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The Lego Brick Hard Drive

Billosaur writes "With Lego being in the news after completion of their lawsuit against Mega Bloks, I found this interesting little tidbit on Boing Boing, about a company that makes stackable Lego Brick-shaped Hard Drives. With Hi-Speed USB 2.0 interface, it offers the fast data transfer rates required for substantial jobs like downloading digital photos, saving MP3s or transferring home videos from a camcorder. Available desktop models are: 160GB (white), 250GB (red), 300GB (blue) and 500GB (red). But can you build a Star Destroyer out of them?"

133 comments

  1. Not lego sized, just lego shaped by dada21 · · Score: 5, Informative

    These hard drives are LEGO shaped but not LEGO sized. It mimics the look and feel of a LEGO brick but it really isn't compatible (unless the bottom has much smaller divisions).

    Stackable hard drives is a fine idea but I'd like to take one apart to see how ventilation is. I've had a much higher failure rate in external drives than internal drives (almost 3:1) over the past 6 years. I still wonder if it is heat or just bad power supplies in these things.

    I'm more of a monotoned desktop kind of guy -- if I'm OCD about anything at all, it is definitely crazy colors all over the place. I think on my desktop (where I could have up to 5 different sized external drives depending on projects in action), these drives could end up looking like a bad website from the early days: color hell.

    I think the pricing is decent though, and would love a breakdown of what "Power Supply Kit" means and how hardy these things are.

    1. Re:Not lego sized, just lego shaped by Andrewkov · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Internal drives tend to not be thrown in backpacks and generally abused, though.

    2. Re:Not lego sized, just lego shaped by SysSupport · · Score: 3, Funny
      Note to self:

      Do not use Lego shaped drive to host web site.

    3. Re:Not lego sized, just lego shaped by GeckoX · · Score: 1

      Not all external drives are toted around.

      I've had 2 die on me in the last 5 years. Both just sat on my desk attached to a usb hub. Neither was even 2 years old at the time of death.

      Whereas, I'm currently using ~12 internal hd's between work, laptop, and home. All over 2 years old, most over 4, a couple almost 8 years old.

      I've only ever killed one internal hd myself, and it was a pos that I kinda expected to go.

      But you are correct too, hd's that are toted around all the time, possibly even dropped, are absolutely going to fail more frequently. It's almost a guarantee at some point.

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    4. Re:Not lego sized, just lego shaped by b1t+r0t · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Stackable hard drives is a fine idea but I'd like to take one apart to see how ventilation is. I've had a much higher failure rate in external drives than internal drives (almost 3:1) over the past 6 years. I still wonder if it is heat or just bad power supplies in these things.

      Sometimes it's the drive itself. Sometimes it's the fan, a friend of mine had two of a specific model where the fan went bad, then I checked one of mine and its fan was dead too. Sometimes it's the power supply; I think that's the real reason they're all using external power bricks these days, more so than the safety issue of having semi-exposed AC wiring with a built-in power supply. And sometimes it could be the controller card; I have one with a dead Firewire port, good thing they come in pairs.

      All that being said, I wouldn't want one of these without a Firewire port. It's kind of sad that a long-time seller of external drives for the Macintosh now sells a model of external case with only USB support.

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    5. Re:Not lego sized, just lego shaped by InvalidError · · Score: 4, Informative

      If my experience with external enclosures is any indication, I would bet on the power supplies.

      Most cheap/small PSUs use flyback topology and decoupling capacitors that have AC ripple ratings well below what they should be. Ordinary 1000-2200uF capacitors have AC ripple ratings under 1A and a service life of 2000-5000h at that rating. On 2-3A 5-12V rails with flyback PSU, this 1A(rms) rating is easily exceeded. This is why I have made it a standard practice to replace bulk decoupling capacitors in my storage boxes and PC PSUs by 2700uF caps rated for 7000+h at 3.6A ripple supplemented with surface-mounted 10uF MLCC caps to relieve the electrolytic caps from harmonics in the 100kHz-10MHz range wherever possible.

      When output capacitors age in a flyback PSU, their impedance increase and the capacitors becomes unable to absorb high-frequency energy. This causes spikes in the output voltage and if the PSU does not have a proper shunt regulator or over-voltage crowbar circuitry, those spikes can definitely kill electronics - I have seen/measured microsecond-scale spikes go as high as 15V on a 5V rail and 20V on a 12V rail.

    6. Re:Not lego sized, just lego shaped by kzinti · · Score: 2, Interesting

      But modern hard drives have non-operating shock ratings in the hundreds of G's. If hard drives were so fragile that they couldn't be toted around in a backpack, then laptops would be useless.

      Ventilation and cooling is what bothers me with these drives. I had a 500GB Lacie drive in which BOTH drives failed within days of each other. I never carried the drive arround except packed in its original cushioned box. I suspect that heat killed those drives. When I replaced the unit with a 1TB model, I was sure never to operate it any longer than necessary - which means just long enough to make a backup. The newer disk also has a fan in it, small but enough to move some cool air through the enclosure. So far the new disk has held up well.

    7. Re:Not lego sized, just lego shaped by ZorinLynx · · Score: 1

      It doesn't take much to generate hundreds of Gs of shock.

