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Firefox 1.5 Final Now Available

yootje writes "Firefox 1.5 is out, you can download it right here: Linux; Mac; Windows. You can find more info about it in the release notes. Highlights are: Automated update, drag and drop reordering for browser tabs, improvements to popup blocking, better accessibility and better support for Mac OS X. Don't forget to make full use of the mirrors." It's semi-official.

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  1. Where are the RPMs? by podz · · Score: 4, Informative

    You would think that they could build packages for at least the most popular linux package management systems. Wonder how long til this shows up on the DAG repository...

  2. P2P downloads: by J0nne · · Score: 5, Informative

    For the people using Windows:
    Gnutella, G2 and ed2k go here.
    torrent can be found here.

    1. Re:P2P downloads: by StikyPad · · Score: 1, Informative

      In my experience, FF has been neither fast nor sleek. It's got a memory footprint like an elephant and page load times are mediocre at best. In fact, the ONLY reason I use it is because of the extensions. AdBlock almost makes pages load quickly plus saves me the annoyance of looking at unwanted ads, but "Sleek and Fast," are never the words I'd have used to describe FF, or any previous incarnation of Mozilla.

      (And no, FasterFox doesn't make FF render pages at the speeds of IE or Opera).

  3. Re:very nice by ndtechnologies · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yes. The GPG signature is from today, and their have been no additions to the tree since it was locked down. Oh, and that thread on Spreadfirefox is mine! http://www.spreadfirefox.com/node/20564

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  4. Re:The feature that Mozilla is still missing... by kbrosnan · · Score: 4, Informative

    Normally this means the server is sending the file as some binary format, file extensions don't matter. Try this Ubuntu torrent which works for me.

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  5. Using it now.. by bhsx · · Score: 5, Informative

    It seems very nice so far. I'd been using RC3 for a few days now. All extensions carried over for me, although I had to reset my Tabbed Browser Preferences.
    One of the nicest new features is the "Unable to Load" page that comes up instead of the alert that interupted your browsing, even while in another tab, on the older versions.
    Some of the rumorous new tab features haven't made it in so far, which is a shame. They're supposed to make tabs work more like Opera: Close tab returns to previous tab, and close box on each tab, as well as cleaning up the text in tabs. Oh well, overall very nice though.

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  6. Re:very nice by Aeiri · · Score: 4, Informative

    No, RC3 is just a release candidate. They haven't updated the pages because it's not officially out yet (check mozilla.org, newest is "1.0.7" according to that), however, the FTP directory for Firefox has 1.5 final (which usually means that the offical release for Firefox 1.5 is the next day, so it will probably be out tomorrow or later this week).

  7. Canvas tag support is a great feature by axonis · · Score: 2, Informative

    Do you remember the 3D FPS game demo using the canvas tag found in FireFox 1.5, I think this is a sign of things to come, and offers a good alternative to XAML support in IE7.

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  8. Re:very nice by Martin+Blank · · Score: 5, Informative

    RC3 build string:

    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8) Gecko/20051111 Firefox/1.5

    Release build string:

    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8) Gecko/20051111 Firefox/1.5

    RC3 MD5 hash:

    d0cbbd5d8c47fe36ee8f26fb1255838c

    Release MD5 hash:

    d0cbbd5d8c47fe36ee8f26fb1255838c

    RC3 SHA1 hash:

    fb6bed8635ff06e76cfde326e8dc5776b4efdb66

    Release SHA1 hash:

    fb6bed8635ff06e76cfde326e8dc5776b4efdb66

    They would appear to be the same thing.

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  9. Re:Pretty sweet by kbrosnan · · Score: 4, Informative

    See previous discusions about firefox and Acid2. Mainly it involves making serious changes to the Gecko layout engine. The changes were to risky for the 1.5 Firefox release. From the roadmaps it does not look like Firefox 2.0 will pass either.

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=167091&cid=139 31679
    http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=148742&cid= 12465304

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  10. Re:Pretty sweet by SmellTheCoffee · · Score: 4, Informative

    Does anyone know why Safari passes, but no other browsers?
    Konquerer does with KDE 3.5 released today. Check out http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/11/29/ 1336223&tid=121&tid=106this story.

  11. Re:The feature that Mozilla is still missing... by jesser · · Score: 4, Informative

    This can happen for two reasons.

    (1) the server uses content-disposition: attachment. In this case, the server is arguably telling the browser "do not open this file automatically". I'm not sure why Firefox cares that the server says that, though. See bug 236541.

