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Microsoft Hires GUI 'Design Guru'
overpayd writes "ZDnet is reporting that Microsoft has hired 'user interface guru' Bill Buxton to work as a senior researcher. Will this move help focus the design teams for Vista, Office, etc? From the article: 'My sense is that Microsoft is in transition from an engineering-led company to as much a design-led company ... There are more designers at Microsoft on any single team as there were, not too long ago, in the entire company. It's a wonderful change.'"
title: Microsoft Hires GUI 'Design Guru'
slashdot misleads again.
he is not a GUI design guru, he is a human-machine interaction guru.
this article has no direct relation to GUIs.
i can handle the dupes, but it's very bad practice to post misleading information
(hint to Zonk: READ the article before posting).
Marge, get me your address book, 4 beers, and my conversation hat.
Okay, I'm done reading about three articles about Bill Buxton. Sounds like a bright and interesting guy.
Now, the litmus test, which Microsoft repeatedly fails, will be whether Microsoft cares or is willing to listen to this guy and his ideas. In my opinion, Microsoft's hiring of high-profile talents or personalities in the past has been more for:
The last great creative mind I remember at Microsoft was Nathan Myhrvold, and I can't remember any great contributions from him.
As for Burton's quote about the move and Microsoft:
Microsoft always has been and always be a Gates/Ballmer-led company, and that's not about engineering, and that's not about design. Waxing eloquent about his new employer is quaint, but Burton sheds no light on Microsoft's intentions or future directions. If history serves, no changes are in the offing.
This is news, but it isn't big news, and it isn't very interesting news.
Someone got this guy to work on a *nix desktop environment.
For such a powerfull operating system it has a crippled userinterface.
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TFA is remarkably uninformative. Do not bother with it, if it becomes slashdotted.
This article (PC or people--who's the boss?) has an interview with him today.
Bill Addresses his Microsoft transition on his home page: http://www.billbuxton.com/
He is cited in the Wikipedia article about Human-computer interaction.
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This is only going to make a difference if they actually listen to his input and implement his suggestions. I'll be surprised to see that happening. It seems that Microsoft has the idea that simply hiring these brilliant people will make a difference. What they don't seem to understand is that they also need to listen to what these people tell them...
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Or at all? I've gotten used to MS' menu layout. As a matter of fact, when they change their own menu items between versions, I'm lost. And it really pisses me off!
I just think that humans are so adaptable that you could do anything and we would learn to deal with it. And if you consider MS' monopoly position, they could put the "File" options under "Help" and that would be the standard.
I thought good "computer-human interaction" has always been the main attraction of Microsoft products... so why is it anything new that they should be leaning towards the design side of things?
(I can't find his website)
If it's people like you judging whether his website is hard to use or not then I wouldn't worry, cos if you can't find it WHEN THE LINK IS RIGHT THERE IN THE SLASHDOT SUMMARY then you have some inbuilt usability issues within yourself, and no amount of design is going to fix them
I just assumed it was so good that I didn't understand it;-)
'My sense is that Microsoft is in transition from an engineering-led company to as much a design-led company'
Good. Now that they've got the engineering programs solved, having created what everyone agrees is the most solid and bug-free operating system on the market, they can start trying to catch up to Linux in ease-of-use and UI flashiness.
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Shouldn't they have hired this guy BEFORE completing and releasing all those betas of Vista?
As far as I can tell, engineering is trying to create a solution for a problem.
Design, on the other hand, extends engineering by trying to figure out the problem first.
For things like bridges, the problem is fairly self evident: There is a gap or chasm to cross. It is synonymous to design or engineer a bridge.
Airports, on the other hand, are much tougher problems to tackle. You don't engineer an airport, you design an airport.
Maybe a better way to put it is: Designers work around the requirements of people. Engineers work around the requirements of the problem.
If you have a designer involved, the engineers will have already taken into account the requirements of the people. If you don't have a designer around, then the engineers have to fake it and come up with ad hoc solutions to meet the unexpected needs of the people you are trying to help.