      A three-foot drop onto a hard surface can do it easily. Banging it against your desk accidentally can do it as well.

      Hundreds of Gs sounds like "a lot", but in the context of collisions between hard objects, it's very easy to get there.

      -Z

    8. Re:Not lego sized, just lego shaped by Brian-esser.com · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't say a 3 foot drop from an object light as a hard drive is going to create hundreds of G's. Indy cars traveling over 200mph hitting a wall only produce in the mid 150's.

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    9. Re:Not lego sized, just lego shaped by grahamlee · · Score: 1
      a 3 foot drop from an object light as a hard drive
      ma=GMm/r^2 so an object as light a a hard drive will hit the deck as fast as an object as light as a hard-drive-shaped block of uranium.
    10. Re:Not lego sized, just lego shaped by Matthaeus · · Score: 1

      Indy cars crumple and have that crumple zone to deccelerate. Hard drives don't crumple; they just stop. So the instantaneous acceleration is much greater, even if the mass and speed isn't as high.

    11. Re:Not lego sized, just lego shaped by karnal · · Score: 4, Funny

      Was it just me, or did anyone else read that first paragraph of the parent-to-this comment and think "But does it make your computer sound any warmer?" :)

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    12. Re:Not lego sized, just lego shaped by corngrower · · Score: 1

      By my calculations, a race car going a little over 200 mph hitting a solid wall and stopping in a distance of 4 feet would experience an acceleration (deceleration) very close to 400 g.

    13. Re:Not lego sized, just lego shaped by Brian-esser.com · · Score: 1

      Nascar driver Jerry Nadeau hit the wall at speed and the g meter in the car registered 160 G's.

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    14. Re:Not lego sized, just lego shaped by br0ck · · Score: 1

      Couldn't this just be because the crumple of the car absorbed a huge amount of the energy? Wouldn't the G force at the bumper be much higher?

    15. Re:Not lego sized, just lego shaped by corngrower · · Score: 1

      That would mean he had 10 feet to come to a complete stop instead of 4 (not directly head on) or that the car had slowed somewhat prior to hitting the wall. The 160 G is a reasonable number for the accelerometer to have read, I don't doubt that.

    16. Re:Not lego sized, just lego shaped by corngrower · · Score: 1
      Wrong equation - d = 1/2 at^2 or a = v^2/2d

      Velocity of object dropped from about 3.2 feet - about 13 ft/sec. Take stopping distance at .01 inches and you come up with acceleration around 2500G

    17. Re:Not lego sized, just lego shaped by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 1
      ma=GMm/r^2 so an object as light a a hard drive will hit the deck as fast as an object as light as a hard-drive-shaped block of uranium

      That would be right, if we were on the Moon. On Earth, though, we have an atmosphere. In an atmosphere, when you drop two objects of the same size and shape, the heavier one falls faster. Try this. Take two shoe boxes, one empty, and one full of bricks. Drop them both from 6 feet, or whatever you can comfortably reach. The brick-filled shoe box wins easily.

      The reason for this is that the drag force does not depend on the mass, but the acceleration does. So, two objects of same size and shape, moving at a given velocity, have the same drag force, but the acceleration caused by that force, a=F/m, is smaller for the heavier object.

      Basically, gravity scales. For a more massive object, you get more force from gravity, which exactly cancels out the reduction in acceleration you'd get by having more mass, and the result is constant acceleration independent of mass. But for other forces, they don't scale with mass like that, and so acceleration is a function of mass.

      You can also see this coasting a bike downhill. A heavy person pulls ahead of a light person.

    18. Re:Not lego sized, just lego shaped by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you, Captain Obviousman. You've just explained a basic physics concept to a bunch of nerds. What other wonderous nuggets of wisdom do you have for us today?

    19. Re:Not lego sized, just lego shaped by giberti · · Score: 1

      I've had both internal and external drives fail. SCSI, ATA and EIDE (and a few MFM but that was my fault) and for my it has been the amount of use that the drives see.

      For internal drives, I admin'd a list server for a while (Mailman) and it killed a drive every three years like clockwork, the thing would just stop spinning. While I have had some web servers and file servers go for three - six years without a problem.

      On the external side, I lost a Lacie Big Disk triple interface within two months of buying it (it has two 160Gb disks that are striped to make it 320Gb) one of the two drives died, the other was okay - mfg replaced the unit and it's been solid (knock, knock) since.

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    20. Re:Not lego sized, just lego shaped by \\ · · Score: 1

      All that being said, I wouldn't want one of these without a Firewire port. It's kind of sad that a long-time seller of external drives for the Macintosh now sells a model of external case with only USB support.

      While I completely agree with you, Gen5/nano iPods are USB only too. The travesty spreads.

    21. Re:Not lego sized, just lego shaped by mink · · Score: 1

      The article I read about these is you can get ones with 1394 for an extra $20-$30.

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  2. This would be better... by mattyohe · · Score: 3, Insightful

    if the surface of the enclosure was made from actual lego rivets so that you could build on top of it.

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    1. Re:This would be better... by Liquorman · · Score: 2, Funny

      Or if it was made from Eggo rather than Lego... mmmm, delicious data...