    (2) the server uses content-type: application/octet-stream. In this case, I think it's a browser bug. I'm not sure this still happens.

    You might be able to tell which it is using web-sniffer.net or LiveHTTPHeaders.

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  12. Re:Pop ups. by jrumney · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's a sneaky Javascipt trick (which I won't go into in case it gives someone else ideas), and seems to be coming only from a.tribalfusion.com for me, so blackhole that in your /etc/hosts file and the annoying popups and pop-unders will disappear completely.

  13. Wither AMD64 Version? by tjstork · · Score: 2, Informative

    Come on guys, give us 64 bits! Do we dare risk a build from source?

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    1. Re:Wither AMD64 Version? by Stephen+Williams · · Score: 2, Informative

      Do we dare risk a build from source?

      I usually do my own Firefox builds from source (from the Debian source packages), for no particularly good reason other than because I can. It's actually pretty painless, as long as you're happy with apps that use autoconf for configuration. It does take a while on my 0.9GHz Duron (I write "900MHz" like that to make it look faster :-) but your shiny AMD64 should do it in the blink of an eye :-)

      -Stephen

    2. Re:Wither AMD64 Version? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
      Make then fails
      c++ -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -Wall -Wconversion -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align - Woverloaded-virtual -Wsynth -Wno-ctor-dtor-privacy -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -Wno-long-long -pedantic -fshort-wchar -pthread -pipe -DNDEBUG -DTRIMMED -O -fPIC -shared -Wl,-h -Wl,libmozz.so -o libmozz.so adler32.o compress.o crc32.o deflate.o gzio.o infback.o inffast.o inflate.o inftrees.o trees.o uncompr.o zutil.o -ldl -lm /usr/bin/ld: deflate.o: relocation R_X86_64_PC32 against `memcpy@@GLIBC_2.2.5' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC /usr/bin/ld: final link failed: Bad value


      It sounds like the build failed at zlib. Firefox bundles it's own version of zlib, primarily for Windows since it's not a standard library there. You can use the configure flag
      --with-system-zlib
      to force it to use your own (64-bit enabled) instead. BTW, you should be using a .mozconfig to set configure flags. Devmo has more information.
    3. Re:Wither AMD64 Version? by Stephen+Williams · · Score: 2, Informative

      Eeeeeek.

      You're probably not in the mood to try again, but here's some random thoughts anyway:

      From the looks of that error message, you might be able to work around the problem by setting the environment variables CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS to something like '-fPIC -O2'; that'll have the effect of ensuring that all C and C++ source files are compiled as position-independent code, which will hopefully work around that error.

      It's not a fix, though; it's a really tatty band-aid; it has the effect of compiling the whole silly browser with those flags set, which might cause something else to break. Actually, it almost certainly will cause something else to break.

      Those source files look like Mozilla's in-tree version of zlib. You might be able to sidestep the issue completely by passing --with-system-zlib to ./configure; if memory serves, that encourages the Firefox build process to use your own zlib installation rather than statically linking its own copy. There are a few other --with-system options as well; ./configure --help will tell you what they are.

      This page might be of some help too.

      In any case, I'm aware that my experiences with building Firefox aren't really a fair comparison with yours, as I've got the benefit of the Debian build process to help me, as well as a better supported architecture (the sole advantage of the IA-32 architecture, IMHO). It shouldn't be totally insurmountable if you have the patience, though. A while back, I successfully managed a Mozilla suite build on NetBSD of all things, though it took a whole afternoon of fiddling, and frequent Playstation breaks.

      -Stephen

  14. where to get Firefox by mykmelez · · Score: 4, Informative

    Please do *NOT* download it from ftp.mozilla.org. Please instead use our redirector, which has a lot more bandwidth:

    Windows: http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-1.5&o s=win&lang=en-US
    Mac OS X: http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-1.5&o s=osx&lang=en-US
    Linux: http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-1.5&o s=linux&lang=en-US

    Or, if you need a different language, get it from releases.mozilla.org, which doesn't have as much bandwidth as the redirector but still has *much* more than ftp.mozilla.org:

    http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefo x/releases/1.5/

    1. Re:where to get Firefox by mykmelez · · Score: 5, Informative

      Hmm, it looks like Slashdot stripped the &lang from these URLs. The correct URLs (in HTML mode this time with me escaping the ampersands) to get Firefox 1.5 from our redirector (which has the most bandwidth and thus is the most likely to get you the file fast) are:

      Windows
      Mac OS X
      Linux
  15. Torrent is safe. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I checked, the torrented file hash matches that in MD5SUMS. Should be OK (unless the NSA is trying to hax0r everyone)

  16. Re:The feature that Mozilla is still missing... by PhrostyMcByte · · Score: 5, Informative

    What he meant is the HTTP server isn't configured to send torrents with application/x-bittorrent as the Content-Type. Instead, it sends them as a generic application/octet-stream or worse text/plain which Firefox doesn't know what to do with.

