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Slashback: Quinn, iBackups, Wikipedia

Slashback tonight brings some corrections, clarifications, and updates to previous Slashdot stories, including the exoneration of Peter Quinn, the debut of Honda's new ASIMO robot, Vonage customers now all have 911 access, Nathan Peterson pleads guilty to copyright infringement, an interesting follow up to the recent Wikipedia articles, the Citizen e ink clock makes its first real world debut, and a response for criticism of the $100 laptop - read on for details.

Peter Quinn exonerated. An anonymous reader writes "Groklaw is reporting that Peter Quinn, the man who terrified Microsoft by moving part of the Massachusetts government to ODF, has been exonerated of any alleged impropriety concerning his trips to tell others about Massachusetts' move to ODF."

Honda debuts new ASIMO robot. Tomo Hiratsuka writes "Honda's ASIMO robot has received his annual refit and now has the power to carry objects with a cart, serve drinks, and run with both feet off the ground at up to 10mph."

911 now available to Vonage users. Ben writes "Only a month after Vonage 911 Deadline Passed the VoIP phone service announced today that all of its customers now have access to 911 services."

Nathan Peterson pleads guilty to copyright infringement. Chris Bradshaw writes "iBackups' owner Nathan Peterson pled guilty to two counts of criminal copyright infringement for illegally copying and selling nearly $20 million worth of computer software. The FBI was first alerted to possible software piracy by the Software Information Industry Association (SIIA) back in 2003. iBackups was selling pirated copies of software over the internet claiming that they were "backup copies" to be used by software owners in case of system crashes."

Wikipedia still just as effective as normal encyclopedia. AxelBoldt writes "The Australian newspaper The Age reports that Nature has run a formal comparison of the science coverage of Wikipedia and Encyclopedia Britannica. From the article: 'The exercise revealed numerous errors in both encyclopedias, but among 42 entries tested, the difference in accuracy was not great: the average science entry in Wikipedia contained around four inaccuracies; Britannica, around three.'"

Citizen e ink clock makes its debut. Tim Jones writes "The flexible e ink clock that Citizen announced what seems like ages ago is finally making an appearance in the real world. It's apparently going to be displayed at a Tokyo exhibition this week."

$100 laptop not quite so ineffectual. segphault writes "Ars Technica posted a response to Intel chairman Craig Barret's criticism of MIT's $100 laptop. From the article: 'Despite Barret's criticism, interest in the $100 laptop remains as strong as ever, and lightweight, affordable technology continues to weave its way into the classroom with great results. Young students in Olathe, Kansas now read their textbooks on Palm handheld computers. According to survey statistics, 28 percent of American school districts offer handheld computers for student and teacher use. A study done at a high school in South Dakota in 2001 found that the the availability of school-provided handhelds actually improved student grades. Eric Johnson, educational sales director for Palm, says the public schools represent a US$300 million market. If handheld computers can do so well in the public school system, surely the $100 laptop can too.'"

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  1. Interesting encyclopedia comparison by Jugalator · · Score: 5, Interesting

    While I knew Britannica has inaccuracies, and while I know inaccuracies often remain for quite a while there due to their revision model, I didn't believe it would fare that well, and rather that it would have much less but staying for a longer time. 42 entries may be a small sample size though; I'd rather see a few hundreds in a larger test, and also from more than science.

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    1. Re:Interesting encyclopedia comparison by ral315 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, you have to remember that this was for Nature, so I can understand the bias toward science-related articles. I think where Wikipedia would probably beat out Britannica would be on technology-related articles...not just for recent developments, but because the format of Wikipedia plays to a tech crowd.

    2. Re:Interesting encyclopedia comparison by k98sven · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The list of surveyed entries. The list is obviously leaning heavily towards natural sciences.

      So it's hardly very well-rounded, which is probably good for Wikipedia here, since the natural science entries (In my experience) tend to hold a higher level of accuracy/quality than the humanities ones.

      It'd be more intersting to see a larger survey, and with more obscure topics. In my opinion, an encyclopedia should be judged by its weakest entries, not its strongest.

