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The Truth About Suprnova Shutdown
Romeo E. Cabrera writes "You might remember it was exactly a year ago when Suprnova, once the most popular BitTorrent search engine went dark. Today, Suprnova's admin Sloncek, reveals the truth and details, about the events occurred then."
But now many invite-only trackers (running PeerGuardian on the server as well) are causing problems for the MPAA and RIAA to find bittorrent downloaders.
Slovenia is a member of the EU, so whatever EU law says about these P2P issues is probably relevant as well.
Any of our Euro-dotters care to comment?
I have a feeling this is not a fully-harmonized area, EU-law-wise, since the good folks at the Pirate Bay continue to entertain us with their responses to legal threats.
This Like That - fun with words!
it's up again, now it's newnova.org - maybe I shouldn't be sharing this but what the hell.
If you mod me down the terrorists will have won
(slovenian speaker here)
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The legal document basicly says:
Legal case against Andrej P. (his address blacked out), charged with criminal act of helping copyright infrigment by 1. article of 159. of some law with following objects written into log:
- server with serial number
- server with serial number
- server with serial number
- server with serial number
- personal computer
- personal computer
are returned to the owner because legal charges against A. P. are dropped.
And them some more legal talk where he can get his stuff in 30 days.
That is about as much as I can handle at this early hour.
I appologise for my poor English (legal), here is translation. And yes, document is genuine.
With part 224, ZKP and 6/136 of State pros. order we:
In criminal case against Andrej Preston, (adress omitted), in suspected criminal case of giving help with crime of unauthorized usage of authored (copyrighted) works at. 1/159 with connection 22 in 27 of KZ, are all objects in CD (corpus delicti) entry no ****:
***list of equipment****
to returned to owner, that is Andrej Preston, because criminial case against him was dropped.
LEGAL:
Named (Andrej Preston) can take above mentioned objects at District State prosecutor office in Ljubljana in 30 days from receiving this letter. After 30 days, all objects will be destroyed.
NewNova is online, it offers the same content that SuprNova once had.
FYI in the US, there is secondary liability for civil copyright infringement. In a criminal copyright infringement case, it might be possible for the government to prosecute an indirect infringer under an aiding and abetting theory, but I'm not aware of any examples.
-- This and all my posts are in the public domain. I am a lawyer. I am not your lawyer, and this is not legal advice.
Needless to say but you seem to be confusing Suprnova with Lokitorrent. Loki pretty much took the money and ran after selling his registered users out. Suprnova never required registration to use the trackers, Lokitorrent did, so when Loki handed over his user logs the RIAA (I think it was) got there hands on the email addresses of anyone who'd used the sites. That's a LOT of hotmail addresses...
The scanned letter is just a list of conficated equipment (streznik = server, osebni racunalnik = personal computer) which is to be returned, because the charges against him were dropped.
I don't know about the US, but here in Sweden, there is a law from the BBS era that holds sites free from any responsibility of linking to copyrighted material, as long as they don't host the material themselves. That is what keeps ThePirateBay afloat (since that's basically the way Bittorrent works).
TBP, safe to say the torrent community is still strong just like it was in the suprnova days, might just be you who decided not to be part of it anymore.
TvTorrents,www.tvtorrents.com would be another one, there are plenty of torrent site, thepiratebay, without a doubt, being the largest in the world.
If you wanna have a laugh, take a look at TBP Legal Threats, and then decide how big the chances are that tpb will go down (lawchange in sweden, where TPB is hosted, takes approx. 2 years, and they haven't even started trying to change it yet).
EU, efficient as it is, normally takes 5 years to answer a question on how a law is to be interpreted, plus the EU cannot in itself enforce any laws but rely on the member states to do so. In the case of ThePirateBay, Sweden sees itself as having followed the EU directive. If they haven't, well, ask the EU as to how the law is to be interpreted and wait 5 years, at the very least, for an answer
Then ofcourse you need to wait approx. 2 years more for Sweden to make a lawchange and then about another year for the law to be enforced, so I'd say time is on your side!
Ofcourse, DMCA or any other US specific laws do not apply in Sweden so TPB, or any other bittorrent tracker you wish to open, is completly safe and cannot be shutdown or forced to remove material in any way shape or form (as decided by the Swedish Supreme Court in 1996, linking to copyrighted material is not against the law). Hence, you do not need an island or a small (well, not that Sweden is that big but still) country in the middle of nowhere. Simply host the site in Sweden and you're set!
Free-range torrent hosting and great gingerbread cookies. That's reason enough to move.
Bury me in mashed potatoes.