  17. RC3 and final are the same exact thing by mykmelez · · Score: 5, Informative

    Note that Firefox 1.5 RC3 is the exact same as Firefox 1.5 down to every last bit. So if you already have RC3, you already have the final release. You don't need to download it again.

    Why? Well, because RC3 was the last release candidate, and having the last release candidate be exactly the same as the final release is the best way to ensure that all the testing the release candidate gets definitely applies to the final. Otherwise we would have run the risk of any change, no matter how minor, introducing a problem that we didn't foresee.

    So they're the same. Right down to the user agent string, the version number, etc. Do an md5sum on both files, and you'll get the same values. You get my drift.

  18. Re:Drag and drop reordering bug by kbrosnan · · Score: 3, Informative
    That would be Certain UI operations (opening dialogs, drag and drop) cause refresh, prolonged hang (CPU at 100%) bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=305970. It is only fixed on trunk builds which I strongly discourage people from using as the code is still pre alpha.

    Wait for your distro to have a binary to download or build from source and apply the patch.

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  19. 8 out of 10 not compatible here by SuperBanana · · Score: 2, Informative
    All extensions carried over for me, although I had to reset my Tabbed Browser Preferences.

    Looking at my extensions folder:

    • Switchproxy Tool: Disabled, not compatible with Firefox 1.5
    • Save Image in Folder: Disabled, not compatible with Firefox 1.5
    • View Formatted Source: Disabled, not compatible with Firefox 1.5
    • MapIt!: Disabled, not compatible with Firefox 1.5
    • Download Statusbar: Disabled, not compatible with Firefox 1.5
    • Bookmarks Synchronizer: Disabled, not compatible with Firefox 1.5
    • Redirect Remover: Disabled, not compatible with Firefox 1.5

    The only compatible extensions I have installed are Linkification (which takes "h##p://www.boo.com" links and makes them clickable, even if the "http" part has been munged) and Flashblock, which is a godsend.

    I just clicked "Find Updates", and not a single one of the plugins has an update available yet. I'm sorry, but I think it's pretty clear that a large number of popular extensions have yet to be updated for 1.5. I also really hope all my extensions don't break yet AGAIN with 1.6, because that'd be at least #3.

    1. Re:8 out of 10 not compatible here by billy_bob_boy · · Score: 2, Informative

      These extensions also give the message: "Disabled, not compatible with Firefox 1.5"

      Wish I would have waited a couple of weeks before I upgraded.

  20. Re:Halleujah! by dtfinch · · Score: 2, Informative

    browse to the url "about:mozilla"

  21. Re:The feature that Mozilla is still missing... by greed · · Score: 5, Informative

    OK, but for case (1) ("Content-disposition: attachment"), you've still asked FF to save it to disk automatically. In particular, it SHOULD NOT ask "Do you want to save this?". Ever.

    Even if there isn't "; filename=" on the Content-disposition header, you can guess at one by removing the last path element of the request URI. FireFox already asks for filenames much less often than Mozilla, so I don't want to see a filename request, either.

    I have heard that manually adding an "application/binary" entry in Helper Applications will prevent that; apparently, FireFox and Mozilla don't actually save the choice you just made for that MIME type.

    I think I did it on at least one of my machines, and have since forgotten if I did and/or if it worked. Which isn't very helpful... but Safari saves without prompting just fine.

  22. Re:SVG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm a big fan of native browser support of SVG (Scalable Vector Graphics).

    For those unfamiliar:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SVG

    Essentially it is a W3C standard xml based replacement for Flash animations and vector graphics.

    Inline SVG support holds great promise for being able to make some really nice user interfaces.

  23. Re:Pretty sweet by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 4, Informative

    Does anyone know why Safari passes, but no other browsers?

    Someone got annoyed that Safari did not pass and wrote patches to fix it. The KHTML team ported those patches so they also now pass the Acid2 test. Other developers have worked on fixing Gecko so that Firefox passes, but the changes required are fairly radical so they have thus far refrained from implementing them since they are afraid of breaking things. The IE team does not give a rat's ass about old standards, let alone newer ones or edge cases and will likely never pass. So to answer your question, because the Safari/KHTML codebase is neat and because someone felt like fixing it.

