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Miyamoto Hints At Second Revolution Secret

Gamespot reports that despite new information on the Revolution, there is still much we don't know about the console. Shigeru Miyamoto hinted at the DIEC that there was yet more to reveal about the Revolution controller. From the article: "At the Digital Interactive Entertainment Conference held in Kyoto, Japan, Shigeru Miyamoto, Nintendo's chief game designer and creator of the Mario and Legend of Zelda franchises, gave the keynote speech. He talked about the history of controllers for Nintendo's various consoles, from the pre-NES systems to current consoles like the GameCube. He ended his lecture with words toward the future, specifically the Revolution, stating that there's more to its controller than what's already known. 'The [Revolution's] controller still has another secret,' stated Miyamoto. 'But it's something that we'll reveal next year.'"

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  1. Hmm... by ten000hzlegend · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't believe Nintendo could bank too much on the admittedly unique control interface of the Revolution. Playing the XBox 360 in my local GAME, I walked away disappointed for 3 reasons... graphics weren't exactly a dream away from the latest games for the XBox, it seemed rushed out and the overall launch of the system, shortages and technical issues, just made me think... wait for the Revolution... still, I love my Amiga, I've been through 4 generations of consoles and the last game to completely turn my world on my head was Mario 64 nearly 10 years ago. The Revolution should do the same...

  2. With apologies to Dave Barry... by general_re · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...but the big secret, and the reason it's so cool, is that if you press the buttons in the right combination, a secret compartment opens to reveal an ounce of pure heroin. You heard it here first, and remember - it's on teh intarweb now, so it must be true.

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    1. Re:With apologies to Dave Barry... by KDR_11k · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm playing Gradius you insensitive clod!

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  3. Another Attachment? by LuckyPossum · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Like the analog stick nunchuck thing or maybe something built into the controller. I'd bet on an attachment, because the controller looks to small and simple to hide much.

    1. Re:Another Attachment? by Pxtl · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Think bigger. VR Glasses? Plug 'em into the controller, give them the same position tracking as the controller has. Instant Augmented Reality gaming. Of course, you'd still have to be in front (or near) to the TV (or wherever you've got the pad locators) and it depends on having the locators be micro-acurate.

      I'm betting the more likely case is the aforementioned storage. Considering that you could easily store NES games on a memory card, imagine holding a library of NES games in the Rev pad - the "turn sideways" functionality and the small size of NES games comes together really, really well there.

      Perhaps even a "NES box" accessory that is a substitute for the Rev? Just a receiver for the gamepad and a NES emulator chip, plugged into the TV?

      Or the damn thing vibrates. Yay.

  4. gabbo Gabbo GABBO! by Schezar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I love Miyamoto, but this is a dirty way to generate buzz. Simply announcing your new feature is one press release. Announcing that you're going to announce your new feature is two! Genius!

    Regardless of all that, however, I'm really looking forward to this. The Revolution is honestly the only console I'm even considering this time around. The xBox360 doesn't have a single game I care enough about to spend that much money. (Halo? Bah.. Counterstrike and Natural Selection are all I need.) As for the PS3, I think I'll opt for an uber cheap used PS2 and a pile of cheap used games.

    The so-called "next gen" consoles may be nice, but they don't seem worth the cost. The xbox's super HD whatever video output is useless on my non-HD television, and I don't plan to upgrade anytime soon. The Revolution is going to have innovative new features, and yet will still be SUBSTANTIALLY cheaper.

    The DS was far less powerful than the PSP, not to mention cheaper. Despite this, it completely dominated the market. Never underestimate Nintendo.

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    1. Re:gabbo Gabbo GABBO! by manJerk · · Score: 3, Interesting

      boy all this cloak and dagger stuff comming from nintendo has got my interest peaked. It just maybe a marketing ploy to generate a buzz, and for some reason its working on me. [must buy nintendo, must drink blood of non-believers]

      Personnally I am a PC gamer, and I have had time to play the 360 and such, and they are not too impressive. they have gfx that ive seen on PC for years(and at higher res), and FPS games should not be played with a stick, it just doesnt make any sence. Not to mention RTS!

      revolution seems to be getting the idea as to what a console if for, why mimic a PC when you can have a PC(and without the hot Power Supply issues). The revolution looks like it will "define" a console. (nintnedo has done it yet again)

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    2. Re:gabbo Gabbo GABBO! by KDR_11k · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Current as of June 19??? Hello, we have December now, there've been a few major releases since then. GTA:LCS, Nintendogs, Mario Kart DS, etc. The DS got a huge sales boost in all territories just from Nintendogs.