    2. Re:This would be better... by Kelson · · Score: 3, Funny

      Or if it was made from Eggo

      No, thanks, I'd rather not toast my data...

    3. Re:This would be better... by systemic+chaos · · Score: 1

      In that case a lego hard drive is probably not for you, either.

  3. Lego Hard Drive Sex by staticsage · · Score: 4, Funny

    While we're linking boingboing... Why not stack the hard drives and have some crazy lego sex:
    http://www.boingboing.net/2002/11/13/lego_sex.html

  4. Destroyer, yes! by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 4, Funny
    But can you build a Star Destroyer out of them?

    Maybe I can't build a Star Destroyer out of them, but I could certainly build a big enough block of P2P storage to destroy the Enemies of the Empire -- the **AA's.

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    1. Re:Destroyer, yes! by tsetem · · Score: 1

      Maybe I can't build a Star Destroyer out of them, but I could certainly build a big enough block of P2P storage to destroy the Enemies of the Empire -- the **AA's.

      Dude, I think the **AA is the Empire....

    2. Re:Destroyer, yes! by ch-chuck · · Score: 1
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    3. Re:Destroyer, yes! by dextromulous · · Score: 1
      the Enemies of the Empire -- the **AA's.
      Are you sure you didn't mean the ??AAs ?
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    4. Re:Destroyer, yes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, I think he meant the /(..AA)+/, but he may have meant the /(.*AA)+/.

  5. Nice slashvertisement. by Ph33r+th3+g(O)at · · Score: 0, Troll

    Subtle, yet generates buzz. Mad propz, Taco!

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    1. Re:Nice slashvertisement. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And will we expect to see advertisements asking us to by it from ThinkGeek also?

  6. I developed a hard-drive-shaped Lego brick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    But it was a total failure. I totally underestimated the entrenchment of the IDE bus standard in the Lego world. My hard-drive-shaped Lego brick only supported SATA.

  7. In unrelated news... by __aaxwdb6741 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Google has just built a LEGO castle.

    1. Re:In unrelated news... by patio11 · · Score: 3, Funny

      And on the seventh day, He rested.

    2. Re:In unrelated news... by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 1

      One of Google's original servers was housed in a chassis made of Lego. You can find it somewhere in their company history section.

    3. Re:In unrelated news... by SillySnake · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It reminds me of some early google hardware.. Some of their equipment was housed in lego cases at Stanford.

      Here's the link to the slashdot story: http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/04/ 03/1354222&tid=137
      which links to the internet archive.. Though the pictures don't seem to work any more.

    4. Re:In unrelated news... by swiftstream · · Score: 1

      Ironic, actually. :-)

      Google's first device was enclosed in LEGO Duplos--somewhat larger than what most people think of as LEGO blocks, but still LEGOs, sort of. It is (or was, when I was there a few years ago) on display in the Comp Sci building at Stanford.

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    5. Re:In unrelated news... by PalmKiller · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think you are taking about the orginal storage tower?

      http://www-db.stanford.edu/pub/voy/museum/pictures /display/0-4-Google.htm

    6. Re:In unrelated news... by patio11 · · Score: 1

      This is what I get for posting at 2 AM -- I was *positive* that comment had read "God has just built a Lego Castle." Oops, sorry guys. You can take back your Funny mods :)

  8. LEGO Hard Drive building by Scotteh · · Score: 0

    LEGO should come out with instructions for building different models with hard drives. That'd be some crazy space!

  9. Why build a Star Destroyer when there's Slashdot by gasmonso · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why build one when you have Slashdot at your disposal. Just aim it at any site, and KABLAM, they're gone. Nice job taking out lacie. Slashdot strikes once again and shows no mercy (queue evil empire music).

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  10. High Memory Mindstorms by intmainvoid · · Score: 1
    Perfect for data collecting lego mindstorm robots then.

    More practically, i hope they properly lock together like lego blocks, so you can get a nice solid stack of them. Even better would be built in docking so you can just stack another disk on top when you need more storage space.

  11. 10 PB Star Destroyer at 1/100 scale? by nathan+s · · Score: 2, Funny

    That would be pretty funny. Or a full house built with these things...suddenly you measure your rooms in tera- or petabytes instead of square feet. Think of all the pr0n in the walls...

    1. Re:10 PB Star Destroyer at 1/100 scale? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      If those walls could display.... or even talk.

  12. Bah! by GillBates0 · · Score: 5, Funny
    You young 'uns and your fancy-schmancy "lego shaped hard drives". Back in my day, we had none of these uppity "LaCie hard drives" in rainbow colors to lighten up our day.

    We used to lug our trusty, stacks of punch cards on our backs each time we wanted to transfer data. Nothing builds character (and balls) like having to restack a pile of 1K+ punch cards that have fallen over on a Friday evening.

    No sirree, we didn't play these childish games in the computer room in my day, and that's how we liked it.

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    1. Re:Bah! by AntiDragon · · Score: 2, Funny

      Punch cards? Punch cards?!? Young 'un, you don't know how lucky you were! In my day we had to memorise the blinking lights and then toggle the sequence back in after driving for 8 hours to reach the other computer! If we wanted fancy colours we had to wear coloured lenses while looking at the lights.

