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Firefox 1.5 Final Now Available

yootje writes "Firefox 1.5 is out, you can download it right here: Linux; Mac; Windows. You can find more info about it in the release notes. Highlights are: Automated update, drag and drop reordering for browser tabs, improvements to popup blocking, better accessibility and better support for Mac OS X. Don't forget to make full use of the mirrors." It's semi-official.

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  1. Where are the RPMs? by podz · · Score: 4, Informative

    You would think that they could build packages for at least the most popular linux package management systems. Wonder how long til this shows up on the DAG repository...

    1. Re:Where are the RPMs? by MarcQuadra · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's not Mozilla's job at all. Their job is to produce the best web browser, it's up to all the distribution maintainers to provide packages for thier flavors.

      Mozilla already invests a tremendous amount of time, effort, and money in maintaining a three-platform build farm http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/showbuilds.cgi?tree=F irefox. Do you really want them spending their time trying to figuring out the nuances of the top five distributions as well?

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  2. P2P downloads: by J0nne · · Score: 5, Informative

    For the people using Windows:
    Gnutella, G2 and ed2k go here.
    torrent can be found here.

    1. Re:P2P downloads: by xtracto · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No way I will download something from those Sweden pirates sites!
      OMG! you will be visited by the MPAA soon! =oP

      Anyway, just for the sake of completness, I was just looking at the "Roadmap" for Firefox 2.0,3.0.
      It seems that the once "sleek, fast and stand alone browser" will continue to be bloated and bloated with features.

      Why, o why dont the just freeze the 1.5 release and try to fix EVERY bug in the bugzilla database!

      For example, I have installed the 1.5 version, and still the Find function does not work as expected on multiple frames (Java Api Documentation). There has been a bug filed on bugzilla for quite some time now (one year IIRC).

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    2. Re:P2P downloads: by Seumas · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I realize that every individual has their own set of priorities and concerns with their browser, but that's exactly what's great about extensions. Put the necessary stuff in and leave the optional stuff optional. Keep the footprint small and avoid both bloat and insecurity in the process.

      I don't see a lot of things in the 3.0 roadmap that are questionable. Do you? They are things that will improve browsing in general and would be of most use to the most people with the least negative impact. This isn't like cramming ForecastFox into every installation by default or anything.

      In fact, I don't think you've read through the entire list because in most cases, they are simply improving current functionalities and interfaces. The footprint is already there. The functions and features largely already exist. Improving on them is a GOOD THING because you're squeezing more return out of the existing investment.

      The aim is for "Less than a 5.0 MB download on Windows".
      The current Win32 download is 4.98MB

      After all these modifications and improvements, where is this bloat you speak of? 4.98MB to 5.0MB is an increase of about 4/10ths of one percent.

    3. Re:P2P downloads: by ArbitraryConstant · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "I realize that every individual has their own set of priorities and concerns with their browser, but that's exactly what's great about extensions. Put the necessary stuff in and leave the optional stuff optional. Keep the footprint small and avoid both bloat and insecurity in the process."

      This is exactly it. If I can be forgiven for using a cliche, "extensions are the new tabs". They're as much of a killer app as tabs were, IMO.

      Not only do extensions make it possible to keep the base install simple and add features only a fraction of people want (eg mouse gestures, sessions) on an as-needed basis, they allow lawsuitbait features (eg BugMeNot integration) and features too narrow in scope to make it into an official release (eg enhancements for specific websites like Fark).

      Naturally, some want a browser that works the way they want out of the box, and perhaps Firefox can't do that for everyone. I have no problem with that. I don't even have a problem with people using IE. What I like is that there's a powerful choice that works well for me, and the fact that IE's market share isn't high enough to let websites start requiring it again (it still happens but it was much more common a few years ago).

      Also... now that the Mac version doesn't suck I can ditch Safari. It still has a slightly smaller memory footprint, but it's not significantly faster anymore and there are themes that help Firefox look native. With Firefox's feature lead, it's worth a small memory hit even on my older iBook, and with the ruthless efficiency of the AdBlock and Fliterset.G Updater extensions I even end up saving memory.

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  3. The feature that Mozilla is still missing... by daVinci1980 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Or maybe I just haven't figured out how to get it to work properly (please correct me if I'm wrong).

    When I click "Automatically do this for files of this type", stop showing me the prompt box for what to do with this file everytime the file comes up!

    This happens a lot, especially with Torrent files. I tell firefox to launch Azureus whenever it sees a torrent. I tell it to always do this automatically for me. What does it do? It prompts me for every godamn torrent file as to whether is should save it or launch it into Azureus.

    I torrent a lot of stuff, so this is really, really annoying.