    3. Re:Interesting encyclopedia comparison by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Of course, you still have to be careful. A lot of the unfinished articles in Wikipedia are the types of things that Britannica wouldn't tell you about anyway. For example, who would have thought that David Weber of Honor Harrington fame was also responsible for developing the third editions of the famous Starfire board game? And while you were looking that up, who'd have thunk that Sun had done a promotional video called Starfire about the "Office of the Future" circa 2004? (That was an amusing film.)

      My point is that Wikipedia is not only going toe to toe with traditional Encyclopedias (sorry, I can't do the ae thing on Slashdot), it's actually surpassing them. Like the Internet was designed to do, Wikipedia is slowly sapping up the sum of human knowledge for all to learn. The process is fraught with difficulties, but it's otherwise a good process.

    4. Re:Interesting encyclopedia comparison by rgmoore · · Score: 3, Informative
      It'd be more intersting to see a larger survey, and with more obscure topics. In my opinion, an encyclopedia should be judged by its weakest entries, not its strongest.

      In which case Wikipedia should do much better than Britannica. After all, there are many obscure topics for which Wikipedia has an articles and Britannica doesn't. Any hard copy encyclopedia is going to get trounced by Wikipedia for articles on popular culture and recent events, for instance.

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  2. Edit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I wonder if the newspaper people then fixed the inaccuracies in the wikipedia articles, making it 0 to 3, which would be a clear win for wikipedia?

    1. Re:Edit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I wonder if the newspaper people then fixed the inaccuracies in the wikipedia articles, making it 0 to 3, which would be a clear win for wikipedia?

      I checked one article to see if that might be the case. In the article for "quark" the only recent edits are one that changed all occurrences of "hadron" to "hardon", and then one that changed "hardon" back to "hadron".

      Of course if the Encyclopedia Britannica had an article on quarks that mentioned "hardons" it would take years before a correction would make its way into print. So score this as a clear win for wikipedia.

  3. But what happens... by Cheapy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What happens when the power goes out for Vonage customers? I read the description, but didn't see anything about this.

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    1. Re:But what happens... by The+Warlock · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The same thing that happens when your power goes out and the only phone in your house is cordless: you lose 911 service unless you have a charged cellphone handy.

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    2. Re:But what happens... by Smidge204 · · Score: 4, Informative
      From Their website
      311 Dialing, 911 Dialing, and Vonage Service DO NOT function during an electrical power or broadband provider outage. While you cannot control a power outage that actually disrupts the broadband Internet service, one method Vonage has found is to use an Uninterruptible Power Supply (UPS)to continue to provide AC power to the cable/DSL modem, phone adapter and the cordless phone base station. A Uninterruptible Power Supply can be purchased at an electronics store near you.

      Vonage also offers the free option of having a Network Availability Number. Now you don't have to be inconvenienced if your Internet connection fails. Your calls will be automatically forwarded to the phone number of your choice in the event your Internet connection is disrupted or your telephone adapter is disconnected. To set up your Network Availability Number, log in to your web account, and click on the "Features" tab on your Dashboard.
      =Smidge=
    3. Re:But what happens... by Professor_UNIX · · Score: 2, Insightful
      The same thing that happens when your power goes out and the only phone in your house is cordless: you lose 911 service unless you have a charged cellphone handy.

      Except with a regular line I have the option of keeping an cheap corded phone around for emergencies and it'll be powered from the central office. That's a BIG advantage for me and a reason I will never go entirely to VOIP. There's simply no major advantages for me since I need to keep my phone line around for DSL anyway.

  4. 5 years vs 2 centuries by dubl-u · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The interesting part is that Wikipedia did so well so quickly. Wikipedia's only been around since 2001, but they wrote the first edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica in 1771. Britannica has had more than 200 years to get their process together, and their accuracy rates are still pretty close to Wikipedia's.

    1. Re:5 years vs 2 centuries by BigZaphod · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That is kind of interesting, but how different is the Britannica model from Wikipedia, anyway? I think they both fundamentally rely upon peer review and the "many eyes" approach. Wikipedia as the serious advantage of having a heck of a lot more eyes available with the power to fix what they see as broken. Sure, some aren't going to be subject experts, but then any given expert in any given field is always going to have personal biases and beliefs that don't quite mesh with actual facts, too, so I'm not sure there's a difference in the end. Wikipedia is a brute-force parallel approach while I would perhaps classify Britannica is a brute-force serial approach.

