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Stardust to Return January 15

accessdeniednsp writes "Seven years ago, the Stardust probe was sent to intercept Comet Wild 2, gather dust particles, and return to Earth. Stardust is scheduled to touch down in a Utah desert on January 15. From the article: 'Our mission is called Stardust, in part because we believe some of the particles in the comet will, in fact, be older than the sun,' said Don Brownlee of the University of Washington, the principal investigator of the mission."

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  1. Here's hoping this one doesn't...... by DoraLives · · Score: 4, Interesting

    land like the last one.

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    1. Re:Here's hoping this one doesn't...... by cyclone96 · · Score: 5, Informative

      No kidding...especially since they were built by the same contractor (Lockheed Martin Denver).

      The failure of Genesis was tied to a badly designed placement of deceleration sensors, a design flaw which Stardust is apparently free from (but I'm sure there will still be some serious hand-wringing on the 15th).

      More details here.

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    2. Re:Here's hoping this one doesn't...... by Bad+D.N.A. · · Score: 3, Interesting

      "The failure of Genesis was tied to a badly designed placement of deceleration sensors, a design flaw which Stardust is apparently free from"

      While it's premature to call Genesis a "failure" it certainly did not meet specs. There was a very interesting session at the AGU in SF from the Genesis team

      http://www.agu.org/cgi-bin/sessions5?meeting=fm05& part=SH32A&maxhits=400/

      on what science they are doing and where they are going with their future research. No doubt everyone would have enjoyed a successful capture but even with the Utah desert impact there seems to be significant samples available for scientific study.

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  2. Re:I know this is silly... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    The only way this could be a tad bit dangerous is if you happen to be a member of the Kansas educational board.

  3. NASA announces by metamatic · · Score: 3, Funny

    This article to return to the front page of Slashdot in a day or two.

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  4. Re:I know this is silly... by grasshoppa · · Score: 4, Funny

    The radiation from this capsule will transform anything near it..to..oh god, they're already here! SPACE ROBOTS!

    "GO STAND BY SOME STAIRS"

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  5. Re:I know this is silly... by heli0 · · Score: 5, Informative
    Probably not any more dangerous than the multiple tons of extraterrestrial debris that rains down on us every day.

    http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?numb er=470

    A study done in 1996 (looking at the number of meteorites found in deserts over time) calculated that for objects in the 10 gram to 1 kilogram size range, 2900-7300 kilograms per year hit Earth.

    They also estimate between 36 and 166 meteorites larger than 10 grams fall to Earth per million square kilometers per year. Over the whole surface area of Earth, that translates to 18,000 to 84,000 meteorites bigger than 10 grams per year.
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  6. Re:I know this is silly... by Guppy06 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Stuff rains down on us from space all the time, including comets (at least where "all the time" is in geological terms). If there was something that could be alive on a comet that could harm us, something like it would have come down and killed us all by now.

  7. Re:I know this is silly... by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 3, Informative
    I'm being serious.

    Well, I believe his point was that it certainly can't be a virus. There's no way it could be compatible with any hosts, unless of course one subscribes to the Intelligent Design notion, in which case even though it has not evolved in this environment it could be compatible.

  8. Very Important For Our Future by cyberjessy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Comets Crashing into our small planet is one of our biggest long term threats. The samples will go a long way in being able to identify their composition and look at means to destroy them in future.

    Although the likelyhood of asteroids hitting the earth are higher, comets are special in that they give very little warning before they hit. Maybe a few years, while asteroids can be predicted much earlier. A large comet hitting the earth, will likely be an ELE (Extinction Level Event), destroying most life and all humans.

    To me, this is something that we doing for sustaining human life. I don't care about the money spent, or the small chance of bringing in viruses, which they may have already considered.

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  9. There's always room for Aerogello by AndroidCat · · Score: 4, Interesting
    This probe used Aerogel for catching comet dust. It looks like bad-assed Blueberry Jello with a Cherenkov glow!

    I can't believe I didn't get on either of the name list microchips on this probe. Poot!

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  10. Re:I know this is silly... by Nyeerrmm · · Score: 5, Informative

    NASA/JPL requirements for an earth entry vehicle thats returning any kind of sample are very strict. They require that there be less than a 10^-6 chance of a particle larger than 2 nanometers entering the earth atmosphere.

    Those NASA administrators read Crichton too.

  11. Re:Is that accurate? by Baddas · · Score: 3, Informative

    It depends greatly on a couple factors:
    Coefficient of drag, surface area, mass of the object, and the density of the air it's falling in.

    If you assume that the object can survive the freefall from space, then the air changes density enough that it would slow to the terminal velocity of the object at approximately sea level regardless of how fast it was going (within a reasonable orbital velocity)

    So to summarize a bit, it'd be easily possible to design a rough-surfaced sphere that could slow to well under 100mph. Just think of a ping-pong ball or a beach ball!

  12. Re:Is that accurate? by cyclone96 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Another variable is the entry angle. Genesis was *targeted* such that it would hit the edge of the earth's atmosphere and utilize it to bleed off almost all of its kinetic energy through friction. The parachutes were only designed to take care of braking it that last 200 mph or so.

    Of course, they never deployed, so it essentially hit the ground at terminal velocity - basically the same as if you had just rolled it out of an aircraft at 50,000 feet.

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  13. stardust? by pintomp3 · · Score: 3, Funny

    damn, i got all excited reading the headline. i thought my fav stripclub was going to reopen. oh well. btw, no need to mark your calender, you will be reminded here in a couple days.

  14. Re:I know this is silly... by Temporal · · Score: 4, Informative

    You're absolutely right. Your suggestion is silly.

    A life form which evolved to survive on the surface of a comet has zero chance of being successful inside the human body. In order for a life form to evolve to be effective in an environment, it must have exposure to that environment. The viruses which already plague us here on Earth have spent billions of years evolving specifically to attack the other life forms already present on Earth.

    Of course, this argument is strongly rooted in evolution. As some other posters have pointed out, if you believe in intelligent design, you might disagree. But then, real-life observations and evidence are overwhelmingly consistent with evolution, not intelligent design, so I think we're safe.

  15. Brownlee Rocks! by ChuckleBug · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was student of Don Brownlee at the University of Washington, and I think he's about the most decent and caring professor I've ever had. Even when I was an undergrad, I could go to his office and he'd just talk about his work for what seemed like hours, even to a lowly undergrad. I'm not saying this to name-drop -- I want people to know what a cool person he is. If anyone deserves success, it's Dr. Brownlee. Truly one of the good guys in science. He's one of those rare professors who managed to make himself famous (the guy has an asteroid named after him) while remaining humble and committed to helping his students learn. We need more scientists like him.

  16. Re:Utah? by Ranger · · Score: 4, Funny

    -1 Flaimbait? Wow! Mormons, sure are sensitive. At least I didn't say: My Xenu! It's full of Scientologists!

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  17. Re:I know this is silly... by alc6379 · · Score: 3, Funny
    But there's the possibility that life in meteorites was just burned away traveling through the atmosphere at high speeds. I would assume that Stardust would have been designed to keep things from getting TOO hot, so those lifeforms that were previously burned away might possibly have more of a chance to make it to the surface unharmed.

    That's true-- and come to think of it, I'm not going to be anywhere near those lifeforms once they're taken off of the probe. Once they find out our atmosphere has been burning up their relatives, they're going to be PISSED.

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  18. Particle age by Atario · · Score: 3, Interesting
    we believe some of the particles in the comet will, in fact, be older than the sun
    All particles are the same age -- about 13 billion years, when the universe cooled enough for them to form.

    Oh, you mean superatomic particles. Never mind.
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