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    1. Re:The feature that Mozilla is still missing... by kbrosnan · · Score: 4, Informative

      Normally this means the server is sending the file as some binary format, file extensions don't matter. Try this Ubuntu torrent which works for me.

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    2. Re:The feature that Mozilla is still missing... by jesser · · Score: 4, Informative

      This can happen for two reasons.

      (1) the server uses content-disposition: attachment. In this case, the server is arguably telling the browser "do not open this file automatically". I'm not sure why Firefox cares that the server says that, though. See bug 236541.

      (2) the server uses content-type: application/octet-stream. In this case, I think it's a browser bug. I'm not sure this still happens.

      You might be able to tell which it is using web-sniffer.net or LiveHTTPHeaders.

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    3. Re:The feature that Mozilla is still missing... by PhrostyMcByte · · Score: 5, Informative

      What he meant is the HTTP server isn't configured to send torrents with application/x-bittorrent as the Content-Type. Instead, it sends them as a generic application/octet-stream or worse text/plain which Firefox doesn't know what to do with.

    4. Re:The feature that Mozilla is still missing... by greed · · Score: 5, Informative

      OK, but for case (1) ("Content-disposition: attachment"), you've still asked FF to save it to disk automatically. In particular, it SHOULD NOT ask "Do you want to save this?". Ever.

      Even if there isn't "; filename=" on the Content-disposition header, you can guess at one by removing the last path element of the request URI. FireFox already asks for filenames much less often than Mozilla, so I don't want to see a filename request, either.

      I have heard that manually adding an "application/binary" entry in Helper Applications will prevent that; apparently, FireFox and Mozilla don't actually save the choice you just made for that MIME type.

      I think I did it on at least one of my machines, and have since forgotten if I did and/or if it worked. Which isn't very helpful... but Safari saves without prompting just fine.

    5. Re:The feature that Mozilla is still missing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Dumbest post to be moderated as insightful ever!

      A file extension is no guarentee of the file type. How many emails with .scr extensions are actually screensavers?

    6. Re:The feature that Mozilla is still missing... by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Because spoofing a content type is brain surgery. If the problem is that some websites aren't properly tagging the content type, that means it's not tamper-proof, huh? Doesn't imply security.

      Are you telling me that if someone emailed you a screensaver, and the content type said screensaver, that you'd open it? If so, you're retarded.

  4. Couldn't wait for the official releas? by carlmenezes · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Yeah, the download is available. But it hasn't been officially released yet. Come on people! Let's make the launch a nice event by downloading it then! I wanted to post the exact same thing but didn't because after so much hard work on the part of the Firefox Team, I don't mind waiting a few hours to make their release a huge success. And no, I'm not going to download it until it's officially announced. That's my little way of helping to recognize the official launch.

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  5. Using it now.. by bhsx · · Score: 5, Informative

    It seems very nice so far. I'd been using RC3 for a few days now. All extensions carried over for me, although I had to reset my Tabbed Browser Preferences.
    One of the nicest new features is the "Unable to Load" page that comes up instead of the alert that interupted your browsing, even while in another tab, on the older versions.
    Some of the rumorous new tab features haven't made it in so far, which is a shame. They're supposed to make tabs work more like Opera: Close tab returns to previous tab, and close box on each tab, as well as cleaning up the text in tabs. Oh well, overall very nice though.

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  6. Re:very nice by Aeiri · · Score: 4, Informative

    No, RC3 is just a release candidate. They haven't updated the pages because it's not officially out yet (check mozilla.org, newest is "1.0.7" according to that), however, the FTP directory for Firefox has 1.5 final (which usually means that the offical release for Firefox 1.5 is the next day, so it will probably be out tomorrow or later this week).

  7. Pretty sweet by Hao+Wu · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Still doesn't pass the Acid 2 Test.

    Does anyone know why Safari passes, but no other browsers? (Perhaps the Acid just love Apple?)

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    1. Re:Pretty sweet by kbrosnan · · Score: 4, Informative

      See previous discusions about firefox and Acid2. Mainly it involves making serious changes to the Gecko layout engine. The changes were to risky for the 1.5 Firefox release. From the roadmaps it does not look like Firefox 2.0 will pass either.

      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=167091&cid=139 31679
      http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=148742&cid= 12465304

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    2. Re:Pretty sweet by SmellTheCoffee · · Score: 4, Informative

      Does anyone know why Safari passes, but no other browsers?
      Konquerer does with KDE 3.5 released today. Check out http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/11/29/ 1336223&tid=121&tid=106this story.

    3. Re:Pretty sweet by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 4, Informative

      Does anyone know why Safari passes, but no other browsers?

