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Graphics Coming to Google Ads

Firmafest writes "New York Times reports that "Users of Google's search engine will soon see something they are not used to on the notoriously spare site: advertising with logos and graphics. And the advertisers will not be limited to America Online, whose talks with Google prompted the change in policy, according to two executives close to the companies' negotiations." The Financial Times has more on the partnership" CT: Sorry folks. My email is broken this morning and i'm not getting error reports.

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  1. AdBlock by glomph · · Score: 4, Informative
    1. Re:AdBlock by SCHecklerX · · Score: 4, Informative
      And a very simple set of rules that will match almost any ad (remove the space that slashdot adds to some of these):
      [Adblock]
      us.a1.yimg.com
      /.*ads?[./]/
      /.*banner s?[./]/
      /.*sponsors?[./]/
      adserv
      advert
      fastcl ick.net
    2. Re:AdBlock by Secrity · · Score: 2, Informative

      I've kept non-advert banners in the /banners/ folder. Good luck using the site when you've blocked all the navigation.

      I would just assume that the site was broken or that it was "enhanced" for IE and move on {shrug}

    3. Re:AdBlock by geschild · · Score: 3, Informative

      Better yet: CustomizeGoogle

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    4. Re:AdBlock by cloudmaster · · Score: 4, Informative
      It blocks anything that ends with ad, ads, ad., ads. Are you telling me that no valid words end with the combination ad or ads?
      [danny@midnight devel]$ egrep -c 'ads?$' /usr/share/dict/words
      147
      Some of those words include "uploads", "threads", "download", etc. Yeah, I'm sure there's probably nothing I'd ever likely want to see in a directory called "threads" or "downloads". I mean, gingerbread and keypad, probably not, but the Mardis Gras sites would suck without beads and redheads!

      Also, "advert" matches "inadvertant", and Yahoo! puts some of their navigational graphics on *.a1.yimg.com as I found when I blocked that site (though I still block it).

      There's a good reason that those banner blocking proxys, etc, use hostnames and more specific rules, and why in general you want regexps to be as specific as possible. It's not because people like excessive busywork.

      As a service to those who would say "fine, what would *you* do," here's the relevant part of my squid.conf, which blocks a big chunk of the annoying ads on sites I regularly visit (including a big chunk of the google ads that I got pissed off at a while back):
      # junk ads
      acl junk dstdomain .tradedoubler.com
      acl junk dstdomain .doubleclick.net
      acl junk dstdomain .fastclick.net
      acl junk dstdomain .advertising.com
      acl junk dstdomain .atdmt.com
      acl junk dstdomain .a1.yimg.com
      acl junk dstdomain .mediaplex.com
      acl junk dstdomain .valueclick.com
      acl junk dstdomain .cj.com
      acl junk dstdomain .pointroll.com
      acl junk dstdomain .m7z.net
      acl junk dstdomain ads.wunderground.com
      acl junk dstdomain banners.wunderground.com
      acl junk dstdomain .falkag.net
      acl junk dstdomain .ru4.com
      acl junk dstdomain .eyewonder.com
      acl junk dstdomain .casalemedia.com
      acl junk dstdomain .pennyweb.com
      acl junk dstdomain .2o7.net
      acl junk dstdomain ads.autotrader.com
      acl junk_url_paths urlpath_regex ^/ads/.*
      acl junk_urls url_regex http://./\.priceline\.com/banners/.*
      acl junk_urls url_regex http://./\.googlesyndication\.com/pagead/.*\.js
      a cl junk_urls url_regex https?://a.*\.akamai\.net/.*!(shopnbc\.com.*)
       
      # block requests to junk domains
      http_access deny junk
      http_access deny junk_urls
      http_access deny junk_url_paths
       
      # replace the junk ads with an image from my web server
      deny_info http://www.myinternalsite.com/images/icons/thumbs_ down.gif junk
      deny_info http://www.myinternalsite.com/images/icons/thumbs_ down.gif junk_urls
      deny_info http://www.myinternalsite.com/images/icons/thumbs_ down.gif junk_url_paths
      Using the thumbsdown icon I can see that it's working - I like that a little better than my previous use of a 1x1 clear .gif. The list is getting big enough that I should probably just put that stuff in an external file (at least the rules) which I include, rather than putting it in squid.conf directly, but I haven't felt the compulsion to do so yet. Also note the akami.net rule has an exclude for shopnbc.com - it was blocking product images on something the wife wanted to look at. It may block other useful imagery, but so far I haven't noticed - but I may not notice, either. Though, one could argue philisophically about whether or not something I didn't notice was important to begin with, I suppose...
    5. Re:AdBlock by geminidomino · · Score: 2, Informative

      So you assume the web designer was incompetent, rather than yourself (or whoever gave you that adblock recipe).

      And this is modded informative?

  2. Google, or the content network? by penguin_asylum · · Score: 3, Informative

    I read here that the graphical ads are just for people who use adsense, and not for the main page. (from the site, "I sent an email to the Google Adsense support team and 'Jim' tells me that the beta is for the content network only.")

    In any case, if it _is_ for google too, this could easily make me use another search engine if it's at all obtrusive. One of the few reasons I use google is because it's simple, so it's quick to load and easier to find what you're actually looking for.

