So is adding/withdrawing money from an ATM. You shouldn't need a receipt to verify that the correct amount of money was withdrawn from your account because it's all electronic.
I was once shorted by an ATM. In short, I complained to my credit union and they ordered an audit of the ATM and my account was credited. At no time was my receipt requested. My point is how could the voter have something that would really prove the vote he caste was his without casting doubt on his vote?
Ok, that pun was unitentional, ut I can't think of a re-phrasing off of the top of my head.
That would come in real handy for a recount. Have stubs at the end of the receipt that shows the vote - nothing else - for submission when/if there's a recount. Of course, there's the whole issue of forgery, but then again, when has it not been an issue.
Also, the GPL is NOT clear. If it were clear, then I wouldn't have questioned it. Would I? Nor would there be so many conflicting answers that have appeared on other threads that dealt with the GPL. ( Search under GPL 3 here on/.)
And packages, in many cases, do not work when installed. My bench mark? Windows Installs. In very rare cases does a program installed under Windows not work. And ys, that's F/OSS'es competition. Being free isn't enough F/OSS has much work ahead of it.
And I'm done with this thread. You've already wasted too much time boosting your ego. Bye!
Ummm... no you don't. Are you trolling or just stupid? The GPL is quite clear that the output of a program is not a derivative work and so need not be distributed under the terms of the GPL.
If that is what exempts people and businesses for F/OSS usage, then F/OSS is will be relegated to the arrogant hobbyist and Bill G, Ellison, etc al. will continue to become richer, I will lose an option, but, on the other hand, you can pump up your little ego.
BTW, packages DO NOT ALWAY WORK. So, thank you, you just gave me yet another reason AGAINST F/OSS. See what arrogance gets you?
That means that 2/3s are actually using it for actual work.
I am. I am in a personal study of pornography on the internet. I am also doing a business plan for an online porn business which requires MUCH research on my part. I am also investigating the neuro-masturbatory reflexes in middle aged males. I am also investigating the proliferation of "MILF" websites. I have many, many more work related activities that I perform on the interent.
So, you sir are quite correct. 2/3s of us are working.
The relatively minimal costs of open source versus not will continue to be an upward pressure on their implementation.
I have to doubt that a bit. As I am investigating F/OSS right now, there's some things are a real pain in the ass and that would eventually add to the cost of installaion and operation of it.
One is that when I'm installing F/OSS software, almost always, there's bunch of dependencies that I don't know about when I first install it. Yes, yes, there's the 'README' that has some of the dependencies. But it almost never mentions the dependencies of the dependencies. I guess these folks didn't document exactly how they built their built there development environment, therefore, they may have forgotten somthing that's needed? Regardless, all of that stuff has to be hunted down. It takes a lot of time. And time is money.
A lot of F/OSS projects are started and never quite finished or they're not suported any longer - so, it'll be up to the users/consumers to maintain it.
The GNU license. If I ask, let's say, if I compile some proprietary code with gcc, does that mean my code is now under GNU? I'll get basically two different answers: yes or no.That's scary to the corp types. At the very least, there's going to legal costs associated with settling that. If I end up going with this start up, I will have to get legal advice. That's yet another cost.
Or, I could just say fuck it! And spend my litle money on MS and the others. It depends on the cost bebefit analysis.
It's not like the open source MySQL is going to go away if they buy MySQL AB.
They could let it just die. As in, stop supporting it, stop adding code, stop fixing bugs, etc.... just leave it as it is until it becomes irrelevent because obsolescence.
I was once talking to an Australian, and I asked about Tazmanian Devils (Thinking that they were some ficticious character invented by Warner Borthers for their cartoons). He goes off on how vicious they are to livestock and what a pain in the ass they are to get rid of. Here I am, the ignorant American, laughing my ass off, thinking that he's just running with the joke. Looking back, it now makes sense why he was looking at me funny - he was very polite, though.p/Doh!
You actually took the time to find the link to the submitters's webpage?
Dude, you need to find a 12 step program - along with me. (I promised on another topic that I'd quit to go to bed. But I can quit anytime I want to...It's just that...I dont' wnt to...I wan't to stay up for more hours... here on/....really...I can quit at anytime...no REALLY....don't touch that RJ-45 connector..GET AWAY!.......(Intervention)
(W)holy shit! You're right! I just saw the first line and I thought "Oh, great! Another posting of somebody's blog who has some axe to grind!" So, I didn't even bother reading the rest. I didn't think it was even worth it - except to post a two bit opinion;-)
Then again, you made an interesting point and maybe I made one by accident and out of pure stupidity.:-)
I think it's time for me to go to bed now - up too early coding - and up too late last night doing the same.
