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France to Legalize File Sharing

quenting writes "In the debate around the anti-piracy bill, the French Parliament voted yesterday into law an amendment to the DADVSI bill that allows free sharing of music and movies over the internet, considering the downloaded files as a private copy. This decision goes against the French government and the music industry's recommendations, who argue the deputies only wanted to show their independence from the government. The initial bill's detractors who pushed for this amendment want a tax for author rights to be paid by everyone on the ISP fees." The French government has vowed to fight this decision (babelfish link).

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  1. Serves them right for pushing their luck. by Sockatume · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The French Parliment over-reacted here, but it's good to see that the kind of ridiculous measures requested by record companies and their ilk are resulting in equally ridiculous responses from those who disagree. Given the way politics seems to work these days (argue for a few years then go for a 50/50 compromise) then France might wind up with sensible legislation taken from the middle-ground.

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    1. Re:Serves them right for pushing their luck. by EzInKy · · Score: 5, Insightful


      The French Parliment over-reacted here, but it's good to see that the kind of ridiculous measures requested by record companies and their ilk are resulting in equally ridiculous responses from those who disagree.


      I like to think of it more as glimpse of the future the music and movie industries will face if they keep treating all thier customers as potential theives. Eventually they'll piss off so many people that no amount of money will protect them.

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  2. It will not pass. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I am French, I know how the government works there, and I can tell it will not pass. There is going to be a second reading of the law, and the amendments voted for the "legal license" to download stuff will be removed. Some guys from the ruling party have voted for the amendments, and the government is going to sanction them for that; hence at the next session they will simply be removed.

    And if by chance the amendments are still present when the law is voted at the parliament, it is going to be cancelled by the Senate.

    Welcome to democracy folks. This is just an advertizing "coup" from the opposition party. In the end, we'll get DMCA too (possibly a worse version of it). I know. I'm from there.

  3. FYI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    This was made yesterday (21 Dec), during Chrismas holidays. As a consequence, only 58 deputies (out of 577) were present, 30 of them were for a 'global licence', 28 were against...

    I don't think it's really significative

  4. What to call this law? by corvenus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Will the Americans rename the French music piracy to "Freedom music piracy"? Ironically, in this instance the use of the word Freedom would actually make sense.

  5. Heavyhanded lobbying by draxredd · · Score: 5, Funny

    Not to mention iTune and Virgin prepaid cards being distributed to the parliament members in the Hall of l'Assemblée Nationale. France is not yet accustomed to such blatant lobbying, prefering more hypocritical means of pressure.
    So far so good but the government is certainly going to pull a Cheney on this (as in "pulling cheney back to vote patrioct act prolongation).
    If the text is finalized, i guess french ISP will see a major surge in overseas subscriptions.

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  6. Contradicting News... by stupid_is · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The Register is running a different story:

    Individuals in France who ignore copyright by downloading illegal music files will also be subject to a harsher "graduated" enforcement procedure, according to Agence France Presse.

    If uploaders keep ignoring warnings, they can be put on trial. A new anti piracy bill that is being examined by French MPs would also allow record companies to include technical measures to stop users from directly making copies.

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  7. Political situation in France by palad1 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The current french government is not really popular, not popular at all even.

    The weird thing is that there is no traditional opposition to this government. The left wing is not in good shape at all (since the 2005 elections where Jospin lost to Le Pen (our very own racist nutjob)). Which leads me to my point, these amendments were voted not because they are a Good Thing (tm) (which they are!), but because the UDF (center-right) saw this as a way to strenghten its role as the 'Real Opposition' and gain voters in the 'internet generation' demographics, which is not favorably biased towards them.

    But rest assured the current government is backed by very powerful industrials who cherish their fscking IP rights, so these amendments will be vetoed to death, or stealthly removed during the holidays season, just like previous bills have been passed last summer.

    I'd like to give my props to the eucd.info/ guys for their actions though, but don't fool yourselves, even the 'good guys' that voted these bills are using us, voters for their very own agenda.

    That's the sad truth... or maybe I should stop reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Culture :)

  8. Oh, tell them about the EU constitution by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 5, Insightful
    'Goverment' also wanted to push that through. The voter didn't go for it. Not in france, not in holland (where I am from).

    There is a backlash going on with the voter not taking it anymore. I am not that familiar with france (language barrier) but I do get the impression that it has much the same problems as holland. With a cultural elite (media and politics) having put themselves in ivory towers where they can keep telling each other everything is alright while the real world is going to hell.

    Holland had Pim Fortyun and Theo van Gogh and their murderers who upset this carefully constructed fantasy world. France had the recent riots and the continuing rise of extreme right.

    With the EU constition it became painfully clear that the politicians were totally removed from the real world. They just could not get that the voters were not going to vote it through just because they told them to.

    I think this "protest" vote is a sign that even certain circles of goverment are beginning to realize that something is wrong.

    To dismiss this as simply a publicity stunt is cheap. It is like calling the EU constition rejection a cheap stunt by the voters, no this is a way to tell the direct leaders of a country to get their act together. The NEW rules proposed are bad for the public and this was one way to make it painfully clear that there is resistance. Sometimes you have to shoot people in the face to get their attention.

    Of course the problem is that the media who are supposed to tell us about these kind of things are the people behind the whole DMCA and similar crap.

    But still it is good to see some resistance. I think this battle is far from over. If your leaders got a brain they will not want to have another disaster like the referendum. Of course if they had a brain none of this would have happened in the first place.

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  9. Re:I hereby suspend my France-Bashing for 24 hours by Darkman,+Walkin+Dude · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hereby suspend my France-Bashing for 24 hours!

    Good man yourself... are you sure your government will let you do that? I mean they spent a lot of cash on brainwashing you to dislike France because they wouldn't join your half cocked crusade, they might be upset at the waste of their money!

  10. This just in... by tomcres · · Score: 5, Funny
    Metallica boycotts France.

    Nobody cares.

  11. Ce n'est pas une légalisation du P2P by aaribaud · · Score: 5, Informative

    I've read the amendments and the law, and the minutes of the debates, and I'm even listening to the current debates right now (and yes, I'm French) and I am not sure at all that this legalizes file sharing. It might possibly make downloading licit, without doubt subject to the payment of a personal copy tax. However it does not legalize uploading at all.

  12. Re:I hereby suspend my France-Bashing for 24 hours by Anne+Honime · · Score: 5, Informative
    Ok, nevermind that, but this ammendment assumes everybody is guilty of usurping copyrighted material. In fact, you will be taxed no matter what the content of your file tranfers, even if you have never used P2P software in your life.

    The law states that the tax will be declarative : you want to copy, you pay the tax, you don't, you pay nothing (but there are chances you'll be monitored a bit ...)

  13. Wow by beforewisdom · · Score: 5, Funny

    France legalizing file sharing and Canada legalizing group sex:
    http://www.mytelus.com/news/article.do?pageID=news _home&articleID=2125712

    It sure is dull to be an American