    2. Re:5 years vs 2 centuries by Wolfstar · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What you should be amazed at is that Wiki does more poorly than Brittanica.

      If an article has not substantially changed in facts or representation in a few decades, a new version of Brittanica is likely to use the same article, with a cursory once-over to ensure that there's no major errors still - and that I would bet would be more in the way of spelling and grammar rather than factual.

      Wiki, on the other hand, performs worse, and the articles are only four and a half years old at most.

      Copy errors in a document alone will, over time, introduce more errors than Brittanica is showing I would think, especially over a period of 235 years. The same cannot be said of Wiki.

      That being said though, had you told me five or six years ago that an open-contribution online encyclopedia could consist wholly of anything other than spam and garbage, I would've laughed myself silly at you. I'm amazed that Wiki performed as well as it did, but I'm almost more amazed at Brittanica's ability to keep the errors very low amongst almost two and a half centuries of compiled information.

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    3. Re:5 years vs 2 centuries by dubl-u · · Score: 2, Interesting

      My reading was that Brittanica has 2 centuries head start on developing a good process (ie. editing, review etc). If the process has had so much time to mature then you might expect the result to be of a higher quality[...]

      Yes, that's exactly my point.

      When you hear the anti-Wikipedia crowd rant, they suggest that the process of building the encyclopedia is the important thing, that an open effort could never come close. If Wikipedia has gotten this far with only a few years of process innovation, it's very reasonable to think that they're still on the low end of the improvement curve.

      Looking at Britannica's history, that's certainly plausible. I have a reproduction of the first edition of the EB, and the thing seems hopelessly crude compared with a modern version.

  5. Its not 10 mph for ASIMO by Game_Ender · · Score: 5, Informative

    Honda's ASIMO can now run at 6 kph not 10 mph. 6 kph is 3.73 miles per hour. This is doulbe the old 3 kph of ASIMO.

    1. Re:Its not 10 mph for ASIMO by StikyPad · · Score: 4, Funny

      Honda's ASIMO can now run at 6 kph.

      So what you're saying is, Asimo can now keep up with the elderly and infirm?

    2. Re:Its not 10 mph for ASIMO by shut_up_man · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's conversion errors like that one that sent the Mars Climate Orbiter into oblivion... damn imperial units.

    3. Re:Its not 10 mph for ASIMO by raoul666 · · Score: 2, Funny

      So what you're saying is, Asimo can now keep up with the elderly and infirm?

      To be fair, while that's a pretty sad running speed, it is good enough to keep up with an average person walking at a typical pace. That's a good start, in my book.

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    4. Re:Its not 10 mph for ASIMO by Lars+T. · · Score: 3, Funny

      They are called Stormtroopers.

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    5. Re:Its not 10 mph for ASIMO by JahToasted · · Score: 2, Funny
      I'm Sam Waterston, of the popular TV series "Law & Order". As a senior citizen, you're probably aware of the threat robots pose. Robots are everywhere, and they eat old people's medicine for fuel. Well, now there's a company that offers coverage against the unfortunate event of robot attack, with Old Glory Insurance. Old Glory will cover you with no health check-up or age consideration.

      You need to feel safe. And that's harder and harder to do nowadays, because robots may strike at any time.

      And when they grab you with those metal claws, you can't break free.. because they're made of metal, and robots are strong. Now, for only $4 a month, you can achieve peace of mind in a world full of grime and robots, with Old Glory Insurance. So, don't cower under your afghan any longer. Make a choice.

      WARNING: Persons denying the existence of Robots may be Robots themselves.

  6. Accuracy of Encyclopedias by Noksagt · · Score: 2, Insightful
    The article lacks important details.

    They looked at 42 articles. How were these chosen? Were they on the same topics for the two encyclopedias? Was this done double-blind?
    the difference in accuracy was not great: the average science entry in Wikipedia contained around four inaccuracies; Britannica, around three.
    About a 30% difference (running their numbers of 162 and 123), which is big. More importantly (from the article):
    Only eight serious errors, such as misinterpretations of important concepts, were detected in the pairs of articles reviewed, four from each encyclopedia.


    The article also doesn't comment if corrections were made to the Wiki and submitted to the editors of Brittanica....
  7. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    You've not seen anything like the mighty Quinn.