FTFA: Philadelphia ABC-6 Action News at 11 tonight poses the question, "Is the Nintendo DS connecting your child with Strangers?" It also asks, using an exclamation point instead of a question mark, "Are unsuspecting kids being lured into dangerous chat rooms using this toy!"
It's all sensationalist shit to get ratings.
How's does it go again: Move along! Nothing to see here!.
the Wachowskis thought that people went to see the movies because of the Car chases, bullets flying, and the Kung Fu fight scenes. Maybe some people did. But what got me hooked on the first was things like this line, "Knowing the path is different from walking the path." I thought, "Ooooo" these guys are going to do something different and possibly something that has a deeper meaning than, blam-blam-blam-blamblam-blam". But noooo, that's not how it turned out. And if they did it the way I thought they were going to do it, it would have cost much less and they would have made more money.
Geeesh. I understand how you can be upset that layoffs have to happen from time to time, but come on. I've been through 3 layoffs so far, and while your response is the typical knee-jerk response, you're really just being a grouch.
Have you ever been laid off? You say you've been through them, but you haven't said if your were actually laid off yourself.
The other thing is that I've worked for companies that demand loyalty from their employees. I don't know if you ever had those types of interviews or company meetings. Demanding 60+ hours a week and not getting compensated for it. Then, as soon as earnings are down a little or worse, they don't meet analysts exxpectations - you're out the door. Have you ever witnessed that?
I've had some really shitty experiences and seen some really shitty things done to people in corporate life.
How would you feel if you were canned to send your whole department off to India - this after just buying a house and a new car, and after management said that everything was going great? It's happened. And if the company is laying off, you can be sure that another one may be coming. I was at a company where there was one lay-off to get rid of the dead wood - I survived. Then another one to get rid of the bulk of the people going, and then a last one for god knows why. I survived all of them. You know why? No, not because I was the best. There were people who smarter than you and me put together. I was left behind becuase I was willing to be paid $10,000 less than I was worth. I then smartened up and left for a $12,000 raise. Come to find out, I was still underpaid. I've learned now.
So, before you start name calling, you need to consider that some people have been really screwed over and/or seen their friends lose everything because of incompetent management.
Have a nice Valentines and I hope you don't end up like of these folks.
FTFA: "We're just trying [to] strike a balance between our near-term needs in '07 and our anticipated growth in '08," said Activision's Dyer to TheStreet.com. The company will attempt to redeploy workers where possible, after having notified them last week of the layoffs. Shares of Activision closed the regular session up 12 cents to $13.07.
FTFL: Kotick maintains that Activision's future is bright, however: "In the long term, we are planning for market growth that historically follows the introduction of new console hardware. To leverage this future growth and prepare for fiscal 2008, which we expect will be the biggest year in Activision's history, we will continue to focus on investment in our product development resources and intellectual property portfolio, growing our international operations and optimizing our worldwide cost structure and resource allocation."
This is completely asinine. These layoffs are for the short-term to appease Wall Street - in the short term. In the meantime, they're destroying employee moral and hurting their long-term performance. And I bet they have the gall to demand loyalty from their employees.
FTFA: "The only way in which people will be able to opt out of the system is by giving up their right to travel abroad.
Parent:
The British public were told this was an 'opt in' system. I have to travel abroad to work effectively. This gives me no choice at all.
This isn't meant for you. This is to track a certain portion of your population that, let's say, doesn't like cartoons. This is an excuse to track their traveling. Unfortunately, honest folks are being caught up in this just to track some assholes.
What is it with microsoft thinking they can all of a sudden trump their competition by re-inventing products that already exist and are dominating the market.
And...Don't they know when they're beat, or when they should focus on their strong points.
That is their strong(er) point. That's how they've operated since they started. That's how most businesses operate: take an existing product, change it a little (hopefully the change makes your version competitive), and sell it. Being the innovator or the first is extremely risky (ex. Go Computer) and many times it takes the followers to make the market work - again Go and th PDAs/Handhelds.
FTFA: Rep. Chris Smith, R-N.J., is drafting a bill that would force Internet companies including Google, Yahoo and Microsoft to keep vital computer servers out of China and other nations the State Department deems repressive to human rights.
All a company has to do is develop a "joint" venture with a European, Asian, or even a Chinese company (i.e. government) and bingo! the "joint venture's" servers are now in China under Chinese Government's control.