      Of course, the epilepsy didn't help much...

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    2. Re:Bah! by kfg · · Score: 1

      "No sirree, we didn't play these childish games in the computer room in my day, and that's how we liked it."

      May I show you my collection of LEGO shaped, stackable UNIVACs?

      KFG

    3. Re:Bah! by ch-chuck · · Score: 3, Funny

      That's odd, because punch cards predate the use of toggle in software and binary address/data lights.

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    4. Re:Bah! by iamhassi · · Score: 1
      "...in rainbow colors to lighten up our day... our trusty, stacks of punch cards"

      Yeah right! I got your rainbow punch cards right here.

      incase of /., there's blue from Bell Labs, pink from Carnegie Tech, orange from Princeton, and several shades of off-white. Each of them have pretty logos even.

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    5. Re:Bah! by hummassa · · Score: 1

      In *my* time, we had to program with only zeroes and ones. And sometimes we ran out of zeroes, and we had to make do with the ones.
      Apologies to Scott. :-)

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    6. Re:Bah! by DarkIye · · Score: 0
      You got zeroes? We had to use the letter 'o'.

      Further apologies to Scott.

    7. Re:Bah! by Bilestoad · · Score: 1

      Well my portable drive was a 500MB Fujitsu Eagle. And if you think that's getting it easy, you've never lifted one. Or its stand-alone power supply.

      (but watching a defragger at work was always fun)

  13. gives new meaning to the term... by tomcres · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...my server's a total brick

  14. It's Lego, not Legos! by muftak · · Score: 3, Funny

    I used to like Legos, but now I only like sheeps.

    1. Re:It's Lego, not Legos! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      ... but now I only like sheeps.

      ... or these other woolly animals...

      Or you could give your Legos an extra t...

    2. Re:It's Lego, not Legos! by corngrower · · Score: 1

      How do you feel about meese?

    3. Re:It's Lego, not Legos! by Xserv · · Score: 1

      Hmm. I think he should worry more about liking the sheep... Avoid the cliffs -- unless you like that sorta thing. :X

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  15. more duplo than lego by BushCheney08 · · Score: 4, Informative

    It should be noted that these drives are more Duplo than Lego.

    (Yes, I am aware that Duplo is in fact a line of Legos).

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    1. Re:more duplo than lego by ddusza · · Score: 3, Funny
      Do you think they communicate with the host in Half-Duplo or Full-Duplo?

      Lost the sig in the bankruptcy.

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  16. Optical interconnects and stackables by G4from128k · · Score: 4, Interesting
    If high speed optical interconnects become common, they could make brick-based PCs with stackable components. Unlike current stackable HDs, the HD brick would need no cables or external power brick as top and bottom surface of each brick would carry power and data.

    Different Lego-like knoblets on top and bottom of each brick would correspond to different interconnect functions (one or more knoblets each for +5 VDC, +3.3 VDC, Optical-PCI, Optical-ATA, etc.). Aligned vent holes throughout the stack would allow the base PSU brick to pull cooling air from the other bricks. Adding a new video card or HD would be as simple as snapping the card to the top of the PC.

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    1. Re:Optical interconnects and stackables by AntiDragon · · Score: 1

      Plus it then works with lego technic!

      PC on wheels! PC on Wheeeeeeellllls! Whheeeeeeee!

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    2. Re:Optical interconnects and stackables by elgatozorbas · · Score: 1

      What does optical interconnect have to do with this? You could already build such a setup now, using e.g. scsi devices. The reason why we don't is because it does not exactly improve reliability. If you have a bad contact at the bottom of the pile everything is lost.

    3. Re:Optical interconnects and stackables by Kelson · · Score: 1

      I rememer when the electrically conducting plates in the light-and-sound LEGOs was a big deal. But this would be seriously cool!

    4. Re:Optical interconnects and stackables by Leif_Bloomquist · · Score: 1

      You mean like PC104?

    5. Re:Optical interconnects and stackables by TexNex · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If I rememer correctly IBM was working on something to this effect a while back. It was more of a SAN platform than anything but, the concept was to have a snap together modular system so that to add another HD to the SAN all you had to do was plop in the brick and the array would take care of the rest. Since they were enclosed it was decided to go with a water cooling method so I don't know how they worked that one out. The info came from a Technology Review or Wired article.

  17. Driving? DRIVING?! by Kickasso · · Score: 1

    In the snow, uphill, both ways. You know the drill.

    1. Re:Driving? DRIVING?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      carrying a sod of turf of course, to keep you warm on those cold winter nights.....

    2. Re:Driving? DRIVING?! by The+Lerneaen+Hydra · · Score: 1

      There are much more effective and enjoyable ways to keep warm on cold winter nights. However I would not expect /. to have knowledge of such methods.

    3. Re:Driving? DRIVING?! by databyss · · Score: 1

      Overclocking?

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    4. Re:Driving? DRIVING?! by DarkIye · · Score: 0
      Right. I had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night half an hour before I went to bed, drink a cup of sulphuric acid, work twenty-nine hours a day down AT&T, and pay t'CEO for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad and our mother would kill us and dance about on our graves singing Hallelujah.

      And you try and tell the young people of today that ..... they won't believe you.

