · · Score: 4, Insightful

      He's not a "terrorist". His actions were apparently not politically motivated. It sounds like he was just trying to defend his business from those who opposed it.

      I know it's trendy these days for political leaders to refer to anyone they don't like as "terrorists", but I think we can maintain a higher standard here and use the word as it should be used.

      "Thug" is perhaps a more appropriate term.

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    7. Re:Title Misleading by sydb · · Score: 4, Funny

      Right.

      Now mods, I may be redundant but my twin is Funny.

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    8. Re:Title Misleading by Iriel · · Score: 2, Insightful

      While you are correct in the modern context (and current dictionary definition) of the word, the roots of the word itself imply that a terrorist is traditionally someone who uses fear tactics and general psychological fuckery to further their goals (see also: The current US presidency). If this thug is threatening to fire-bomb and murder a few people in order to protect his scamming business, I would classify him as a low-level terrorist, however poorly organized.

      That's just my 22 cents ;)

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    9. Re:Title Misleading by Buran · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Defending one's business is one thing, but threatening to attack other people who point out that your business is based on dishonesty and illegality is another entirely. I'd say he got what he deserved, regardless of whether or not "terrorist" is the right term (I agree that it isn't).

    10. Re:Title Misleading by karnal · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's a technical term. Like Shittery.

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    11. Re:Title Misleading by SomeoneGotMyNick · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The problem is that "terrorist" is a heavy word nowadays.

      Actually, it's used more like Kleenex is used for a tissue, or Scotch Tape is used for cellophane tape, Band-Aid for bandage, etc....

      Criminal == Terrorist

  2. Only six? by slashrogue · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm sure it's easy to dismiss out of hand comments about bomb-threats from some random guy as actually being serious, but they must be taken seriously and from the proliferate amount of threats and general assholery, surely this guy deserves more than six years as a life lesson.

  3. 2 much or 2 little? by yiantsbro · · Score: 5, Insightful

    At first glance you think "6 years for spam...damn that's harsh". Then you read what else he did and you think "damn, only 6 years"?

    1. Re:2 much or 2 little? by blastard · · Score: 2, Funny

      If someone has a good sense of humour they should send his cellmate a 6 year supply of the "generic viagra". :)

    2. Re:2 much or 2 little? by Fafnir43 · · Score: 2, Funny

      At first glance you think "6 years for spam...damn that's harsh". Actually, as far as I'm concerned there's only one fit punishment for a spammer: 1) Nail his genitalia to a tree. 2) Hand him a butter knife. 3) Set the tree on fire. 4) If he survives step 3, shoot him. (No sense in risking re-offence!) Seriously, these people take the pristine fountain of communication that is e-mail and, with malice of forethought, piss in it. Six years is too light a sentence for a prolific spammer.

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  4. bait and switch by JeanBaptiste · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This was a lot less about his spamming activities and a lot more about the "threatened to fire-bomb the headquarters of the county's trading standards department and petrol-bomb his local police headquarters." part.

    The fact that he was also a spammer is a side-story. Had he not done the other stuff, I'm sure he'd still be happily spamming away.

    And after looking at the picture, what a smarmy little punk.

  5. Jailed more for fraud than spamming by external400kdiskette · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I know it's nice to think some guy peddling generic viagra got put away for 6 years but this guy seems to have other serious issues:

    "The 23-year-old was also convicted of threatening to destroy or damage property, concealing criminal property and fraudulent trading. "

    It doesn't appear he was even charged with spamming, "Francis-Macrae was found guilty of two counts of fraudulent trading, one of concealing criminal property, two of making threats to kill, one charge of threatening to destroy or damage property and one count of blackmail. ".

    And when he's making 100k pounds per week I doubt that many ppl are paying for junk, he prob was scamming somehow.

  6. Good Riddance. by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 4, Insightful


    Jackass. Interesting that this particular model citizen didn't stop with mere spamming, but added arson threats and murder threats to his repitoire. Hopefully, this will serve to further erase the fictitous dividing line between spammers and "real criminals".

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  7. TheReg had it earlier... by anonymo · · Score: 2, Informative

    'Vindictive' UK spammer jailed for six years
    http://www.theregister.com/2005/11/17/spammer_jail ed/

    Good news!

  8. Domain Registry Of Europe by hattig · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I think it was this guy.

    He sent out fake renewal notices to people, using whois data. The notices asked for a renewal fee of around £60 for 2 years renewal.

    I reported that company several times to trading standards, as my line of work was in the same area, and it was affecting my customers who would get in contact and ask about their renewal status, that they'd sent in the cheque a while ago... this happened dozens of times, and I was running a tiny internet company.