      Someone got annoyed that Safari did not pass and wrote patches to fix it. The KHTML team ported those patches so they also now pass the Acid2 test. Other developers have worked on fixing Gecko so that Firefox passes, but the changes required are fairly radical so they have thus far refrained from implementing them since they are afraid of breaking things. The IE team does not give a rat's ass about old standards, let alone newer ones or edge cases and will likely never pass. So to answer your question, because the Safari/KHTML codebase is neat and because someone felt like fixing it.

  8. Heavy Stress on Gentoo Boxes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    WHAT?!!? My Gentoo box is already busy compiling KDE 3.5! Now you're telling me to start compiling Firefox 1.5 too!? My CPU's so busy it be cryin'.

  9. I guess we need posts like these...... by 8127972 · · Score: 5, Funny

    .....To kill the time between Google posts.

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  10. Re:very nice by Martin+Blank · · Score: 5, Informative

    RC3 build string:

    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8) Gecko/20051111 Firefox/1.5

    Release build string:

    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8) Gecko/20051111 Firefox/1.5

    RC3 MD5 hash:

    d0cbbd5d8c47fe36ee8f26fb1255838c

    Release MD5 hash:

    d0cbbd5d8c47fe36ee8f26fb1255838c

    RC3 SHA1 hash:

    fb6bed8635ff06e76cfde326e8dc5776b4efdb66

    Release SHA1 hash:

    fb6bed8635ff06e76cfde326e8dc5776b4efdb66

    They would appear to be the same thing.

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  11. 1.5 RC3 and Final are the same by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If you already have Firefox 1.5 RC3 installed, don't bother with this. It's the exact same file, the md5 sums are even the same:

    d0cbbd5d8c47fe36ee8f26fb1255838c - Firefox Setup 1.5.exe
    d0cbbd5d8c47fe36ee8f26fb1255838c - Firefox Setup 1.5rc3.exe

  12. Drag and drop reordering bug by njchick · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The downside of "drag and drop reordering" is that accidental dragging of the current tab to the current page causes 100% CPU utilization for several seconds, the page is reloaded and the form entries are lost without a warning. Observed with Firefox 1.5 RC1 and RC2 on Linux.

  13. Halleujah! by queenb**ch · · Score: 4, Funny

    The first prophet was called Netscape and he was mighty, leading the people serenely through the internet. But the people forsook the prophet and the prophet turned to evil ways. In time, the first prophet was corrupted by evil in the form of the giant ISP known as Baal or AOL.

    The second prophet was a false prophet called Internet Explorer, which hid its true nature from the people until it was nearly too late since it was sent out by the great deceiver, Microsoft. The great deceiver tried to limit their access to the internet and to turn them aside from anything that the deceiver did not make money off of.

    The people groaned and labored to feed the great deceiver, but alas, nothing could fill his belly. The great deciever blessed the heresey of having the browser integrated into the operating system. Loudly did the people cry unto the computer gods for a new prophet to lead them, but the gods were angry since the had given the people Linux. The people ignored Linux and chose to follow the great deceiver.

    Finally, the computer gods softened their hearts and heard the cries of the people and sent a third prophet. The people are fortunate that they have not been abandoned for straying from the path of Linux. Mighty indeed is the penguin. A new prophet has been sent to lead us out of the valley of the shadow of ActiveX.

    Halleujah!

    The heavens opened, the angels sang, and Firefox descended into our midst to releive us from the woe that is Internet Explorer.

    2 cents,

    Queen B

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  14. where to get Firefox by mykmelez · · Score: 4, Informative

    Please do *NOT* download it from ftp.mozilla.org. Please instead use our redirector, which has a lot more bandwidth:

    Windows: http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-1.5&o s=win&lang=en-US
    Mac OS X: http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-1.5&o s=osx&lang=en-US
    Linux: http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-1.5&o s=linux&lang=en-US

    Or, if you need a different language, get it from releases.mozilla.org, which doesn't have as much bandwidth as the redirector but still has *much* more than ftp.mozilla.org:

    http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefo x/releases/1.5/

    1. Re:where to get Firefox by mykmelez · · Score: 5, Informative

      Hmm, it looks like Slashdot stripped the &lang from these URLs. The correct URLs (in HTML mode this time with me escaping the ampersands) to get Firefox 1.5 from our redirector (which has the most bandwidth and thus is the most likely to get you the file fast) are:

      Windows
      Mac OS X
      Linux
  15. new problems introduced by SuperBanana · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Highlights are: Automated update, drag and drop reordering for browser tabs, improvements to popup blocking, better accessibility and better support for Mac OS X

    Dark alley corners are:

