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Einstein's Biggest Blunder That Wasn't

jose parinas writes "The genius of Albert Einstein, who added a "cosmological constant" to his equation for the expansion of the universe but later retracted it, may be vindicated by new research. The enigmatic "dark energy" that drives the acceleration of the Universe behaves just like Einstein's famed cosmological constant, according to the Supernova Legacy Survey (SNLS). Their observations reveal that the dark energy behaves like Einstein's cosmological constant to a precision of 10%."

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  1. What is the cosmological constant ? by $exyNerdie · · Score: 5, Informative

    The cosmological constant is an extra term in Einstein's equations of general relativity which physically represents the possibility that there is a density and pressure associated with "empty" space. The inclusion of this vacuum energy term can greatly effect cosmological theories.
    http://super.colorado.edu/~michaele/Lambda/lambda. html

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmological_constant

  2. Dark matter ... by karvind · · Score: 2, Informative
    Well GR still explains the dark matter.

    Can anyone explain the idea behind dark matter and dark energy ? I mean if it is just a mathematical problem or has some experimental justification as well.

    1. Re:Dark matter ... by Lisandro · · Score: 3, Informative

      I'm no physicist, by a long shot :) but the idea of dark matter comes from the fact that some phenomenons on the the visible universe (rotation of galaxies, particularly, IIRC) can't be explained with our current knowledge of physics - there's simply not enough matter for them to behave like they do. Hence, we now have this notion of dark matter; mass that affects other mass (gravity and such)... but can't be detected by conventional means. It's a stopgap to make measurements fit our current theories, as i see it.

          Dark energy is more of the same, and tries to account for the visible expansion of the universe.

    2. Re:Dark matter ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well GR still explains the dark matter.

      No, it doesn't. Even if their result was right, which it doesn't seem to be, it never explained all the observations which imply dark matter; it only accounted for galactic rotation curves.

      Can anyone explain the idea behind dark matter and dark energy ? I mean if it is just a mathematical problem or has some experimental justification as well.

      Of course it has experimental justification. That's why it's such a big deal.

      Dark matter is, well, non-luminous matter. The observations which imply its existence are summarized in my above link. Various lines of argument imply that most of the dark matter is probably in the form of some kind of unknown particle which is massive but weakly interacting, quite possibly an axion or a supersymmetric partner.

      Dark energy is a field that has negative pressure. The observations which imply its existence include supernova luminosity-redshift curves, and the cosmic microwave background spectrum. It is much more mysterious than dark matter. It could be Einstein's cosmological constant, it could be the zero point energy of the quantum vacuum, it could be some kind of new field (such as "quintessence").
    3. Re:Dark matter ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative
      ...[dark energy] tries to account for the visible expansion of the universe.
      [dark energy] tries to account for the visible acceleration of the expansion of the universe.
    4. Re:Dark matter ... by Jerry+Coffin · · Score: 4, Informative

      Can anyone explain the idea behind dark matter and dark energy ? I mean if it is just a mathematical problem or has some experimental justification as well.

      Fair Warning: what follows is a really simplified version of reality, and at least a couple of points go beyond simplification to the point that they're arguably flat out wrong. If somebody wants to correct part or all of this, please feel free, but if you do so please try to keep with the spirit of actually explaining things so they're understandable.

      The situation with dark matter is simpler than dark energy, so we'll start with that.

      We've observed a certain amount of matter in the universe. Those observations lead to a rough estimate of what the total amount of matter in the universe might be.

      Now, there was a certain amount of energy released in the big bang. For quite a while, it was assumed to be the primary reason that the universe was expanding. I.e. there as a big explosion, and matter went flying off in all directions (and we're basically just living on a bit of shrapnel from that explosion).

      Now, if there was enough matter in the universe, the gravity between it would eventually slow it down, stop it, and finally start it contracting back together. That was a rather attractive idea -- that the big bang wasn't a one-time thing, but that we just happened to be seeing evidence of the most recent occurrence.

      The problem was that our estimates of how much matter there was in the universe came out well below what was needed for there to be enough gravity to make the expansion stop and eventually reverse.

      One answer that was postulated to that was dark matter -- a lot more matter out there that we couldn't see, so it wasn't being figured into our estimates of how much matter there was in the universe. Therefore, a lot of people spent a lot of time and energy trying to find ways to observe a lot more matter than we had previously. To some extent they succeeded -- better telecsopes, observing techniques, etc., have allowed us to observe quite a bit more than we had previously.