  8. Nathan Peterson and iBackups by King_TJ · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I wasn't even aware that this "iBackups" company existed until now. But it occurs to me that his defense; "This software is sold simply to serve as a backup copy.", is as old as the pirate bulletin board system. That used to be a VERY popular "disclaimer" on the "NPD" (non public-domain) boards.

    The thing is, I wonder if it held more water on a free BBS, where you simply couldn't be accused of selling the software?

    If "iBackups" was going to try something this shady, they should have at least tried to obscure what was being paid for. (EG. Pay our price of $X.XX for a copy of our guide to software installation and optimization, and take your pick of a free backup copy of one of the following commercial programs in our library.)

  9. Re:Ten mph? wow ... by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, I've got no idea where they got 10mph from.
    The article states 6km/h


    It seems they multiplied instead of dividing, when making km / mile conversion.

    6Km = 3.728 miles
    6Miles = 9.654 km.

    Nelson, your line :)

  10. Re:Britannica Inaccuracies by ral315 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I would be interested to know if any of the inaccuracies in Encyclopedia Britannica are actually things where we have discovered some new fact or phenomenon since the latest revision was printed. Do they count those?

    Even if it does, that shows the strength of Wikipedia. When a new discovery is released, it can take a few years for Britannica to take care of it. On Wikipedia, new discoveries are usually on the site within 24 hours- sometimes just minutes afterward.
  11. Encyclopedias and responsibility. by ron_ivi · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Wikipedia still just as effective as normal encyclopedia.

    I'd like to see a law stating that you get your money back or a free fixed edition if you buy an encyclopedia with an error.

    That should make the damn overcharging industry start taking the accuracy of their material seriously and stop throwing stones at community efforts. If Wikipedia's wrong - well, I got what I paid for - but if I fork out hundreds of dollars for something it should be held to some sort of standard.

    If not, what is it I'm paying for?

    1. Re:Encyclopedias and responsibility. by everphilski · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If not, what is it I'm paying for?

      No one *made* you purchase that encyclopedia. You saw it. You felt it was a good investment you purchased it. It all comes down to the same argument Pontious Pilate made to Christ - "What Is Truth"? Some things are concrete fact, yes. Some things are evolving events, others are ideas and not set in stone. The print edition you buy is the best stab at capturing the world as we knew it at time X. Encyclopedia are *never* an acceptable reference for a paper. They are a first order reference for general knowlege.

      -everphilski-

  12. iBackup by StikyPad · · Score: 2, Informative

    iBackup? iWish iDthoughtathat..

    Peterson has agreed to pay restitution in the amount of $5,402,448.

    Yeah that sucks, except..

    Documents submitted by the US Attorney state that Peterson made $5.6
    million selling pirated software with a total retail price of just under $20
    million.


    I triple checked my work, but I keep coming up with a $198 thousand dollar profit. That'll teach him.

  13. Not so fast ... by s20451 · · Score: 4, Informative

    There are an awful lot of Wikipedia articles (esp. articles on historical figures) which are heavily based on the 1911 edition of Britannica, an edition that is in the public domain. As an example, I found this one with hardly any effort.

    So the question of "which model is better" is not as simple as you make it seem.

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  14. * * Beatles-Beatles by ndansmith · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I propose an additional topic for Slashback tonight: * * Beatles-Beatles. I consider Slashback to be the most appropraite forum for this topic, and perhaps there is a chance that the editors actually read these comments.

    What I think many of us want to know can be stated simply: What in the world is going on with * * Beatles-Beatles? Here are some of the facts of concern:
    - * * Beatles-Beatles does post some nice, thought-provoking articles.
    - * * Beatles-Beatles posts often come in clumps of two or more, with three straight (two on the front page) on December 11th.
    - The vast majority of his submissions are posted by ScuttleMonkey.
    - Rather than posting the original article summary (if there even is one), ScuttleMonkey uses the "* * Beatles-Beatles tells us . . ." formula to introduce his own summary of the article.
    - * * Beatles-Beatles links to a number of sites, mostly the George Harrison one, which seem "shady" to put it lightly (that is they have a bare-bones amount of content and a lot of links, news feeds, and popups).
    - * * Beatles-Beatles is utilizing all these Slashdot posts to increase his Google page rank (Googling for George Harrison puts him result number 5 on the second page).
    - Despite a growing chorus of complaint by loyal Slashdot readers, we have had absolutely no communication (that I am aware of) from the editors on this issue.

