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The Economist on Mitchell Baker

Sara Chan writes "The Economist has a story about a trapeze artist who, in her spare time, is the Chief Lizard Wrangler at a non-profit. You perhaps know her as Mitchell Baker, leader of Firefox." From the article: "Ms Baker gradually found herself the leader of this project. Perhaps this is because she is a somewhat unusual member of the Netscape diaspora. For a start, she is a woman in a community populated, as one (male) colleague puts it, by geeky males with 'spare time and no social life'. Ms Baker herself has never even written code. She studied Chinese at Berkeley, and then became a lawyer--her role at the old Netscape was in software licensing. On all technical matters, she defers to Brendan Eich, her chief geek."

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  1. More about her... by skochak · · Score: 5, Informative
    Trained as a lawyer, Baker coordinates business and policy issues and sits on the both Mozilla Foundation Board of Directors and the Mozilla Corporation Board of Directors. In 2005, Time magazine included her in the 2005 Time 100, the magazine's annual list of the 100 most influential people in the world.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitchell_Baker

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  2. Amazingly socially unsophisticated. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is not a troll. And, I agree it is unfortunate. However, I saw Mitchell Baker being interviewed by Charlie Rose. She was amazingly socially unsophisticated. She said she had no technical knowledge, but is a lawyer. She gave the impression that she needs to be replaced by someone more capable.

    She gave such a poor account of herself that Charlie Rose was visibly embarrassed. That's the only time I've seen Charlie Rose embarrassed in the many years I've watched his interviews.

    Don't think you are being loyal to Mozilla by supporting someone who is so obviously not suited to be a leader.

    1. Re:Amazingly socially unsophisticated. by headkase · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think she's proven as a decision maker and project manager although.

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    2. Re:Amazingly socially unsophisticated. by ajnsue · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That is the best thing I have heard in a long time. A person who is not slick or commercial - becoming an effective leader of a succesful project. Makes you think that competency had something to do with her accomplishments rather that self-marketing.
      This and the sentencing of Ebbers and other CEO's makes me think that maybe the Earth is slowly being returned to its correct ethical axis

  3. well... by know1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    even though she doesn't write any code, they figured having a woman telling the developers what to do would be the best way to get them to obey as they were used to taking orders off their mothers/wives

    i kid, i kid, posting this from firefox, keep up the good work guys

  4. Re:GOD DAMN SHE'S UGLY by tobiasly · · Score: 3, Insightful

    @ AC and Erebus: please post pictures of your handsome selves for comparison.

  5. Re:GOD DAMN SHE'S UGLY by sammy+baby · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Jesus. How many male geeks are there that look like shit. Why you would even bother posting something as insidiously stupid as "God damn she's ugly" is beyond me. You give fire to people who say our industry is sexist. Give the feminazis amunition and they will use it. Moron.


    I'm not sure which is sadder: the troll saying that she's ugly, or the rebuke of the troll in which the word "feminazi" is used unironically.
  6. So many posts, so little thought by CodeShark · · Score: 3, Interesting
    About what the article actually points out. The fact is that the Firefox browser has been well guided, is a superb open source tool that forced M$ to begin investing in web-related innovation again.

    Other main fact is that I have not had one browser based attack succeed on my main computers (work or home), compared to the M$ fiascos that cause a significant amount of our company's IT budget to be consumed in "silly patchwork" fixes, and it doesn't matter to me what Ms. Baker looks like or how much code she has/hasn't written.

    What matters is that Firefox and Thunderbird have been well guided, to the extent that there needs to be enough profitibility in a related enterprise to defend both against corporate, copycat, or cracker type attacks.

    Sure, Mozilla is our pet lizard, but wouldn't you rather have a good chief lizard wrangler than nobody?

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  7. Re:Never written any code by theodicey · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Thanks for filing Mozilla bugs, but no need to rant. You've made a lot of wrong assumptions and assertions.

    David Baron is, in fact, writing enormous amounts of code. He is close to being finished with rewriting the entire reflow system of Gecko (= progressive page loading).

    Mozilla Foundation is no longer developing future versions of the (1.7) suite. A different team of developers has taken it over, and renamed it SeaMonkey. So complaining about their inability to fix a Suite-only problem is fairly pointless. If it's a problem with the Core (shared between Firefox and Suite) then reproduce it in firefox and let Mozilla know. Otherwise, get in touch with the Seamonkey developers by email or IRC or whatever, it's not hard.

    And if you have a problem with your bug being auto-resolved, just go ahead and reopen it again. The auto-resolver was supposed to clear up rotten bugs that weren't real or were fixed by other code changes, not actual replicable bugs.

  8. Friday is troll day! by mspohr · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Let's see... The Economist posts a complimentary article on a woman who is heading the Mozilla org saying nice things about what she has done to help revive competition in the browser world.

    So far we have...

    - she's ugly

    - she's socially inept

    - she's a lawyer

    - she has a bad hair cut

    - she's obviously "not a leader"

    - she's not a geek (this was posted as a bad thing)

    - she doesn't care about the code

    - she only cares about marketing

    - Mozilla never fixed my pet bug (several times).

    - the software crashes on me every day

    Back to your basements, little boys, or your mother will spank you.

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