      By this idea, however, almost regardless of the exact amount of matter in the universe, the gravity should act to slow down the expansion over time -- i.e. the energy pushing things apart was all expended during the big bang, and now gravity should be acting in the general direction of pulling things back together again or at least slowing down the rate at which they're moving apart.

      That doesn't fit reality though. In reality, it appears that the expansion of the universe is actually accelerating. The original theory was that the expansion was due to energy released during the big bang. If that was the case, the expansion of the universe should basically just be "coasting", and there's no way it could be accelerating.

      The obvious way for the expansion to accelerate is to figure that even though we generally think of the space beyond the edge of the universe as a complete vacuum, devoid of matter or energy, that there really is a little bit of something there afterall, and being a little bit of something (energy or mass) it has some gravitational pull on the matter that we think of as part of the universe, so it's more or less pulling the universe apart -- i.e. accelerating the outward movement.

      Given that the expansion of the universe is accelerating (which certainly seems to be accepted as fact right now anyway), it seems to me that the existence of the cosmological constant isn't really the question. The primary questions are 1) what is its exact value, and 2) where exactly does it come from.

      If you read the article from the University of Colorado cited elsehwere (for one example), you can find both some estimates of upper and lower limits on the value, and at least one possible explanation for its source. I've heard at least one person give what sounded (to me) like a different explanation of its source, but it wouldn't surprise me too much i

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    5. Re:Dark matter ... by Coryoth · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'll expand on the issue of dark matter a little. It's still rather simplified, but it is more to the point on the issue of dark matter particularly.

      The original problem that lead to postulating dark matter involves observations of galaxies. Galaxies rotate and physics makes predictions about the orbital velocity of stars in a galaxy based on their distance from the centre of the galaxy. The problem is that these predictions don't square very well with observations. In general observations show stars distant from the center of the galaxy orbiting much faster than expected. You can express this in terms of rotation curves making the problem relatively clear. The proposed solution to this is to assume that there must be extra unobserved (hence dark) mass providing extra gravitational energy, and thus extra orbital velocity, to the more outlying stars.

      There are other theories to explain the observations such as Modified Newtonian Dynamics, but they tend to run into their own problems, and currently aren't anywhere near as widely accepted as the dark matter solution.

      Jedidiah.

    6. Re:Dark matter ... by Tim+C · · Score: 4, Informative

      The proposed solution to this is to assume that there must be extra unobserved (hence dark) mass providing extra gravitational energy, and thus extra orbital velocity, to the more outlying stars.

      Just to expand on this a little, as people may not know the physics behind this...

      The stars in question are gravitationally atrracted to the centre of the galaxy, just like the Earth is gravitationally atrracted to the Sun. Just like the Earth, they must either circle the gravitational source, or "fall" towards it. In order to remain in their orbit (rather than moving inwards or outwards) their centripetal acceleration must be equal to the acceleration they feel from the gravitational pull of the galaxy. (Centripetal acceleration is the acceleration required to keep them moving in a circle)

      If the gravitational pull is too strong, they'll be pulled in towards the galactic centre; if it's too weak, they'll fly off into space.

      Measuring their orbital speed allows us to calculate their centripetal acceleration, and thus the acceleration they feel due to the gravitational pull of the galaxy. This in turn allows us to calculate the mass that is producing the gravitational field that they are in:

      v**2/r = GM/r**2

      Where v**2 is the speed of the star, squared; r is the radius of the orbit of the star; G is the gravitational constant; and M is the mass of the galaxy producing the gravitational force.

      This gives us an estimate of the mass of the galaxy of rv**2/G.

      The problem is that working through the numbers gives us a mass that's significantly higher than we can account for from what we see. So, that leaves us with three choices:

      1) our understanding of dynamics is flawed (and so v**2/r is wrong)
      2) our understanding of gravity is flawed (and so GM/r**2 is wrong)
      3) there's stuff out there that we can't (currently) detect by other means

      1) would be pretty fundamental (that's some very basic physics indeed), as would 2). That only really leaves 3) as an attractive proposition (imho).

  3. Re:Precision? by ClickOnThis · · Score: 4, Informative

    In astronomy (and other fields) you often have to live with large errors. That doesn't mean the science isn't valid. If the errors on your data are 10% and your theory is within the 10% error of your data, then fine, you have not invalidated the theory. On the other hand, if your error is 5% and the discrepancy with the theory is 10%, then you have something to think about.

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  4. Re:Still a blunder? by Chemicalscum · · Score: 3, Informative
    So, why is this news?

