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Wireless Sensor Networks for Killing Mosquitoes

aaditeshwar writes "It looks like sensor networks have some applications afterall, other than the usual stuff for defense and US military! AmBio has created a wireless mesh network of bugspraying "magnets" that report back data on the temperature, air conditions, and wind directions, and a central controller uses this data to turn ON or OFF the magnets in different areas. They plan to cover entire cities with such wireless meshes, and create an anti-mosquito shield around the city!"

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  1. Fighting malaria by pieterh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This would be great in tropical countries. Mosquito-borne malaria is one of those diseases that affects a huge number of people (a majority in many countries), which is non-fatal but debilitating. It makes you sick every few months, and you spend a week or so in a terrible fever. Sometimes it's fatal but mostly it just makes people very weak, unable to concentrate on useful work, and so on.

    Of course there are hundreds of other diseases that weigh down people living in tropical countries but malaria is one of the big ones. Keeping mosquitos away from places where people live would be a great thing. I just hope the technology will become cheap enough to work in rural Africa.

    1. Re:Fighting malaria by RDW · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's fatal in up to 2.7 million cases a year (mostly African children):

      http://www.cdc.gov/malaria/facts.htm

    2. Re:Fighting malaria by kellar · · Score: 5, Interesting

      at the moment, the best defence against malaria in [south] africa seems to be revisiting DDT.

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    3. Re:Fighting malaria by moro_666 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think there must be better ways to fight malaria.

      from tfa

      "The way to control mosquitoes is to go to these ponds and float a harmless oil," that will suffocate the larvae when they come up for air, he said. "It seems like an awful lot of trouble and expense to do otherwise."

      wtg dudes, seems like they have too much of fresh and not spoiled water over there. from the chemical point of view, there are as many harmless oils as there are nature friendly suv's. and you are forgetting the fact that in the very same lakes are breeding places for other breeds that save our butt from lots of trouble through eating other insects and having a competitive race for the food with really nasty insects ?

      i think they will figure out this much later.

      Can't people really create some kind of protection against malaria ? Here we are sitting behind multimillion megahertzed machines chatting over network that has been dragged with cables and satellites all over the world, and we can't find 1 civilized way to fight a diseasy without killing entire other species by it ? Give the medical institutions some proper budget and let them invent a malaria that is harmless to people but that does push out the malaria that we have right now, this should work, no ?

      and does malaria have some kind of balancing effect on the rest of the mammals ? like regulating the count of animals so the planet wouldn't be overpopulated there by them and eaten "clean" ? no reason to stab ourselves in the back because it looked like a good idea in the first place.

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  2. Can the 3rd World afford it? by MosesJones · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is a great application, and one which probably has the largest benefits for the 3rd World and developing world. As with drugs however the issue is going to be the cost to those countries of deploying it (and having the reliable power network to support it).

    How long before its cheap enough to not just be about making people in Florida feel more comfortable living in a swamp?

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    1. Re:Can the 3rd World afford it? by mikefe · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How long before its cheap enough to not just be about making people in Florida feel more comfortable living in a swamp?

      After the patent expires of course.

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  3. Whoops by squoozer · · Score: 3, Funny

    I thought they meant real magnets. I was like "WTF do we have nano-robitic mosquitos now?". Glad we can all sleep safe in the knowledge that we will only be bitten by regular mosquitos.

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    1. Re:Whoops by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Mosquito sized and even dust particle sized robots have been under development for a number of years now. If natural mosquitoes can bite you and unintentionally spread diseases, think about what robotic mosquitoes can do in the hands of the wrong person.

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    2. Re:Whoops by Frumious+Wombat · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think they ought to go back to an idea I had years ago. In an early 1970s Scientific American "amateur scientist" column, there was an article on building your own 5Kw pulsed dye laser. I always wondered about taking the sonar range-finder from the old polaroid SX-70 camera, adding some electronics to allow it to discriminate between the target and other objects, and hooking that up to the pulse-laser. Of course, my target was going to be the squirrels eating my garden, but the principle is the same.