  18. The Evolution of Leggo by Ted+Holmes · · Score: 3, Funny
    I hope Leggo's vision is to eventually embedded each brick with intelligence. They'll have an awesome product which would allow users an object-oriented way to assemble cool stuff at home. An example would be Leggo-style self replicating cubes.

    It would compliment the emerging desktop fabricators quite nicely.

    Imagine the new "Do It Yourself opportunities.

    1. Re:The Evolution of Leggo by DorkusMasterus · · Score: 1

      Leggos? Stacking Pantyhos Eggs? I just don't think that will sell.

    2. Re:The Evolution of Leggo by Chr0nik · · Score: 1

      From your article:

      programmed to stop reproducing after 2 generations

      That's the gitcher right there, they'd better get that part right, and make sure to decrement the generational count in successive generations, or we could have a pretty serious situation on our hands.

      I'm sure everyone here has heard about the plausible, but not probable grey goo scenario?

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    3. Re:The Evolution of Leggo by Russ+Nelson · · Score: 1

      Stackable brick-shaped breakfast waffles. The mind boggles.
      -russ

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    4. Re:The Evolution of Leggo by Billosaur · · Score: 1

      No, those would be L'eggs-oes and they would be "hard-boiled" drives.

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    5. Re:The Evolution of Leggo by mink · · Score: 1

      Forget "Grey Goo", I'm worried about my fillings.

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      (b) the military use, if any, of such a system

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  19. Does it come in the Death Star model? by davidwr · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I must have my Lego Death Star Hard Drive!

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  20. I can't RTFA but by Silver+Sloth · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I can't RTFA because it's slashdotted but I've been a fan of LACIE hard drives for a while. My currebt 80Gb drive is supposed to be Porshe designed. That's as maybe, I just know that I get a very good bytes/bucks ratio and pretty fair performance.

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  21. COMING SOON!!! by netkid91 · · Score: 0

    THE LEGO PC, our lego-brick structure makes adding that new hard-drive and video card a *snap*. No longer will you have to deal with cables, our patented block power and data-transfer system codenamed LPCI(Lego PCI) can support even the most bandwith and power hungry components.

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  22. USB 2 for substantial jobs? by Tumbleweed · · Score: 3, Informative

    With Hi-Speed USB 2.0 interface, it offers the fast data transfer rates required for substantial jobs

    Someone's an idiot. If you have a 'substantial' job for an external HD, you'd best be using at _least_ IEEE1394a (or better yet, b). External SATA would be quite lovely.

    1. Re:USB 2 for substantial jobs? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Is it is substantial, then you want to avoind the dirty writes of SATA and use SCSI

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    2. Re:USB 2 for substantial jobs? by Tumbleweed · · Score: 1

      If you're doing enterprise-level stuff, yeah, but if that's the case, you're probably not looking at equipment based on how much it resembled a giant Lego brick. :)

  23. FA Porsche (not Porsche) vs Lego... by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 4, Informative

    I too have a beautiful LaCie 80GB Mobile Hard Drive, with USB/Firewire support, but it's worth noting that the drive (and other drives in LaCie's product range) are actually designed by FA Porsche, which is not directly related to Porsche the car manufacturer.

    If I recall correctly, the Porsche responsible for setting up FA Porsche is a blood relation to the Porsche that set up the car company but that's the extent of the connection. I'm sure someone will correctly if I'm wrong.

    Anyhow, the FA Porsche-designed drives stack nicely and neatly too, plus they have the added advantage of not making you look ridiculous if you have to take one to a client's site.

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    1. Re:FA Porsche (not Porsche) vs Lego... by Silver+Sloth · · Score: 1

      Thanks for this. I live and learn. I'd mod you 'informative' if I had the points.

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    2. Re:FA Porsche (not Porsche) vs Lego... by br0ck · · Score: 1

      I personally find the LaCie fairly plain compared to the Monster Drive.

    3. Re:FA Porsche (not Porsche) vs Lego... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Er, you can't, you've already posted in this thread...

  24. Re: programmed to stop reproducing... by Ted+Holmes · · Score: 1
    Yeah, or until the supply runs out.

    Lego (I can't believe I've been mispelling that for so long) would have a field day of opportunity. I can imagine the orders for new bricks suddenly skyrocketing as home hackers try to build their personal army. All sorts of weird possible outcomes.

  25. Nice ad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Am I the only one to find that this submission reads exactly like an avert?

    With Hi-Speed USB 2.0 interface, it offers the fast data transfer rates required for substantial jobs like downloading digital photos, saving MP3s or transferring home videos from a camcorder.
    I mean, come on!
  26. Another slashdotting by steveo777 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I actually feel sorry for Lacie. In this case, somebody might have been watching the network activity and thinking, "Hey, things are looking up!"
    Just then the server starts shaking.
    The coffee pot mysterously drains into nowhere.
    Smoke rises from the PSU's, the redundent power supplies buzz and spurt, with every attempt at survival.
    The netadmin's smile turns to a look of horror, "No, this can't be. NOOOOOOOO!!! DAMN YOU SLASHDOT!"

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  27. Re:Slashdotted. by s4ck · · Score: 2, Insightful

    is it just me or isn't it normal to expect a hardware manufacturer like lacie to be a bit more resilient then that?