    That's what I thought. However a quick scan of the article suggests that the increase in the rate of expansion can be explained better by a Cosmological constant (which is a constant unlike Hubble's constant which is not) rather than the alternative Quintessence hypothesis where the repulsive force is not constant.

    So yes this story is new and possibly important.

  5. Re:what dark matter? by Tickle+Cricket · · Score: 5, Informative

    Scientists did not prove anything. Some merely published a theory. It is not in anyway proven. Science is not like engingeering where it either works or doesn't. The scientific process takes a while, and dark matter and dark energy are still a vital theory in explaining expansion of the universe. So please don't tell me Dark Energy doesn't matter, because if that's true, I'm wasting a lot of my time.

  6. I thought we didn't need... by Pedrito · · Score: 2, Informative

    dark matter anymore as per this past story.

    Granted, it's unproven at this point, but Occam's Razor and all, I vote for the theory that makes sense with matter and energy as-is and doesn't require some exotic matter/energy that exists only as speculation to fill an unknown.

    1. Re:I thought we didn't need... by Vellmont · · Score: 2, Informative


      I vote for the theory that makes sense with matter and energy as-is and doesn't require some exotic matter/energy that exists only as speculation to fill an unknown.


      And I think most scientists would agree with you. Of course you still have to come up with this theory you speak of that explains all observations without requiring exotic matter/energy that hasn't been directly observed.

      (psst... this story is about dark energy, not dark matter).

      The evidence for dark energy is that the expansion of the universe is speeding up, not slowing down. We'd expect that the expansion of the universe would be slowing down, because all the mass in the universe should be attracting everything to everything else. We don't see that, in fact we see the exact opposite. This means there must be some kind of "anti-gravity" force that operates at very large distances. The current accepted way this happens is called "dark energy".

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  7. Re:Still a blunder? by DarkFencer · · Score: 3, Informative

    He doesn't mean the Hubble Space Telescope, he means Ediwn Hubble, the astrophysicst who the HST was named after.

  8. Re:Still a blunder? by ClickOnThis · · Score: 2, Informative

    Albert Einstein 1879-1955
    Edwin Hubble 1889-1953

    Hubble Telescope 1990-2003^H^H^H^H2007^H^H^H^H2009^H^H^H^Hwhatever

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  9. Cosmological pressure by whig · · Score: 2, Informative

    Consider a spherical mass of uniform density. If an observer stands at the surface, the gravitational vectors sum to a unit vector from surface to center. If the observer stands at the center of the mass, the gravitational vectors sum to zero (all vectors cancel). If the observer stands at any location in between the first and second position, the gravitational vectors can be given as two sums, zero (canceled) for an equidistant radius from the observer's position to the surface and towards the center, and a distance vector from the observer's position and the residual (uncanceled) mass.

    The distance vector between the observer and the residual center of mass is constant at any point between the surface and the center of the mass. The residual mass decreases linearly as the observer descends towards the center. The gravitational force on the observer decreases linearly to zero over this domain. The radius of the sphere is the radius of maximum gravitation.

    Gravitational force may cause the radius of the sphere to contract. As the radius shrinks, it approaches the center of mass and therefore increases the gravitational force upon an observer standing at the radius as the inverse square of the change in radius until it relativistically approaches a point at which escape velocity equals the speed of light. To an external observer, the radius will seem to shrink more and more slowly until it seems to stop as it approaches this point. Likewise for the internal observer, but neither mass nor energy can now escape from inside the radius to the outside, so we cannot communicate with him unless we shift our perspective to his.

    Staying with our external perspective for the moment, however, we can measure the gravitational force at some distance from the radius, and observe how it acts upon other masses. Nearby matter may get swept into this gravity well, adding to the total mass of our system and increasing its externally determinable radius. But by appearing to slow down and stop at a radius greater than that of our original mass, it would not seem to reach the original radius at all.

    Now let's depart our external universe and try to figure out what's going on with our inside observer. First of all, he's not seeing any in-falling matter because his frame of reference is also much slower than that of the radius, in fact he'd have to wait infinitely long before anything like that would happen, so let's just say it doesn't. But that doesn't mean that he cannot observe any effects at all.

    What our man on the inside discovers is that there is intense energy, in the form of pressure, being applied to his little micro-universe. This pressure continues to build and build, charging our little spherical mass like a battery, until maximum energy density is reached. But the pressure continues, so the mass does what it has to do, it inflates.

    Our mass isn't just expanding in space; it is expanding "space." As pressure energy continues to pour in, the inflation continues until certain physical properties of matter and energy begin to assert themselves; and the inflation proceeds outwards and away from the original mass -- into the new universe.