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No, they aren't in public beta, but usually by the time they reach that stage all the major design decisions have been long since made. The current CTP of Vista released in early December is probably the 4th or 5th offical release that has more or less had the same GUI so I get the feeling that he won't have much of an impact on that. Office 12 is considered to be pre-beta so its interface may still be up for discussion, however one of the major changes in this version is how menus and toolbars are grouped and arranged, and I doubt he had any input on that. If you haven't seen the release check out some screen shots, it is a radical departure from every previous version.
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Honestly? Because no matter what he does, even if it is the next best thing since sliced bread, the majority of /. posters aren't going to be satisfied as it still is Microsoft.
Let some other company do it and it will be lauded. Let some other company screw it up and it probably won't get posted or if it does a million bad examples superficially similar to something wrong Microsoft did will be used to excuse it.
Microsoft may be lead by certain people but most of their products do have that design by committee look. The one thing that makes OSS great can also make it aggravating and that is that a lot of it is created by individuals. Individuals don't always feel a need to compromise and that can lead to true innovation. Fortunately their screw ups are rarely noticed until they have gained name recognition. Multinational corporations don't have that ability anymore.
Look at this way, at least they are hiring people that are known quantities. From that we can at least deduce what they are trying to do or hope to do.
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As someone who has personally seen Bill Buxton speak, and also as someone who has had HCI (Human Computer Interaction as the field is actually called) training, I can say that for once the Zonk is not totally wrong.
I agree he should have read the article before posting, but it's also not correct to say he has no direct relation to GUIs. He speaks very much of design and how to make proper GUIs. In fact he actually teaches design at his university.
A big part of HCI is GUI design. How could it not be? After all how do most humans interact with computers?
To quote Bill Buxton:
"Not only should you get the design right, but more importantly, you should get the right design."
He is most certainly a guru of design, and that includes GUI.
Alan Cooper's "The Inmates are Running the Asyulum" and "About Face" books are good overviews of designing for user needs rather than against system internals. (I used to work for Alan).
Donald Norma's "Design of Everyday Things" is an excellent book that will give you a new way of looking at problems. DOET is about non-software (doors, tekettles, etc.) but once you've read it, you will never look at the design of things in quite the same way.
These books aren't step-by-step directions on how to achieve good design. They are more about getting into the right frame of mind so that you can think clearly about what good design might mean. I can't recommend them enough (especially DOET).
There's alo a book called "GUI Design Bloopers" that is an excellent reference on what NOT to do.
HTH.
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I am growing increasingly weary of this attitude. Design is just as much an aspect of engineering as engineering is an aspect of design. A bunch of designers going willy-nilly with no handle on engineering is just as bad as a bunch of engineers doing the same thing to design. Human factors indeed.
Nerd rage is the funniest rage.
Oh, right. Good computer human interaction.
Like being able to click on a filename in tile mode to initiate a rename action, but then having the filename move away from your mouse so when you click again to select the entry point, you deselect the filename.
Or how the only way to access the tile and cascade window functions of the OS is by right-clicking the taskbar, when half the users out there don't know the difference between right and left click.
Right, that Microsoft.
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Or the one that really gets me, which is system-modal dialogues popping up from some other crud program when I'm typing something, stealing the keyboard focus, and then going haywire because some of the characters I typed corresponded to accelerators in the dialogue. Comparing OS X' little icons that bounce up and down at the bottom of the screen when they want attention with that monstrosity is like the difference between arriving at a fine restaurant in a Rolls Royce with a supermodel at your side, and being dragged by the testicles from Beijing to New Delhi by a pickup with with Barry Manilow in the back.
I'm not going to change your sheets again, Mr. Hastings.
There are undoubtedly others I've forgotten or not heard about. Add your contribution. Maybe we can put up a monument somewhere.
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I remember clearly hearing Bill mutter under his breath while wandering the halls of Alias; "I hate computers -- I [expletive deleted] HATE computers -- but I *especially* hate Windows computers!"
(This was`a number of years ago.)
Bill was always great to work with -- I hope Microsoft treats him well, and I wish him the best.
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