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Google Launches Mobile Mail

lazy_hp writes "Google has launched mobile phone version of Gmail. The service automatically optimizes the interface for the phone you're using and also 'Lets you reply by call to people whose phone numbers are in your Gmail Contacts list'. Technewsworld has a story on this. From the article: 'Gmail is now a kind of hub for Google ... GoogleTalk and a range of personalized services are all tied in together through Gmail registration. The more registration data collected by Google, the more relevant search results and ads can potentially be.'"

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  1. Loved Ones by JonathanR · · Score: 2, Funny

    So you can then phone home to let your loved ones know what your coordinates really are, +/-10 metres.

  2. Ummmm... by Vivek+Jishtu · · Score: 5, Informative

    I tried it on my mobile but it is unable to open it. Try opening http://m.gmail.com/ in opera.
    XML parsing failed: mismatched tag (Line: 27, Character: 439)

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    1. Re:Ummmm... by moonbender · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Hah. That's what they get for serving XHTML+XML instead of just plain old HTML 4.01.

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    2. Re:Ummmm... by Vivek+Jishtu · · Score: 2, Informative

      I said Opera 'cause I thought they were using WML but I guess they are using XHTML. Even if you try it out in firefox you should get the same error :) Someone forgot to add a / in br.

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  3. Re:And better their services can be by lukewarmfusion · · Score: 3, Insightful

    GTalk needs some serious attention if they want it to be accepted by the public. But that makes me wonder... do they really want it to be accepted by the public? The voice chat feature is the best part of it for me; the quality is superb compared to other clients I've tried. Still, limiting it to Gmail users means that most people I know aren't eligible. And not having rich text, file transfers, and options for conversation logging are a good reason to find another client.

  4. Bah, no WAP by Urkki · · Score: 3, Funny

    If they had WAP support, then I'd be immediately interested... Oh well, maybe soon they'll be selling HTML-capable phones that are small enough for my pocket and I'll upgrade...

    1. Re:Bah, no WAP by dapendragon · · Score: 2, Informative

      Incorrect. Works with WAP on my Siemens SL55.

    2. Re:Bah, no WAP by wedding · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I carry the Audiovox Windows Mobile phone, and have for over a year. If you can't fit this phone in your pocket, you need to buy clothes in the adults section perhaps. Just tested the m.gmail this morning, and it works like a champ.

  5. Neat Article Info by putko · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "Analysts noted that like all Web-based services, Gmail has technically always been accessible from Web-ready mobile phones. But the Web version was often difficult to read on all but high-end mobile devices, with the browser window on smaller handhelds only displaying a part of the actual Web page."

    "'This is mobile e-mail for the rest of us, who have normal or tiny screens,' said Kelsey Group managing editor Greg Sterling."


    That's sounds really great for users -- that could be a truly decisive feature, for those who need email access on the road, but for some reason don't already own a blackberry.

    Also, is there anyway that MicroSoft can beat back the Google threat on the mobile front, based on the fact that they make the OS that many of these phones use?

    It seems that if there is a browser, Google can somehow deliver services to it. So the fact that Windows is on many of these phones won't mean much. I wouldn't put it past Gates or Ballmer to crippled the browser if they thought it would help though -- but that would really be cutting off their testicles to spite their penis. Or however that saying goes.

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    1. Re:Neat Article Info by JanneM · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's sounds really great for users -- that could be a truly decisive feature, for those who need email access on the road, but for some reason don't already own a blackberry.

      Or do not already have a real email account and client on their phone. I think you can't get a phone without it here anymore.

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  6. Re:And better their services can be by diersing · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Maybe Google's recent buy-in of AOL will facilitate some GTalk-AIM integration to consolidate chat services to better combat Yahoo and MSN. Course, I'd rather Google stay out of those wars and make a client that could communicate with all 3 natively, but that's me.

  7. They'd lock me out by Sime208 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I have (or had?) a Google Mail and Orkut account, which four days ago they closed down. God knows why, I've had the email account around a year, and the Orkut account around 3 months, but I've rarely used them. I've maybe sent 5 email from Gmail, and used Orkut for around 30 minutes more for curiosity than anything else.

    Anyway, tried to get logged in to Google and couldn't. I've absolutely no idea why they'd decide to bar my account. Emailed the address they gave, had an auto-response back and instructions to reply if that didn't help. Replied I did, and I'm still waiting.

    If this had been my primary mail account, I'd have been *pissed*.