  28. Ok, who else was misled by the title? by hal2814 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I thought there was a fully functional hard drive made of LEGO! Instead it's just a hard drive that looks like a LEGO piece. What a bummer.

  29. Spoilsport! by AntiDragon · · Score: 1

    No no no...You're not supposed to pick at the huge inconsistency in my historically inaccurate and nonsensical post. You were supposed to post something like...ur...

    "Snow? Snow? Back in the metazoic era we had to wade through 20 miles of tar and swampland just to reallign the other stone circles! Now that's proper data transport!"

    See? It's total bollocks but that's OK! You low IDs are always lording it over us latecomers like were ignorant kids or the like. I'm telling my [Insert parental figure here] on you!

    Bah...you've ruined it now...I'm feeling inclined to be serious and actually do some work. Spoilsport... ;)

    (And after that complete bout of lunacy, I fully expect my next post to be made from within a rubber room...)

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  30. Yet Another Slashdot-Driven DoS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The page cannot be displayed

    Thank you for slashdotting another web page that I can't load...grrrr. You'd think if they can have such big hard drives they could at least have a decent load-balancing system in place.

  31. Re:Slashdotted. by Fitzroy_Doll · · Score: 1

    Probably someone needed that last red brick to complete their Galaxy Commander.

  32. Just imagine... by SheeEttin · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Just imagine a Beowulf cluster with these things!

    1. Re:Just imagine... by berbo · · Score: 2, Funny
      Just imagine a Beowulf cluster with these things!

      ...built in the shape of Beowulf!

  33. Coral Cache by DaFallus · · Score: 1

    The page was timing out when I tried to load it. Here's a coral link:

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  34. Why stop at the hard drive by Chris6502 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This guy built his whole machine from lego: http://home.hawaii.rr.com/chowfamily/lego/

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    1. Re:Why stop at the hard drive by guaigean · · Score: 1

      No, he built his own CASE with legos.

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  35. Doesn't look too impressive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, the page is slashdotted so I can't see the vendor images, but judging by the image on the Amazon product info page, it doesn't look that cool.

    1. Re:Doesn't look too impressive by TheSkepticalOptimist · · Score: 1

      Looking at an entirely wrong product. But yes, the Porche designed products by LaCie are underwelming to look at, and when you pick them up, they are cheaply made too. What do you expect from a guy that designs toasters and keychains.

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  36. Somewhat OT: LEGO circuitry by Froze · · Score: 1

    It seems that lego blocks with builtin components - resistors, capacitors,...,555 timers, quad nand, ... etc. and conductive connectors on each of the studs/receptors of the brick would be a really convenient way to prototype circuitry. The only drawback would be burning out a component but if the lego brick had replaceable components you could even work around that.

    LEGO hardrives could be memory for your circuit/robot/whatever and ... and ...

    Does anyone else think that would be reall spiffy?

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    1. Re:Somewhat OT: LEGO circuitry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Less useful than a breadboard. Probably much more difficult to manage for anything other than a plain serial circuit (so, not very useful in the real world.) Not as effective of a teaching tool, since you don't actually see the parts you are using. Length of wires would add artificial latency to anything that requires a clock signal.

  37. Re:Why build a Star Destroyer when there's Slashdo by squidfood · · Score: 1
    Slashdot strikes once again and shows no mercy (queue evil empire music).

    Do not be too proud of the technological terror you've constructed. The power to destroy websites is nothing compared to the power of the cache.

  38. Re:Slashdotted. by Carewolf · · Score: 1

    Why? Their hardware isn't..

    Eat you own dogfood. Like Microsoft in the good old days.

  39. overlord! by Gridpoet · · Score: 0

    Awesome!

    i'll finally be able to build my giant Lego world dominating robot!

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  40. Brillant! by Bushido+Hacks · · Score: 0

    Now if only they can make them thinner so that you can buy a little bit at a time. Even with this ingenious design, a hard drive is just a stack of smaller hard drives.

    Secondly, why not do the same design for RAM. This way consumers can easily upgrade their computers RAM capacity.

    Futhermore, why not do this with ALL computer --correction electronic-- components? Remember that sense of accomplishment when you completed a Lego project? Build your own computer! Build your own peripherals like a scanner or printer! Build your own power source to run it! Expandable LCD screens that are touch screen. Robots! Oh how I wanted to do this with my collection of Technic Legos but never got the chance.

    You are never too old to dream of something awesome.

    (Lego > Mega Blocks)

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  41. Way to quote the press release, Taco. by apflwr · · Score: 1

    With Hi-Speed USB 2.0 interface, it offers the fast data transfer rates required for substantial jobs like downloading digital photos, saving MP3s or transferring home videos from a camcorder.

    Finally, a place to put my mp3s!

    Do you really need to explain to us what USB 2.0 is and what we can do with it?

    (By the way, good luck working with video with USB2.0. But that's another story.)

  42. Re:USB 2 for substantial jobs? Firewire your you by Cochonou · · Score: 1

    If you had been able to see the site before it got submerged by the slashdot wave, you would have seen that these Lego blocks also support the IEEE1394a standard.

