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Firefox 1.5 Final Now Available
yootje writes "Firefox 1.5 is out, you can download it right here: Linux; Mac; Windows. You can find more info about it in the release notes. Highlights are: Automated update, drag and drop reordering for browser tabs, improvements to popup blocking, better accessibility and better support for Mac OS X. Don't forget to make full use of the mirrors." It's semi-official.
I have been running RC3 for quite a while, very nice indeed
.kyle
You would think that they could build packages for at least the most popular linux package management systems. Wonder how long til this shows up on the DAG repository...
For the people using Windows:
Gnutella, G2 and ed2k go here.
torrent can be found here.
"Firefox 1.5 is out, you can download it right here."
;-) Everyone knows the most popular stuff on the Internet can't be seen in a speed faster than dialup in the outback of Saskatchewan, due to the heavy demand. Spybot's update servers are a good indicator of this effect.
A fitting tribute would be to slashdot the mozilla site into obscurity for at least the first 24 hours. I'm sure Microsoft will try even if the general public doesn't manage to do it
Saskboy's blog is good. 9 out of 10 dentists agree.
Or maybe I just haven't figured out how to get it to work properly (please correct me if I'm wrong).
When I click "Automatically do this for files of this type", stop showing me the prompt box for what to do with this file everytime the file comes up!
This happens a lot, especially with Torrent files. I tell firefox to launch Azureus whenever it sees a torrent. I tell it to always do this automatically for me. What does it do? It prompts me for every godamn torrent file as to whether is should save it or launch it into Azureus.
I torrent a lot of stuff, so this is really, really annoying.
I currently have no clever signature witicism to add here.
Drag and drop reordering of tabs? Like Opera version a "couple of them ago"? :-P
Apart from the troll. Props to the firefox team. Keep up the good work!
Adolfo
Now I can finally use that cool black theme! And tabbed browsing! Without seriously sacrificing computer stability!
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Yeah, the download is available. But it hasn't been officially released yet. Come on people! Let's make the launch a nice event by downloading it then! I wanted to post the exact same thing but didn't because after so much hard work on the part of the Firefox Team, I don't mind waiting a few hours to make their release a huge success. And no, I'm not going to download it until it's officially announced. That's my little way of helping to recognize the official launch.
Find a job you like and you will never work a day in your life.
Until i see it on the official Firefox Website http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ I ain't downloadin' squat.
Except they forgot to put IE inside.
It seems very nice so far. I'd been using RC3 for a few days now. All extensions carried over for me, although I had to reset my Tabbed Browser Preferences.
One of the nicest new features is the "Unable to Load" page that comes up instead of the alert that interupted your browsing, even while in another tab, on the older versions.
Some of the rumorous new tab features haven't made it in so far, which is a shame. They're supposed to make tabs work more like Opera: Close tab returns to previous tab, and close box on each tab, as well as cleaning up the text in tabs. Oh well, overall very nice though.
put the what in the where?
Does anyone know why Safari passes, but no other browsers? (Perhaps the Acid just love Apple?)
I suggest you read Slashdot
WHAT?!!? My Gentoo box is already busy compiling KDE 3.5! Now you're telling me to start compiling Firefox 1.5 too!? My CPU's so busy it be cryin'.
.....To kill the time between Google posts.
This is my opinion. To make sure you don't steal it, it's covered by the DMCA.
Do you remember the 3D FPS game demo using the canvas tag found in FireFox 1.5, I think this is a sign of things to come, and offers a good alternative to XAML support in IE7.
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If you already have Firefox 1.5 RC3 installed, don't bother with this. It's the exact same file, the md5 sums are even the same:
d0cbbd5d8c47fe36ee8f26fb1255838c - Firefox Setup 1.5.exe
d0cbbd5d8c47fe36ee8f26fb1255838c - Firefox Setup 1.5rc3.exe
The downside of "drag and drop reordering" is that accidental dragging of the current tab to the current page causes 100% CPU utilization for several seconds, the page is reloaded and the form entries are lost without a warning. Observed with Firefox 1.5 RC1 and RC2 on Linux.
The first prophet was called Netscape and he was mighty, leading the people serenely through the internet. But the people forsook the prophet and the prophet turned to evil ways. In time, the first prophet was corrupted by evil in the form of the giant ISP known as Baal or AOL.
The second prophet was a false prophet called Internet Explorer, which hid its true nature from the people until it was nearly too late since it was sent out by the great deceiver, Microsoft. The great deceiver tried to limit their access to the internet and to turn them aside from anything that the deceiver did not make money off of.
