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PCWorld Dubs Firefox Best Product of 2005

Peaceful_Patriot writes "PCWorld's list of the 'Best Products of 2005' is out and Firefox tops the list. Also notables are GMail at number 2, Apple OS X, Tiger at number 3, Skype ranks in at 8 and Ubuntu at 26!" From their Firefox article: "Are you sick and tired of Internet Explorer? Have you grown weary of the constant vulnerabilities and patches? Do you scratch your head at sudden program lockups and crashes? Are you dismayed that Microsoft hasn't lifted a finger to improve or enhance IE since it buried Netscape's Navigator browser at the dawn of the century? Yeah, me too."

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  1. Wow, Dell! by matr0x_x · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm very surprised to sell Dell listed so many times. I mean, Firefox, Apple, Palm and a lot of the other top 10 were very predictable, but I'd never have guessed Dell. Poor Microsoft didn't even crack the top 100...

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  2. PC World Product of the year 1995... by curmi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...was OS/2. So don't get too cocky. :-)

    1. Re:PC World Product of the year 1995... by G27+Radio · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeah, but it was actually a pretty good product.

  3. Old News by Saganaga · · Score: 4, Insightful
    From page 1 of the article:
    From the July 2005 issue of PC World magazine
    I thought it seemed funny that the review of Gmail said "check out Gmail the moment it launches", and that the Firefox review was from December 2004!
  4. Stuff that mattered. by teslatug · · Score: 4, Informative

    This was published in July. Is the story a dupe?

  5. Re:IE Really hasn't improved by DrEldarion · · Score: 4, Informative

    Try alt+d in IE for highlighting the address bar. Same key combo works in firefox as well.

  6. It certainly is by quokkapox · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If you're like me, and you have installed the SessionSaver extension, you will find that Firefox 1.5 is extremely stable on Windows XP, and you now have 50-odd tabs of pages you will read "someday soon, when I'm not on the net" saved up in other windows.

    I hope I am not the only victim of this scourge.

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  7. Re:iPod at 78 and Rio at 13 and no Nano? by jonfelder · · Score: 5, Informative

    It could be that this story is a dupe and this article was written in July before the Nano was released. Also, it must be my imagination that an Apple product is #3.

    Naaaa...must be PC bias.

  8. Dupe by Doomstalk · · Score: 4, Informative

    Not only is this article from June, but it's been reported on before.

  9. Re:firefox ? WTF by Punboy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Funny. For giggles I threw together a page with 100 150k images on a single page, posted it and the images to my webserver, and loaded it with firefox. it took ~30 seconds to load... all the images loaded fine... and, when I checked how much memory firefox was using, it was using ~40MB. This is Firefox 1.5 RC3 on Windows XP SP2.

    And um, I believe you mean opening anything with letters in the path which are not standard english characters, for instance something with an é in it. Admittedly yes, Firefox can't handle these well. But, if you knew about the HTTP standard, you would know these characters are not supposed to be allowed in URLs, and if they are in it they have to be specified using their ASCII character code (much like spaces are, with %20).

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  10. My work here is done by theblackdeer · · Score: 5, Funny

    Mozilla Team: "Well guys, we got our goal. PC World #1 spot. Close the web site down; we're satisfied with a job well done."

  11. it just works. by jasonhamilton · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You're right, on the surface it looks like any other gnome based distro.

    However, if you install it on a bunch of diff laptops, then compare it to another linux distro, you'll quickly find that what makes Ubuntu so good is that there is a lot of polish underneath.

    Widescreen is detected and configured. Most wifi cards, auto mounting of external drives, sound card. Even special keyboard keys function on most systems I've installed it on.

    I think Ubuntu is headed in the right direction. What makes Windows so great for noobs is that they install it and then they click to get on teh interweb. No mess, no fuss. One shouldn't have to spend all day trying to get the damn OS configured.

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  12. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss? by roman_mir · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Have you grown weary of the constant vulnerabilities and patches? Do you scratch your head at sudden program lockups and crashes? - be careful, it is possible to say the same thing about FF now. I see FF crash very often now. Patches and vulnerabilities? FF has them too. It does look like FF gets the fixes much faster than IE though.

  13. The list seems rather arbitrary by dtfinch · · Score: 3, Funny

    I could be wrong, but I think they just took a top 10 list and padded it with 90 sponsored links.

  14. No Competition = No Innovation by serutan · · Score: 4, Informative

    Are you dismayed that Microsoft hasn't lifted a finger to improve or enhance IE since it buried Netscape's Navigator browser at the dawn of the century?

    Some people would label that statement hollow cynicism. But in fact, a Microsoft manager told me straight out when IE 6 was about to be released that it wasn't really going to have any new features, because with Netscape pretty much dead there wasn't much point in developing IE anymore.

    Microsoft had already introduced XmlHttpRequest as an ActiveX object with IE5. They had all the pieces in place back then to promote the off-channel request technique and give it a nifty name like "AJAX." Web apps could have been 5 years ahead of where they are today, and MS would have had a huge head start instead of now scrambling to catch up with Google.

  15. You mean like opera does by default? by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 3, Informative
    It sure is handy even if it leads to me currently having an embarrising amount of tabs.

    It is a live saver however because the one thing that killed windows/IE for me years ago was that just as you found the site with the real free porn, eh I mean real usefull bit of info IE or windows or both crashed forcing you to start searching from the start again.

    Opera on Linux went through a bit of problems at first but the crashes didn't matter, just restart and continue were you left off.

    If only MS had at any point in its history realized that people are not upset about crashes, they are upset about lost work, they would not now be ..... eh top IT company with a strangle hold on the desktop, office software and internet browser market......

    Where was I going with this?

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  16. Definitely a deserving #1 by xot · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I think FF definitely deserves the #1 slot.A lot of people would argue that IE runs better or Opera is a better browser.Yes , Firefox crashes.Yes, it has bugs.Yes, it sometimes uses huge amounts of memory.BUT so does every other peice of software ever written.It just doesnt have to do with the firefox itself but also the user environment like the operating system,the kind of hardware,buggy systems themselves etc.These are not ALWAYS the reasons for crashes and slowdowns but most of the time they are.

    And I think what most people miss while comparing Firefox to Opera or IE is that Firefox is a much younger project than the others.Opera has been around for a number of years and has only just started to add better features.IE has always been around since there have been webbrowsers..So if you equate the amount of time these products have been in the market and the innovation/features they have been able to produce...Firefox wins hands down.Given a little time more, I dont think there will be any comparison to it.
    All this without considering the financial aspects of software development(IE & Opera are commericial FOR PROFIT projects).

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  17. Google's response by jesser · · Score: 3, Interesting
    From 7 things the Gmail Team is thankful for this year:
    * Winning the "PC World World Class Award" for being #2 on the list of The 100 Best Products of 2005. (We don't mind being #2, especially to Firefox. Plus, it gives us more to work for.)
    (The list appeared on the main page of mail.google.com on Thanksgiving 2005.)
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