I think the Chinese government, as a condition of doing business in their country, will not put up with this law - as in a company will not be able to abide by the spirit of the law. I'm thinking of starting a pool on haw fast this bill is squashed.
And I finished my work and I saw my stupid movie and/. is still publishing shit here on Sunday.
Well, time to eat and, well, spend time with my family. I guess the/. editors are helping me with my New Years Resolution - less time on/. - Thanks!!!!
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But what you don't see coming is the push to boot GNU/Hurd on these new Macs!
I tought you wrote ..But what you don't see cuming is the push to boot GNU/Hard on these new Macs!
Yes siree, it's been a looooong day!
So is adding/withdrawing money from an ATM. You shouldn't need a receipt to verify that the correct amount of money was withdrawn from your account because it's all electronic.
I was once shorted by an ATM. In short, I complained to my credit union and they ordered an audit of the ATM and my account was credited. At no time was my receipt requested. My point is how could the voter have something that would really prove the vote he caste was his without casting doubt on his vote?
Ok, that pun was unitentional, ut I can't think of a re-phrasing off of the top of my head.
That would come in real handy for a recount. Have stubs at the end of the receipt that shows the vote - nothing else - for submission when/if there's a recount. Of course, there's the whole issue of forgery, but then again, when has it not been an issue.
Also, the GPL is NOT clear. If it were clear, then I wouldn't have questioned it. Would I? Nor would there be so many conflicting answers that have appeared on other threads that dealt with the GPL. ( Search under GPL 3 here on /.)
And packages, in many cases, do not work when installed. My bench mark? Windows Installs. In very rare cases does a program installed under Windows not work. And ys, that's F/OSS'es competition. Being free isn't enough F/OSS has much work ahead of it.
And I'm done with this thread. You've already wasted too much time boosting your ego. Bye!
But do they stand up to lubricants, excessive friction, and, well, let say, proteins?
If that is what exempts people and businesses for F/OSS usage, then F/OSS is will be relegated to the arrogant hobbyist and Bill G, Ellison, etc al. will continue to become richer, I will lose an option, but, on the other hand, you can pump up your little ego.
BTW, packages DO NOT ALWAY WORK. So, thank you, you just gave me yet another reason AGAINST F/OSS. See what arrogance gets you?
I am. I am in a personal study of pornography on the internet. I am also doing a business plan for an online porn business which requires MUCH research on my part. I am also investigating the neuro-masturbatory reflexes in middle aged males. I am also investigating the proliferation of "MILF" websites. I have many, many more work related activities that I perform on the interent.
So, you sir are quite correct. 2/3s of us are working.
I find your argument for SAP quite compelling. I'll take it!
Your PHB
I have to doubt that a bit. As I am investigating F/OSS right now, there's some things are a real pain in the ass and that would eventually add to the cost of installaion and operation of it.
One is that when I'm installing F/OSS software, almost always, there's bunch of dependencies that I don't know about when I first install it. Yes, yes, there's the 'README' that has some of the dependencies. But it almost never mentions the dependencies of the dependencies. I guess these folks didn't document exactly how they built their built there development environment, therefore, they may have forgotten somthing that's needed? Regardless, all of that stuff has to be hunted down. It takes a lot of time. And time is money.
A lot of F/OSS projects are started and never quite finished or they're not suported any longer - so, it'll be up to the users/consumers to maintain it.
The GNU license. If I ask, let's say, if I compile some proprietary code with gcc, does that mean my code is now under GNU? I'll get basically two different answers: yes or no.That's scary to the corp types. At the very least, there's going to legal costs associated with settling that. If I end up going with this start up, I will have to get legal advice. That's yet another cost.
Or, I could just say fuck it! And spend my litle money on MS and the others. It depends on the cost bebefit analysis.
They could let it just die. As in, stop supporting it, stop adding code, stop fixing bugs, etc.... just leave it as it is until it becomes irrelevent because obsolescence.
I put my Mac on a toilet seat and I got this virus...Really!
Tazmania is in Austalia, but exactly where?
it also reminds of a funny but embarassing story:
I was once talking to an Australian, and I asked about Tazmanian Devils (Thinking that they were some ficticious character invented by Warner Borthers for their cartoons). He goes off on how vicious they are to livestock and what a pain in the ass they are to get rid of. Here I am, the ignorant American, laughing my ass off, thinking that he's just running with the joke. Looking back, it now makes sense why he was looking at me funny - he was very polite, though.p/Doh!
So, if you popped the clutch, your constants may jump in value?