    I (and some others, I think) would like to use the Slashback forum to get some answers from any editor. This situation stinks of unethical behavior (or just plain ineptitude on the part of the editors,) and it makes me question the integrity and professionalism of the Slashdot system. If there is no response, I think I will take my concerns directly to CmdrTaco (malda@slashdot.org) through email, and from there (assuming the issue is not addressed) I will have to contact OSTG (editors@OSTG.com). I encourage anyone else who shares my concern to do the same. This is all motivated by the fact that I love Slashdot. I hate to a wonderful community-driven site corrupted by such an influence.

    P.S. If the * * Beatles-Beatles thing is just leading up to the best April Fool's post of all time, I am cool with that.

    1. Re:* * Beatles-Beatles by Bogtha · · Score: 4, Informative

      Despite a growing chorus of complaint by loyal Slashdot readers, we have had absolutely no communication (that I am aware of) from the editors on this issue.

      Jamie responded.

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    2. Re:* * Beatles-Beatles by Hosiah · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Is it too late to suspect that Beatles-Beatles is a script running on Scuttle-Monkey's home server?

      I was trying my own hand at a hand-rolled newsfeed aggregator, once, with an eye towards including it in my blog as a sidebar newsalerter. This was extensive Bash, sed, awk, grep, and lynx + Tcl/Tk/Expect work (and a couple of parsing algorithms in C), and the results were quite interesting, but I never got it past beta (it really wasn't worth the time for me, I might pick it back up later). With the right AI, a news-anchorman isn't that much harder to imitate than a Rogerian psychiatrist - and I could add or remove RSS URLs from a simple list, and use frequency analysis plus a dictionary counter to determine "overreported" and "underreported" stories, and give it a preference for crawling the web looking for more stories containing keywords from the "underreported" category, while shunning the "overreported" stories to avoid dupes.

      I've never typed out the whole story on that damn thing before. Looking back, forget it. Nobody could possibly come up with such a contraption!

  15. Re:Another Wikipedia Announcement by chrispycreeme · · Score: 2, Funny

    Couldn't the student just claim that they wrote the Wikipedia entry too? Is it possible to prove them wrong?

  16. Wikipedia Vs. Britannica by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's not just a matter of accuracy, but of how exhaustive they are. Does Britannica have these articles?

    - $100 laptop
    - ASIMO
    - Vonage
    - OpenDocument

    I take every piece of information with a grain of salt. If I want to know something, I try to find a primary source. Just because something is called CNN, Britannica, or NYTimes doesn't mean you should trust their information blindly.

    Supposedly, Wikipedia is no good because it's not accountable. Oh, and Brittanica is? From their terms of use:

    Limitation of Liability: IN NO EVENT SHALL BRITANNICA, ITS DIRECTORS, OFFICERS, SHAREHOLDERS, PARENTS, SUBSIDIARIES, AFFILIATES, AGENTS AND LICENSORS, OR CONTENT PROVIDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY INDIRECT, SPECIAL, INCIDENTAL, PUNITIVE, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF OR RELATED TO THE USE, INABILITY TO USE, PERFORMANCE OR NONPERFORMANCE OF THE SERVICES, EVEN IF BRITANNICA WAS PREVIOUSLY ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES AND REGARDLESS OF WHETHER SUCH DAMAGES ARISE IN CONTRACT, TORT, UNDER STATUTE, IN EQUITY, AT LAW, OR OTHERWISE.

    Indemnification: To the fullest extent permitted by law, you agree to indemnify and hold Britannica, its directors, officers, shareholders, parents, subsidiaries, affiliates, agents, and licensors harmless from and against all losses, expenses, damages, and costs, including reasonable attorneys' fees, arising out of the use or unauthorized copying of the Services or any of their content, the violation of these Terms of Use or any applicable laws or regulations.

  17. edit this page by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Wikipedia much more effective than normal encyclopedia. AxelBoldt writes "The Australian newspaper The Age reports that Nature has run a formal comparison of the science coverage of Wikipedia and Encyclopedia Britannica. From the article: 'The exercise revealed numerous errors in all encyclopedias other than Wikipedia and among 42 entries tested, the difference in accuracy was phenomenal: the average science entry in Wikipedia contained no inaccuracies; Britannica, around three hundred.'"