      Cue some appropriate music, switch on the anti-mosquito system, and sit back to watch the fireworks. Do make sure the targeting system can tell the difference between you and a mosquito before putting it into production, but that's an implementation detail.

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  4. Now I just need a really long extension cord... by jimmyhat3939 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    This sounds like it would work great for golf courses and country clubs (one of the sites mentioned in the article).

    However... they tout this as being great for third-world countries where malaria is prevalent. I'm sure this is the angle they'll use to get major media, since people ultimately aren't that drawn to devices that make live even easier for the country-club set.

    According to the article, you need both a 20-pound tank of propane and access to a nearby power outlet to make the machine work, not to mention wifi for the fancier parts of it. Seems like this could be a bit of a stretch in places like Central America and Africa where they're lucky to have running water and decent sanitation facilities. Maybe a better version of device could use the propane to power the unit, so that you don't need that power cord?

    Or else, I suppose they could just use the equivalent of the "Mexican National Extension Cord" to run the things.
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  5. Great !! by amodm · · Score: 2, Insightful

    As if interference from nearby wireless networks was not enough !! They're using 802.11b network. Do they realize that a 802.11g network gets very badly affected if there's a 11b network nearby ?

    Couldn't it have been done through wires, or bluetooth, or custom radio, or whatever....

  6. Re:And then by quigonn · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Dear Mr. Crackpot AC,

    Please have a look at some encyclopedia and get a clue. Mosquitos are typically nectar feeders, with only the females sucking out your blood. And they infamous for transmitting illnesses such as Malaria in some countries.

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  7. Re:And then by Indras · · Score: 5, Informative

    When the bacteria eaten by the mosquitoes begin hurting us, everybody will realize that -after all- they were not just "bad".

    Typical biological intervention which reverts against us.


    Mosquitoes do not eat bacteria. They are nectar drinkers, with the female ones requiring an additional diet of animal blood.

    I'm racking my brain, but I cannot think of a negative reason to remove mosquitoes from cities. Other than reducing spread of West Nile virus and malaria, the only real effect would be a lack of bug bites and a reduced diet for spiders and birds that feed on them.

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  8. And the effects on other species? by Chris+Bradshaw · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Great, we'll rid the city of mosquitos... What about natural predation and balance in areas where these systems are deployed? There are species that depend on the these "pests" for survival?

    http://www.mosquito-netting.com/predators.html

    I know that there are concerns with insect born illness, but that these problems can and in my opinion be solved without wiping out an entire species from an ecosystem, no matter how annoying they are.

    Is it just me, or does this seem a little extreme...?

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    1. Re:And the effects on other species? by cowscows · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think that'd be ok. The amount of urban/developed land, compared to the total land mass of the planet, is pretty damn small. Even if we kicked those bugs out of all the cities, there'd still be plenty of other space for the mosquitos and dependent species to survive.

      If this crap works, I vote that New Orleans install some as soon as possible. The mosquitos have always been sort of bad here, and they got a whole lot worse after the hurricanes. All around the city and its suburbs, trucks drive through the streets spraying chemicals into the air to help control the bugs. I can't imagine that that is particularly healthy for anyone, so an alternative would be nice.

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    2. Re:And the effects on other species? by meringuoid · · Score: 2, Informative
      There are species that depend on the these "pests" for survival?

      There are indeed. For instance, the mosquito is a crucial part of the lifecycle of the plasmodium. If mosquitos are eradicated, then the plasmodium goes with it.

      Now, as far as I'm concerned, plasmodium sits just above HIV on the list of Species That Have Just Got To Go, but YMMV.

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  9. Holy Iron Insects, Entomology Man! by dangitman · · Score: 2, Funny
    AmBio has created a wireless mesh network of bugspraying "magnets" that report back data on the temperature,

    Maybe I'm missing something, but I didn't know that mosquitos were magnetic. I guess I'll have to welcome my new magnetic insectoid overlords. I'm getting really sick of welcoming new overlord, but whatever.

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  10. Bats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How does this system compare with just attracting bats to the area? Just attach little wooden bat homes near your golf course or whatever. Bats eat a lot of bugs.