    For all these services sound the business, I'm reminded now why I run my own IMAP server. Functionality may be basic, but I 'own' my emails and run SquirrelMail so I can get at them via the web if needs be... Ad-free.

    If the choice is between fewer features, but knowing my email is mine, I'll go with the first option any day.

    Just wonder *when* Google will get back to me...

    1. Re:They'd lock me out by Rxke · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Isn't it just because you didn't actually use those accounts for a long time, you got kicked off? IIRC Google 'recycles' dormant accounts... A lot of other free webmail providers do, so...

    2. Re:They'd lock me out by litecode · · Score: 2

      I want to know why people assume that ads are "bad." An ad that is relative to what I am searching, or what I am interested in makes it easy for me to keep up on things that "might" interest me. It's a way for those interesting things to find me, instead of vise versa. It's the crappy "win-this" flash ads that are the true scourage of the Internet.

    3. Re:They'd lock me out by Sime208 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sure, Google's ads are tidier than anyone elses, and they're neatly presented. It's not so much the ads I mind as the decrease in screen space. I use many PC's that are fixed to 800x600 and I like all the room I can to read mails and navigate folders. Ad's just get in the way of that.

    4. Re:They'd lock me out by Sime208 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Sorry, to clarify, I shouldn't have said 'closed down' in my original post. They'd disabled my account. The message I get when I try to sign in is "Sorry, your account has been disabled. If this should not have happened, please contact our user support team at accounts-support@google.com."

  8. Old news... by rbb · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Slashdot: News for Nerds, Stuff that Happened About 4 Days Ago?

    On a sidenote: instead of the folks at Google adding new functionality of doubtful usefulness (autoresponders are the root of all evil in the corporate environment, right up there with running MS Exchange servers), can't they please finally let me delete or archive more than 100 messages at a time?

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    1. Re:Old news... by garcia · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually, because of how I use GMail, I'd prefer that they add an option to "Mark Messages as Read" before I label/Archive them. That way I don't have to visit GMail daily in order to make sure I don't have to thumb through multiple "All Mail" to manually mark them as read.

      On a side note, I'm thrilled with the HTML version as it works *VERY WELL* on my mobile device and it's quite fast! I take back what I said last week about Google coming out w/lame stuff like Web Clips and GMusic ;)

    2. Re:Old news... by mikeage · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Set to 100.

      If I click on a label, I get 100 messages. If I type label: into the search box, I get 20 (and can't seem to change that)

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  9. For non-US resident by Alarash · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Hi,

    I just tried this from France (wireless provider: Orange). My phone is listed as working but my wireless provider is not listed, obviously, since it's supposed to work only in the US. I wonder why it would work only in the US and not in the rest of the world. Any idea?

  10. XHTML not a bad choice for mobile by Nurgled · · Score: 4, Informative

    In this case it was probably a sensible choice. There are phones out there that only support the XHTML mobile profile or XHTML basic, and while they'll attempt to render normal XHTML documents they don't have a "tag-soup" parser available to try to render normal HTML. All of the latest phones have browsers capable of rendering normal pages (Opera with its small screen rendering, for example) but I think Google is also catering to the previous generation where XHTML support was just hacked on top of the WML (WAP markup) support using the existing XML parser.

  11. And the product is not a BETA by Vivek+Jishtu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If you are somehow able to log in, you will see that there is no beta tag anywhere. One of the first products from google that is not a beta or they forgot to add the tagline.

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  12. Nokia 6680 + Opera = Normal Gmail by bmsleight · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I been using my gmail account from my phone for a while. Its the normal gmail.com not the m.gmail.com version. It is just like using a non-java browser works very well and uses very little data ~1M per month.

  13. Review with Screenshots by davemabe · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here's a review with screenshots as seen on a BlackBerry 7100g.

  14. Re:And better their services can be by wootest · · Score: 5, Informative

    Google just released the specifications to their audio extensions ("Jingle"), and GAIM is working on integrating it, which means that it's not impossible that it'll find its way into the "plain Jabber" features, at which point no doubt other Jabber clients will start to implement it as well. That sounds likely, at least, and it'll mean you won't have to use Google Talk unless you want to.

    There's no doubt in my mind that Google Talk is to get dramatically more open and more features. I think what they've done so far is dip their toes in the water, and with the release of the Jingle specs and source code (where copyright goes back to 2004 - I don't think they're likely to drop this) they're really saying "OK, let's do this" and getting some very nice leverage from the community in the process.

  15. Gmail mobile is late., by csshyamsundar · · Score: 3, Informative
    Actually long before the launch of Gmail mobile., there is a service called Gmail Wireless

    They have a lite version where you can access Gmail without ads.