The people groaned and labored to feed the great deceiver, but alas, nothing could fill his belly. The great deciever blessed the heresey of having the browser integrated into the operating system. Loudly did the people cry unto the computer gods for a new prophet to lead them, but the gods were angry since the had given the people Linux. The people ignored Linux and chose to follow the great deceiver.
Finally, the computer gods softened their hearts and heard the cries of the people and sent a third prophet. The people are fortunate that they have not been abandoned for straying from the path of Linux. Mighty indeed is the penguin. A new prophet has been sent to lead us out of the valley of the shadow of ActiveX.
Halleujah!
The heavens opened, the angels sang, and Firefox descended into our midst to releive us from the woe that is Internet Explorer.
2 cents,
Queen B
HDGary secures my bank
It's a sneaky Javascipt trick (which I won't go into in case it gives someone else ideas), and seems to be coming only from a.tribalfusion.com for me, so blackhole that in your /etc/hosts file and the annoying popups and pop-unders will disappear completely.
Come on guys, give us 64 bits! Do we dare risk a build from source?
This is my sig.
Please do *NOT* download it from ftp.mozilla.org. Please instead use our redirector, which has a lot more bandwidth:
o s=win&lang=en-USo s=osx&lang=en-USo s=linux&lang=en-US
o x/releases/1.5/
Windows: http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-1.5&
Mac OS X: http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-1.5&
Linux: http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-1.5&
Or, if you need a different language, get it from releases.mozilla.org, which doesn't have as much bandwidth as the redirector but still has *much* more than ftp.mozilla.org:
http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firef
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Big red letters, you can't miss it: Firefox1.5 is not yet out
Dark alley corners are:
That's all that I can think of right off the top of my head- but the cookie and URL bar problems are driving me nuts.
Please help metamoderate.
I hate beta-testing or QA'ing software and not getting paid for it.
Welcome to open source. Very few other people are getting paid for it either. The Mozilla Foundation does have some employees, but the vast majority of the work is done by volunteers.
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Note that Firefox 1.5 RC3 is the exact same as Firefox 1.5 down to every last bit. So if you already have RC3, you already have the final release. You don't need to download it again.
Why? Well, because RC3 was the last release candidate, and having the last release candidate be exactly the same as the final release is the best way to ensure that all the testing the release candidate gets definitely applies to the final. Otherwise we would have run the risk of any change, no matter how minor, introducing a problem that we didn't foresee.
So they're the same. Right down to the user agent string, the version number, etc. Do an md5sum on both files, and you'll get the same values. You get my drift.
Actually, having one browser used universally everywhere, whether its FF, IE, Opera, etc., is more of a security threat. Diversity is the best time-tested defense against viruses as well as the best way to insure survival.
Good example from nature: not long ago in a lab in VA, an airborn strain of Ebola was discovered killing off the lab monkeys. The virus was confirmed to be airborn, confirmed to be killing the monkeys, and confirmed to have infected humans working with the monkeys, and show to be spreading fast (as airborn viruses tend to be). Why didn't people die in vast numbers?
Genetic diversity.
The airborn strain of Ebola only killed one species of monkey.
I hope IE never goes away, nor FF, nor Opera, nor Safari. Diversity (OS, browsers, etc) is the best defense.
"We are all geniuses when we dream"
- E.M. Cioran
It's semi-official.
And now that it has been Slashdotted, it's fully-official.
Looking at my extensions folder:
The only compatible extensions I have installed are Linkification (which takes "h##p://www.boo.com" links and makes them clickable, even if the "http" part has been munged) and Flashblock, which is a godsend.
I just clicked "Find Updates", and not a single one of the plugins has an update available yet. I'm sorry, but I think it's pretty clear that a large number of popular extensions have yet to be updated for 1.5. I also really hope all my extensions don't break yet AGAIN with 1.6, because that'd be at least #3.
Please help metamoderate.
I'm a big fan of native browser support of SVG (Scalable Vector Graphics).
For those unfamiliar:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SVG
Essentially it is a W3C standard xml based replacement for Flash animations and vector graphics.
Inline SVG support holds great promise for being able to make some really nice user interfaces.
Awesome. I've been waiting for a while now for this to be finalized. I hate beta-testing or QA'ing software and not getting paid for it.
That's why I'm still using Windows 3.11
Why can't
Maybe because the file is only 5MB? Bittorrent is not very efficient for such small files. ^_^
Seriously, why wouldn't they distribute it using a bit torrent?
