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HD DVD Player Delays in Japan
TheSync writes "EE Times is reporting that Toshiba is delaying introduction of HD DVD players in Japan because of the unavailability of Advanced Access Content System (AACS) DRM system licensing. The Register reports that Toshiba is still planning a late Q1 launch of HD DVD in the US." From the EET article: "Toshiba hoped to introduce HD DVD players by the end of 2005, ahead of Blu-ray Disc players, but decided in September to postpone the U.S. introduction until 2006. In July, IBM Corp., Intel Corp., Microsoft Corp., Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd., Sony Corp., Toshiba, Walt Disney Company and Warner Bro. Studio formed the AACS Licensing Administrator (AACS LA) to develop license AACS technology. AACS LA has completed its version 0.9 of the technology."
Lack of DRM? Impossible, this is 2005...
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How much of the delays in either format has to do with the actual demand for the format?
I've had HiDef for years -- not including just the monitors on my PCs. I've always been happy with upconverted video, and the variety of HD coming over cable is getting better every day. I'm in no rush to repurchase all the DVDs that I have in HD, especially when I'm happy taking an anamorphic DVD, upconverting it, and feeding my projector its native signal.
I'm likely one of their preferred targets, but I will definitely not be one of the first buyers -- probably the first time with new technology that I'll take a backseat at the release.
How long will AACS keep HD DVD secure? Two weeks? Three? Place your bets, people! Closest to the mark wins, oh, I don't know, you think of something.
When they delay HD-DVDs because they can't get licensing for their DR-MMMMM! Now that! Is! Irony!
Wait, I thought DRM was supposed to improve sales and market share by avioding those pesky pirates... If we're releasing whole lines of products much later because they don't support DRM, doesn't that defeat the purpose?
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With hollywood, this was a good move...
but then again, would hollywood win if all their movies were DRMed to the point where it breaks people's computers? Hell no. They wont have any customers! Thus, imho, bad move overall.
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Wow, this is a stupid error. They are blowing (or at least, reducing the impact of) one of their biggest advantages over Blu-Ray: that they were ready to go to market. All for one of the most useless features in the spec.
Come on, is there anybody who believes that DRM of DVDs was successful? What evidence is there that sales were increased due to DRM?
I have seen the future, and it is inconvenient.
"HD DVD Player Delays... IN JAPAN!"
Chec out these fantastic "benefits" of the AACS DRM...
* Support a superior viewing experience delivered by next generation media formats
* Enable greater flexibility to manage distribute, and play entertainment content on a wider range of devices
* Enable groundbreaking home entertainment choices and the ability to use content on PCs and a range of CE devices
* Work across a variety of formats and platforms
Too bad that having no DRM has more features. What a joke.
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I think that movie companies should make movies free. They'd collect money from showings on HBO/NBC/etc (some people are too non-tech to download movies), the theaters (some would argue that theaters are better than home viewings) and as usual, they'd make lots and lots of money on posters/merchandising/promotions. The more people who see (and like) a movie, the more powerful the merchandising/promotions profitability.
Don't fight people with DRM, think of how best to get their money!
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...a lawsuit?
see what DRM is doing? it's beginning to delay technology!
without DRM we'd probably have the next gen DVD formats by now since a huge chunk of development time toshiba and sony are just trying to get their DRM/encryption as perfect as possible so that it takes 3 weeks to crack it instead of 2.
After the Sony debacle, I'd bet they're a little more cautious about any auto-run software on the disks.
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I guess I have to get DVD-Jon something else for Christmas.
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Wow, with a good number of companies going forward with BlueRay, this delay might be makin them sweat. As for rebuying my already purchased DVDs, that won't happen. But I will start buying HiDef DVDs as long as the player plays my current ones and the price of the disc doesnt' jump in price any.
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..Toshiba is delaying introduction of HD DVD players in Japan because of the unavailability of Advanced Access Content System (AACS) DRM system licensing.
In July, IBM Corp., Intel Corp., Microsoft Corp., Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd., Sony Corp., Toshiba, Walt Disney Company and Warner Bro. Studio formed the AACS Licensing Administrator (AACS LA) to develop license AACS technology.
Oh, yeah. I'm sure they'll jump right on it and get those licensing terms worked out. What would the group members have to gain from delaying things?
The reason DRM even exists is to make the company more money. Now, it MIGHT make them more money, and it might not. But someone's trying to look good for a promotion for saying they tried.
"Well, I tried. But we just can't stop those darn pirates."
Translates into,
"Well, I tried. We annoyed the fuck out of a lot of customers, lost a LARGE amount of money through delays and retooling, made it popular to copy our movies because its really quite easy, AND made them incompatable with many DVD players."
And that's what most DRM is good for. Annoying the fuck out of the customers. Granted, some make it annoying, but you can bet after an 8GB download of a game or DVD I've wanted to experience, I'll not be giving up because of some pithy copy protection.
Job? I don't have time to get a job! Who will sit around and bitch about being broke and unemployed then?
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Blu-Ray also supposed to use AACS? My impression was that the formats were identical except for the physical media.
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Is there any kind of DVD or something that can help to calibrate the TV panel? I have an HDTV LCD panel for a few weeks not and I don't have a clue how to set it up properly.
1) That I can watch them anywhere, copy them to any format, and do both of those things based on Open standards, without contrived devices intended to prevent such things.
2) That they are available in a buyable, watchable format at the same time they are released anywhere else (i.e. DVD and theatrical release occurs at the same time).
Until both of those conditions are met, I will continue to download movies for free. Number one is mostly available from the current DVD format, and for that I applaud it, but it also has a number of problems (DeCSS and the DMCA, for example), and I fear that the next generation (HD-DVD or Blu-ray) will take a step backward on this issue. As for number two, I am confident that the studios will figure it out eventually, and tell the big cinema chains to go fuck themselves. I am not against cinemas, but I am most certainly against the monopoly they hold for the first few months of a movie's life. I don't download movies because I'm cheap; I download them because there is no other way to watch them in the comfort of my home until the DVD is released. I'm sure there is a wide range of people like me in this regard, that would spend money on DVDs given the opportunity. How this develops.... we'll wait and see, I suppose, but whichever format offers the best combination of these two features will be my favorite.
If we're releasing whole lines of products much later because they don't support DRM, doesn't that defeat the purpose?
... if you consider a three month delay in sales significant over the, hoped for, lifetime of the format. Obviously in this case, it's pretty much irrelevant since no one is clamouring for the units yet anyway. If we were talking software, everyone would be saying "right on" and giving them kudos for not rushing something to market and causing pain and suffering when they could have simply taken a bit more time and gotten it "right".
I have the T2 Extreme Edition DVD set which has a second DVD with a HD WMV version. It's 1440 by whatever (I don't remember the precise ratio) but done at only 7mbps. However it is pretty stunning. I'll actually watch the movie in my room on my workstation to see the HD rather than my nice theatre in the living room.
I bet it'll be a bit of a slow start since many studios are not going to do a good conversion job. Hell some will just upsample the DVD, they do that for HD movies on TV all the time (you can tell too). However as good HD transfers are done, I think you'll start to see intrest. I find that, when done right, HD is really eye catching.
ummm, both these formats are obsolete already, holographic discs will be out at the same time and start at 300gb of storage. They read write rates on holographic discs are way higher too. I laugh at both these formats, and in 2007 holographic disks will probably be the standard. If the PC world adopts it, the dvd world wont be able to fight it very much...
pfft.
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Castaway (with Tom Hanks on DVD has a THX-brand picture and sound calibration tool that I like.
The crash scene is fantastic in sight and sound.
The DVD is often sold for only $9.99.