    This is one possible explanation of how our universe may have begun. In searching for evidence of such a hypothesis, one might hope to find some sort of inflationary pressure which seems to operate against gravity. Since this "dark energy" seems probably, this may be a feasible cosmology.

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  10. I can't take it... (grammar nazi alert) by ChadN · · Score: 5, Informative

    "Affect"... "Can greatly affect"... 'effect' is a different word, with a different usage.

    An informative post, and I'll accept moderator punishment for grammar nazi-ism.

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  12. Re:Still a blunder? by TheNetAvenger · · Score: 2, Informative

    Everyone forgets to mention Hubble's 'associate', Humason.

    His work was what Hubble's Law is actually founded out, he and Hubble worked together, and he was the one that 'observed' the red shift.

    Sagan always took time to credit Humason, but very few other prominent people give him the recognition.

  13. Re:what dark matter? by smeek · · Score: 2, Informative

    Despite the theoretical blunder of a few (I find it doubtful that anyone would use Newtonian mechanics to calculate cosmological problems anymore), most people are using GR for their calculations, and this is a real effect. There is an acceleration that, if the data on redshift vs. distance is correct, can only be explained within GR by adding a repulsive term to the equations.

    Remember, these publications are peer reviewed. If the mistake were that simple, the reviewers should have caught it.

  14. Read carefully by mcc · · Score: 1, Informative

    You are talking about dark matter

    This article is talking about dark energy

    These are different things.

    Personally I would suspect that, similar to dark matter, dark energy will come in time to be derided as an unnecessary mathematical kludge introduced to paper over problems introduced by an oversight we made somewhere else. However, this hasn't happened yet.

  15. Slashdot headlines != reality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    last month scientists proved that they were wrongly using newtonian physics to measure the amount of matter in the universe, but when they changed their equations to einsteinian physics, there was no need of any dark matter to make up 'lost' matter in the universe.

    That turns out not to be the case. And I was far from the only poster to point that out. Please read the Slashdot comments for critical analysis, not just the blurbs.

    Besides which, dark matter has nothing to do with dark energy.
  16. Re:Hardly Einstein's biggest blunder... by joeyblades · · Score: 3, Informative

    Not exactly. Einstein was all over quantum physics and was one of the biggest contributors in the early days. You are right that he never accepted the probablistic aspects of quantum **MECHANICS**. In other words, he didn't like the math. There are a lot of people in the field who still agree with Einstein. i.e that probabilty is just a convenient way of predicting the outcome of quantum events, but does not reflect what is **REALLY** going on at the quantum level...

  17. Einstein was still wrong about the constant though by gilzreid · · Score: 5, Informative

    These stories always say it was Einstein's great blunder and it has been vindicated, but it really hasn't. The reason Einstein put it in was that he couldn't find any solutions to his equations that resulted in a static universe. (At the time, Hubble's revolutionary results on the recession of distant galaxies had not been completed, so it was thought the universe must be static) All of his model universes were expanding or contracting. So he added the constant to balance out the contraction in his favoured model (which was also closed, another historical assumption in cosmology that has been disposed of).

    OK, but the cosmological constant we see now is being used to explain the _acceleration_ of the universe, nothing like what Einstein put the constant in for. His blunder wasn't really the constant, it was the assumption that the universe was static, which turned out to be totally wrong.

    But you have to admire Einstein - out of pure thought and mathematics he produced a theory which is still held up as a foundation of modern physics, even though practically every cosmological observation was made years after he published it (and all the observations have supported the theory to great accuracy). Compare this to, say, quantum mechanics, where many theorists struggled for decades to explain observations that had already been made, and Einstein's one-man theory is truly impressive.

  18. Re:Density, exactly... by Trebonius · · Score: 2, Informative

    There is the theory of the Moebieus: a twist in the fabric of space, where time becomes a loop. Where time becomes a loop. Where time becomes a loop. Where time becomes a loop. Where time becomes a loop...
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  19. Re:... or Light matter? by geordieboy · · Score: 2, Informative

    They don't have mass (any zero mass particle travels at the speed of light) but they do have energy (E=mc^2 doesn't work for a photon...)

    The photon energy is taken into account, but it's currently a tiny fraction of the total energy (most of which is dark energy, the rest mostly dark matter - which does obey E=mc^2). If i recall corrrectly, currently the photons (namely the cosmic microwave background) contribute 0.004 of the total energy (starlight probably contributes less, but I could be wrong). In the past, however, photons dominated the energy (photons cooled over time due to redshifting, so they were very hot and energetic in the past).

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