  3. Re:Finally a chance to user my adblocker on Google by DrYokomohoyo · · Score: 2, Informative

    You could adblock iframes long ago.

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  4. Adblock to the rescue by hotspotbloc · · Score: 4, Informative
    Google has been playing with image banner ads for a while which is why "http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/imgad ?*" is in my Adblock kill file. Don't they realize that the only reason most people who can block ads haven't blocked them because the vast, vast majority of their ads are text only?

    BTW, get Adblock here: http://adblock.mozdev.org/

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    1. Re:Adblock to the rescue by bloodstains · · Score: 2, Informative

      The first time I ran across this I just added *.googlesyndication.com* to my blocked sites list. I felt a bit sad and a bit guilty about it, but I guess that makes this a non-story for me. The tides turned a while ago. This is not news.

  5. You *do* have choices by brunes69 · · Score: 4, Informative
    Teoma still has only text-based ads, and has some innovative features and accurate results.

    MSN Search has only text ads. Sure, it is MS, but the new engine is actually pretty accurate and has useful features like encarta integration.

    Yahoo! search also has no image-based ads. Funny how people are constantly bashing Yahoo!, and now Google is going to have image ads on it's search, where Yahoo! removed them a long time ago.

    It's called a free market, we wil see how it plays out. If Google alienates their customers, they will migrate elsewhere.

    1. Re:You *do* have choices by spif · · Score: 2, Informative

      Let's not forget Clusty. I already use them a lot for relatively basic searches. Maybe I'll be using them even more now.

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  6. Clusty also serves Google ads... by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 2, Informative

    Clusty also serves Google ads. How do I know? I just looked up myself on Clusty and my Google text ad popped up. Interesting nonetheless; I'll add it to my search collection for a while and see how it goes.

  7. Re:Finally a chance to user my adblocker on Google by Gulthek · · Score: 2, Informative

    You may find http://www.regular-expressions.info/ helpful. Adblock supports regex strings. I yearn for the day when a search engine does as well.

  8. And A9 as well by msbmsb · · Score: 1, Informative

    Don't forget A9 - nice interface, text-only ads.

  9. Prefetching is a Firefox feature by tppublic · · Score: 2, Informative
    I think you're referring to link prefetching?

    I'd also note it's not related to the ads, but the first search result.

  10. A9 uses Google by brunes69 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Not only is A9's search powered by Google, but it's ads are as well.

    So it is unknown how this deal will effect them. You may see graphics in A9's results as well.

  11. Re:Finally a chance to user my adblocker on Google by sqlrob · · Score: 3, Informative

    They do. I've had them blocked since the "Download Ep3 here!" and "Get your free PS3" ads. If it's not IFRAME's, then it's script tags with an external source. Either way, it's blockable with AdBlock.

  12. Re:Can they do it? by loupgarou21 · · Score: 2, Informative

    AOL had announced that they were planning on switching from Google search to MSN search for their users. Google didn't like the idea, so they offered AOL a ton of money and, from what I understand, they bought a piece of AOL

  13. Re:Inevitable by YU+Nicks+NE+Way · · Score: 2, Informative
    As long as Google remains a publically traded company they're going to have to keep the stock holders happy.
    Actually, in Google's case, no. In a typically Googlish piece of brilliance, the triumvirate reached back to techniques from the Gilded Age when they IPO'ed. Google has a two-tiered stock offering. Class A shares are held entirely by company insiders, and have ten times the voting power of the Class B shares which were offered to the public. As a result, those $400+ shares of GOOG not only pay no dividends, they offer no control. The only use they have as shares of stock is for luring in greater fools.
  14. Re:code by patro · · Score: 2, Informative

    This is evil if true. As a part of the AOL-Google deal Google will add links to AOL content without labelling it as advertising.

  15. Re:and competition is good by chrisgeleven · · Score: 2, Informative

    Actually, there is a beta of Google Earth that leaked for OS X.

  16. Re:Finally a chance to user my adblocker on Google by shreevatsa · · Score: 4, Informative

    You mean you haven't heard of Flashblock? (Install it from here.)

    It does exactly what you want—blocks all Flash with a box with a Play button on it, which you can click if you want to allow that Flash object to play.

  17. Re:code by dotwhynot · · Score: 4, Informative

    Google agreed to special placements/treatments of AOL in their Search that Microsoft during the negotiations refused as unethical. That's interesting.

  18. Re:code by PaintyThePirate · · Score: 2, Informative

    They've been allowing animated GIFs and Flash ads for months. They do, however, allow publishers to choose whether or not they want image ads displayed on their sites, and probably will continue to do so. On my site at least, only a fwe percent of the ads shown are image ads, and only a few percent of those are animated.

  19. Re:code by cicadia · · Score: 2, Informative
    Yes, I believe that Sergey Brin actually said that a couple of years ago. There's an oft-cited Wired article on it here.

    As for finding it on google.com, try here.

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  20. Flashblock sucks. by ArmorFiend · · Score: 2, Informative

    Flashblock sucks.
    It blocks all flash except for the flash it doesn't block.
    It causes firefox to crash on certain pages (e.g. links from Huffington post),
    If you use firefox's built in extension updater, flashblock runs amok and corrupts your preferences.
    Flashblocks uninstaller doesn't actually work, you have to fire up emacs to cleanly uninstall or upgrade it.

    Run away, far away.