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  5. A list of suspects by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting
    • Shell for converting the remote-styled controller into a traditional controller
    • Multiple game-specific shells into which the controller can be inserted (gun, steering wheel, chainsaw)
    • Controller can carry games, like those 5-in-1 game kits that plug directly into the TV
    • Controller can be linked to the DS
    • Controller has some other sensor (microphone or something unlikely like a "squeeze" sensor or biometric sensor)
    • Force feedback through a spinning disc (not likely - big battery drain)
    • Heat/cooling feedback (not likely - big battery drain)
    • Vibration pack (not sure if this has already been confirmed)

    My money's on the microphone.

    1. Re:A list of suspects by MindStalker · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Controller can carry games, like those 5-in-1 game kits that plug directly into the TV.

      This is the one I'm betting on, with all personal info included as well.
      Remember you can download old games into the revolution. What if you can put them and your saved game status and other stuff with you. So you just take your controller with you to your friends house and you can share the game (obviously with some DRM on the non-free games so that game won't stay at your friends house). People will take these controller around with them instead of just leaving them at home, the controller itself will be a status symbol.

    2. Re:A list of suspects by Turken · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Controller can carry games, like those 5-in-1 game kits that plug directly into the TV

      Actually, I think you're really on to something here. Not so much that it is a X-in-one game kit, but that the controller also comes with memory built in standard. Your controller is your memory card. It keeps track of all your controller preferences such as any motion calibrations, etc so that it will always be easy to play on any Revolution console with any game and doesn't need a new motion input each time.

      Or, downloaded games can be saved to your controller. Carry the controller to a friends house, and they are available to play as soon as your friend's console finds your controller. Or treat memory the way that they did with the N64. One game that comes to mind was Tetris (forget which version) where they encouraged each player to have a memory pack in their controller so that they could "take home" the lines that they won when playing on someone else's console.

      Really, including a memory function so that your controller becomes your controller wouldn't be too surprising.

    3. Re:A list of suspects by Turken · · Score: 2, Interesting

      People will take these controller around with them instead of just leaving them at home, the controller itself will be a status symbol.

      I definitely wouldn't be surprised if this is both the feature and response to it that Nintendo is aiming for. What better way to market to the non-gmaing crowd than to make part of the console "cool" to carry around with you. Non gamers would see you carrying your controller around, become interested, and would not be scared away by its simple interface. Just like that Nintendo has made another sale.

      Speaking of carrying your gaming gear around with you... it makes me wonder what the demo kiosks will be like. Will they encourage people to take their controllers to walmart to get new demos and downloads? Will the kiosks be running crippled software so that you can't pull out your own controller, jump in the game, and beat down some unsuspecting kid (and/or his mom)?

      At any rate, I'm glad to know that there are more "secrets" to the revolution that haven't been revealed, because if we do have to wait almost another year for its release, the anticipation of the unknown will make that wait a little more bearable.

    4. Re:A list of suspects by Max+Nugget · · Score: 3, Funny

      Your controller is your memory card

      (Gets angry at impossible-to-beat final boss on the last level of the game)

      (throws controller at wall in fit of rage)

      (realize I'll have to start the entire game over again because the memory card had my saved game on it)

      (throws Revolution system at wall in fit of rage)

      (sighs in relief that the Revolution only cost $149)

      Yes, I think me and the Nintendo Revolution will get along just fine.

  6. I'm Going To Hell for this by robbway · · Score: 4, Funny

    The big secret is that it caters to the gamergrrl. It's ribbed for her pleasure.

  7. Strange announcement by Strokke · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It is strange timing on this announcement, shortly after the xbox 360 was released. With people having hands on experience with the revolution controller http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3143782 what could the secret possibly be? Perhaps there was an add-on that they didn't use because there were no games to showcase it? I'm also thinking that the somewhat mixed reactions have resulted in Nintendo revising the controller and realizing that there needed to be more to it. I do however agree on waiting till after the holiday season to release more details. They need all the momentum they can gather as they lead into their own systems release. Any groundbreaking press releases will be lost in the news among the reporters that Johnny has once again waited until Chrismas Eve before buying his presents.

  8. Lies! All lies. by Amiasian · · Score: 4, Funny

    According to this unbiased site the PSP is owning.

  9. It's obvious! by Kirsha · · Score: 5, Funny

    It is a crystal array and power cell attachment to turn the controller into a light saber.

    How can you be so blind? =)

  10. Wouldn't it be hilarious if... by Swimmin'+Pants · · Score: 5, Funny

    What if Nintendo's strategy was to make an announcement that they're hiding a Revolution feature that will change the gaming world, then go onto the intarweb, read peoples' speculation, pick the best ideas, and implement them?

    Seriously, they've announced features, without actually announcing what they are, about three times now since the Revolution was first announced.

