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Intel Yonah Performance Preview

illusoryphoenix writes "Anandtech has an interesting preview of the successor to Dothan (Pentium M's second generation), Yonah, with tests run on an engineering sample. It seems like latest Pentium M is still lagging in the floating point area, but has gained some ground overall. It's also interesting to note their comparisons to the Pentium D/Netburst based dual core."

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  1. Not impressed. by Dr.+Spork · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Wow, a 65nm chip consumes slightly less power and performs slightly worse compared to AMD's bottom-of-the-line 90nm X2. Who's amazed? Aren't we just applauding because we see Intel as the big retarded kid who's just managed to tie his own shoes? What I'm trying to say is that this is no big accomplishment. If AMD's 65nm chips were turning out these sorts of performance numbers, we'd all scream about how this is a huge letdown, a step backwards, is this finally the end of AMD, etc.. So let's keep some perspective.

  2. Front Side Bus speed? by MLopat · · Score: 2, Interesting

    One thing that's always put me off of the Pentium M's has been the 533MHz Front Side Bus speed when the P4 FSB's are at 800MHz and some extreme editions at 1066MHz. Does anyone know what the FSB speed is off this chip? -- its not mentioned anywhere in TFA.

  3. Not so great? by taskforce · · Score: 4, Interesting
    While the rhetoric in the article is pretty positive, if you actually read what they're saying and not how they're saying it, it's not that great.

    It consumes less than a 3800 X2? Isn't the fact that a laptop chip is even being *compared* to a dual core desktop chip in terms of power consumption quite worrying? And for that same "little big less power" they're getting a "little bit less speed"? I thought this was all about performance per Watt?

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  4. Re:This is a laptop chip? by Hard_Rock_2 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The dothan caps at 27 wats, the yonah goes from approx 25-49 under max load(depending on model, there is an Extreme gamer chip version so that might explain the rather high second number), but it will most definetly not use 45 when not plugged in and probably go closer to the the min.

  5. Moore's law by digitaldc · · Score: 2, Interesting

    it costs Intel just as much to make a dual core Yonah, as it did for them to make a single core Dothan.

    Considering it is the same price for much improved technology, this proves Moore's law is correct?

    see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore's_law

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  6. Re:Why no on-die memory controller? by tomstdenis · · Score: 2, Interesting

    that's what we call "vendor lockin" ... Intel will do anything in their power to make it expensive to move to a competitor. In the desktop scene it doesn't matter because a mobo is like 100$. In the laptop scene it's quite a different story [unfortunately].

    I suspect you're right about their motives.

    Tom

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  7. check out its power savings vs Athlon64 X2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    ... The Yonah uses less power at full load than the Athlon64 X2 does at idle.

  8. Re:Is this the chip Apple is using? by WMD_88 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    "An" Dimwit? You lost me there.

    To actually reply, these wouldn't be faster than the G4 if the G4 had a decent bus speed. But it's stuck at 167MHz. Double that, and G4 performance would go up almost as much, I bet.

  9. OS X without 64 bits? by MikeCapone · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Okay, I'm not a Mac guy and haven't followed this closely, but isn't OS X a 64 bit OS? Yonah won't be 64 bits (unlike the A64)... So, what's the deal? Did Apple just "downgrade" OS X to 32 bits for the x86 architecture?

    1. Re:OS X without 64 bits? by fitten · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Probably not for the user. As was said, this is a *huge* deal for many existing applications, though. Most applications are written GUI/engine together in the same program (just one program). If you would like 64-bits on OSX, many/most applications will have to be rewritten to seperate the GUI from the rest of the program and then made, as was described, more into a client/server type model. I imagine lots of Mac application writers are pretty pissed about it.

  10. Does dual core make sense for laptops? by mnemotronic · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There are a lot of other factors to "system performance", like memory, video, and disk subsystem speed. How much of a gain will a dual core CPU buy if the system is waiting for a (relatively) slow disk? If you want to put in a 7200 rpm 2 1/2", or a pair of 'em (or here), well ok. But then power consumption and it's cousin heat go up. Bigger batteries, Ok. Now you've got weight. I guess it's all about trade-offs, and what do you really want.

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