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Wikipedia Semi-Protection Begins

seanvaandering writes "Admins began applying their recently announced 'Wikipedia semi-protection' feature this week. The first articles to be semi-protected were George W. Bush, Hitler, and Jesus Christ, barring the newest 1% of all users and anonymous visitors from modifying the article (apparently Satan didn't make the cut). Does this mark the end of the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit?"

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  1. Re:1st by Devistater · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It was a joke.

    Wikipedia really needed to do something like this, and banning anonymous changes to a few reasonably stable articles seems like a decent compromise. The articles can still be edited by most people who are into wiki.

    That being said, all this outcry over a couple articles being changed is way over hyped. That nature study that showed that it was nearly as accurate (in science articles) as the online encyclopedia britannica just confirmed that.

  2. They're more or less complete by obli · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The articles that are semi-protected are mostly huge writeups that are more or less complete by now, it's not like they would be edited much anyway, it would be a different thing if the page about George W Bush was to be semi-protected as a stub, i.e. when it needed a huge flow of information to be made. A good reason for unprotecting a page would be if huge discoveries had been made about it and it needed much input, like if someone proved Jesus was a hoax.

    It's also a good thing to have to keep the vandals out, it's been rampant since the John Siegenthaler controversy.

  3. Re:Does this mark the end? by Yst · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Exactly. Complete obliviousness to the premises and principles on which Wikipedia functions is a virtual guarantee of poor contributor content. And that's completely independent of any prior expertise a given individual may possess in the area of knowledge to which said contributor is offering content. If you're a genius in your field and you've haven't the slightest clue how to contribute to Wikipedia, you'll contribute bad content no matter how well-intentioned and well-informed the knowledge behind it is. You can no more write encylopedia articles on, say, wiki programming without the slightest idea what constitutes encyclopedic writing than you can program a wiki without the slightest idea what constitutes good code.

    Maybe there is a dream which still survives among some idealists, that everyone, everywhere, should be able to contribute equally, and with equally fruitful productivity, to a knowledge database, absolutely regardless of any ability they possess to summarise and intepret knowledge in a useful and logical fashion. But for those with a realistic outlook, Wiki article writing ends up looking like any other skill set. It isn't intuitive. It takes a bit of experience. And the more experience you have, the better you'll be at it. Closing off, in effect, those with no experience whatsoever, and requiring you be reqistered at least for a few days to edit specific articles, ultimately, is no loss.

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  4. new system by Sensei_knight · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There should be an equation for article editing. An article should be given a value ranking its popularity and users should be given a rank, ranking their contributions to the wiki community. Only highly valued contributers should be able to modify high ranking entries.
    If you want to edit Hitler you must frist be a proven, intelligent, useful contributer. If you want to write an entry on the superconduction uber widget, knock yourself out. My 2

    1. Re:new system by nutshell42 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      So let's say Ian Kershaw wants to edit the Hitler article. Should he really be barred from doing so, just because he didn't edit some of wikipedias extensive pokemon articles first?

      Yes, he could edit some other articles about the 3rd Reich or whatever but it nevertheless defeats the purpose of a collaborative encyclopedia where everyone can contribute his/her specific expertise.

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  5. Re:Too Hard Basket by mfh · · Score: 5, Insightful

    These measures may slow the casual trolling and idiocy but it will do nothing to deter or prevent the more dedicated trolls.

    I'm a coder and I can't imagine why Wikipedia would want to semi-protect select articles, and not *all* articles. (Bitflag vs Micromanagement)

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  6. Re:There's some sort of joke.... by TallMatthew · · Score: 5, Insightful
    While it might be fun and easy to compare G.W. Bush to Hitler, it's not at all accurate.

    The key similarities between Bush and Hitler are that both are fierce nationalists pushing agendas that include aggressive foreign policies and a reduction in civil rights. The conditions in Germany following WW1 gave Hitler the support he needed; the conditions in America following 911 gave Bush the support he needed. Both societies were deflated and wanted to rally around a strong leader. Both leaders used that to their advantage, breaking long-standing rules, purportedly for purposes of strengthening the nation.

    Nationalism and intimidation is how Hitler did his thing. It's creepy as hell to watch the President deflect pertinent questions with patriotic jargon. It's even creepier when DHS agents bang on people's doors who aren't doing anything wrong. Of course Hitler went farther, and of course W isn't the first president to do such things, but that doesn't make it any less creepy.

  7. A better joke by Freexe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Say it is time to elect a new world leader, and your vote counts. Here are the facts about the three leading candidates:

    Candidate A associates with crooked politicians, and consults with anthologists. He's had two mistresses. He also chain smokes and drinks 8 to 10 martinis a day.

    Candidate B was kicked out of office twice, sleeps until noon, used opium in college and drinks a quart of whisky every evening.

    Candidate C is a decorated war hero. He's a vegetarian, doesn't smoke, drinks an occasional beer and hasn't had any extramarital affairs. Which of these candidates would be your choice? Decide first, no peeking, then scroll down for the answer.

    Candidate A is Franklin D. Roosevelt
    Candidate B is Winston Churchill
    Candidate C is Adolph Hitler

    Sorry it doesn't involve bush, but it shows you can never judge a book by its cover!

    And another ones for kicks:

    If you knew a woman who was pregnant, who had 8 kids already, three who were deaf, two who were blind, one mentally retarded, and she had syphilis; would you recommend that she have an abortion?

    Because she gave birth to Beethoven.

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  8. G.W. Bush vs. Hitler by po8 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The biggest difference between G.W. Bush and Hitler is that Hitler is widely considered one of the most skilled orators of all time...