  11. This is interesting... by Winckle · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'll buy it, since I'm a huge Nintendo fan. The casual gamer won't be so accomodating. Nintendo needs to build some hype around the system if they want to actually change the video game industry. Right now, even some hardcore Nintendo fans are skeptical. Nintendo - shooting ourselves in the foot since 1990...

    1. Re:This is interesting... by ArwynH · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Nintendo - shooting ourselves in the foot since 1990...

      Like they did with the DS right? 2 screens, the touch screen, wifi and the mic where all just pathetic gimics right? There are no good games for it, Nintendogs and it's ilk are just a fabrication of our colective imagination. It's also not outselling the PSP at all, the figures we have are just lies fabricated by Nintendo's marketing department.

      Do you honestly believe that?

      As a disclamer I will state that I am a Nintendo fan, but not an old one. I became one when I played some of the games on the GameCube (Monkey ball, SmashBro, Zelda). Out of the 3 consoles it is by far the most fun and that ultimatly is the most important aspect of any console. So here again I cannot agree with you that they are 'shooting themselves in the foot'.

      With the Revolution they are doing exactly what they did with the DS. They are pushing the boundry of what is possible in a console. None of the features are 'new' technology, they have all been done previously in some form or other. What Nintendo has/is doing is refining these technologies and integrating them into it's products then using them in a few games as a kind of 'proof of concept'. The shear potential for fun games that they are creating is causing a lot of people in the gaming industry's mouths to water.

      They also have a very good marketing campaign aimed towards the hardcore gamers. I mean look at the press they are generating by NOT telling us what is in the new controller. They have hung the proverbial carot out in front of us so to speak. Bastards.

      As for this new feature it's probobly something they have done before as an extension, but have refined and integrated this time round. Something like onboard memory to store save games/settings or maybe a microphone? How about a small screen? a touch screen maybe? Either way, this console is going to sell like hot-cakes and I will be pre-ordering mine on the day the pre-orders open.

      'shooting themselves in the foot.. - I really don't think so.

  12. The console wars have changed by pattokun · · Score: 3, Interesting
    When the DS was announced people thought Nintendo were insane. Two screens? What a stupid gimmick! I read an particularly scathing piece in Edge by Mr Biffo, who seemed to think the console would be a failure or Rise of the Robots proportions.

    A lot of the argument was based on the fact that the DS had graphical muscle roughly equivalent to the N64, while the PSP was more like a PS1.75 or something. All this kerfuffle took place before the touch screen was revealed.

    (On a side note, people who claim the DS is gimmicky with its touch and dual screens seem to be missing an obvious point: Nintendo must have originally decided to use touch-sensitive control on its new handheld. At some point in the development process it would have become clear that the hand being used to hold the stylus will cover up some part of the screen. A second, non-touch screen is the obvious solution.)

    Look where we are now: killer titles released regularly on DS, with the system outselling PSP worldwide. Despite its relative lack of power and absolute lack of built-in media convergence features, the DS has, for now, won the next-gen handheld war.

    And now we find ourselves in this situation: XBox 360 and PS3 have or will have graphical power far and above that of current generation consoles, the 360 can manage all your media, etc. And the Revolution will be "only" several times more powerful than the GameCube. Sound familiar? But, bearing in mind Nintendo's announcement that they will not be making public the exact specifications of the Revolution, remember what Nintendo President Satoru Iwata said:

    "Tech specs don't matter. The time when horsepower alone made an important difference is over, and from this time forward we must create unprecedented experiences."

    You know, I think he may just be on to something.

  13. I'd Guess... by Dr.+Eggman · · Score: 3, Funny

    1. It doubles as a Universal Remote with automatic setup.

    2. You can (easily) interchange the functions of the buttons. ie. A becomes B, ect.

    3. Interchangable faceplates

    4. Revolution's going fully 4D and all games with be constant, even when your not there. The controller will light up when your missing something good.

    I can see it now, your out on the town when your Revolution controller begins flashing the bat signal. You excuse yourself saying: "I must go, the Joker is at it again."

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  14. It's a pulse monitor... by Nenorin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'll betcha it's some sort of biofeedback, so that games can monitor a player's levels of agitation and excitement. Imagine: you have a nice little 'Survival Horror' game where your own heartbeat thumps out of the speakers; if you get too excited, the hellhounds will be able to hear you. Or, you know, something like that.

    OR...

    Maybe it will recognise a given player by their pre-recorded bio-profile - skin conductivity, etc - and tailor the gaming experience for them.

