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Skype 2.0 Adds Video

Golygydd Max writes "Skype is showing that there's life after the eBay purchase. Techworld reports that the company has just launched the beta of Skype 2.0, having added video to its telecommunication software. The company is already lagging behind the likes of AOL and MSN in offering this, but Skype must be hoping that the size of its user base will help it - its store is to start selling videocams almost immediately." The LA Times has a review from a 2.0 beta tester, if you're interested in a hands-on look.

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  1. Wow.. this is so like.. 1997 by cybrthng · · Score: 3, Informative

    CUSeeMe

    1. Re:Wow.. this is so like.. 1997 by i23098 · · Score: 2, Informative

      You're right. But try it today and remember how it was back then. The bandwith available today has nothing to do 28.8Kbps vs 2Mbps. Plus video compression algoritms are better today.

      Computer science is like fashion. Old stuff of yesterday with a little change is the big boom of today. The little change is what makes the big difference...

  2. Demand for the video phone? by aussie_a · · Score: 4, Informative

    The video phone has been around for some time now, although I don't know the price of it so that may have been responsible for it not being adopted, are video phones really wanted? They've never taken off for the normal phone, will they suddenly take off for VoIP?

    I can't see it myself. Plenty of programs have supported webcams, but in my experience most people don't use them, only a very small minority. So why is everyone clamouring to add this? Is it merely to say "look. We've got a new widget!"? Or is there truly demand for this, that I'm just ignorant of?

  3. Skype line quality by edxwelch · · Score: 5, Informative

    Skype doesn't work nearly as well as they claim it does. There is always a time lag effect. The person on the other end of the line only hears what you have said after a certain delay. The amount of time lag depends on what day you call.. there are good Skype days and bad Skype days. On good Skype days the time lag can be so small that you hardly notice and it's nearly as good as a normal telephone line (although still both people won't be able to talk at the same time). On bad Skype days it's nearly impossible to have a conversation - better off just hanging up and trying on a different day. Bad Skype days usually happen when the internet is going very slow.

    1. Re:Skype line quality by tsa · · Score: 3, Informative

      I never had a bad Skype day. In my experience the quality depends mostly on the equipment used and how far the microphone is placed from the speakers. I must say I only skype with people that also use a computer though, so no telephone.

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  4. 512 kBit/s bandwith? by raudi · · Score: 3, Informative

    On the german newsticker http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/66829 it was stated that a "ADSL-Line with 512 kBit/s" is needed. everybody is wondering if they mean a ADSL with 512kBit/s downstream or if they realy need a bandwith of 512kBit/s. any clues? any official information on what bandwith is needed? anybody already tested it? cheers raudi

  5. Re:How does it perform on Linux? by tsetem · · Score: 4, Informative

    It works ok, but has some oddities:

    1) Only uses OSS, not Alsa. So it's not always happy sharing the sound device. (You can use OSS emulation, but still, not quite that happy)
    2) Occaisionally forgets my configuration and won't let me log in. I've seen posts, that say the solution is to whack your .skype config directory. Kind of annoying, but once I do that, it's happy and lets me reconnect.

    I'd love to see Skype 2.0 working under Linux, but even more importantly, I'd love to see an Alsa version and see if my experience is better.

    My biggest gripe is that I use it to talk to my brother when gaming (instead of Teamspeak). For the whole once a week we game, it's fine. But under Linux, I can't run my game & talk on Skype. So I've got to boot into Windows to game.

    But if you want to use skype to only talk, and not game, it's certainly fine for that.

  6. Re:I'll wait for SIP by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yes it does. SIP is just a session protocol, you can send anything over it.

    Asterisk also supports video over SIP and has done for years. There just aren't many phones about that do it (I think cisco do one).

  7. Re:Mac (and Linux) users by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 4, Informative

    Skype 2.0 is not currently available for mac and linux.

    Since the version 1 skype never came out of beta for linux it's debatable whether there will *ever* be a linux version.

    Anyway it's hardly the first cross platform video communication program - there are literally hundreds of the damned things.

  8. Most important... by b0bby · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've been waiting for this, simply because I haven't found a good way for two people behind NAT to do video chat without some subscription fee. The NAT traversal in Skype seems to me to be the kicker, because it lets you connect easily without forwarding ports. Am I just an idiot, and there are other video chat programs that do this for free between say, XP & 2000 machines?

  9. "Skype Out" price gouging by Bombula · · Score: 5, Informative
    Skype is a godsend for those of us living in developing countries, since Skype Out enables users to call regular telephones. The rates are dependent on the destination of the call, not the origin - an interesting (and logical) twist on normal telecom rates thanks to internet telephony. Now the rates aren't bad if you're calling a western country - less than 2 cents a minute to call the states, for example - but the rates are still brutal when calling non-western countries. For example, I am living in the Middle East and calling Dubai (which is right next door) costs 22 cents a minute, about 15 times more than calling the states. And the UAE is essentially a fully developed country. I shudder to think what it would cost to call Nigeria or Bangladesh.

    This is a shame, in my opinion, because it quashes the internet's promise to break the stranglehold that the regular/government telecoms have over citizens. The ISPs in some countries in this region, for example, have skype's website blocked specifically to prevent people from paying the normal $2.50+/minute rates to call Europe or the states.

    If technology is going to fulfill its promise to lift the burden off of those struggling in developing countries, companies like Skype would do well to do a better job of leveling the playing field - price differentials of a factor of 15 just seem downright unfair.

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  10. Whilst I welcome the news... by fussili · · Score: 4, Informative

    Skype is going to have to be pretty insanely phenomenal to come close to iChat AV.

    iChat's Audio Conferencing lags behind Skype but its Video Conferencing (4 way no less) is just crazily good. Apple built iChat from the ground up using the powerful Quicktime 7 implementation in 10.4 and it shows.

    I'd used plenty of Video Chat products but iChat was the first time I got the feeling that the technology had reached "Batman" standards.

    (Oh sure Batman, it takes you a day to decrypt some stupid riddle, you use a massive magnifying glass to spot a buoy on a bit photograph of the ocean and your computer is a selection of flashing lights without a graphical or even command line interface but perfect quality video conferencing? Piece of cake!)

  11. BugMeNot by TheoMurpse · · Score: 2, Informative

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    pwd: vapidcity

  12. Re:How does it perform on Linux? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I use skype to talk to people while I play nwn (in linux). The solution is to enable the alsa software mixer.

  13. Re:I'll wait for SIP by beasstman · · Score: 2, Informative

    There are a large number of SIP endpoints that support Video (as an earlier poster said, SIP, is simply an open, IETF standard to set up the session for media)

    Checkout eyeball.com or counterpath.com -- both make (commercially) SIP soft devices that support video.