    The wap version where you can access Gmail via any WAP enabled device.

    Im comfortable with these services., as a matter of fact Gmail lite from gmailwireless.com loads 100% faster than original GMail.com., Best of all you dont have any Crazy Ajax stuff that sucks my FireFox's Memory.

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    1. Re:Gmail mobile is late., by generic-man · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ...and to get Gmail Wireless, all you have to do is provide your Gmail username and password to a service that is "not affiliated with or endorsed by google." Considering how many services are/will be tied into your Google Account, I'd consider that a pretty big leap of faith.

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  16. Works great in the UK - but... by scrm · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I've been using GMail mobile (in the UK) since it was announced Friday. It works very well indeed, and the interface is probably the best I've seen - much simpler than many mobile Java email clients.


    One gripe on my Nokia 6230 is that I need to enter my login details at each step - to access the inbox, then to reply, etc. This doesn't happen with my friend that uses O2 (I'm on Vodafone), and I've checked all the cookie and security settings on my phone. I raised this issue with Google and got an immediate response - the phone and network are currently unsupported by Gmail mobile. Does anyone have any similar experiences and suggested workarounds?

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  17. Long passphrase! by Inda · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's times like this I wish I'd chosen a shorter passphrase with less symbols. I truly hope m.gmail.com 'remembers me'. :)

    Very old, very cheap, Siemens MC60 on the Tescos O2 pay-as-you-blow network (UK) works perfectly. This is free for me by the way; does anyone else pay for GPRS on Tescos O2?

    Normally when I try and surf the web on my phone it looks a mess, important bits are missing or the phone runs out of memory because the page is too large. Gmail did not suffer from any of these problems.

    1. The interface is typical Google clean.
    2. Large emails, like 'eBay Item Sold: Mini...' emails, are split up into smaller pieces with a 'Page 2 of 5' link at the bottom. No more out of memory problems

    I didn't try anything else out because this fits my needs perfectly.

    The question on my lips now is: why has something like this taken so long to get right?

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  18. Where is NTP on this? by xoip · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Has Google just made themselves a target for Patent litigation from NTP?

  19. Blackberry for GMail by debraj · · Score: 2, Interesting

    http://www.shapeservices.com/eng/im/GMAIL/ Someone's selling Blackberries dedicated to their use to check Gmail emails.

  20. Re:And better their services can be by IAmTheDave · · Score: 2, Interesting
    But that makes me wonder... do they really want it to be accepted by the public?

    It's an interesting thought - what if GTalk was simply a beta version - a test platform if you will - for a much larger VOIP rollout later on? Get folks to start chatting VOIP style, see how reliable it is, then incorporate that into all those fun trailor-sized boxes Google will start distributing... Instant phone network for Google.

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  21. Re:Doesn't work on ROKR = iTunes phone. by Snap+E+Tom · · Score: 2, Informative

    The "crap" is CSS and JavaScript.

    And if you look at the list of supported phones, you'll see that the Rokr is not on there.

    http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answe r=30596&topic=8303

  22. Mobile standards by dada21 · · Score: 2

    My gmail on my mobile devices shows differently on every device. Pocket IE displays the basic gmail, Netfront shows a closer version to the AJAX desktop version. WAP doesn't work at all. Gmail probably has the best support short of hotmail (Microsoft loves to make sites compatible with Pocket IE) for mobiles, but all of them are far short of usable like the desktop.

    I'm really lost in finding a solution. No mobile web browser can compete with the desktop ones, based mostly on memory and processor limitations. Standards are becoming too hard to catch up with for the mobile end. I'm thinking the only solution is for these web designers to actually test a mobile version on various devices.

    Slashdot looks great on my PDA (I'm on it now). Gmail is getting closer. Even with these two looking decent, they aren't good enough. Why are companies spending money adding new features when the web sites still don't render perfectly? Get the code and interface stable across the mobile platforms and THEN add features.

  23. Re:F Google/Gmail! by moro_666 · · Score: 2, Informative

    i haven't noticed any kind of spam in my mailbox because of the gmail invitation ...

    i think you're a bit overreacting, there are zillions of ways to find out your email, mostly just massive spamming on random addresses (i see that in my server log every day, mails coming in on god knows who's name, but there have definitely never been users like that in my server).

    get a decent spam filter. spamassassin works fine for me, it blocks bogus senders from turkey and all other sorts of spamm 'homies' from which i don't want e-mails anyway :)

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