Ok, Ok, I'm leaving!
Dude, you need to find a 12 step program - along with me. (I promised on another topic that I'd quit to go to bed. But I can quit anytime I want to...It's just that...I dont' wnt to...I wan't to stay up for more hours... here on /....really...I can quit at anytime...no REALLY....don't touch that RJ-45 connector..GET AWAY!.......(Intervention)
(W)holy shit! You're right! I just saw the first line and I thought "Oh, great! Another posting of somebody's blog who has some axe to grind!" So, I didn't even bother reading the rest. I didn't think it was even worth it - except to post a two bit opinion ;-)
Then again, you made an interesting point and maybe I made one by accident and out of pure stupidity. :-)
I think it's time for me to go to bed now - up too early coding - and up too late last night doing the same.
Cheers!
It's all sensationalist shit to get ratings.
How's does it go again: Move along! Nothing to see here!.
the Wachowskis thought that people went to see the movies because of the Car chases, bullets flying, and the Kung Fu fight scenes. Maybe some people did. But what got me hooked on the first was things like this line, "Knowing the path is different from walking the path." I thought, "Ooooo" these guys are going to do something different and possibly something that has a deeper meaning than, blam-blam-blam-blamblam-blam". But noooo, that's not how it turned out. And if they did it the way I thought they were going to do it, it would have cost much less and they would have made more money.
Have you ever been laid off? You say you've been through them, but you haven't said if your were actually laid off yourself.
The other thing is that I've worked for companies that demand loyalty from their employees. I don't know if you ever had those types of interviews or company meetings. Demanding 60+ hours a week and not getting compensated for it. Then, as soon as earnings are down a little or worse, they don't meet analysts exxpectations - you're out the door. Have you ever witnessed that?
I've had some really shitty experiences and seen some really shitty things done to people in corporate life.
How would you feel if you were canned to send your whole department off to India - this after just buying a house and a new car, and after management said that everything was going great? It's happened. And if the company is laying off, you can be sure that another one may be coming. I was at a company where there was one lay-off to get rid of the dead wood - I survived. Then another one to get rid of the bulk of the people going, and then a last one for god knows why. I survived all of them. You know why? No, not because I was the best. There were people who smarter than you and me put together. I was left behind becuase I was willing to be paid $10,000 less than I was worth. I then smartened up and left for a $12,000 raise. Come to find out, I was still underpaid. I've learned now.
So, before you start name calling, you need to consider that some people have been really screwed over and/or seen their friends lose everything because of incompetent management.
Have a nice Valentines and I hope you don't end up like of these folks.
FTFL: Kotick maintains that Activision's future is bright, however: "In the long term, we are planning for market growth that historically follows the introduction of new console hardware. To leverage this future growth and prepare for fiscal 2008, which we expect will be the biggest year in Activision's history, we will continue to focus on investment in our product development resources and intellectual property portfolio, growing our international operations and optimizing our worldwide cost structure and resource allocation."
This is completely asinine. These layoffs are for the short-term to appease Wall Street - in the short term. In the meantime, they're destroying employee moral and hurting their long-term performance. And I bet they have the gall to demand loyalty from their employees.
Parent: The British public were told this was an 'opt in' system. I have to travel abroad to work effectively. This gives me no choice at all.
This isn't meant for you. This is to track a certain portion of your population that, let's say, doesn't like cartoons. This is an excuse to track their traveling. Unfortunately, honest folks are being caught up in this just to track some assholes.
And...Don't they know when they're beat, or when they should focus on their strong points.
That is their strong(er) point. That's how they've operated since they started. That's how most businesses operate: take an existing product, change it a little (hopefully the change makes your version competitive), and sell it. Being the innovator or the first is extremely risky (ex. Go Computer) and many times it takes the followers to make the market work - again Go and th PDAs/Handhelds.
I thought it was:" derka, derka- Mohamad jihad - from "Team America" Hilarious movie!!
All a company has to do is develop a "joint" venture with a European, Asian, or even a Chinese company (i.e. government) and bingo! the "joint venture's" servers are now in China under Chinese Government's control.
I think the Chinese government, as a condition of doing business in their country, will not put up with this law - as in a company will not be able to abide by the spirit of the law. I'm thinking of starting a pool on haw fast this bill is squashed.
I've got next week.
Well, time to eat and, well, spend time with my family. I guess the /. editors are helping me with my New Years Resolution - less time on /. - Thanks!!!!
I'm going to go back to work now ... and then watch a stupid movie. Especially, if this is going to be the quality of aritcles on /. today.