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Update to OpenOffice 2 Released

VincenzoRomano writes "The very first update to OpenOffice 2, namely v2.0.1, has been released. Despite its version numbering, along with minor bug fixes there are a number of new features. From the update page: 'For example, it is now possible to disable and hide particular application settings, which comes in handy for central administration in networks. Plus, a new keyboard shortcut permits the user to return to a saved cursor position. The bullets and numbering feature has been expanded, and a new mail merge feature is available.' Downloads are ready in both binary formats and source code for an ever increasing number of localised languages. Go grab your version!"

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  1. To make OpenOffice faster by shreevatsa · · Score: 4, Informative

    I just read this somewhere; thought everyone might find it useful --
    Go to Tools->Options->OpenOffice.org->Java and uncheck the "Use a Java Runtime Environment". (AFAIK, it doesn't break anything I use.)

  2. Re:What's happened to open source numbering? by HishamMuhammad · · Score: 2, Informative


    Whatever happened to the standard that major feature releases increment the first number, minor feature releases increment the second number, and tweaks and bug fixes increment the third number? What is the point of numbering releases "2.0.1" if you're not going to follow the standard?


    Well, because it's not a standard, really. The kernel x.y.z scheme used the odd/even y for stable/unstable; now the x.y.z.w scheme (with a pretty peculiar usage of -rc) is different still. While a number of projects use the scheme you described, I find it easier to remember examples where they don't.

    Even if it was a standard, minor and major features are subjective terms. Now, if the numbering scheme took ABI and API compatibility as a parameter, that would be a good thing to 'standardize' to (as in, "z number upgrades are binary compatible, y number upgrades are source compatible" (and then you need to specify if compat is backward and/or forwards)).

  3. Re:What's happened to open source numbering? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Agreed.

    major.minor.bugfix

    It should be called 2.1.0 if they add features.

  4. Re:New features ? Why ? by Cutterman · · Score: 2, Informative

    Taking your points in reverse order:

    From my recent experiences in converting a small business to OOo - No, most of the current incompatibilities involve fairly esoteric corners of the suite that the average office drone, creating/accessing simple documents, is unlikely to meet.

    Remember that current MSOffice formats are closed proprietary formats - compatibility has to be achieved by laboriously reverse engineering Microsoft's "secret sauce". That OOo have reached the current degree of compatibility is an extraordinary achievement. Winkling out the last small incompatibilites will eventually be done but MS makes it as difficult as it can.

    Although the OOo interface is designed to make it easy for people to convert, it isn't a clone and this makes people nervous about switching. After a day or two of actual use they have reorientated themselves and are fine. After a week or so they've forgotten about MS.

  5. Longest to compile from source? by amightywind · · Score: 2, Informative

    I compiled that beast on my Gentoo machine two weeks ago. It took 5 hours on an Athlon XP 2800+ with 1GB of memory. Surely it is the longest compilation for a single package in the free software world. Don't get me wrong, the OO folks do an amazing job and it is impressively multi OS. But even the gnome-base only takes a fraction of the time to compile. Is there another source package out there that takes longer to compile?

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    1. Re:Longest to compile from source? by JediTrainer · · Score: 2, Informative

      Why don't you look into ccache? I've been using it, and it can be particularly useful when updating packages that you've compiled already (assuming some of the source files are unchanged from the last version).

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  6. Re:NOOO! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    You realize that automated bulleted/numbered lists is easily disabled via AutoFormat options... right?

  7. Does it work with Terminal Services Yet? by NtroP · · Score: 2, Informative
    We'd REALLY like to ditch MS Office on our Win2K3 Terminal servers, but the last time we tried to use OOo, it failed miserably - only one person at a time could use it, unless each user had their own entire copy of the App in their own home directory - which is really stupid.

    Has anyone been successful in getting OOo to run well in a Windows terminal server environment?

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    1. Re:Does it work with Terminal Services Yet? by nexxuz · · Score: 3, Informative
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  8. Linux and OpenOffice by ndtechnologies · · Score: 2, Informative

    That's weird....Fedora released OOo 2.0.1 about a week and a half ago. It was in my updates repo, and I snagged it ASAP. Luckily since I have 3 Mb DSL, it won't take too long for me either, but for those that don't have it...that really sucks.

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  9. Re:Feature Bloat? by Kimos · · Score: 2, Informative

    First off, it is a nice application when it works right, and when you have the time to download such a huge beast.

    ~100M isn't much for an entire office suite, considering what you get. Is MS office still on one CD?

    I guess if all you use is the word processor, might be nice to be able to download just parts of it rather than the entire package, but IMHO they have more important things to develop.

  10. It breaks the database and a whole lot of stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Java gets used quite a bit in OpenOffice.org. In OpenOffice.org 1.1.4 Java was used for the following:

    1. The Report Autopilot

    2. JDBC driver support for Java-based databases

    3. XSLT filters

    4. BeanShell, the Netbeans scripting language, and the Java UNO bridge

    5. Export filters to the Aportis.doc (.pdb) format for the Palm or Pocket Word (.psw) format for the Pocket PC

    In OpenOffice.org 2.0 Java is additionally used in

    1. Many parts of Base, the new Access-like database application; in particular the file-format which is a HSQLDB database

    2. The media player, which adds movie and sound clips to documents

    3. Mail merges to e-mail, which also require Java Mail

    4. All document wizards in Writer

  11. Re:What's happened to open source numbering? by robyannetta · · Score: 2, Informative
    We complain that the marketing people took over the numbering at Microsoft and other companies--like Oracle "10g" when there was no a, b, c, d, e, or f.

    The "10g" in the Oracle versioning scheme means "Version 10, Grid enabled"

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  12. Re:Why don't they release a patch? by jsight · · Score: 3, Informative

    Hurray for being wrong on all counts! :)

    Firefox's auto-updater has been incremental since 1.5 (admittedly a recent release).

    And Gentoo sends most security updates and some other updates as patches as long as you keep the original files in /usr/portage/distfiles. Admittedly, major new versions (and sometimes minor upstream releases) get pushed down as completely new packages, but patches are not uncommon even in the default system.

  13. Re:New features ? Why ? by emlprime · · Score: 3, Informative
    A pivot table is a primitive data cube. (I'm sure that helped). Basically, given a table of data with different dimensions (factoids), you can come up with aggregate groupings to analyze different segments of your population.
    So say you have a group of customers with these dimensions:
    • accountnumber
    • gender
    • state
    • activity
    • countOfPurchases
    • totalPurchasesInCents
    • latestPurchase
    • tenureOfMembership
    • averageNumberOfItemsPerBasket

    Each customer gets one row in the table. The pivot allows you to cross section this data. You could, for example, put gender across the top and tenure of membership along the left side with countOfAccountnumber (aggregate of accountnumber) to see whether males or females tend to stay with you longer. You could change the count to a percentage to see this normalized across different genders.
    You could put in both a sum of items and an average of items per order to see if your customers tend to buy more all at once, or in smaller chunks. You could pop in latest purchase and see if this trend is increasing or decreasing.
    You could do all of this with SQL, but the pivot table makes it really fast and convenient. Even PHB's can use them in our company, and often find interesting pivots.
    The most common uses that I've seen are using pivots to isolate:
    • Large churn segments (customers leaving in a big group)
    • Seasonal buying patterns (patterns grouped by month to see that X happens every December
    • Campaign analysis (Have isControl be a dimension and compare data based on whether or not they were control)

    Hope that helped.
  14. Re:Why don't they release a patch? by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 3, Informative

    This used to be the case with the 1.0 line. This was changed in Firefox 1.5 so that updates could be incremental and small.

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