    His response? He moved his company to a Mailboxes Etc (Regent Street, Cambridge, UK) that I also used, thus sullying my companies name. Mailboxes Etc were not interested in the fact that their customer was a scammer.

  9. Any yet, stuffing ballot boxes... by Colin+Smith · · Score: 2, Interesting

    2 year sentence. Ahhh, the oldest democracy, nice to see we have our priorities spot on.

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  10. Good! by Whackjob23 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now hopefully he'll know the feeling of having unwanted items shoved into his inbox. Or outbox, depending upon your view of that type of thing....

  11. He's keeping the money? by external400kdiskette · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "During the trial, Francis-Macrae defied Judge Nicholas Coleman QC by refusing to reveal where he hid up to £425,000, saying Cambridgeshire Police would "steal" it."

    That'd be an outrage if he really ends up with all that, they should make a condition he never gets released unless he says where he hid the cash if he withdrew it or moves it all back into the UK if he transferred his profits offshore. Otherwise he should rot in jail forever.

  12. Death threat=spam? by D-Fens · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wouldn't a death threat be "unsolicited?"

  13. It was the threats which sunk him by Demerara · · Score: 2, Informative

    It was the malevolence of his threats which sunk him.

    Peterborough Crown Court heard he also threatened to fire-bomb the headquarters of the county's trading standards department and petrol-bomb his local police headquarters.

    Just the spamming alone wouldn't have got him such a sentence.

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  14. I blame the parents. by borkus · · Score: 4, Funny

    Okay, at least his dad. According to the BBC article,

    Francis-Macrae, who made more than £100,000 per week from the scam, spent £28,000 on designer clothes and on learning to fly helicopters

    If any of my offspring are over 18 and wandering around the house in an outfit that's more than my mortgage payment, they best get packing - quickly. Oh, and they need to get that helicopter out of the front yard - it's murder on the azaleas.

  15. Re:Speaking of spam... by Requiem+Aristos · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gondwanaland

    Apart from the incorrect spelling, Gondwanaland was one of two supercontinents resulting from the breakup of Pangaea. (The other was Laurasia.) It came into existence around 200 million years ago, then began to break up around 160 million years ago.

  16. Nominet is not a policing organisation by nicolaiplum · · Score: 3, Informative

    Nominet is hardly a policing organisation. They are operate the registry for uk. and so I expect they got a lot of complaints about him and decided to warn other people.
    Also his main crime was not spamming, but simple fraud: offering to sell that which he was not entitled to sell.
    This is poor sub-editing even by Slashdot, and BBC technology, standards.

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  17. Title Not So Misleading by tzot · · Score: 2, Informative
    He's not a "terrorist". His actions were apparently not politically motivated.
    Terrorists are not just those who terrorize for political reasons.

    B (terrorists) is a superset of A (terrorists with political motives>, so for every x in A, x in B is implied; I believe we agree on that. What you just said is that x is not a member of A, therefore he isn't a member of B too, which logically is flawed.

    What do you call someone who threats to bomb a building unless they are offered a large amount of money? Do they have to actually bomb the building to earn the title "terrorist"?

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  18. Re:You're still not understanding the situation. by Guysmiley777 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    for whatever reason

    For whatever reason?!? THAT IS THE FRAUD! Good God man! They sent him money because he sent out notifications to domain name holders based on WHOIS info and told them to pay up or lose their domain name.

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  19. Re:You're still not understanding the situation. by Guysmiley777 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Interesting, you believe that fraud should be legal because only irresponsible people would "fall for it"? I can't really argue that point any more than saying I disagree.

    But, hey, thanks for the name calling, that's very mature! And kudos for the straw-man there too, if you can't argue the point argue the opponent!

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  20. Re:Appropriate jail-time for spammers by nsasch · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A month? Spam costs corporations a lot of money, I can't estimate it though. If it takes you 1 minute to filter the spam out of your e-mail, and half a billion people have e-mail accounts, spammers are responsible for half a billion minutes per day. Time is money, and that's a lot of money. Spammers make foolish people on the internet lose their money as well.

    I feel that spammers should get at least a year in prison. A second in jail for every e-mail sent sounds reasonable. If an e-mail takes a second to delete, even though it actually takes longer, the criminal is making up for his crime equally with the wasted time of the victims. If one spammer sends 1 million e-mails a day, that's 11 days per day of spam.

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  21. Re:Fly? by nsasch · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yuck! Helicopters. He deserves far more. I'm just glad he hasn't made himself a real part of the aviation community! My theory on helicopters: They can't really fly, they're just so ugly, the Earth repels them.

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