There are already torrents available for it, but thats not the real reason. Not everyone has bittorrent installed or knows how to use it, so until bittorrent becomes a more widely accepted protocol for downloading, methinks HTTP and FTP will be around for awhile.
I've even tried completely wiping out my config and seeing stuff w/ default settings. Uhg! I still get pops, but I also get those annoying plugin install notices (which, I've turned off)
So, fresh install, fresh configs.. pops galore.
-- these are only opinions and they might not be mine.
So I just upped to 1.5 and Flash objects were not painting.
I have Adblock 0.5.2.039, the latest. So go into Extensions, Adblock, Options and uncheck Obj-Tabs.
Seems to get rid of the block tabs, otherwise it works fine.
It fails, as does Opera, and, even more miserably, IE. See a comparison screenshot.
You can still put IE Inside (tm). See IE Tab extension. I know I do, but only for those Websites that suck.
Maybe because the file is only 5MB? Bittorrent is not very efficient for such small files.
It'd be nice for the source though. The tarball weighs in at 33 megabytes.
People will pass up steak once a week, for crap every day.
If you are using SUSE 10 on x86 machine,
R PMS.suse-projects/MozillaFirefox-1.4.99-3.1.i586.r pm
I believe you can use this RPM:
http://ftp.gwdg.de/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/10.0-i386/
It may be slightly "newer" than the actual release as it is 20051120 build rather than the "official" 20051111, but I believe it is safe to use this until a final RPM comes out.
as the RPM is named 1.4.99 rather than 1.5, there would be no problem upgrading to the official build later.
Personally, I wish they'd whitelist javascript the same as they whitelist pop-ups.
In the meantime, just grab the NoScript extension and do it yourself.
FireFox 1.5, filled with extensionable goodness!
Meaning you may well want to hold off until there is an official release, or until extension writers get a chance to catch up.
I had this "bug" too. I turned off Greasemonkey and the problem was solved. Guess we have to wait for the next version of Greasemonkey
They'd already more-or-less frozen the rendering engine for 1.5 when Acid2 was released in early April. Remember, this was originally planned for a midsummer release as Firefox 1.1. All the Acid2-related work is going on in Gecko 1.9 which will probably form the basis of Firefox 2.0. (Firefox 1.0 used Gecko 1.7, and Firefox 1.5 uses Gecko 1.8.)
Opera was in similar straits, even though they basically wrote the test -- they were just putting the finishing touches on Opera 8.0, which came out barely a week later. Of course, that means they started a new development cycle just afterward, and in-house versions of Opera are reportedly very close to passing.
Opera 9 and Firefox 2.0 are likely to pass Acid2 along with Safari 2.0.2, iCab 3 (if they ever release a final version), and Konqueror 4.0 (or does 3.5 include the fixes?) IE7 almost certainly will not. IE8? Who knows?
No matter WHAT. You plain can't see any flash with adblock on, no matter that the flash content is not blocked. Torturous for people buried in flash constructions...
rhY
I hold very few opinions. I hold information based on observation and fact. If you wish to disagree, please use facts.
Well then, you had better not use anything by Google, as everything is in beta. ;)
Not everyone has bittorrent installed
No, they don't, but if they released it for the first 24hours to BitTorrent only then the mirrors would have time to catch up and the worst of the download rush would be done.
Randomly refuses to respond to keyboard input (Can be worked around by Hiding and Unhiding Firefox)
Randomly refuses to respond to mouse scroll events.
Sometimes will refuse to respond to being clicked on until you click on the Dock icon first.
I'm going back to the previous version.
Mmmm.. Donuts
http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/
Awesome. I've been waiting for a while now for this to be finalized. I hate beta-testing or QA'ing software and not getting paid for it.
Yeah, everyone else just pays to beta test Windows...
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Have they fixed the memory leak yet? This is the biggest thing that's turned me off to FireFox. I reboot my computer about once every two months and in that time FireFox stays open. After a while I noticed FireFox is not properly releasing the memory it uses. 400MB of RAM was used above normal and FireFox was only claiming 120MB of it; closing down FireFox released all 400MBs of RAM. This is a normal thing and IMHO is not acceptible. FireFox's FAQ lists some 3rd party utility that keeps track of windows and tabs and restores them when the program is started up again. Another forum member suggested reducing the allowable cache size; this hasn't worked either.
I was hoping this bug that's been around for a long time would have been resolved earlier on. I don't have a lot of motivation to try out this new version to see if it's been resolved.