    Wow! The wikipedia model does work!

  18. Re:Holy crap. by Guy+Harris · · Score: 3, Informative
    RUN with both feet OFF THE GROUND?

    Well, maybe not run, but, given that, at least from the pictures on the Honda site, ASIMO looks a bit like a kid with a backpack, perhaps they were thinking of a certain other robot who could certainly move rather fast with both feet off the ground, although, admittedly, that's not running....

    (In any case, what the page at the Honda site said was "Through proactive control of ASIMO's posture while both feet are off the ground, the running speed was doubled from the previous 3km/hour to 6km/hour.", so it's not as if both its feet are always off the ground when running; I guess they just fixed it so that it works better in the part of the step when one foot's pushed off the ground but the other one hasn't made contact with the ground yet.)

  19. Wikipedia vs Britannica: Raw errors vs error rate by Alsee · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The Wikipedia vs Britannica comparison appears to have been on the raw error number alone. A far more valid measure would be on the error rate, the ratio of errors per unit of content.

    Which raises the question, how did Wikipedia and Britannica compare on quantity of material on each subject? If Wikipedia articles are on average twice as long with twice the content, then a 4-to-3 raw errors would translate into a 2-to-3 in favor of Wikipedia. If Britannica articles are on average twice as long with twice the content, Wikipedia would fare far worse with an 8-to-3 rate.

    It would have been nice if they had asked the experts to rate the articles for overall content and quality as well.

    The story only reported three of the 42 subjects on which they did their analysis: Agent Orange, quarks and synchrotrons. Does anyone have a recent Britannica encyclopedia handy? And if so could they do a comparison of length and content on those three subjects and reply with their results?

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  20. Re:Wikipedia vs Britannica: Raw errors vs error ra by AxelBoldt · · Score: 2, Informative

    They only compared articles that were preselected to have about the same length. Obviously that introduces a bias, but it's not clear in whose favor. The full Nature article is here.

  21. I'm still skeptical of the $100 laptop by GWBasic · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I'm still skeptical of the $100 laptop. Granted, given that my sub $100 Zire was powerful enough for the 10 months that it worked, I have no doubt that a $100 laptop can be designed... What keeps me skeptical is listed below:
    1. Manufacturing semiconductors is HARD. Manufacturing millions of semiconductors is even HARDER. Where are the chips for all of these going to be made? I doubt AMD can handle the load without dropping their high-profit chips. If we are to see millions of these units, the fabs to make the chips would have to be built very soon, and would cost billions of dollars.
    2. How are these things going to get onto the internet? Granted, they will be fine machines without connectivity, but in order to reach the goal of free access to information, there will need to be a working communications infrastructure. This is not free.
    My prediction is that if the design of the laptop actually works, it will be used in a limited distribution before it becomes obsolete and replaced by some kind of an Intel/AMD/Microsoft/Mac/Linux system.
    1. Re:I'm still skeptical of the $100 laptop by An+Onerous+Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think we're both speculating about the economics of chip manufacturing. But it doesn't seem like a couple million chips is an impossibly large fraction of AMDs capacity, especially if this project is stretched out over five years or so. Also, it's unlikely that the chips being used are anything AMD isn't manufacturing in fairly large quantities anyways. A special order processor would be prohibitively expensive.

      As for the Internet, these things are supposed to come pre-equipped with wireless equipment, and software to form a mesh network between the units. This doesn't get them onto the Internet directly, but it means that the range of any central hub can be greatly extended. According to the faq, they're working on a separate project for Internet connectivity.

      The laptops are already AMD/Linux systems, so the last sentence of your post doesn't make sense to me.

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  22. Serious structural difficulties... by Errandboy+of+Doom · · Score: 4, Funny

    Despite a few areas of marginal success, there are still fundamental structural difficulties in Britannica as a project, that its founder (Colin "Jimbo" Macfarquhar) has yet to address.

    Now, don't get me wrong, Britannica is acceptable for satisfying incidental questions, perhaps a good tool for satisfying children's curiousity, but I wouldn't rely on it as a serious reference tool.