    • Nightmarish cookie management. You can now search (which is nice), but you can't select more than one cookie at a time (the usual key modifiers do nothing). Hitting delete does nothing. I filed a bug about the selection thing and the answer was "oh well, next release, not going to make it for 1.5" Said bug was filed almost a month ago.
    • Select text in the URL-bar on the Macintosh. Hit the left arrow key, which should put you at the start of the block of text. But doen't- unlike the behavior in the text entry boxes on a webpage. WTF?
    • Every. Single. Time. You. Download. Something. You. Get. Asked. What. To. Do. Even. If. You. Checked. Do. This. Every. Time. ARRGGGGGGGG. Why can't it remember these preferences!?
    • Keyboard shortcuts randomly stop working. Command-W being the most obvious, as you go to close a tab or window...and nooooothing happens.
    • Plugin "security" is completely non-sensical. If I'm visiting a website of a plugin author, you're forced to navigate to the prefs panel and then go back and click the link again. Instead of blocking the installation of anything, why doesn't this do what IE does with DirectX controls and such, ie say "hey, this page WANTS to do this, SHOULD I let it?", with an option of "Yes please"? Instead we get "I blocked this. Just thought you'd like to know. Go here if you want to enable it." Especially since it encourages two very insecure things: a)permitting the entire hostname access b)permanently (since few users are likely to go BACK and DELETE the entry)

    That's all that I can think of right off the top of my head- but the cookie and URL bar problems are driving me nuts.

  16. Re:Finally (pun) by Phroggy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I hate beta-testing or QA'ing software and not getting paid for it.

    Welcome to open source. Very few other people are getting paid for it either. The Mozilla Foundation does have some employees, but the vast majority of the work is done by volunteers.

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  17. RC3 and final are the same exact thing by mykmelez · · Score: 5, Informative

    Note that Firefox 1.5 RC3 is the exact same as Firefox 1.5 down to every last bit. So if you already have RC3, you already have the final release. You don't need to download it again.

    Why? Well, because RC3 was the last release candidate, and having the last release candidate be exactly the same as the final release is the best way to ensure that all the testing the release candidate gets definitely applies to the final. Otherwise we would have run the risk of any change, no matter how minor, introducing a problem that we didn't foresee.

    So they're the same. Right down to the user agent string, the version number, etc. Do an md5sum on both files, and you'll get the same values. You get my drift.

  18. Re:very nice by topical_surfactant · · Score: 5, Funny

    Nice job, dude. You may have just discovered why they call it a release candidate.

  19. Re:Finally (pun) by cowboy76Spain · · Score: 5, Funny

    Awesome. I've been waiting for a while now for this to be finalized. I hate beta-testing or QA'ing software and not getting paid for it.

    That's why I'm still using Windows 3.11

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  20. Re:very nice by smartcat99s · · Score: 5, Informative

    From http://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox:1.1_Product_Team:

    FIREFOX 1.5 RC3

    Firefox 1.5 RC3 was released on 2005-11-17.

    If no showstopper issues are identified with this build, it will be released as Firefox 1.5 (Final)

    This is the 3rd Release Candidate (RC3) for Firefox 1.5, addressing any regressions or other bugs uncovered in the 2nd Release Candidate (RC2). It is officially branded as Firefox 1.5 and has been released to the community for testing and quality checking. It is of production quality and is also a final opportunity for Extension, Theme, l10n and web application developers to finalize their support for Firefox 1.5 before final release.

  21. Re:very nice by Misch · · Score: 4, Funny

    release candidate 1". But sometimes there are bugs, so you fix them, and put out "release candidate 2", and let all the monkeys hammer on it some more, and sure enough they break some things so you fix them and try again with 'release candidate 4'

    <MontyPython>Three, sir!</MontyPython>

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  22. First impressions: what's new in 1.5? by Lord+Bitman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    - An uglier, less-functional prefrences screen which hides more options at a time
    - New, non-standard "flat" look for the menus (presumably trying to emulate MS-office in windows XP)
    - Extension interface broken once again, so no 1.5 support for some extensions
    - new "Hey look, we're pretending to be IE!"-style error pages (less-intrusive than error popups, I'm mixed on this one.)
    - Some of the more-important functions of tabbrowser extensions seem to be included, but I'm not going to bother to disable tbe to find out if it's "good enough"
    - http://www.yzzerdd.com/, http://www.snopes.com/ no longer seem to succeed at opening popups (Yes I'm against ad blocking, No I'm not against blocking browser-hijacking.)
    - Still seems to have whatever bug makes it sometimes simply "stop responding to all links", but now seems to recover from it after a long delay, rather than requiring browser restart.
    - No obvious improvements to the bookmarks panel
    - The incredibly stupid favorite-icon bug is still there. I dont know what idiocy causes this, but it certainly /looks/ a lot like something being left uninitialized or simply an offbyone error. Seriously, what is wrong that you havent fixed this by now?

    So, verdict for the moment: Less fun to look at, more good.

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