    1. Re:Bats by MichaelSmith · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Bats eat a lot of bugs.

      So do fish. When I installed a pond in my front garden the mozzie population exploded overnight. The Mosquito lavae were breeding in the pond.

      So I put fish in the pond. The fish got bigger and the mozzies almost disapeared.

    2. Re:Bats by kellar · · Score: 4, Funny
      yeah but then what do we do with the .... aw screw it, i'll just use an obligatory simpsons quote:

      QUIMBY: For decimating our pigeon population, and making Springfield a less oppressive place to while away our worthless lives, I present you with this scented candle.

      Skinner talks to Lisa.

      SKINNER: Well, I was wrong. The lizards are a godsend.

      LISA: But isn't that a bit short-sighted? What happens when we're overrun by lizards?

      SKINNER: No problem. We simply unleash wave after wave of Chinese needle snakes. They'll wipe out the lizards.

      LISA: But aren't the snakes even worse?

      SKINNER: Yes, but we're prepared for that. We've lined up a fabulous type of gorilla that thrives on snake meat.

      LISA: But then we're stuck with gorillas!

      SKINNER: No, that's the beautiful part. When wintertime rolls around, the gorillas simply freeze to death.

      The family head back to the car.

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  11. Vapourware? by martinmcc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I watched a program about mosqitos recently, and they are actually pretty cool creatures. As mentioned before, it is only the female that drinks blood, and it is used for making babies (mosquito babies I assume, not human), not for everyday sustanance. When they drink your blood, they actually distill it in real time, excreting out what they do not need as they drink.

    But anyway, asides from the possible environmental impact it may or may not cause, does this not strick anyone as being highly unrealistic. How much would it cost to put up a city wide net of sensors and magnets, not to mention the power cost, replacing broken components etc. etc. Smells to me like a lot of vapourware.

    I think we should just all sit down with mosquitos and have a good long chat, I'm sure we could work out our differences and learn to live together in peace and harmony.

  12. Not just in tropical countries by dreamchaser · · Score: 3, Informative

    Diseases like West Nile Virus kill people every year in non Tropical climates as well.

  13. Not all bugs are mozzies by martinX · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not all bugs are mozzies. If it kills all bugs, what happens to the critters that live by eating bugs?

    I remember reading (somewhere on the innanet, so it must be true...) that the so-called mozzie zappers weren't too discriminatory. ~95% of the bugs caught in them weren't mosquitoes, but were bugs that had been attracted by the zapper's (deliberately attractant) light. This in turn was adversely affecting the local frogs. Less frogs meant more mosquitoes... and so on.

    OTOH, my fly catching bottle smells like poo but catches nothing but flies :-)

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  14. Birds by se2schul · · Score: 2, Informative

    ... and the number of birds who feed on the bugs will be cut dramatically throughout the cities.

  15. Re:And then(there was light) by codecracker007 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...and another crackpot comment gets (max)modded insightful

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  16. Re:And then by temcat · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm racking my brain, but I cannot think of a negative reason to remove mosquitoes from cities.

    Frogs eat moskitos. You leave frogs without food. Won't anybody please think of the frogs?

  17. Re:And then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The physical injury you get from a mosquito bite is a teeny tiny little pinprick of a puncture wound. The bit that actually annoys is the body's reaction to the chemicals in the mosquito's saliva, which causes the redness, the swelling, the itching. This is something which your body does adapt to the more you're exposed to it. Native people in mosquito-ridden parts have greatly reduced reactions to mosquito bites than hapless foreigners.

  18. Spoilsports.. by slashmojo · · Score: 2, Funny

    I find it a great way to unwind whenever there are too many bugs buzzing around my place I reach for the badminton racquet and go on a genocidal bug swatting rampage through the house.. its great fun and solves the bug problem for a while.. side effects include getting a good workout and having to buy more lightbulbs..

  19. Couldn't we . . . by unknownideal · · Score: 3, Funny

    . . . just make smaller, nano-mosquitoes to bite the regular mosquitoes and teach them a lesson?