    Some say they prefer the tactile sensation of a book over our more traditional, electronic forms of learning. But I don't think Britannica can rely on such an obvious gimmick for too long.

    It's clear to anyone who thinks seriously about this issue that an encyclopedia which doesn't allow immediate revision of errors by anyone who finds them will never have the credibility of a wiki.

    Britannica's slow production schedule and restriction of edits to a tiny, select group of so-called 'experts' will always plague it with difficulties. I, for one, will have nothing to do with it, and hope they abandon this foolhardy experiment before people begin to hastily grant them an ounce of credibility.

    1. Re:Serious structural difficulties... by JasontheMason · · Score: 3, Funny
      Ah yes, children's curiosity! That's precisely the only use, right there. When I was younger (a little over a decade ago, when I hadn't lived a decade yet) I used to get up early Sunday mornings and hang out with Dad in his study. And what did I read? The Encyclopedia, of course! And my life was greatly enriched by leafing through whatever volume took my fancy and reading interesting looking articles - those 1992 edition World Books seemed such a treasure trove of information in a computerless household. Little did I know about the innacuracies. (No, a seven year old might not care that the population of Zimbabwe is actually higher than that, but it's the PRINCIPLE, by golly.)

      Now, however, it is becoming increasingly clear that children are the motivating force behind the continuing sales of Encyclopedia sets, as everyone knows that a younster's favorite activity is curling up on the couch and absorbing a wealth of mostly accurate knowledge from a book. This is not something that should be encouraged, if it gets out of hand it could be detrimental to the development of more authoritative and comprehensive sources of information. It really is all just a gimmick - maybe even a plot - just to keep us away from our beloved computer screens.

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  23. Australian schools could use the $100.00 laptops.. by marcushnk · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Although a 1st world country our education system is very third world in some area's.
    If you offered this to our schools and their parents I believe you would see a MASSIVE uptake in the devices.

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    "Consider how lucky you are that life has been good to you so far. Alternatively, if life hasn't been good to you so far
  24. Nature editorial asks experts to edit Wikipedia by AxelBoldt · · Score: 3, Informative

    This Nature editorial asks scientific experts to kick in: "Select a topic close to your work and look it up on Wikipedia. If the entry contains errors or important omissions, dive in and help fix them. It need not take too long. And imagine the pay-off: you could be one of the people who helped turn an apparently stupid idea into a free, high-quality global resource."

  25. Re:Schools can fend for themselves - They already by cloricus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Last time I checked proprietary software ran on OSS systems. My point is that when schools understand what OSS offers them as a development model this rubbishy system of contract coders doing their allocation systems and the like could easily be cleaned up. The advantages are there.

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  26. Nature Intervention Reality TV by SimHacker · · Score: 2, Funny

    "It would be like nature documentaries stepping in and stopping wolves from eating their prey."

    That sounds like it would make a great Reality Television program! Maybe they could get that Australian aligator chap who sticks his thumb up animals' bums to do it.

    -Don

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  27. Great. A flexible clock! by munpfazy · · Score: 2, Informative

    For years we've dreamed of doing away with those power-hungry and unpleasantly rigid clocks that line our walls.

    Remember when we used to throw our hands up in desperation and say, "if only there were some way to make a clock that's flexible, and one which doesn't consume a whole 1/4 watt, the world would be a better place."

    Now, thanks to the wonders of modern technology, the time has finally arrived.
    Seriously, folks, what gives? e-ink is awesome. A wall clock made with an e-ink display, on the other hand, is just silly.

    And, while I'm firing meaningless rants into the void, why do so many people seem surprised to learn that Britannica suffers from such inaccuracies? Anyone who has ever read an encyclopedia article in a field about which they know something ought to know better than to expect accuracy from an encyclopedia. They're great for getting a very brief intro to a subject one has never heard of before, and for picking up enough keywords to find more information, but only a lunatic would rely solely on an encyclopedia article for anything.

    Ah well, enough ranting.

  28. Asimo top speed by beefubermensch · · Score: 2, Informative
    Tomo Hiratsuka writes "Honda's ASIMO robot has received his annual refit and now has the power to carry objects with a cart, serve drinks, and run with both feet off the ground at up to 10mph."

    This video implies the top speed is 6 km/h, which is just under 4 mph...

    -Carl