  24. Flash Problem Resolution by hal9000(jr) · · Score: 2, Informative

    So I just upped to 1.5 and Flash objects were not painting.

    I have Adblock 0.5.2.039, the latest. So go into Extensions, Adblock, Options and uncheck Obj-Tabs.

    Seems to get rid of the block tabs, otherwise it works fine.

  25. Re:ACID2, anyone? by SQFreak · · Score: 3, Informative

    It fails, as does Opera, and, even more miserably, IE. See a comparison screenshot.

  26. Re:Thank God... by SQFreak · · Score: 2, Informative

    You can still put IE Inside (tm). See IE Tab extension. I know I do, but only for those Websites that suck.

  27. Re:very nice by Timo_TM · · Score: 3, Informative
    grep source SHA1SUMS*
    SHA1SUMS:e808d54200625d5ace427cd050a3f4b913be106a ./source/firefox-1.5rc3-source.tar.bz2
    SHA1SUMS-1.5:7437c6a351787ec8762e598ae1852e22bcca3 220 ./source/firefox-1.5-source.tar.bz2

    grep dmg SHA1SUMS* | grep en-US
    SHA1SUMS:32788c106884477013303b730dcfa11714b1f538 ./mac/en-US/Firefox 1.5rc3.dmg
    SHA1SUMS-1.5:32788c106884477013303b730dcfa11714b1f 538 ./mac/en-US/Firefox 1.5.dmg

    ..so maybe they just haven't recompiled the binaries yet? One could think that at least the version number change would have some effect on the binaries.

  28. Re:very nice by Dan+Farina · · Score: 2, Informative

    but that's never true. Virtually all software ships with known issues and bugs.

  29. Re:Brilliant. by Cl1mh4224rd · · Score: 2, Informative
    So what does it say in Help/About then?
    It's said Firefox 1.5 since RC1, because there was the possibility that, given no significant bugs, it would then become the final (no point in patching just to change the name and user agent string).
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  30. If you are using SUSE 10 on x86 by raingrove · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you are using SUSE 10 on x86 machine,

    I believe you can use this RPM:
    http://ftp.gwdg.de/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/10.0-i386/R PMS.suse-projects/MozillaFirefox-1.4.99-3.1.i586.r pm

    It may be slightly "newer" than the actual release as it is 20051120 build rather than the "official" 20051111, but I believe it is safe to use this until a final RPM comes out.

    as the RPM is named 1.4.99 rather than 1.5, there would be no problem upgrading to the official build later.

  31. Get the NoScript extension. by khasim · · Score: 3, Informative

    Personally, I wish they'd whitelist javascript the same as they whitelist pop-ups.

    In the meantime, just grab the NoScript extension and do it yourself.

    FireFox 1.5, filled with extensionable goodness!

  32. Many extensions don't work by wk633 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Meaning you may well want to hold off until there is an official release, or until extension writers get a chance to catch up.

    1. Re:Many extensions don't work by nephridium · · Score: 1, Informative

      Yes, I had to revert to my previous version of Firefox, because some of the extensions were (still) not up to date. Now I'm thinking about restoring from a backup, because some of the extensions, that had upgrades available don't work with my old version :/

      There should be warnings about problems like these, that are likely to crop up, so people will know what to expect before downloading. Transparency usually is a good thing.

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  33. Re:I still have a bug by tommers · · Score: 2, Informative

    I had this "bug" too. I turned off Greasemonkey and the problem was solved. Guess we have to wait for the next version of Greasemonkey

  34. Re:ACID2, anyone? by Kelson · · Score: 3, Informative

    They'd already more-or-less frozen the rendering engine for 1.5 when Acid2 was released in early April. Remember, this was originally planned for a midsummer release as Firefox 1.1. All the Acid2-related work is going on in Gecko 1.9 which will probably form the basis of Firefox 2.0. (Firefox 1.0 used Gecko 1.7, and Firefox 1.5 uses Gecko 1.8.)

    Opera was in similar straits, even though they basically wrote the test -- they were just putting the finishing touches on Opera 8.0, which came out barely a week later. Of course, that means they started a new development cycle just afterward, and in-house versions of Opera are reportedly very close to passing.