  20. Interference: Not a problem by uberdave · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A Mosquito Magnet is a propane powered device that attracts mosquitos by emitting a plume of CO2. The CO2 (and water vapour and scent additives) emulate the breath of warm blooded animals. The mosquitos are lured into the trap and killed.

    The clever idea here is to network a bunch of these mosquito magnets, and a bunch of sensors, together, using wireless networking to remotely monitor propane levels, control burn times, etc. A large area can be protected, and the machines don't have to be on when they won't be needed (rain, high winds, cold, etc), thus extending their resources.

    The networking can be done by whatever method is most handy. 802.11b was probably the "in thing" when they started development.

  21. Stop, Think, Laugh by gone.fishing · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Up here in mosquito infested Minnesota, we will try just about anything to reduce the hordes of the buzzy little buggers that make our life miserable. In untreated areas of the state it is not too uncommon for people to stay inside on nice summer evenings because the mosquitos are horrible. Because I love the outdoors and cherrish my time out of the city, I'd try and do just about anything to deal with the buggers. I fog, I spray, I light those citronella candles and burn those coils, I apply repellent and I'll still get chased inside about twilight!

    This is because Minnesota is the land of 10,000 lakes AND 100,000 swamps, we get enough rain so low spots become puddles. We are prime mosquito breeding territory! What makes life so wonderful for us here is also perfect for mosquitos.

    Those propane burning things work but only in small areas and only in still weather when their exhaust can placidly spread out far enough to attract mosquitos. A gentle breeze will render the machine utterly ineffective. How often is the air still in a summer environment when mosquitos are most active? As the heat of the day disipates, gentle breezes almost always kick in, sometimes becoming not so gentle breezes. I'd put my money on these machines being truly effective perhaps ten percent of the time when you really, really need them (which is only about 10% of the day so, .10 x.10 =.01 or more simply, about one percent of the time!)

    In the daylight, or after dark the mosquitos are pretty dispersed. It is only in the evening hours that they get really bad. These mosquito magnets have been around for a few years, they are expensive and they burn propane which isn't cheap! Now this company wants to build a network of them? Perhaps a network large enough to cover a community? Wouldn't it be cheaper, more effective, and more environmentally friendly to issue everyone bottles of repellent? I like the stuff in the yellow and green can from 3M but 100% DEET works pretty well too.

    In my opinion, this concept of a computer controlled, propane powered mosquitio magnet net is the dream-child of some marketing exec. It is false science of the worst kind, sold as being believable and effective. It is snake-oil being sold by modern day snake oil salesmen!

    All you can do is laugh. P.T. Barnum was right, there is a sucker born every minute.

  22. I can't wait... by insectivorous · · Score: 2, Funny

    I've been involved in mosquito repellant trials, as a test subject.

    Yes, there are people who will donate their blood and time to counting and collecting all thee mosquitoes that bite them in the middle of a bog, with only whatever snake-oil product we're given to defend us. Most of our group is composed of entomologists, though, so we're weird like that.

    So far, we haven't seen any significant results with similar (non-topical) products- we'll be seeing about this one next summer, I suppose.

    I highly doubt, even if this does work, however, it would ever be applied to the 'save the world' purpose of fighting malaria in the third world. Let's be realistic, here. This is a product to keep upper middle class suburbanites in North America from feeling a little itchy and think they're protecting Grandma and Little Billy from getting big bad west Nile virus.

    The only realistic control for malaria in the third world? DDT. That's right. I said it! DDT is cheap. It can be incorporated into nettings and enclosures in the form of a wash, so very minimal amounts need to be released into the environment. It requires practically no technical expertise to install or maintain, and doesn't require inputs to 'run.'

    Now, I'm as leery of chlorinated hydrocarbons as the next granola-crunching hippy, and new, 'clean' (though one has to wonder the environmental impacts of the propane and whatever else goes into producing these things and to make them work) technologies are fine and good, but I can't stand the 'save the world' argument being fed to us here. These will never be in common use in the third world because they'll be comparatively expensive, require technical expertise to install and operate, and require constant fuel imputs. It's not realistic.

    I'd rather get a few mosquito bites than buy this miracle new product, thanks.