  43. Re:USB 2 for substantial jobs? Firewire your you by Tumbleweed · · Score: 1

    Right on. Are they available in black? An aluminum Lego housing would be most appreciated, too. :)

    Black Lego's rawk!

    I think I'd rather just have an external housing made out of aluminum Legos.

  44. C'mon now, this is /. after all by unicorn · · Score: 1

    I'm sure you'll get corrected plenty. Mostly be people that don't know whether or not you were wrong or not.

    I suppose that includes me, since I'm correcting one point at least, while not even caring which porsche is which. :)

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  45. Nope, they don't have FireWire by Tumbleweed · · Score: 1

    If you had been able to see the site before it got submerged by the slashdot wave, you would have seen that these Lego blocks also support the IEEE1394a standard.

    Okay, I just checked the manufacturer's site (LaCie), and they are, indeed, USB 2.0 only - no FireWire in sight, sorry.

    Here's a link to the datasheet (PDF):

    http://www.lacie.com/download/datasheets/brick3-5_ en.pdf

  46. Not a significant difference... by unicorn · · Score: 1

    Between High speed USB and Firewire. And since the USB port is FAR more common on PC's still, it's probably a better solution to advertise, etc.

    The througputs on either one, is going to be more than sufficient.

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    1. Re:Not a significant difference... by Tumbleweed · · Score: 1

      The official speed of USB 2.0 "High Speed" is 480Mbps, and FireWire IEEE1394.a is 400Mbps. If all you go on is the specifications, sure, you'll not notice much of a difference. In the real world, the way the two operate, there is a _VAST_ difference in operational speeds between the two, especially for applications like harddrives (though much less so on things like optical drives, etc.). _VAST_, seriously. Check out some benchmarks sometime - it's pretty startling how crappy USB is compared to FireWire, and that's not even including "FW800" IEEE1394.b at 800Mbps.

      The thing I'd like to see some benchmarks compared to with these things is some Gigabit ethernet NAS. Including CPU utilization.

  47. Are you making this up? by samjam · · Score: 1

    You say that on earth beause of atmosphere that heavier things fall faster? What has atmosphere to do with heaviness? How does the atmosphere know what is inside the shoebox?

    You say drag does not depend on mass [which would make drag the _same_ for two shoe boxes] but acceleration does depend on mass (which it does).

    Paragraph 3 "reduction in acceleration by having more mass" because as you say but you say "constant acceleration independant of mass" it shows you meant to say that more massive objects have a larger accelleration force, but require more force to increase the momentum because they have more mass to accelerate, so the acceleration of two objects due to gravity are the same.

    You've just explained why the two shoe boxes should land together but you claim the heavier one will land first.

    I think you meant to say that the atmospheric drag depends on surface characteristics and shape, so a feather and a ball bearing drop at different speeds, but I don't see how two shoeboxes with the same profile should drop at different speeds on account of the internal mass!

    And I never saw a heavier person coasting past a light person in a convincing way to account for what you say, and if the person is heavier because they are bigger they have more drag (and squash the tyres more) and will go slower.

    Sam

    1. Re:Are you making this up? by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 1
      I think you meant to say that the atmospheric drag depends on surface characteristics and shape, so a feather and a ball bearing drop at different speeds, but I don't see how two shoeboxes with the same profile should drop at different speeds on account of the internal mass!

      The acceleration of an object of mass M subject to force F is F/M. (These should all be vectors, but lets just do forces along one axis, so we can just deal with scalars).

      Consider two objects of the same size and shape, but different masses, say M1 and M2, falling in an atmosphere. There are two forces acting on each: gravity and drag, which are acting in opposite direction.

      The drag on the two objects is the same, since that just depends on surface characteristic and shape, not mass. Let's call this force Fd.

      The gravity force on the first object is g*M1, and on the second it is g*M2.

      So, if there were no drag, they would fall at the same speed, because they would be subject to the same acceleration. The heavier object feels more force from gravity, but has more inertia, and these exactly cancel out.

      With drag, however, the force on the first object is g*M1-Fd, and on the second object it is g*M2-Fd. Divide by mass to get acceleration.

      The acceleration on the first object is g-Fd/M1. The acceleration on the second object is g-Fd/M2.

      Note that the net acceleration is larger for the more massive object. As the mass goes up, the acceleraton gets closer to g.

      Going back to the forces, consider g*M-Fd. Drag is not a function of mass, but it is a function of velocity. As velocity goes up, so does drag. Terminal velocity will be the point where g*M = Fd. Note that for a more massive object, this will be at a higher velocity.

      These effects do not take much height to see. You really can see them with a shoebox, dropped from 5 or 6 feet. Or, if you don't mind a bit of a mess, and want to make the difference really really obvious, you can use a water balloon and an air balloon, inflated to the same size.

    2. Re:Are you making this up? by samjam · · Score: 1

      This time you are making sense, but I still think you got it wrong.

      If M1 and M2 are both shoeboxes they have equal function Fd(|velocity|) and so at any later time as they are both subject to the same accelleration they will have the same speed and drag values.

      You stated that the heavier shoebox would fall faster.

      The water balloon and air balloon are a vivid example, however I still think you made a mistake.

      Let's take a helium balloon inflated just so that it hovers in the air. Why is it not falling? It is not because of drag.