    Opera 9 and Firefox 2.0 are likely to pass Acid2 along with Safari 2.0.2, iCab 3 (if they ever release a final version), and Konqueror 4.0 (or does 3.5 include the fixes?) IE7 almost certainly will not. IE8? Who knows?

  35. Hidden Flash content with adblock on..... by crhylove · · Score: 2, Informative

    No matter WHAT. You plain can't see any flash with adblock on, no matter that the flash content is not blocked. Torturous for people buried in flash constructions...

    rhY

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  36. Re:very nice by smartcat99s · · Score: 5, Informative

    From http://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox:1.1_Product_Team:

    FIREFOX 1.5 RC3

    Firefox 1.5 RC3 was released on 2005-11-17.

    If no showstopper issues are identified with this build, it will be released as Firefox 1.5 (Final)

    This is the 3rd Release Candidate (RC3) for Firefox 1.5, addressing any regressions or other bugs uncovered in the 2nd Release Candidate (RC2). It is officially branded as Firefox 1.5 and has been released to the community for testing and quality checking. It is of production quality and is also a final opportunity for Extension, Theme, l10n and web application developers to finalize their support for Firefox 1.5 before final release.

  37. Re:Mac OS X review by donutello · · Score: 2, Informative

    Randomly refuses to respond to keyboard input (Can be worked around by Hiding and Unhiding Firefox)
    Randomly refuses to respond to mouse scroll events.
    Sometimes will refuse to respond to being clicked on until you click on the Dock icon first.

    I'm going back to the previous version.

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  38. Re:The feature that Mozilla is still missing... by poulbailey · · Score: 2, Informative

    A fully patched IE6 under XP SP2 doesn't go by the extension anymore, FYI.

  39. Re:SVG? by CaptainPinko · · Score: 3, Informative

    A quick Google of svg clipart produces the Open ClipArt Library.

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  40. No problems here... by Hamster+Lover · · Score: 2, Informative

    Mac Mini with 512 MB RAM running 10.4.3 and it runs just about perfectly -- nice and fast. I do find the text selection does not work properly on occasion, ie. selecting and dragging the text oftens occurs in the wrong direction. On the plus side, Citrix works fine while it does not work for me in Safari. I like the ability to re-order tabs and the tab behavior controls are much more comprehensive then Safari, but I will miss the Flashblock plugin as it does not work (yet) with 1.5 or later (any release candidate).

    I found Firefox 1.3 sluggish but 1.5 is swift, so I am switching to Firefox from Safari for now.

  41. Re:CPU and memory hogging in Firefox 1.5 is far wo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    The release notes at http://www.squarefree.com/burningedge/releases/1.5 -comprehensive.html say that bug "131456 - Memory use does not go down after closing tabs" has been fixed.

    However if you read the bug text you can see that this years old bug has been closed only because, in the eyes of one developer, perpetually increasing memory usage is only a symptom of a memory leak, not the cause. Presumably users should only report problems for which fixes already exist.

    Developers explain that the cause of the problem is actually due to several underlying hard bugs, so a "meta bug" like this one should not be open. Separate bugs should be filed instead on all of the undisclosed problems.

    Users were also haranged over and over into providing specific test cases for the general problem. Amusingly, when one user suggested using http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_mono/ libc.html as an example (try loading and closing it into a multiple tabs a few times and look at your virtual memory utilization or the about:cache built-in page) he was berated by a developer for reporting a problem with a website and not the memory leak the website triggers!

  42. Re:CPU and memory hogging bug in Firefox 1.5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    See http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=169676&cid=141 43632 about bug 131456
    dating from 2002. The developers got tired of hearing about it and closed it as "RESOLVED".

    I especially like it when memory cache size goes 10x above the maximum memory cache size you have set on the browser "about:cache" page.

  43. I regret "upgrading" to 1.5 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    1.0.7 was working flawlessly for me. I updated to 1.5, and now it seems, there are many different situations where the browser will appear to "lock-up" for several seconds at a time and using 100% cpu utilization. Has anyone else experienced this?

    Also, still noticably missing, is the ability to tell the browser to over-ride the preferences of the webserver in terms of mime type vs. file extension. If I want .xyz files to open with XYZ_Application, I should be able to configure the web browser to open the file with the application, regardless of what MIME type the webserver may claim it is supposed to be.

    sigh... I guess it is still better than the alternatives...
    I guess with this release, I'm almost as disgruntled as when I "upgraded" from netscape 3.x to the 4.x "communicator" bullshit... I can't complain too much, it is free afterall...

  44. Re:SVG? by g-san · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here take a look at this svg demo.