    How hard would it be to incorporate something along those likes? Not a vast technological hurdle, anyway. Folks are thinking feedback, feedback, feedback - but I'll bet my eye-teeth (they're fantastic for seeing what you're eating while otherwise blind!) that the big gimmick will be an additional dimension of control.

  15. Handheld market is totally different by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The PSP is a very different product from the DS. About the only thing they share is their insane size. For its tiny screen the DS sure is a big clunk compared to the gba.

    However the PSP also can display movies(if you don't mind that the lcd is not exactly super responsive), and do such things as play music.

    But more important the games are totally different. Lots of action racers for the PSP with exactly 1 puzzle game (in dutch stores) while the DS has mostly "cute" games with relative slow pace. Personally the moment Animal Crossing hits the stores here I will be a gadget whore with a PSP, video iPod and DS.

    Don't discount nintendo, right ehm but don't discount sony either. Nintendo did on the console market and paid for it big time when sony came from nowhere with the PS1 and stole Nintendo's thunder and then repeated it with the PS2. So far it is 2 - 0 and an undecided (PSP vs DS) in the Sony vs Nintendo competion with the outsider MS lurking in the shadows.

    As for the revolution. Well I am perhaps a bit too old but I realize that I am still using the same old interfaces for my gaming that I used 10+ yrs ago. Still find it sad that one of the best games I played, System Shock, had a whole bit in the readme.txt about virtual reality helmets being supported. Not that I ever actually ever seen one in real live.

    I seen control gloves, I seen special keyboards, voice control all being touted as being the next big thing and it has come to naught. There was even a special joystick that could be wielded like a sword.

    From Doom to Doom3 I still use the same exact key layout. Mouse+wasd+1-10 keys still hasn't been beat.

    Consoles is about games. More importantly it is about getting those "must have" titles that sell your console. Once your console is bought selling b-class titles is easier but getting people to cough up the initial console cost + game title that is the big challenge. Why do you think consoles are so often bundled?

    The 360 verdict so far is that sure it has the prettiest pictures of the consoles although compared to a PC (yeah a top of the line pc costing x times more but don't forget, the 360 will have to compete for a number of years unable to improve while pc's will be undergoing some mayor upgrades in the form of dual cores and 64 bit computing) but that the games are a severe case of meh.

    Personally my money is on the PS3, why? Because Nintendo tried the casual gamer with the gamecube and bombed. Yeah it was cheap, yeah it was a lot more "friendly" looking, yeah it had the "inovative" capabitly to hook up your gba for extra gameplay and yeah it didn't sell. So why are they again going for the same strategy And why do you think this time it will work?

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    1. Re:Handheld market is totally different by mrgreen4242 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      1) Calling the PSP vs DS 'undecided' is pretty hopeful, at best. Thus far the DS has outsold the PSP in hardware and software worldwide, and looks like it will continue to do so. You don't hear much about the PSP anymore, and games are coming out a trickle (not that the DS has had a torrent of games, mind). It's not over yet, but PSP is going to need a big surge of momentum pretty quick here.

      2) I don't buy that "Nintendo bombed with casual gamers with the GameCube". The GC wasn't aimed at casual gamers in anyway. Maybe at kids and/or new gamers, with the easy to use control layout and abundance of party games. I also don't know how you define "bombed", but to me, a company who sells (until recently) only 2 products, and makes more money than any of it's competitors over the lasts two years (they actually made more money than MS and Sony combined, of course MS lost money, but they made nearly twice what Sony Games did) didn't have any products that 'bombed'. See here for numbers.

      3) Will the Revolutions controller be the greatest thing ever? Maybe. Hopefully they will be smart and bundle a 'standard' controller cradle with every wand style controller sold. At the very least you can have a regular console controller that knows where you are pointing it. Give me NHL 2k7 where I can point where I want the puck to go when I shoot it and I'll call it the greatest thing ever.

      4) My money is on Nintendo making the most money of any game company this time around. Just like last time. Sony will probably move the most units, and MS will be lucky to break even. Nintendo will quietly sell millions of systems and games, all at a profit, and will continue to make boat loads of cash.

  16. Re:Wouldn't it be a hoot... by GuyWithAccount · · Score: 2, Interesting

    According to a recent IGN article where they talked to developers about the hardware specs, it looks like the price might actually be a lot less than $200:

    "Every developer was in agreement that Revolution should launch with a price tag of $149 or lower. Some speculated that based on the tech, a $99 price point would not be out of the question."

    This might be a little optimistic, but I don't think there's any way it will sell for more than $200. It looks like Nintendo has decided to put very little focus on the graphics in order to have an insanely low price comprared to Xbox 360 and PS3. I was at first disappointed when I heard that the Revolution wouldn't be much more powerful than this generation's consoles, but with such a low price, I could certainly see it becoming a huge success.

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