      There is somethign else at work here which is relative density, which is not signficant for the water ballon as it is very much more dense, but for the air balloon relative density has a large effect.

      Sam

    3. Re:Are you making this up? by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 1
      If M1 and M2 are both shoeboxes they have equal function Fd(|velocity|) and so at any later time as they are both subject to the same accelleration they will have the same speed and drag values

      They have equal Fd, but that's equal force, not equal acceleration. The acceleration is force divided by mass, so that equal Fd results in unequal acceleration. Fd/M1 for the first box and Fd/M2 for the second box.

    4. Re:Are you making this up? by samjam · · Score: 1

      Well put.
      I suspect you are right, I will have to think more on this, thankyou for explaining so well.

      I'm not convinced about the balloons being due to this feature you have been explaining but the boxes appear to make sense.

      Thanks

      Sam

    5. Re:Are you making this up? by grahamlee · · Score: 1

      Of course it's not. The air-filled balloon has an appreciable bouyancy in comparison with its weight; above poster ignored this to try and support another argument. The bouyancy of an object in air is the weight of air displaced, so for an air-filled balloon in air it's (volume of balloon)*(density of air)*g. This means that an air-filled balloon will fall slower than an unfilled balloon. This contradicts parent's statement: weigh an unfilled balloon and an air-filled balloon on a set of balances (which can be in a standard temperature and pressure environment if you like; it's easy that way ;-)) and you'll see that the air-filled balloon weighs more.

    6. Re:Are you making this up? by Eivind · · Score: 1
      I think you meant to say that the atmospheric drag depends on surface characteristics and shape, so a feather and a ball bearing drop at different speeds, but I don't see how two shoeboxes with the same profile should drop at different speeds on account of the internal mass!

      But it is so. Fairly obviously. For the same reason a baloon filled with water falls quicker than a equal-sized baloon filled with air.

      What matters is force/mass. So double both force and mass, and you get the same acceleration.

      Doubling the internal mass of a shoebox *does* double the force pulling it towards earth, but here's the thing: it doesn't double the aerodynamic braking from the air. So, the 0.1 kg box migth have (at say 5m/s) 1N accelerating force from gravity, but 0.5N braking force from the air. result: 0.5N/0.1kg = 5m/s**2 acceleration.

      The 1kg box has (at the same speed) 10N accelerating force from gravity and the same 0.5N braking force from the air. result: 9.5N/1.0kg = 9.5m/s**2 acceleration.

  48. LaCie = Crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I work in the Post Production industry and they seem to really like external LaCie harddrives. The only problem is they are complete crap. The solder connections for the 1394 connectors are HORRIBLE at best. I'm constantly having to resolder these things on.

    Basically there techsupport says buy a new case! So why did I buy there fancy overpriced case in the first place?

    When I called lacie about it there techsupport said:

    Input/Output errors indicate that there is a problem with the cable or the port on the computer or the port on the drive. Try a different cable. Try a different port. Try a different computer.

    If the problem lies with the port on the drive we are unable to repair it, unfortunately, the drive is past its one year warranty. We do not perform out-of-warranty repairs as we often no longer have parts and it is usually more cost effective to purchase a new unit. Depending on what is wrong with the drive, parts may be salvageable. We are unable to assist with any of this, but if the mechanism itself is dead, a new one can be placed inside the case. If the mechanism is still good, it may be installed elsewhere-either in a computer or inside a new empty case. If you are not familiar with this, you will want to contact a local computer repair shop.

    We do not offer replacement parts for any of our products, other than power supplies, due to agreements with our suppliers.

    Dont fall for this product or co. - epinions removed my review

  49. Achtung! Spelling NAZI! by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

    Don't you mean "mooses?"

    ; )

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  50. Legoshaped Lacie drives by mikaellennryd · · Score: 1

    I can recommend buying the Lacie harddrives. Been using them at work and at home for about 1-2 years now. Never failed on me once.

    The lego look-a-like drive is a bit ugly compared to the other "normal" lacie drives though. I'd never be allowed to bring one of these into my home! Oh well, no superstardestroyer for me!

  51. LaCie Dropped the Ball? by Lotharus · · Score: 1

    I'm looking at their advertising copy and datasheets, and it looks like stacking the drives does not connect them electrically. So far I haven't read anything that clearly indicates it. I hope I'm incorrect, otherwise...

    Are you kidding me? The real LEGO made electrically-connecting bricks a long time ago. I think LaCie severely dropped the ball by not making the drives automatically link with each other when stacked. They have six "knobs" which seems perfect to me - +12V, +5V, USB+, USB-, GND, and one left over. Two GNDs if you want to separate power supply and USB grounds for noise considerations. Add an inverted-gender prong to "activate" the connections so that they're not active unless actually stacked (wouldn't want errant paperclips shorting out the connectors of unstacked drives) and you'd be golden.

    Of course you'd have to make each drive's power supply a little beefier.. But it seems like it wouldn't be much more than trivial to add a bit of firmware code such that each stacked drive queries down the USB chain and if there are more than X drives stacked, drives X + 1 through X + n never spin up and possibly blink a warning LED.

    The above design insight is distributed under the GPL, where applicable.