- An uglier, less-functional prefrences screen which hides more options at a time /looks/ a lot like something being left uninitialized or simply an offbyone error. Seriously, what is wrong that you havent fixed this by now?
- New, non-standard "flat" look for the menus (presumably trying to emulate MS-office in windows XP)
- Extension interface broken once again, so no 1.5 support for some extensions
- new "Hey look, we're pretending to be IE!"-style error pages (less-intrusive than error popups, I'm mixed on this one.)
- Some of the more-important functions of tabbrowser extensions seem to be included, but I'm not going to bother to disable tbe to find out if it's "good enough"
- http://www.yzzerdd.com/, http://www.snopes.com/ no longer seem to succeed at opening popups (Yes I'm against ad blocking, No I'm not against blocking browser-hijacking.)
- Still seems to have whatever bug makes it sometimes simply "stop responding to all links", but now seems to recover from it after a long delay, rather than requiring browser restart.
- No obvious improvements to the bookmarks panel
- The incredibly stupid favorite-icon bug is still there. I dont know what idiocy causes this, but it certainly
So, verdict for the moment: Less fun to look at, more good.
-- 'The' Lord and Master Bitman On High, Master Of All
IE7 is also not slated to pass at RTM, although the developers claim it will soon afterwards.
Acid2 is overrated, in any case. If you actually read the documentation on Acid2, it's a list of wants from web designers. A good target, but compared with security an usability is not on the top of the list for needs in the browsers of the future.
The road to tyranny has always been paved with claims of necessity.
Please reply to this comment if you are experiencing the CPU and memory hogging bug in Firefox 1.5. On my test computers, it is much worse than ever before.
I always dread upgrading FF. Half my extensions always break. Can't FF standardize on some kind of extension format that is forward compatible? Even IE doesn't break when upgrading.
"The following components are not compatible with the new version of Firefox you have just installed:"
FirecastFox 0.5.8
Google Toolbar for Firefox 1.0.20051012
Tab Clicking Options 0.4.1
ieview 1.2.2
Super DragAndGo 0.2.4
Tabbrowser Preferences 1.1.1
Noia 2.0 (eXtreme) 2.82
Fasterfox 0.7.8
User Agent Switcher 0.6.1
They have been disabled until compatible versions are installed.
To Firefox's credit, the only ones that were still broken after updating them all were Super DragAndGo, Tabbrowser preferences, and User Agent Switcher. Uggh.
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640YB ought to be enough for anybody.
A quick Google of svg clipart produces the Open ClipArt Library.
Your CPU is not doing anything else, at least do something.
Mac Mini with 512 MB RAM running 10.4.3 and it runs just about perfectly -- nice and fast. I do find the text selection does not work properly on occasion, ie. selecting and dragging the text oftens occurs in the wrong direction. On the plus side, Citrix works fine while it does not work for me in Safari. I like the ability to re-order tabs and the tab behavior controls are much more comprehensive then Safari, but I will miss the Flashblock plugin as it does not work (yet) with 1.5 or later (any release candidate).
I found Firefox 1.3 sluggish but 1.5 is swift, so I am switching to Firefox from Safari for now.
The release notes at http://www.squarefree.com/burningedge/releases/1.5 -comprehensive.html say that bug "131456 - Memory use does not go down after closing tabs" has been fixed.
/ libc.html as an example (try loading and closing it into a multiple tabs a few times and look at your virtual memory utilization or the about:cache built-in page) he was berated by a developer for reporting a problem with a website and not the memory leak the website triggers!
However if you read the bug text you can see that this years old bug has been closed only because, in the eyes of one developer, perpetually increasing memory usage is only a symptom of a memory leak, not the cause. Presumably users should only report problems for which fixes already exist.
Developers explain that the cause of the problem is actually due to several underlying hard bugs, so a "meta bug" like this one should not be open. Separate bugs should be filed instead on all of the undisclosed problems.
Users were also haranged over and over into providing specific test cases for the general problem. Amusingly, when one user suggested using http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_mono
Here take a look at this svg demo.
The comparison to IE aside (naughty you!), yes, I would like to see a 64 bit version for Windows. Perhaps 64 bittiness would be a nice 2.0 feature?
After spending money advertising Firefox to gain brand recognition, why does the Firefox 1.5 final version still have "Deer Park" labelling all over it? Giving the development version a code name is fine, but users should not have visibility of this.
As an analogy, imagine demonstrating Linux to your CIO and the first thing he sees is "Now booting Zonked Quokka"...